Still going to back him?
Climate change is a lie by the Chinese.
>>75967778
just another reason to back him actually
Daily reminder that climate change is a strawman the government uses to scare people into giving it more power.
You mean haarp?
>>75967821
Can't tell if you're trolling or being stupid
I wish trump didn't have Irish ancestry. He's a disgrace to the motherland.
That's a really good point man. I think I'm going to start making the #FrenchConnection
>>75967840
You don't even live in the states. So have fun with getting past the giant wall he builds to vote for him, retard.
>>75967778
"Climate is changing so let's destroy some major energy industries and spend billions every year subsidizing replacements that can't keep up!"
When the left's solutions are literally retarded I'll stick with the guys who are just ignoring the problem instead of making more.
>>75967915
Pretty much this. The so called environmental lobby isn't doing shit for the environment. They are just funneling grant money into their greedy-ass pockets and buying white powder with it.
>>75967915
pic related it's of you
I like how the Left equates not subscribing to their globalist enviro-Commie mantra as meaning you don't think Earth's climate is dynamic.
>>75968153
Not believing in global warming is pretty much not believing in science. Nice try tho.
>>75967778
the climate changes all the fucking time. we're not important enough as a species to compete with shit like deep ocean currents and the fucking sun even if we sometimes like to think of ourselves as important.
Shit is literally out of our control.
>>75968289
You know how Co2 works, right?
Man made climate change is real.
However, lefties don't believe in science either, and if we're all dead or slaves thanks to their totalitarian policies, we can't fix that problem anyways.
>>75967949
>>75968148
Welcome to fucking /pol/ you stupid nigger
Vid related is your future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD4Lhu7hcGM
>>75968239
Except that most of the 'believers' I know buy a shit load of bottled water, and pollute the shit out of the planet with single use plastic bottles and drive their car even if they are only going two blocks. (but at least it's a small car).
I currently know zero climate change deniers who do the same thing.
>>75968148
I'm sorry you're incapable of seeing the ulterior motives presented by a problem that can supposedly only be solved by government intervention.
And I'm sorry that you're too dense to see the connection between the above and the government paying people to write a bunch of papers suggesting that the only solution is government control.
>>75968320
you understand measured CO2 in the atmosphere follows temperature change? By your reasoning CO2 should cause increased temperature, not lag behind by 80 years.
>>75968239
Except the term global warming was abandoned by scientists years ago lol.
Also, as someone who actually studies actual science (not that nonsense psychology-tier environmental science), the data is simply not satisfactory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period
This right here presents a massive problem to the mantra, and also serves to highlight the problem that the dearth of data leads to.
>oy vey, we must stop those smithies before they destroy the Earth
>>75968365
You're pretty funny, bro. Although I'm pretty sure everyone here is just ironically anti-semetic, racist, homophobic assholes who think 9/11 was an inside job.
>>75968388
No. That's not what I'm saying. you clearly didn't read the post. I said Trump doesn't believe in climate change. Why should he be pres. if has such a crazy belief?
climate change is a meme
>>75968597
>wikipedia
nice fucking source, moron.
>>75968387
So? What the fuck does drinking bottled water have to do with anything?
>>75968622
Let me tell you a story kiddo.
I'm half-jewish.
I came here and I posted an obnoxious thread with a big-ass Israeli flag on it and told everyone in this board about how the Jews were right and how they were all evil white racist men who were wrong for worshiping Nazis.
You and I are the same person.
Your future is this.
You will stay at /pol/
You WILL lurk
You WILL keep coming back
and you WILL become like me.
THAT is your future.
and you will hate every single moment of it and every moment you spend here will be cursed, because you will be forced to swallow redpills over and over again. You will choke on it, and you will look back and realize what a fool you were.
and then, you will ask how we can stop it.
and the answer will be as simple as pic related.
>>75969000
Your redpill looks more like red-scare to me. As you all seem to be afraid of fucking communism
>>75969239
Don't worry, soon we'll have progress and be accepting of transgender people like pic related.
>>75968239
But global warming isn't real, that's why they changed the title of the scheme to climate change. Which is great because we have all these soros backed green energy sources.
>>75967778
climate change isn't even the 10th most dangerous environmental disaster we face
#1 & #2 fuckushima and acid rain
>>75967778
Yeah, man-made climate change is a scam
>>75969611
like trump university?
>>75968940
Bottled water = Plastic
Plastic is the fucking worst for the enviornment.
>>75969567
Global warming is real. Please go read a book. Or just kys.
>>75969723
Look at it faggot.
LOOK AT IT
>>75969707
So you believe that plastic is bad for the environment, but you don't think global warming is real? Good logic. you fucking mongoloid
Cannot wait to cast my ballot for Trump this November.
>>75969656
True, but nobody is being forced into trump university. So bad analogy faggot.
>>75969820
That's right goy, we need to raise taxes to help fight the global warming.
There's no other way goy.
>>75970082
No one ever said that, goy.
>>75969723
I'd rather kill you. I've even been working on grip strength and endurance so I can feel the life leave your body with my own dick Skinners
>>75970142
What do you want people to do?
>>75969500
Well that does it
I am now a #Trumpfag
>>75970142
Don't worry about it too much. It's all under control.
>>75967778
He can't inflict damage to planet in 4 or 8 years. You need like 50 or 100 years of dedicated actions to make some change on the climate. So if the damage is already inflicted by our previous actions - it also doesn't matter
>>75969656
I don't know enough about Trump University to comment
>>75967778
>CO2 and other green house gasses isn't released by humans
>CO2 doesn't trap infrared light(aka heat)
>greenhouse effect is not real
>we aren't already stuck in a positive feedback loop where CO2->heat->ice melts->CO2
>the initial CO2 spike is totally unrelated to humans, but I will not provide an alternative explanation
>>75967973
No, you are, fag.
>>75967778
Climate change isn't real. Neither is the California drought. They're leftist conspiracies.
>>75970456
Good point.
>>75968740
Your strawman doesn't work here.
Climate change is nothing more than a hot-button topic the government likes to roll around in order to convince you to give it more power.
You're trying to draw me into an argument about the merits of science. I'm trying to ask you what is the conclusion of these studies? What are we going to do about it? Because so far all that we are doing is funding more studies to try to convince more people to give the government more power.
You're trying to draw me into a Motte and Bailey type of argument where you can fall back and say "muh science" as many times as possible. You will then attempt to assassinate my character as being anti-science. Every single argument with a climate change believer features this Motte and Bailey followed by character assassination structure.
My question to you is what are we going to do about it? When are we going to stop funding research for more papers if people are so convinced?
>>75970529
>greenhouse effect is not real?
Science disagrees.
>>75970811
When I first came on this board, I used to tell people that they were racist bigots.
I told them that they were unreasonable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lwypeJzAkE
>read in freshman year of Uni that we have a year, two tops, before the feedback loop gets so bad that the world drowns
>graduate this year, no sign of feedback loop, ice shelves actually reforming in some places
couple that with people mistaking the local weather for the global climate and doomsaying based on that and I am totally done hearing about climate change
The 'inconvenient truth' is that nobody can fucking figure it out or we'd have a definitive answer by now.
How does this affect my life?
>>75970832
I share some of your frustrations. And while I agree that government, by it's very nature will always seek more power, we the people, must recognize that climate change is an issue, and switch to clean energy. Because recycling a couple of plastic bottle will do fuck all.
>>75967915
Cloud seeding is a meme.
>>75970720
>Neither is the California drought.
Please enlighten me I haven't heard this before. I thought the Colorado River was screwed? What is actually happening, is it bad agriculture policy?
>>75970832
This is how the science works in simple terms
We release some CO2 and other greenhouse gasses, we release until at a certain point they make a small change in the climate, small enough for some ice to start melting.
CO2 is trapped dissolved in the ice and as soon as ice starts to melt it gets released. This is called positive feedback loop.
Greenhouse gasses have the property that they let white light IN, as in light from the sun, but they absorb infrared light(heat) that the earth would have otherwise radiated back into space. This happens because of the way the molecules vibrate.
>>75967915
Does he realise all that tech was invented my "academia" and is still being tested?
And your government is reforestating. Google it.
All candidates have their blind spots.
What's more important is that the alternative is genuinely evil
>>75970886
>>75970529
Greenhouse effect is real.
I think what you mean is the Runaway Greenhouse effect, which is a theory and also alleged to be underway caused by human activity. Now THAT is something I would say isn't real. I mean if you want to be specific about it.
>>75971331
i was memeing
>>75967778
I don't believe in "climate change" either, I believe that something is happening, and that the Leftists and the government are blowing it 10,000% out of proportion to assign themselves more power over industry.
I would rather NOTHING be done than what the Left wants.
>>75967778
>>75967915
>Thomas Sowell: Global Warming Manufactured by Intellectuals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rweblFwt-BM
>Thomas Sowell on Al Gore & global warming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNn80IkUNxk
UN predicts: 50 million climate refugees by 2010!
>>75967778
Fuck yes. It's about time someone stood up to the anti-Humanity movement.
>>75967915
Pretty much.
I had a geology professor in college who said climate change definitely wasn't man made and the scientists know this, but they use it as a way to get funding/attention for other issues that no one seems to care about. They have to throw "climate change" in their research notes to get grant money.
>>75968086
Even if it is true, a free market deals with these problems quicker and better. People need to be free to adjust to the changing climate. The climate might change and people might be screwed because they don't have vehicles to even move away from the effected areas because government got rid of those.
>>75971957
If it isn't man made then what's the reason for it?
If it isn't man made does this mean we have to do nothing?
>>75971331
cite your information or GTFO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbg0Is3fWv0
here's some facts and stuff
>>75972653
>>75971238
Where EXACTLY does the principle of the greenhouse effect and the science break down?
>>75972724
Good Goyim
>>75967778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrkqLaYjnc&feature=youtu.be
>>75967915
Well I know it does exist because where I live is getting steadily warmer, that being said I know what they are doing is absolute bullshit. We don't know to what percentage humans are causing the temperatures to raise, so instead of working on reducing the emissions we should be trying to figure out how to use those emissions for something useful, or how to adapt to a warmer climate.
>>75972724
>>75972724
>posts a youtube video
>>75967882
this
>>75973333
This, man-made or man-started, the cascade is already underway. Even if we stopped emissions right now, which we won't, the climate will keep getting warmer.
Another alternative is trying to figure out a way to trap CO2 and other greenhouse gasses back, but that tech doesn't exist right now.
>>75973484
Why didn't you respond to this >>75973143
guy also?
>>75969656
http://www.98percentapproval.com/Home_Page.html
>>75973333
climate was always changing on earth
>>75967778
Fuck the climate. Im not having kids and ill be dead long long before anything even remotely noticeable happens
>>75967778
the biggest greenhouse effect gas is the water vapour, the CO2 is just a minimum fraction compared to that and the CO2 actually helps the agriculture and florests cuz it's a food for the plants.
>>75973698
The question is not IF it's man made, we know how those gasses work and we know they reduce the UV protection earth has, BUT we also know that earth has a warming/cooling cycle, when we tarted dumping those gasses on the atmosphere we were already on the warming phase, so all the results we get are very dubious. This is simply a very new field so any actual scientist working with this will tell you that they have no real idea of what's exactly going to happen, they can only point you out on the general direction.
>>75973911
I'm aware of that.
>something that won't be a problem for even my great grandchildren in the future
>wasting my life giving a fuck about climate
>>75973911
It was, over span of millions of years and it always had some cause.
What is the reason for the recent changes?
>>75974017
Water is in equilibrium, until it starts to vaporize and things get even warmer.
A minimum fraction makes a difference.
>>75974212
>we were already on the warming phase
Bro, the slope of the line has increased. That's the point.
hey how is that second ice age they told us about in the 80s and 90s
>>75974440
There are too many fucking variables and scientists don't know what's going to happen, politicians draw a narrative and jam it down people's gullet, more news at 11.
>total untapped oil and gas reserves on federal lands equal an estimated FIFTY TRILLION DOLLARS
>obama regime blew 2.2 billion dollars funding green energy with little to no results
I strongly support finding a new source of energy, but >>75967915 is right. the govt uses global warming as an excuse to bully and make it nigh impossible for american energy companies to compete with the world.
California is going to make not believing in climate change illegal soon.
>>75971119
Greens make sure all the water is flushed through the Sacramento Delta to "save" the critically endangered delta smut, a subspecies of a fish that survives perfectly well elsewhere.
>>75974313
If the CO2 is less than 5% of the greenhouse gases, how is it making the planet warmer? I forgot to mention that the oceans absorb the excess of CO2 with time.
Did I smell a jew planning to prevent USA to use their oil or to prevent developing countries to grow up?
>the one scientific field every nobody is an expert in is also coincidentally the one threatening the most profitable industry in history
>>75968797
>thinks a sourced source isn't a good source
The primary sources are at the bottom of the page, guy
>>75967778
Climate change is a hoax created by the UN to hasten the emergence of a one world government.
Wait until California is destroyed before doing anything about climate change
>>75975953
>I forgot to mention that the oceans absorb the excess of CO2 with time.
This comes with a set of problems of its own.
Firstly, the ocean does not absorb the entire thing.
Secondly, CO2 reduces the pH of the water which hurts sea life. Terrestrial life forms and sea life forms are connected ecologically.
