/pol/
What are your political thoughts about prostitution?, Is there something degenerate / beta about fucking prostitutes?
There's literally nothing wrong about fucking whores, in fact is one of the most alpha ways of releasing stress and have fum
I'm happily married with three children but I use prostitutes on a regular basis. I honestly love my wife and the hookers mean nothing to me though, it's kind of a substitute for jacking off. Does this behaviour make me a degenerate?
Paying for sex is a beta act, the confidence of a cuck.
>>75881408
>Mexico
I can see why you're confused, you come from a strange land.
Yes, it's absolutely degenerate. Find a wife. Father your children appropriately. Refute muslims.
>>75881826
This
>>75881743
What happened to your hands?
>>75881743
it's literally cheating. of course it's degenerate.
>>75881743
Depends; does your wife know?
>>75881826
You're just angry you cant afford two 10/10 escorts to ride your dick all night and suck you dry.
O well enjoy that 1 women for your whole life who will most likely cheat, possibly divorce and milk you dry of your cash.
>>75881743
If it was a woman saying this pol betas would be up in arms
We need some sympathy for those ugly muthafuckas that can't get a wife and need to fuck std bitches. Also those bitches that don't have any intelligence need money to live so they fuck ugly niggas.
Here's why I fuck prostitutes, its because you don't want to marry the woman that allows any man to donkey punch her.
>>75881408
>What are your political thoughts about prostitution?
A lot of politicians are all for prostitutes irl
Pointless to outlaw it. Some guys for whatever reason will always be willing to pay women for sex, and some women will always be willing to take their money. Elementary market principles at work since prehistoric times.
Legally control it and allow these women more efficient access to healthcare to reduce the spread of STDs.
>muh degeneracy
2,000 years of theocracy and religious doctrine hasn't stamped it out. Face reality and accept the red pill.
>>75881743
The obvious cheating aside you risk getting infected with STD/STIs and the possibility of infecting your family
>>75882035
Nothing. But I don't view pornography often when I can get the real thing with a fit 20 year old for not a lot of money.
>>75882039.
I do feel guilty about it and my wife and I still have regular sex. I just like having a bit of variety.
>>75882069
She hasn't got a clue, I'm extremely careful.
>>75882249
I don't disagree with you but I think if a woman cheats on a man she does it out of spite or hatred. I do it to satisfy a biological urge, nothing more.
>>75881408
It's necessary.
>>75882245
You're just mad I don't pay for it.
> "S s s s so does my hour s s s start now? No k k kissing? Ok."
>people will defend the pussy union
Cucks the lot of you
Womyn voters installed these restrictions for intuitive reasons.
If men could just get laid women need to have more than sex to offer
>>75883349
Like familial loyalty?
That's anathema to feminists.
Men who donate money to women on the internet should give it a try.
We would have less lefties too.
>>75883041
> what are condoms.
>>75881743
Yes that is degenerate. You are degenerate because you betray your family.
>>75883866
Not infallible, that's what.
sex before marriage is degenerate
I'm so sexually frustrated last weekend I finally let my friend blow me. Hookers is what I really want but too afraid of the unknown + STDs.
sex with any woman, who you wont share rest of your life with is degenerate...
>>75881743
*sex outside of marriage is degenerate
>>75884475
>t. I swear I'm only virgin because I'm waiting for marriage!
It happens anyway, may as well legalize and regulate it. It would be safer for everyone involved.
That said, sexbot brothels will replace prostitutes soon enough.
>>75884564
>Using the fedora meme to mock a belief traditionally held by Christians
>>75884564
Is it degenerate that I knew exactly what that was at first glance
>>75881408
It is degenerate, but it's the oldest profession. And it is cheaper than having a gf. It should be legalised and whores should be medically checked so that STDs are contained.
>>75881408
>prohibition
increase in violence, people still drink
>war on drugs
increase in violence, people still do drugs
>banning abortion
unsafe abortions happen, people still abortions
>prostitution
violence against women, people still do prostitution
whenever you criminalize something, you are just screwing over a bunch of people, period. and what happens when jamal grows up in the drug war ridden land of detroit and your daughter brings him home to your dinner table. bet you wish you could take back the 80s then, faggot.
>>75884817
>Self discipline? What do you think i am, a Christian?
we should stone the harlots
>>75883866
Wont protect you from Herpes or HPV
>>75881743
Kill yourself, britcuck.
>>75881408
I'm tired of kicking prostitutes out of my hotel. It's a waste of my day, but if we don't keep on top of it, then the independent prostitutes will lead to pimp-managed prostitutes, which leads to drug dealers, theft, violence, lower TripAdvisor reviews, less revenue, a frsutrated staff and other headaches associated with having lots of niggers in your place of business.
But yeah, fucking a hooker in her own house or having her come to you works out well. I'm more partial to rub-and-tug "spas" though.
>>75881743
How many STIs have you given your teenbride this week, Ahmed?
>>75881743
You are an embarrassment to our country, you disgusting cunt.
I sometimes visit brothels.
I should probably stop. I should engage the power of will.
It's not degenerate if you have a threeway with your wife, yourself and the pro-stitute
>>75881408
I'm glad none of you fuckwits run a country, you roastie chasing cucks would kill a nation in one generation.
>>75884421
>claims cheating on wife is degenerate
>posts pic of Goebbels, notorious womanizer
Do you even Third Reich?
After thinking about this for some time, I've decided that it should be legal in all 50 states with minor regulation and also unionized.
The regulation stems for mandatory health screenings. Any STDs is an auto-ban from the industry. Unionization will allow protection against pimps (in this case, brothel management). Obviously prostitutes should be forced to pay taxes like every other profession.
If the value of sex via prostitution was of a higher quality and easier to attain than of regular means (dating, meeting people, etc), this should offset the imbalance causing women in general to become more chaste (they'd lose their overall control over men).
However, the only way this would work is via massive shaming of prostitutes, like how it was in ancient times, as if there's only benefits of prostitution, every woman would want to be one. The overall point is to lower the power of pussy and focus more on relationships (marriage) instead.
>>75881743
>>75883072
absolutely degenerate
Politically, it is hard to vote for prostitution if you are a legislator.
Ethically, there is really nothing wrong with it.
Practically, it fucks people up.
>>75881743
Good
>>75881743
How would you react if your wife fucking manwhores?
>>75887846
I don't get it with cheaters. I would be so happy to have a wife and someone who loves me I couldn't imagine cheating. I know I'm naive and it isn't all roses, but I just can't imagine...
>>75883204
Fag
>>75887950
Nah, mang.
Cheating is for beta males. It's the least manly behaviour I can think of.
If you're gf/wife doesn't sexually fulfill you, then you dump/divorce her useless ass.
And if she threatens to take your kids and money, just give her to old left, right, left, right goodnight.
Works every time.
>>75881743
Behold the eternal Anglo everyone.
Lost my virginity to a hooker
>>75888980
I lost my virginity to one of your women who came to my country.
Weird.
>>75888664
>If you're gf/wife doesn't sexually fulfill you, then you dump/divorce her useless ass.
this is female logic
>>75881743
Would you find it degenerate if she was fucking male prostitutes on a regular basis?
>>75884679
Boy or girl?
>>75885128
>cheaper than having a GF
Not 'per fuck', or in relation to my wife paying half the mortgage.
>>75889565
No,Mcgregor.
Cheating is female logic.
>I love my man, but just having sex with another man woudn't hurt, right? I mean as long as i don't have feelings for the other guy, right?
I don't pay them to come over. I pay them to leave.
-Charlie Sheen.
>>75881408
>yfw in 5 years SJW's force Nevada to enact a state-wide ban on prostitution, becoming the 50th and final state where it is banned
I'm against prostitution for the reason that it will degrade the moral fabric of my society which is already in a free fall decline.
Inversely, I'm for prostitution because it would be the end of feminism, and it would be fucking delicious to see the beta orbiters realize that their beautiful angel is just a dirty whore that will suck dick for $20.
>>75884753
finally someone who thinks like me on this degenerate site yaay
>>75890658
And here is someone who does not.
I see it that way: They provide a service, for which I pay for. They perform various sexual acts on me. After that, I leave and do not see them again. I do not want to talk to them, or bond in any way, I am just using them as a piece of meat they are because I do not have a gf, and I am too autistic/not determined enough to find one. As such, because this is simple transaction, I do not think this is degenerate as fuck, and I deem it moderately degenerate, being more degenerate then above average booze consumption, but less degenerate then drugs
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I'm going down to Brazil this week
I'm already on my 6th day of no fap, I can't fucking wait
>>75881408
It will never be stopped. No point in making it illegal.
>>75881408
I will never understand why prostitutes are so despised, while at the same time pornstars are glorified.
I lost my virginity to a prostitute, not the street hooker kind, but the apartment one. I did it three more times, then I managed to have sex normally and stopped since then
>>75882245
>paying prostitutes for sex
>says wife will take his money
O well
The "stress release" excuse is stupid though, there are plenty of ways to release stress without risking disease and paying hundreds/thousands of dollars
>>75883866
Condoms are never 100% effective, even if they're 99.9% effective you're still going to end up with thousands of people getting infected while using condoms
Having sex without producing children is for betas
>>75882245
If you can't do that for free you're a confirmed beta
>>75891315
>while at the same time pornstars are glorified.
By who? Aside from coming on 4chan I've never known anyone who even knows porn stars by name aside from the ones who have preformed in legitimate movies and TV shows.
>>75890966
i think prostitutes should be burned alive along with feminists and cheating women. they are the witches of modern age. people like you, also. but in a perfect world, as i always imagine, everyone would find their love when they are young and we would be happy forever. no competition or looking for 'somone better'. so no reason for degenerate satanic prostitution
>>75882245
This is the Beta in the flesh. Do not stoop to his level, for he knows nothing in the name of confidence.
>most likely cheat
>milk you dry of your cash
This is exactly what a hooker/prostitute does.
>>75891547
Well first of all porn making barely have any legal troubles, while prostitution is often strongly opposed.
Pornstars are also receiving specific awards for their job, I highly doubt there is something similar for the escorting business
>>75891884
>Pornstars are also receiving specific awards for their job
I hear retards do olympics, hell if I'd know, I'm not a retard and no one I know is a retard - so why would I even give a shit enough to pay attention to it?
It all comes down to government. If it can't be taxed and regulated and it's no bueno. Decriminalize prostitution creates a situation where people can forego the corporate business of regulated prostitution and do it on their own while using the law as a safety net.
I don't know about where you're at, but if I walk outside and sell someone a cigarette from my pack I go to jail. Everything is regulated and the government has to get its cut.
Where it stands now, I'm pretty sure the government is making more money arresting and suing johns and prostitutes than it'd make from legalizing it.
>>75891560
But Croatia, this is not a perfect world, and many people will never ever find love. Does it mean they cannot fug from time to time, for fun?
I would not resort to visiting prostitutes when having a better option (relationship with a woman) but because I do not have it, I fuck hookers. Furthermore, I say, fucking professional hooker is better then fucking random 18-25 while she is drunk after party in some shitty club, because of fuck quality.
>>75892187
Yeah exacty, in the end it's just a matter of law and regulations, that's the difference.
If you look at the tasks to be performed per se, the two professions are not that different. A pornstar is nothing more than a glorified prostitute.
>>75892238
you don't have to fuck anyone when you are not in relationship. why is sex so important, is it more important to you than you r dignity and self-respect?
>>75892444
Sex is so fucking overrated.
I had so many expectations about it and now I think it's not that big of a deal. Yeah of course it's great and feels good, but it's not the most important thing in the world as society wants us to think
>>75892389
I feel the hidden question isn't "Shouldn't prostitution be legal like porn", but ought to be "Shouldn't porn be illegal like prostitution?"
On a personal level, depending on the beta-ness of each male, they either do or don't want it legalized, but the porn industry was a crazy bit of corruption, politicians being bought and sold, peoples lives being destroyed, overall craziness.
In America porn will probably always exist because we're stupid enough to believe that filming prostitutes constitutes "art", but in reality it's just something to jack off to which probably should have never been legalized in the first place.
If you're pro-prostitution, just hang in there, it'll be legalized world wide in a decade or two, we're becoming more globalized, more uniform, and certainly more degenerate by the day.
>>75892444
It is not important, but it feels nice.
>dignity and self-respect
I do not care about that. I have my dignity built on good shit I do, and while fucking hookers is definitely not a good thing, I do not care much. Also, my self-respect after sex actually increased.
>>75881826
>let me buy you this drink
>I'm taking you out to diner tonight babe
>wanna go for ice cream? my treat
>will you marry me if I put this 1000$ engagement ring on your finger?
>20 000$ wedding? no problem I love you
>of course you can leave with half my stuff
a girlfriend is typically just as expensive if not more expensive than a prostitute and the benefit (sex) declines with the years while with a prostitute it's always the same thing.
of course, you can always chase bar sluts
>spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on appearance and bar nights to get lucky once in a while
that method is definitely more expensive than prostitutes tho
>>75881408
Bisexual prostitute who workes in Austria here. I make 7-12€ thousands a month while having sex. How is it worse than getting 1-2k working for Shlomo?
>>75881408
Legalizing it would singlehandedly even out sexual relations.
>>75893113
I feel that you're viewing the premise of those actions falsely. I may be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure most men didn't/don't get married for sex, they get married for marriage, children, and the dream of having someone by your side for the remainder of your days.
As for bar hopping for pussy, until "clubs" became a thing, most people at bars were at bars to have some drinks or because they were alcoholics, if you end up fucking the bar fly then that's just an additional benefit - it wasn't the reason you went to the bar. Clubs though, that's some gen X/millenial degeneracy based solely around fucking.
>>75881743
what a piece of shit you are
I feel bad for Britain, but you are part of the problem too
>>75893213
It is not worse from money perspective, but studies show that more than a half of prostitutes would switch job to another one if given a chance.
I think in most countries you also have public shunning, and perhaps your job can have a kind of big risk of catching STD, not to mention clientelle of degenerates.
Nothing personal fuckmeat
>>75893365
>most men didn't/don't get married for sex
they get married because their nagging cunts want marriage and they do what their nagging cunts want because they want to put their penises inside of said cunts
it as always and forever will be about sex
>>75893523
I like sex and it's my kink to do it for money. Most prostitutes are cleaner than average girl. Rubber only.
>>75887846
There's this joke I'll translate.
One night a dude gets home drunk as fuck - blacks out and wakes in the morning with an horrible head ache and a drunken voice.
He walks up the hallway and sees a glass of water and a pill for headache - he's amazed - he starts to question what happened.
As he walks towards bathroom he's amazed to see written on the window - " I love you sweetheard, there's a surprise for you in kitchen "
In kitchen he notices his favorite meal on table, freshly cooked - astonished as he was - goes to his children room and asks what happened - the kids tells him: that it's bad - he came drunk as fuck last light, puked on the old rug immediately he entered house - he then flipped over the antique table they got on wedding day and broke lots of stuff..
the dad is in shock - well if it's all bad what happened then? Why I am treated so well - his women shows up smiling - he asks her what happened:
She then tells him: of course you came drunk as hell last night - and after you broke all that stuff, you fell down almost knocked out on bed - as I tried to pull your pants down you yelled at me: - Leave me alone whore I'm married.
>>75883041
Prostitutes are cleaner than the average bar slut. They get tested very frequently and know that their reputation is everything to their job. If a John spread word that she had an STD her job would be over. I wouldn't be worried about getting an STD from a hooker unless you are fucking literal crackwhores.
>>75883072
>She hasn't got a clue, I'm extremely careful.
Cheating aside you are lying to her, on a "regular basis".
>>75881743
>it's kind of a substitute for jacking off
At least you acknowledge this.
Personally, I'd never want to have sex with a woman who didn't want me to have sex with her... to me, prostitution is kind of like consensual/compensated rape. But if it does it for you, who am I to judge?
>>75893633
That's wrong though, that's not how the trade goes, unless you're some weird old testament God fearing beta.
1) Date 2) Fuck 3) Marriage
No one gets married for pussy, you've already obtained pussy by step 2.
And the whole "Well dates cost money, prostitutes cost money, just buy prostitutes" argument also seems like some delusion created by betas. I've only ever spent money on girlfriends I had already been fucking when I wanted to spend money on activities. I've never spent money on a girl I wasn't yet fucking. Maybe that's just me, but I'm a bit older, so.
>>75881743
>I'm happily married with three children
You sick fuck, you shouldn't marry more than one child at the time.
>>75892864
I agree, in an ideal world we wouldn't need porn or prostitution. I think it can be bad especially for the young girls who get involved in those abusive environments, just because they are dumb and greedy.
Well I agree, calling it "art" it's just ridiculous. I just find amusing hearing "feminists" calling those jobs as "empowering" for women
Also i've spent about ~2 grand on various prostitutes in my life and have never caught anything from them.
I did however catch chlamydia from a Tinder slut. But I found out to cure Chlamydia you just swallow 4 pills and you're good to go.
>>75893960
>I just find amusing hearing "feminists" calling those jobs as "empowering" for women
Got a good laugh out of that porn star, happened like a year ago or so, was a womens study major at harvard and did a porn shoot, got slapped around, gagged on cock, cum blast to the face, did an interview afterwards talking about how empowering it was. Delusional shit right there.
>I think it can be bad especially for the young girls who get involved in those abusive environments, just because they are dumb and greedy.
Hearing about porn stars suiciding or overdosing makes me happy, the same way I'd feel if a jew lost his hand trying to grab a dollar that fell into a blender. Bad people deserve bad things.
>>75893658
>Most prostitutes are cleaner than average girl.
Uhm, I do not believe that, but because you probably cannot provide proofs, we will have to agree to disagree.
I know it is against your way of earning money, but can you share some tips for free sex that does not involve relationship or my hand?
>>75884876
Thinking you are special is pretty degenerate.
>>75894475
It's true anon. Maybe not the average girl but the average slut definitely. They can't do their job if theyre dirty because word spreads. They get checked far more frequently than the average girl.
>>75892790
they use sex as tool for mass manipulation, they put us in trance, feed us with porn, naked women so we don't have energy to fight them. but people are slowly waking up and it's good
>>75892919
you are sex addict probably, no sane man would put his penis inside women who already had taken even one.
>>75894165
Do you have a link about that interview stuff?
I agree btw, and I find specifically stupid when college girls do only one porn scene (usually casting couch-style) to get the money, then cry and complain because their life is ruined, nobody takes them seriously and they are treated as sluts. Some girls are really short-sighted, but surely all the rhetoric about porn ("it's just a normal job") doesn't help for sure.
>>75894706
>They get checked far more frequently than the average girl.
*Walking through a mine field*
*Making sure I still have legs every 5 seconds*
Eh It's alright, as long as I keep checking to make sure I have legs, I won't walk into any mines.
>>75894782
>calling me a sex addict
Oh Croatia, now you jumped the shark
I fuck way less than statistical dude my age, and I lost my virginity later than average
>no sane man would put his penis inside women who already had taken even one.
This is wrong and you know it. You just claimed that 90% of sailors are insane
>>75893818
>No one gets married for pussy, you've already obtained pussy by step 2.
it's not to get it, it's to secure it
as for your second point yes there are exceptions to the rule; I don't spend money on girlfriends either, we always split the bills (or pay once and the other pays the next time), but exceptions don't disprove the rule. If you reread my original post you'll noticed that I used the word "typically"
>>75894972
yes, i did. and they are. the other 10 % are probably the only normal men left who can do something about this planet and change the world because their lives don't depend on sex or women, but other things, more intelligent and more 'humanly'.
>>75881408
It's degenerate but it's understandable.
It can be beta, but it depends. If you're under around 28 and this is the only sex you can get then yeah it's pretty fucking beta.
If you're older, had relationships, and especially if you are stuck in a sexless marriage then it's not really as beta IMO. Still degenerate but what's a man stuck with an unaffectionate wife to do? Split up his family for his own pleasure or take care of his needs another way.
the people can make cash any way the choose
>>75895483
I strongly disagree with your statement because:
a)People who fuck for fun does not always base their entire lives around sex, because that is fucking
b)No life depend on sex. It is not required for living, only for procreation
c)People who fuck hookers and fuck for fun can still do intelligent and humane things, sex is not exclusive with being a good human being
d) It is hard to change the world in one generation, you would actually have to have children -> have sex with woman
While you are standing and defending your ideals strongly, which I admire, because they are good, pure and proper, I just disagree and say that you can fuck hookers and that is nobodys business - what you do in bed is intimate, which means between you and your partner only, and as long as it is legal and noone is hurting, I do not see a very bad thing in it.
23, m, Britfag in spain
>facefucked street whore for 25eur 15mins
2nd time i facefucked a black whore for 20eur for 30mins, didn't come, so i found a 19 y/o blonde bulgarian and facefucked her
that one was 10/10, it really felt like her mouth was a pussy, and i made her look at me.
was fun, i would do it all the time if i had the money
>>75893818
also: don't get me wrong I'm not advocating prostitution over relationships, I was simply pointing out that most people will spend more in their lifetimes for sex with a steady partner than they would have for a prostitute (for the same amount of sex) because the other anon seemed to believe that prostitution was the only method in which people paid for sex
>>75881743
Why is the wife not fulfilling her tasks?
>>75896407
I would be willing to spent entire money of the world on woman who would love me and be faithful to me.
But I did not found her yet, so hookers.
>>75896393
well, the way i see it is that people who fuck whores have very low to no moral in their lives. so, the chances are probably that people who fuck whores wouldn't have problem with bombing innocent people for example.
>>75896790
>I would be willing to spent entire money of the world on woman who would love me and be faithful to me.
life is not a Disney movie my friend, you're gonna have to settle with whatever is available
just find one that is willing to split the bills and sign the prenup, that's the best you can hope for nowadays
>>75897007
Well, the way I see it, you said few posts ago that all hookers and their clients should be burned like witches, so I say people who preach morals on internet wouldn't have a problem with bombing innocent people for example.
People are complicated creatures, and breaking 1 moral law does not mean breaking all of them.
It's a business, one that is called the oldest profession for good reasons. Hell, you pay for the services, goods, so by my view, it's fine. The best thing to do is to keep it contained. You cannot outlaw it since it'll bring the women further into underground problems and with pimps.
Put them in buildings and keep them safe. And, obviously, tax them for their work. If they don't like it, they can risk it with pimps.
The morality of whether someone should use a prostitute is beside the point.
>>75897268
>life is not a Disney movie
are you saying that there is no chance to find woman who will love and be faithful, even if she would be dumb as brick and ugly as toad?
Why bother then?
My political beliefs on prostitution are based on pragmatism. Legalize, regulate and tax. This would result for safer conditions for all involved and would reduce the spread of STDs and would provide valuable revenue to local governments.
I've never had sex so I don't know and paying 50 euros for a prositute seems a lot.
But I've found my bliss by looking for Fly Agarics and drying them before consuming.
It's 100% different from magic mushrooms but it's crazy and when I get hallucinations I forget they're fake and it's like I'm living in a different world.
Before that I used nutmeg and Datura sometimes, but both made me feel like shit afterwards. Especially nutmeg.
Fly Agaric has been much better for me.
>>75881743
you should probably kill yourself. no better than whore
>>75883041
>infecting your family
the solution is don't fuck your children germany
>>75881408
I accept it under proper regulation such as health checks and make sure every prostitute is a free agent / no pimping
>>75891723
>most likely cheat
>hooker
>>75897450
i said innocent people. and hookers are everything but innocent. i wouldn't mind bombing them ofc, but i'm all in tears when it comes to bombing innocent ones. so it's not the same.
>>75898202
But there are no innocent people anon
Everybody is guilty of sin, except our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Should we bomb everybody?
>>75884421
Agreed
>>75898879
maybe we should who knows. my saviour is not some ancient hippie. anyway, no man is completely good or completely evil, but we shouldn't tolerate immoral people, especially women, because they easily manipulate people with their bodies.
>>75899632
Question: If i do not have family as in no wife/gf/kids, do I still betray them if I visit a hooker?
>>75899826
Getting a Hooker is still a Beta act.
You probably would only believe that your betraying yourself.
But you are probably betraying your family as you would get a hooker instead of finding a stable person to be in a relationship with.
But nope, you just get a dumb fucking hooker to satisfy your little dick.
To answer your question.
Yes, you fucking idiot.
>>75883072
i wish i could tell her
>>75900388
Mental gymnastics is strong in you.
Law is not retroactive -> you cannot betray your family when you have no family. Noone can guarantee you will find a stable person to be in a relationship with, and if only search matters, then it does not matter at all.
And I do not believe in your kikery of alpha/beta/lambda/omega/ypsilon bullshit.
Also: name calling is redundant.
>>75899810
>We shouldn't tolerate immoral people
But we do, we give them a second chance, and a third one, and that how it is on the earth. You cannot fix all people, because humans are flawed as fuck. Even if you kill all people up to some imaginary pure and perfect level, someone will always be lower in your standards.
Also, you sound a bit like mudslime with that
>ancient hippie
>especially woman who manipulate
Not that you are wrong in that matter though
>>75881743
Don't listen to all these cucks. It's not degenerate but a normal thing.
Anyway it depens though. On how much you spend of your income on it and how frequently you do it. If you put your family first and need it to relief stress or whatever because your wife wont/can't do it, I see it better than the alternative: Be depressed in your life, toxicating your kids with your low drive or even worse: Divorce and fuck your kids up badly.
I wouldnt have minded my father having some whores if he hadn't divorced my mother for it.
And yes, it's degenerate if women do it.
>>75901273
Fuck off with that misinfo Germany, hookers are degenerate, and if you fuck hookers while being in stable relationship, God forbid in marriage, you deserve to have your balls cut and thrown to the dogs.
>>75895420
>If you reread my original post you'll noticed that I used the word "typically"
Fair enough, but the people we're talking about are the bottom of the barrel, I don't feel that changing society to accommodate them is the right way to go.
You've stated you're not a forever alone, and I'm not either, I personally don't care if the guy up the road blows his brains out because he refuses to put work into getting laid, especially if the cost of him getting laid is something I perceive as being negative for the society I live in.
>>75901487
Why? Just because "god" says so?
If it stabilizes your marriage and you can rescue it with it, because we all know women are all cunts, I see it as the better alternative than divorce.
>>75894842
Can't seem to find the video of the porn or the interview, and damned if I can recall her name. If you're interested I'd go into the next anti-feminism thread you see on here and ask about it - if nothing else you'll find the 1000 yard stare girl playing gary jules Mad World while her casting couch porn plays in the background, fucking hilarious.
>>75901199
Your just a fucking DP.
If your family is dead, you probably are a lone and sad man as it is. So anything you do doesn't matter as you depression and sadness consumes you. So you can't make "meaningful relationships" as you define.
Of course you are not "guaranteed" a relationship. You have to work hard to find one and to maintain it you idiot. And of course the search matters, you must be having a terrible search if you resort to the card "it does not matter at all" bullshit.
Name call is not redundant you fucking nigger. Welcome to 4chan.
>>75901792
Not because God said so, it is because when you get married, you promise to be faithful and loyal and all that beatiful shit, and cheating in marriage is shitting on that like diarrhea. Upon the course of history poets, great kings and warriors and all other kinds of faggots said that love is most important, most pure and most beatiful thing on this earth, screw the reasons why. Cheating makes love less important, gets it on shit level from being sacred feeling etc etc.
also
>Hookers
>stabilizing marriage
>alternative for divorce
Nope.avi
>>75901199
yeah i like islam, i can say. guess i'll just go back to my fantasy world where everyone is how i want them to be. i wish i could force it upon people somehow, i mean, all i want is eternal peace and infinite love among humans. but still it would be labeled as 'forcing upon somone' or 'opression'
>>75901915
Fuck you too you faggot. My family is not dead, I did not started it yet. And shut up with that depression and sadness bullshit.
>you must be having a terrible search
Yeah, no bullshit, most woman are whores who only wants to fuck/drink/smoke or use me in any other way.
I do not have more time to spend on arguing with strangers anymore, so thank you all for angry although constructive discussion.
You are all bunch of faggots, especially that Kraut dude
>>75898192
lmaooo
>>75902189
In todays times, marriage is just a way for women to enslave you without giving anything up in return. Sounds like a bad deal for me. On the other hand, it gives children more of a home and safety.
Well I guess all these guys didn't really understand women, and I bet you say "all" but mean "the ones I like". Women keep the lvoe for themselves in a relationships and can only truly love their children, but never their partner. Only men really give themselves up and truly love.
Either you are a woman or pretty dumb.
I bet my money on both.
Also I meant its the better alternative than divorce, yes, but only if you tried working on your relationship beforehand and it didnt work out. It's degenerate to go the easy way though.
But doing whats best for the family is not. And sometimes that means going to a hooker and being made feel good again and rejuvenated. In moderation.
>>75902845
Well it sucks to suck dude. Giving up is only becoming a fucking degenerate. Giving into temptation and fucking hookers won't help you find that woman.
No problem, I am glad I enlightend you not give up and fucking shoot yourself.
>>75882249
/pol/ is up in arms right now
>>75902845
You are very angry, but i bet you are comepletely okay with your life. Enjoy.
>>75901792
normies love her for trolling the anti-muzzies but hates her for the antisemite tweets
/pol/ hates her for the anti-muz trolling but loves her for the tweets
lel
>>75897595
You don't bother and just enjoy the ride.
>>75896790
AAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH KEKKEKCKEK Kay I've read enough posts of you man. JEsus christ angry virgin and angry at the world for being as it is.
Jeeeeesus thanks for the love. Bye mate and I really hope you get it in some time and wont be so angry all the damn time anymore. Life is as it is, just make the bst out of it. You seem like a good person, so bless you man. But you are only making it worse for yourself and the people around you if you don't accept some things.
>>75881743
>>75883072
You need to sit down and have a serious discussion about improving the sex in your life because its boring as fuck. I had the same problem with my wife but I got drunk, got high, and then laid out a few fantasies for her and me. I went out and got some outfits from pornstars that have a similar body type to my wife. I also looked up ways to get her to try new things without her freaking out. Share your sex drive and fantasies with her, maybe she has a high sex drive too but marriage and kids slowed things down.
>>75903967
>mfw when my last job I worked with a middle aged woman with a body like that
Good advice, though, I get the feeling a lot of guys hold their old lady up on a pedastal and would rather beat off to their fantasies than ask her to do them out of fear of rejection or seeming weird, then they come on here and talk about how all women are skanks who want a 30 man gangbang.
I honestly dont have a problem with 2 consenting adults completing a transaction for services provided.
>>75891560
sound pretty borung and brainwashed.
>>75906110
you prostitute defenders and vaginal slaves are boring and brainwashed
>>75903849
I'm back for this one post because too much cofee makes it imposibble to sleep.
>angry virgin
Not angry, just idealistic
>virgin
hell no, read posts above, I fucked numerous hookers, and I do not try to say it was something good, because it was not, but it is not kill/steal/rape tier either
>>75903121
No it won't , but taken in moderation will not interfere in the process, and will help spent alone time
Gonna go now, study some stuff, exams time is soon
>>75905586
>I get the feeling a lot of guys hold their old lady up on a pedastal and would rather beat off to their fantasies than ask her to do them out of fear of rejection or seeming weird
Which is strange to me because I thought when two people started dating, they fucked like rabbits for the first few months. That's when you should be testing to see if she's into the same stuff that you are not putting on a front about how you only like missionary or "non-degenerate" things. You'll end up keeping that mask on while you jerk off in the bathroom while enjoying the real shit you're into on your phone. (Yes, I'm speaking from experience)
I was surprised that I still fear rejection from my own wife.
Shit, pic from before is a pornstar named Crystal Bottoms, average face but hot as fuck body. Personally, those type of girls are my favorite.
>>75908630
>Be into gigantic tits
>Can't make wife's tits bigger
What's the next step of your master plan?
>>75908630
>Shit, pic from before is a pornstar named Crystal Bottoms, average face but hot as fuck body. Personally, those type of girls are my favorite.
Already sourced it but I appreciate it.
Yeah I don't understand the disconnect with the situation. I only had one relationship back when I was 16 or so where I wouldn't express my wants and needs, and since that has ended I've layed my inner needs out on the line pretty quickly, and I've yet to be rejected by anyone because of it. Hell, if anything I'm the one with the raised eyebrow when they tell me their wants. Womens be some freaky bitches.
>>75893719
I like it.
>>75881408
It is degenerate but I don't thing it is a beta thing.
>>75891547
That's because you are too autistic to have friends to talk to.
>>75908630
ok who is this now?
>>75885159
valid points
>>75893113
1000$ ring? Try $10,000. That's what i spent
>>75909738
Ouch man. That's it. That's it right there. I come here because it's a community of like minded individuals, and seeing this, seeing this fucking hatred and animosity, I'm done. I quit. Fuck you and fuck this place.
>>75909726
Agreed.
>>75910027
Hahaha boy did you get fucked.
Protip: marry a girl who doesn't give a shit about meaningless material shit like that.
>>75881743
Does your wife know and is okay with it?
If so, then congrats you married a whore as well and your marriage never meant anything and your kids probably aren't yours.
>>75910027
Lemme guess you fell for the diamond jew
>>75908866
>Costa Rica
>Into tits
Is it cause ass is pushed so hard down in Latin America, you want something different?
You could fatten her up or if you're really ballsy, let her catch you staring at big tits and joke about they have a gravitational pull on your eyesight or something. idk, every woman is different.
>>75909422
This guy figured shit out quick. That sounds fucking awesome.
>>75909814
No clue on that one. Grabbed it from a tumblr porn/sex page during a raid awhile back.
>>75881408
Helps reduce the pricetag on pussy.
It poisons relations between men and women in a society. The lolbertardian argument it's individual choice is bullshit because it effects relations between the sexes.
A guy who uses prostitutes is the most pathetic of betas. You don't even know if the woman is actually attracted to you. You could be a 70 year old invalid in a diaper and she would still act like she enjoys it. A woman who does this is also the lowest form of life.
>>75910756
I've always been a tits man. That graph just showed the majority choice, not how much was it chosen. A country could be 51% into butts and 49% into tits and still would show red in that graph.
>>75883013
2,000 years of degenerate desert cult religions you mean.
>>75910888
people always say'as long as it doesn't hurt anyone you are free to do whatever you want'. but as you said, it does hurt relations between genders, but people obviously don't care about that type of hurting, it's completely normal to them -.-
>>75881743
degenerate. Kill self.
>>75910888
>A guy who uses prostitutes is the most pathetic of betas. You don't even know if the woman is actually attracted to you.
I oppose prostitution, but I can tell you their view: "I know she's not into me, but I want pussy, she wants money, it's a transaction and we're both consenting adults".
In a free market like ours it's hard to explain that some things shouldn't be for sale, but that is their argumentative approach.
Sadly, this battle will be lost for us. You and I may snag a wife before the generation where women below the age of 35 typically become prostitutes, but we will definitely lose the battle in the end.
>>75903121
>muh famiry
>muh honor
>>75912643
>muh famiry
Your lineage, family, self, race, and image.
Have some fucking self respect.
>>75884679
can you post a picture of your friend?
>>75911963
Sex to me is inextricably bound with a woman being genuinely into me. Otherwise I would just jerk off to porn. It I thought a woman was just fucking me for money I wouldn't even be into it. Before they say how do you know a woman's not a gold digger, I've never been rich or paid for women on "dates" but I still get laid.
>>75911963
Also Libertardians tend to be autists who can't think of anything outside of economic terms so I can see why they'd make that argument.
>>75912643
Sorry to hear life itself has become so degraded and worthless to you.
>>75881408
You know why we have so many school shootings here? Because socially awkward dudes have no means of release.
If they could pay a hooker, they'd never shoot up places because "muh virginity"
>>75913974
One in the same here comrade. When I was younger I fucked just to fuck, or actually I suppose I was that "Just doing it for notches on the bedpost" asshole, nowadays I get my spurts where I feel "I have to make sure I still have the skill - that I can MAKE someone give a shit and want me", and I go out and get it, luckily I've yet to lose my "spark". It is interesting though, I can feel my personality change when I'm on "the prowl", I can almost watch myself pull women while knowing it's just an act. I'm too busy working on securing my funds, yah know, someones got to think of the childreeeen, but the only thing that'll make me blow when I'm with another women is a deep feeling of "She WANTS it", fucking is just.....jerking off with a pussy if not.
>>75914139
I identify as a libertarian, but I also identify as a utilitarian. A cumshot blown in 20 seconds on a napkin just doesn't match the perseverance and growth of a society.
It sucks that society has compartmentalized so much, or maybe it simply hasn't compartmentalized enough that semi-contradictions can occur. Government should be out of the matter but humans should learn to respect themselves and their homes and live accordingly. I guess it breaks down to the philosophical debate between "is" and "ought".
>>75881408
It is a womans right to sell sex.
It should be governed by same rules as normal work and ensure sexual health and safety of everyone involved.
Making it illegal only brushes it under the carpet and doesn't stop it.
Many countries which legalise it don't do enough to make it follow the same standards as other jobs so it looks bad but is still safer than making it a criminal act.
>>75914887
>It should be governed by same rules as normal work and ensure sexual health and safety of everyone involved.
>Same work
But can you ensure that an individual will choose the 85 year old woman over the 18 year old woman consistently? Or is it biased?
Can you control the Johns and truly make it a system of consistency, or do you just want the consistency to be on the part of the supply condoms and STD tests?
>>75914664
>a deep feeling of "She WANTS it"
Many hookers enjoy their job. I have fucked hookers that did things I didn't ask for, like getting my ass licked by a super horny girl or having my toes sucked.
They don't just lay there like sacks of potatoes. Maybe it's an act, maybe it's not, I can't imagine a woman licking my ass or sucking my balls without being asked unless she wanted to.
One time I finished quick and had 30 mins left and I just wanted to doze a bit because I was sleepy but she kept trying to get me hard and saying I had to do it again.
>>75914887
What about dicks, what if you get that affirmative action guy who fucks you in the ass while you pay $200/HR.
Or is that not a part of your fantasy where government regulates everything to your particular desire?
Pedophiles? What for them? They're one of the lowest demographic minorities. (I guess we can call them Muslims for the sake of normative argument).
>>75915408
>Maybe it's an act, maybe it's not, I
I dated an escort girl once. She was enthralling, but I still actually don't count her as my best lay, even though she played out each and every fantasy, and maybe even created a few.
In that concept we could just make a thread of "X race will do ANYTHING you ask"
Oh wait, those are the pro-japan threads.
>>75881408
I had sex with 10 women before I payed for a hooker.
I honestly never thought I would, but I can safely say that a high quality prostitute (not the 50Euro skank) is worth every penny, for the occasional lay.
I never felt as much of a man, after fucking a 10/10 escort.
The only reason why I dont do it frequently, is because Id rather save up than spend 1k on a weekend.
>>75915706
How is being a woman comparable to being a pedophile?
>>75915271
The man has the right to choose a woman or not, you can't enforce any quotas for who gets punters or not because it's the punters choice.
Sex workers/brothels should have to provide safe premises for both themselves and the punters safety.
Punters should be liable for not paying (in an illegal system a man can just not pay and get away with it).
Escorts must be provided with and comply with having STD checks to ensure escort and punter safety.
There are many many ways to improve the system.
>>75915794
>>75915827
What? The message apparently didn't translate well.
He's from the UK (And we're from the USA, not too far behind).
If the government is going to control something (prostitution) It's going to regulate it, it's going to even it.
What? You don't want to fuck a BLACK woman? You're not allowed in THIS establishment. How long until they're all getting butt blasted for 200/HR for equality?
>That's a slippery slope!
Yeah they said that about gay rights and muslims....
>>75901273
>>75901792
>>75902980
>>75903441
>>75903849
Germany is right.
I am truly, sincerely sorry for what my country did to yours during/after WWII.
We were suckered into fighting the wrong enemy for sure.
I do hope you guys can manage to pull out of your current situation and make Germany great again. Maybe next time we'll get it right.
>>75916041
No one tells you what Bread or Milk to buy, you have a choice. Stop being so pedantic.
I had sex with a Filipina whore who I was not romantically invested in. Biggest regret of my life.
I lost my virginity to a woman who had had 20+ dicks in her already for the sole purpose of not becoming a wizard.
>>75917171
>pedantic
I'm certain you've no idea how that word applies, if anything you're being semantic for the chance to evade reality.
If pussy if the product at your local market, are you able to choose who is your cashier? If you can genuinely say yes, I've got a truly sad vision for your future.
Call corporate after that guy fucks you in your ass for 2 hours and you pay him $400 in your non-house-buying currency. Good luck comrade.
>think prostitution is degenerate
>consume and support pornography which is literally prostitution with a camera
I hope you guys don't use porn, or looks like you are all supporting prostitution.
>download Tinder
>match with a Greek girl
>says she want to get married in Greece
>"but its full of Greeks"
>she says "im Greek" and gets triggered
>start arguing about German war reparations
>tell her that that Greeks need to pay debts
>get unmatched
>disappointed, rent a hotel room for my 6.3/10 fuckbuddy and I for tomorrow
>another Friday night of lackluster blowjobs and empty stories about the girls from work
Just legalize it, at least hookers are unanimously racist.
>>75917768
TL;DR
>Have autism
>Show Powerlevel
>Buy blowjobs
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Emoji aside I'd used both raised hands to slap some sense into you, or to grip a doorway and evacuate the premises of a betacuck. Shit son, sad.
>>75917317
Should have done it again, it's what I did. You're first times gonna be shit no matter what.
I recently lost my virginity to a whore and it was terrible, but since I'm not an over emotional faggot I knew it was because of my awkardness. I got another a few days later and it was better. I have now fucked 7 girls over the last few weeks (which includes the one I lost my virginity too) and it pretty much gets better as you go along. Your first time you will be a beta faggot, probably wont be able to get hard and will be embarrassed, after a few warm up sessions you will relax, become more alpha, order the girl around, have the confidence to get her to do the really kinky stuff you like and have the hard cock to enjoy it since you are more used to sex now and are not nervous.
The other night I got one with a THICC ass and I played with her thighs and ass for like 30 minutes before I even fucked her. Good time. Once you are more confidence the whore will usually have a better time too, and it's a good thing if she gets horny because she will do things to you without asking. I've had multiple girls just start liking my nuts and ass now, and some girls kissing me and licking my nipples and chest, some want to continue fucking/have a second round after I already came too.
>>75918164
She's not a hooker, I'm saying I want legal hookers so that the process is more expedited so that I don't have to waste so much time listening to nothing in exchange for limited gains
>>75881408
To be fuck a whore you have to be a failure. Physically or mentally, or both. I do and I know my kind.
It should be allowed everywhere. Not encouraged tho.
>>75918293
TLDR
>Givemedatlegalwhores
>I need to by puss because I don't know how to pull puss
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All you'd get in my area or among my friends, or hell among the girls you're paying, is a laugh
>Well I cummed tho so HA!
yeah, it's called a napkin nigga cost $0.012
Sad. You use /pol/ so I'll hope you won't kill yourself even though you probably will, but, at least put your head in a garbage bag so people don't have to clean up brain matter.
>>75917698
>mfw no one can argue with my post
>>75918236
That's hilarious because your description perfectly matches my first time. Had a difficult time getting hard because she just starfished it. Not to mention the condom I got was too fucking small lmfao my first time was a mess. But I'm probably going to fuck this friend of mine in a month or so when we go on a road trip. I'm in love with her so I feel like it'll go a lot smoother
>>75918542
I pulled the girl that I have sex with though my dude, my entire point is that I don't want a relationship or even the socialization required from a casual relationship. Obviously if some perfect motherly chick came along I'd commit and put a ring on it, but I'm young and basically just fucking right now so I'd rather have hookers instead of random airheads that I have invest time into knowing that the investment won't lead to much. It's the whole drawn out process vs the quick and easy transaction.
I mean if we're going full moral righteousness NatSoc authoritarian, then sure, make it illegal, but the US is already pretty degenerate anyway and legal prostitution could turn the US into the Berlin that inspired the conservative sentiments in Germany in the first place, and would also save me a lot of time and energy.
>>75919063
>200 post into a thread
>Thinking you've said anything original
You won the 4chan :)
>>75881670
paying for prostitutes is literally the disgusting activity of humankind
>>75919169
>but I'm young a
No kidding, huh.
>>75917698
You have reason, well... time to leave the porn.
>>75919177
>still not an argument
>>75919486
I can't stop farting. I started farting at 200 replies and I just can't stop. Though, dude bro, you seem that new Pewdiepie vid he posted 20 min ago xDDDDDDD
>>75919305
Say's the lifelong virgin
>>75919351
Look man, I don't care enough about prostitution to argue about it anymore and we're 200 posts deep so we're basically beating a dead horse anyway. What effect do you think it would have on gender relations? Virginity has lost value to the mass and sex itself is the social commodity now, so wouldn't flooding the market with sex re-instill the value that virginity once had, leading to a larger pool of chaste women to consider for marriage? My big dilemma here is that I want to get married to a woman who doesn't have a significant sexual history but I also want to have sex in the meantime.
I'm a hypocrite but that's what it is. Legal prostitution would make sex accessible to basically everybody and encourage women to remain virgins in opposition to it, which would itself lead to more stable marriages. It's a win-win. Again though, if we're shooting for pure moral goodness then I agree that it should be illegal, I just feel like that goal isn't actionable right now, especially in this environment.
>>75881408
1. it's the natural way of things
2. it reduces rape by making sex available
3. unless women are too retarded to make their own decisions, it is consensual
4. when it's not consensual, another crime is being committed that has nothing to do with prostitution
5. banning it just drives it underground and makes it more dangerous for the hooker
6. fuck yes it should be legal
>>75891315
I imagine the prostitution business is a bit different where you live. Most anglo countries have hangups about sex and sexuality that lead to some pretty junkyard-dog types in that industry.
I wouldn't enjoy a conversation with a porn star either, but I've never had to have one.
>>75883013
This.
+prevent human trafficking.
I know it's not really a big problem, like antiprostiution advocates make it out to be, but with the illegal nature there is no transparency and theoretically women can be forced into it, etc and have no legal reprocussions if a client fucks with them, forcing them to resort to using criminals.
Gov. Can help establish fair trade hookers or whatever. Transparent prostiution would probably seriously damage human trafficking and slavery.
>>75920018
>What effect do you think it would have on gender relations?
And to that I'd ask you, what IS prostitution? That relations are simply a translation?
Matybe if you'd be a dipshit liberal who's lost his way or been led astray - What would that mean for the LESSER prostitutes?
Equality for all the anthem everyone has been preaching, isn't it? Pucker up that butthole, bud.
>Things got shitty and sex isn't respected anymore
Yeah, welcome to the world of all of us non-degenerate men above the age of 21.
>Prostitution makes life ez mode
Ok, well, If I die before you do, then spit on my grave, and if you die before I do I guarantee you I'll spit on your grave.
>I don't give a fuck about anything but myself and my cumshot
Noted. Treated as such. The sad part is your family and friends probably noticed your weakness and treated you as such long before I or anonymous ever talked to you.
What are you fucking POOR? How is this different from paying for any other luxury service?
Fuck I hate poor NIGGERS.
>>75921048
Why are you so hung up on this? Not being sarcastic, I'm legitimately curious. What do you know that I don't know that has made you so seriously opposed to the idea?
>>75920549
I agree with everything here
