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wow... really makes you think...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/01/why-we-should-close-womens-prisons-and-treat-their-crimes-more-fairly
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>>75851031
Do crime.. Do the time

End of discussion
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>>75851031
most defiantly
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>>75851031
Um, excuse me, this is 2016 people!

Why are prisons segregated!?

Men and women are equal human beings and deserve to be treated equally. I think prisons need to get with times or get lost.
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Agreed, women convicted of crimes ought to be used as sex slaves instead.
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I refuse to read stupid cunt opinions.
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>>75851296
Amazingly, a dude wrote this.
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>>75851031
>sending criminal women to jail
>not sending them to do community service
>by serving men
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The end in near
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>>75851031
WHOA
DUDE
GOOSEBUMPS
LITERALLY
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>>75851031
It sure looks dark in there.
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>WE WANT EQUALITY
>No Selective Service for us!
>No prison for us!

When women and homosexuals speak of "equal rights", they just mean "special privileges".
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>>75851323
He can still be a stupid cunt. :^)
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>>75851031

they're all niggers colour me surprised
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>>75851462
More of a cuck really.
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>>75851031
lol, they can't be serious with this shit...
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>women once again, proving that they aren't equal to men and have different standards

This is why feminism is dying and being laughed at. At least in Britainstan anyway.
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>>75851031

>Treat their crimes more fairly

Wouldn't that mean INCREASING women's prisons and incarceration rates?

Or does the Guardian using an ancient English definition of "fair"?
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>>75851031
>that headline
>one of the few actual gender inequalities in the US is prison sentencing
>some want to get rid of women's prison entirely
>"oooomg fucking Men's Rights like wow how are men even oppressed seriously can you not because I can't even"
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>>75851642
Fairly as in unfairly as in not punishing them for their crimes.
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>>75851031

i wonder who will take advantage of this ?
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>>75851642

Feminism is about challenging systems of privilege and oppression as part of the fight against the patriarchy. Incarcerating women "criminals" whom, the article writer shows are actually victims, is simply another way of keeping women down in society.
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>>75851031
>Mirko Bagaric
>MIRKO BAGARIC

FUCKING SERBS
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>>75851416
>[USER WAS GASSED IN THE LIBERAL TOLERANCE CHAMBER FOR THIS POST]
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>>75851031
It's true though, guys. When a women commit a crime it's just the byproduct of the evil patriarchy, thus then men should be punished, not her.
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>>75851187
This, its 2016.
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Professor Mirko Bagaric, is the Director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Sentencing at Deakin University, Melbourne. This is a summary of his article Mitigating the Crime that is the Over-Imprisonment of Women: Why Orange Should Not Be the New Black which will be published in a forthcoming edition of the Vermont Law Review.


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>>75851031
This os all part of the kikes plan to allow everyone but the white male to be criminal.
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>>75851671
I AM THIS CLOSE ][ TO TURBOSLAPPING A CUNT INTO ONLIVION
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>>75851715
the fun thing is most criminals are betas so they will get abused by a woman
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>>75851031
>Women do of course commit homicide offences, but nearly always the victim is a relative and the crime was committed against the backdrop of an abusive relationship or depressive mindset.

reminder

>if it weren't bad enough that he uses "depressive mindset" as a justification for murder
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genuinely thought this was fake

holy shit, lads
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>>75851864
>at Deakin University, Melbourne
>Melbourne

every time
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>>75851864
>they're literally pushing this idea because of that fucking netflix show about the women's prison
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>women are more than 50% of the population but only do 20% of the crime
So you can use stats for gender based crime analytics but not ethnicity???
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>Desegregate prisons

Well if you think there is a lot of rape outside of prison...
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>>75851998
>taking her money
this is very ironic as it's usually women who take their husband's money, that's why most gold diggers are women
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>>75851031
Women already get lenient sentences for crimes such as pedophilia.
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>>75851031
ayy lmao, so much for treating woman and men as equals.

bitches if you can't do the time don't do the crime.
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>>75851145

Be black.

>Do more time than whites for the same crime.

Checks out.
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>>75851864

>Melbourne

(((MERELY A COINCIDENCE)))
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>>75851031
>Mirko Bagaric

A croat sucking up to the west and western values, how surprising.
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>>75852114

We do have stats for ethnic crime here.

No shit, your fucking MTV channel used the statistic that Aboriginals are massively over represented in prison (something like 30% of the prison population while being less than 2% of the general population) as """""evidence""""" of Australians institutionalized judiciary racism.
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>>75851031
So the author ends the article with what was probably his main point, and it's a reasonable political argument that is at least debatable: maybe we shouldn't imprison people for non-violent crimes (thus people who do less serious stuff would be dealt with in other ways than prison)

Okay, that's an interesting point to make. I'm skeptical of it but I'll hear him out on why he thinks it's a good idea.

So how does he make the argument? By turning it into a feminism argument on how women shouldn't be locked up.... but isn't that funny.... don't feminists want equality? If we treat women as special snowflakes that can't be thrown in jail, how do we expect them to be cops/firefighters/soldiers?

Sigh, I probably waste too much time on the internet. This article is so fucking retarded I think I'm stupider for just reading it.
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>>75851031
A reminder that the Green Party wanted to entirely eradicate pretty much all crimes committed by women and reclass them as mental illness.

>CJ381 Recognising the nature of the female prison population, with high levels of mental illness, experience of being a victim of crimes such as sexual assault and domestic violence, and caring responsibilities for children, the only women who should be in custody are those very few that commit serious and violent crimes and who present a threat to the public.
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>>75851031
>Mirko Bagaric
Nothing worse than a cucked serb disporia.
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>>75852477

His family probably landed in Melbourne back when it was an Italian-Slav-Greek criminal infested working class hell hole.

Now that's been gentrified thanks to, well, killing everything, they've gone full hipster. He's at least a migrant success story that completely conformed to the host culture.

Pic related. 4chan Melbourne meet up.
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>>75852440

The hipster fag squatting on the left needs to be gassed
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>>75852538

Of course, if a statistic helps prove your point it's 100% factual and correct, if it goes against the narrative you're trying to spin it's racist, it was put together by racists and white men are to blame.
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>>75851031
Treating them fairly would be throwing them in to General population of a male prison.
Be glad they get preferential treatment to go to an all female facility. They couldn't handle the raw physicality of a male prison.
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>>75852690
Croatian* my bad.
Makes him even more of a cuck.
Also
>Melbourne
Nuke Plz
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>>75852709

kek. They don't even try to spin it as white men manipulating statistics. They just outright claim that it """""proves""""' Australia is racist.

It's hilarious.
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>>75852538
Can't wait for mandatory fair jail representation laws across EU-AU-USA: if there are too many PoCs jailed, some random whiteys are thrown in jail to balance the numbers.
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>>75851187
I remember a news when a transgender woman was sentenced in male prison.
She was raped more than hundred times.
Guess they gonna just stick with gender neutral bathrooms
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>>75852440
>>75852700
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listen, if we don't send them to prison but make them sex servants for NEETs and other betas
Think of all the school shootings we could prevent
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>>75852417
I know it's bait but i'll bite.

If you look at the data, the reason blacks do more time for the same crime is because they usually have a criminal record so they are given more time.
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>>75851864
>Melbourne

For fuck's sake.
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>>75851031
THIS SHIT CANNOT BE REAL MAN IT NEVER EVER FUCKING STOPS
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>>75851031
>women commit 13% of all crime
>women make up 8% of all prisoners
>leftist think 8% is too high
What a load of bollocks
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>>75851031
>>75851510
>>75851566

Reminder that Hillary's prison reform policy is basically this. She talks about how there are too many women in prison, and that women should be held to different (lower) standards in our justice system and shouldn't be held responsible for their actions like men are. She basically thinks nonviolent female criminals don't belong in prison.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-clinton-cant-even-keep-gender-out-of-criminal-justice-reform/article/2589760
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>>75851642
Pic-related, women are treated even better than white people in our justice system.
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>>75852700
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>>75851642
>using results based equality for jail
>using the Jews tricks against herself

Noice
It's time for quota systems for females in jail
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>>75853679

Moral agency is where we derive the concept of rights from.

Children and animals lack moral agency so they have limited rights compared with adults.

The feminist paradox is this; if women lack the same responsibility for their actions (moral agency) then how can they have the same rights as men?

I'm happy to not send women to jail based on the assumption they aren't responsible for their actions, but that comes at the price of women becoming property of their responsible husbands and stripped of their freedom and right to vote, becoming effectively, like they were in the past, children. This is what almost every philosopher throughout history has believed.

Femnists want women to absolve women from responsibility, but at the same time retain the same, if not more rights than men.

Pick one ladies.
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Holy shit they even use the fact that women win custody of children more often than men as reasoning why "society suffers more when you incarcerate a woman over a man."
>Initiate 70% of divorce
>win 80% of custody battles
>you can't punish me for being a criminal, who will take care of the child I stole from his father then!
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>>75851395
Who refried your beans
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>>75851031
>mirko bagaric

I'm sorry for this.
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>>75851031
It really makes me think we need to offer liberals a choice to self-deport or be executed by the end of June.
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>>75854131

Seems cuckholdry has spread to the Balkans
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>>75852440
You gave completed step one by lining them all against a wall, time for step two.
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>>75854044

I guess this our Croat author friend is using a subtle ruse to re-assign women to the "Children" category and revoke their right to vote.

Anyway...We all know women are both not responsible for their actions (or safety, well being, care etc) and both capable of being allowed to have a rational, valid input into society.

Feminists tell me so.
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>>75854168

Do a swap with Canada, all American liberals can go live in their paradise under Trudeau, and all conservatives/libertarians/fascists etc can come to the USA to live under God Emperor Trump. Then build a massive fucking wall around between Canada and the USA, making sure the wall dips down around Detroit.
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>>75854216

Leave /fa/ alone.

They're autistic.

You wouldn't line up /fit/ and shoot them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyz8mhA1TwM
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>>75853029
>She
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>gender segregating criminals

Ugh. Its 2016. If women can vote, serve in the army, and fly space ships, they should be allowed to serve in the same prisons as the men.
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>>75851031
>The Guardian
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>>75854688

>boys who so often took our jokes and said them a little bit louder

>females
>funny
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>>75851031
>being woman is literally get out of jail free card

Pottery!
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>>75853029
Watch this, trans in prison are basically prison cocksleaves. In order to be raped you have to not enjoy it so much.

https://youtu.be/sSk7iAYWhnY
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>>75852114
if anything, this tells me that we should imprison more women. they are equal after all so they are doing equal amount of crime right?
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>>75852185
That's not even what's being said thats whats so rad! The absolute madman straight up wants to remove prison sentences for women.
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>Deakin
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>>75855202

No. Women to equal to men in every single way except where men are worse.
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>>75852700
where's the neck dude?
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>>75852700
Is that trent reznor sperm baby on the far right?
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>>75851998
uh aren't a lot of those women in prison for murdering their own children? how is that abusive relationship?
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That show is fucking stupid
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>>75851031
Yes, I totally agree.
I mean women don't commit horrifying crimes.

The woman who last year in my state of Queensland slaughtered her eight children was just misunderstood and doesn't deserve to be in prison...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_child_killings
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>Women almost never scare us; commit random acts of serious violence; violate our sexual integrity; or form organised crime networks and yet their prisons numbers are now the highest in recorded history

What the fuck? Why is this cuck using semicolons this way?

I've never seen this before, is this common practice?
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>>75857324

No; It's a Croat; who doesn't understand; punctuation,.
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>>75851031
This makes me want to kill myself.
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>>75851187
True! And why are there woman's basketball teams in college? Why isn't half the team male? The wnba and nba should join.
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>>75851031
>Mirko Bagaric, jabba yabba from Melbourne
>Australian
It's like pottery
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>>75857416
He's Australian actually. It's just postmodern banter on an academic level, nothing someone like us might even begin to udnerstand.
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>>75851031
>Women almost never scare us; commit random acts of serious violence; violate our sexual integrity; or form organised crime networks
Stopped reading there
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>>75851031
>men and women are the same when it comes to being paid
>men and women are different when it comes to be being punished
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>Professor Mirko Bagaric is the Director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Sentencing at Deakin University, Melbourne.

AUSSIE SHITPOSTERS STRIKE AGAIN
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>>75851031
>should
is mute
as they already are
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>>75852417
> White man gets caught with a joint.
> Oh fug.jpg
> shuts the fuck up and lawyers up
> shows remorse
> is polite
> first offense
> judge lets him off with a slap on the wrist

> Black man gets caught with a joint
> I DINDU NUFFIN! THIS BULLSHIT!
> FUCK YARR ASS YA CRACKA!
> IMMA BUST A CAP IN YARR ASS, YA HERRRR ME?!
> Assaults cop
> Assaults 2nd cop
> tries to run away
> Flips off judge in court
> repeat offender
> also had illegal gun on him at the time of the arrest
> still unpayed child support pending, which too is an offense
> threatens to kill the judge if sentenced to jail again
> Somehow ends up with a longer jail sentence then the white guy
> THIS SYSTEM BE RAYSISS MAN!

Tell me this isn't accurate.
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>>75860302
This isn't accu- HA. Good fucking God, that is accurate, although your african-american ''''accent'''' was more like that of a pirate.
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>>75851031
I agree, place female prisoners into the same general population as all other prison inmates.
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>"not only should women be treated more leniently because they commit less serious crime but they should also be treated more leniently when they commit the same crime as a man."

>"we want equality"
>"LOL CHILL OUT ANON,YOU AND YOUR SILLY SLIPPERY SLOPES"
this won't last for long
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>>75859586
he sounds like a fucken slippery wog cunt to me.
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>>75853029
>100 times

I remember that and that's wrong. They ended up averaging being raped like 10 times a day for years after adding them all up.
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>>75854688
>she obsessed with her own daughter's feces.
Congratulations?
Was this supposed to be journalism?
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>Mirko Bagaric
Slavs can be cucks?
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>>75853029
>>75851187
There's a small part in the Witcher books describing how they abolished segregation in prisons for equality. Poles can be funny
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pretty sure sentencing for women already works like that
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>>75861465
Was it?
In B&W there was a prison where they tried to pamper the prisoners norway style.
Everyone there was slaughtered.
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>>75851031
Such cuckold levels... I didn't think it was possible. I think he has ascended to a new level, a higher plane.

Also (((Bagaric)))
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So men and women are equal when it suits them?
Equal rights, equal pay, gender is a social construct, etc.
But men and women are not equal when it hurts women?

They want to have their cake and eat it, too?
The slippery slope is becoming realer every day.
Thanks, feminism.
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>>75853679
she's going to be a prison soon so im not surprised
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>>75857893

>Australian

>Named Mirko

10 to 1 odds he watches soccer.
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>>75861396
His parents are Slavs he was born and raised in Australia.
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>>75860737

>Yaerdme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvO73fHiY1g
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>>75861396

Anything that gets dropped into Melbourne becomes cucked unless it's a violent Sudanese "refugee"
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>>75861803

First it was equal opportunity. Then it was equal outcomes. Now it's equal success.
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look at the cunts other article

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/05/indigenous-australians-and-african-americans-deserve-a-sentencing-discount
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>>75861932
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>>75853237
Asking with aggravating factors (they use guns, added drugs, severity etc).
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>>75861039
Because the patriarchy/men push them to do it.
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>>75851864
>tfw attending deakin
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This would set the precedent that prisons are cruel punishment, this would also make mens prisons unconstitutional. Then there will be nowhere to send all those people doing the 1 out of 4 rapes of every women
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Look at the other articles this guy wrote.

>Crime: Indigenous Australians and African Americans deserve a ‘sentencing discount’

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/05/indigenous-australians-and-african-americans-deserve-a-sentencing-discount

So basically only white males should ever go to prison.
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>>75861396
look at what country he is from
>Australia
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>>75851031
>wow... really makes you think...


You know, Maybe we should take the opposite stance here on the Black issue. I propose that all blacks should be immediately imprisoned until they can pass a battery of test s that display their ability to function like actual humans in polite society.

What does /pol think?
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>>75851864
>Vermont Law Review
Kek, no one will care aside from feminists.
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>>75863685
>Indigenous Australians
>African Americans

I'm confused as to whether this is supposed to be in Australia or America.
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>Mirko Bagaric
What do you expect from a Croat?
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>>75851031
just admit you're broke as a nation tbqh
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>>75865257
Kek
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