I have heard a lot of controversy around if ADHD is real. What about other disorders what is real and what is fake?
No, it's not real. It's people not taking responsibility for themselves and covering with a bullshit medical catch-all diagnosis.
Personally I highly doubt it. Not every young person is well suited for studious behavior day in and day out, but the school system is hardly a natural environment, from an evolutionary standpoint.
>>75820553
But my dad's girlfriend is adamant that her son has it!
I mean why else would he, a thirteen year old, eat lead fishing sinkers and get bad grades in school?
Don't count on it
>>75820809
>>75820849
Is it just a way for doctors to jew-out and get some money for the pills?
>>75820553
Yeah it is, grossly over diagnosed just like autism but it exists.
>>75820553
What is reality?
You can say ADHD isn't real it's the parents fault >>75820710
but you can say the same thing about almost every mental illness anyone gets, ever.
The real question is should it be a medicinal prescription disorder.
Disorder also means it's not really an illness but just a habitual problem.
The problem is parents and schools. Kids don't get enough time to play, and it's even reflected in educations levels. how boys are 2 grades behind girls in middle of middle school because they want to be running around and doing other stuff.
that's adhd.
my dad got tested for it and was in like 99th percentile of having adhd. he gets adderall and doesn't use it all, so i just sell the pills to kids who cram for exams
>>75821047
autism isn't a disorder, it's literally a way of thinking and functioning that is seen by most as a natural way for the brain to function.
your confusing autism for the ebin may may.
>>75820958
Nooooooo, why would Doctor Goldberg prescribe a medicine Billy doesn't need? Certainly it is not the parent's fault Billy is a little shit and acts retarded
>>75820553
i have so yeah its real.people hype it up to much though.All it really does is make you more hyper and makes it harder to sleep
>>75820553
Yes ADHD is in fact real but its by no means a crutch and easily grown out of with both medication and therapy to correct the disorder.
>>75820553
No it's not but being a teen with a script for speed is kind of rad.
>>75821130
>ASD isn't a disorder
What's the 'D' stand for then nigger
AIDS-DHD is real.
>>75821179
I find ADHD is a sign of a creative kid and a lot of parents agree. It's a intelligent child that isn't challenged or able to express themselves.
>>75820553
Its real. My mother and father, both of whom were doctors, went to several psychologists, pyschatrists and they determined that I had ADHD. In addition to medication, they got me an IEP and did helped me with behavioral and dialectal therapy. It helped me a lot, actually, and I'm very thankful for it.
Some of the symptoms lessen with age, if not disappear entirely in some cases.
However, a lot of parents and educators are fucking lazy, and would rather turn to chemical parenting and pump their kiddo full of fucking stimulants and anti-psychotics rather than actually doing their job.
>>75820958
Dude. That describes the entire pharma business. It's run like software companies sortof.
>>75821186
Dick
>>75821185
If it wasn't for Adderall and Xanax I would have fucking blown my brains in grad school. They're god-sends.
>>75820553
its a euphemism White people use for "poor parenting".
"Oh, he's autistic"
> His parents never said the word "no" to him in case it hurt his feelings
>>75821233
.... thats just parents saying their child is special. that doesn't affect reality that ADHD is a disorder that can be fixed
>>75821250
>can't live without drugs
fucking degenerate
>>75820958
I knew a kid in college who was given an extra 2 hours on exams and an extra week for assignments because he knew a crooked doctor who wrote a note to the school.
So theres that motivation too.
>>75820553
ADHD is simply the next step in evolution.
We are incessantly inundated with a barrage of information. ADHD is the ability to accept and process the info
For mental disorders, I think it comes down to what exactly the symptoms are.
ADHD "symptoms" are shit that probably everyone experiences from time to time, especially kinds that are particularly rambunctious getting stuck in a place they don't want to be though (school). It's not a disorder, it's a completely normal set of behavioral tendencies that ultimately mean nothing.
Then take schizophrenia. A disorder that debilitates someone to the point of loss of motor skills, ability to identify reality, and creates cognitive dissonance to the point where you genuinely believe your thoughts are not your own. That is a mental disorder.
>>75821364
What is prescription medication? your grandpa is a degenerate?
>>75820553
Pretty real. Im diagnosed for a similar trouble (Asperger) And im glad I have my pills. Contrairly to the ones I had before, They have about no side effect.
>>75821250
Second that. Vyvanse are fucking great.
>>75820553
No its not.
t. Person who was """diagnosed""" with it
>>75821356
Doesn't a disorder mean that it can't be cured. Only inhibited.
>>75821364
Won't deny that
>>75821073
I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult after a car accident. I never knew. I can say that, at least for me, adderall changed my life in a good way. I still believe, however, that we may be too quick to conclude kids are ADHD and dope them up just to keep them quiet.
>>75820553
Real or not, playing your disorder cards right can net serious bux.
>>75821379
Yeah that fucking shit even exists in medical school. They get DOUBLE time those fucking mother fucks.
>>75821235
Absolutely true. I agree 100% all of my past research with ADHD that it is heavily over diagnosed and it seems your parents went through the actual process of a correct diagnosis following... im assuming DSM IV since your older?
>>75821472
Vyvanse too. Had concerta before.
>>75821510
No, it just means it doesn't affect a known specific part of the body unlike a disease.
>>75821436
what "you" think is not science guy
>>75821458
Prove it.
>>75821563
That shit grinds my gears so god damn hard. I understand how they have to do it highschool but they do that shit at my university too. If you cant complete the class like the rest of the students you dont deserve to pass. Should we just start giving retards degrees cuz they cant do it like a normal person?
>>75820553
ADHD is the next step in human evolution
they are proto-ubermensch
>>75821563
Yep at least 1/5 of the students at my law school have 'accommodations' written by some greedy M.D,Ph.D or Psy.D. Fucking ridiculous.
>>75820553
adhd is real. I rmemeber fondly (jk it was fuckign horrible), being in day detention and being so unable to focus on my classwork, or even to sit still in my chair.
it may not be a full fledged disorder, but it is a real problem that CAN be coped with and addressed.
I dotn agree with medication, but ill be damned if a few years on medication, and my own desire to be off of it, didn't teach me what my full potential was, and how to cope with and identify my issues.
short term treatment is good. therapy is good. but to allow it to leak into adulthood, and to not learn about yourself is pure degeneracy.
it used to be about studying god. we left that behind. honestly, we need to go back to teaching people that theres a lot fo shit internally that will try to fuck you up, and its up to you to address and identify when and how to push it down and better yourself.
source:
>9 years of Ritalin
>lifetime of sports and studying
I prefer sports and studying to being fucked up on drugs that screw with your heart.
its led me to know when shti is unhealthy, and to know what I can control.
>>75820553
>a lot of controversy around if ADHD is real
No. This scene from The Sopranos sums it up well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyhHOovUTcw
>>75820553
Its a very political disease because its so stupidly hard to diagnose. Its like a cough really, suddenly you cough and then a doctor diagnoses you with lung cancer
>>75820553
Hello OP, and yes it is real.
The majority of people who get meds for it don't have it.
I have it and I am not diagnosed and have no desire to be diagnosed. I maintain a 4.8 GPA with heavy math and science load in college, I did it by taking Nootropics and treating my ADD myself.
I know plenty of people diagnosed as kids, and they took meds for it, and it fucked them up. Ritalin makes you short and stunts growth, Adderall makes you a drug addict.
Nootropics are great, and if I didn't have any calculus classes I would do ok without it.
ADHD is incredibly real. I have it. I do not take medication for it anymore because I have mastered it.
It can literally be seen in brain scans, So anyone telling you it is a lie is a fucking tin foil hate retard that thinks Obama is a good president.
>>75821062
I didn't hear of ADD until i was an adult and it's only been adults that I know that are "diagnosed" with it. They're hyperactive and can't focus on anything, while at the same time can't stop talking or distracting anyone around them. They say once they have their meds they can focus and do their job, but it's a really shitty job. These same people drinks lots of coffee and Monster energy drinks.
Idk, I'm 25+ and I'm trying to get a diagnosis since I space out a lot sometimes.
I mostly check out 15+ all of the characteristics too; I'm unsure if this list has valid criterion
http://www.drhallowell.com/20-common-adhd-characteristics/
>>75820553
ADHD is a kid showing a sign of life as a young child. Teachers are told to teach in a way that benefits women over men, so kids naturally get restless.
>>75821732
How? By throwing a bunch of those on the floor and saying a number straight out of randomness?
>>75821320
I have adhd and am well adjusted with a high IQ and purposely don't medicate myself for it.
>>75821840
>Nootropics
Too weak man.
>>75820553
>/pol/ says its not real
>99% of actual doctors think it's real
>>75820553
Let's ask the expert
>>75821592
> im assuming DSM IV since your older?
Yep.
I was also diagnosed with Aspergers, but now my current psychologist states that I probably had PDD-NOS due to the atypical symptoms I exhibited during development after review.
Crazy how much things are changing within 20 years.
>>75821909
>http://www.drhallowell.com/20-common-adhd-characteristics/
look up ADHD DSM-V and follow protocol. concentration is a learned skill so it could just be you dont like to concentrate dont diagnose yourself
No. It isn't a coincidence that ADD became a thing when corporal punishment was outlawed.
>Got diagnosed.
>Parents saod "Fuck no, he's not getting put on medication."
>Learn to solve a rubix cube.
>Solve cube absentmindedly in classes while following the lesson.
>No longer distracted.
>Fuck yeah rubix cubes.
Fuck Ritalin. Seriously, fuck that stuff. I watched it fuck up so many of my classmates.
>>75820553
Almost everything in the DSM is bullshit. Psychiatrists effectively vote on what is and what is not a disease/disorder.
>>75821732
360
>>75820553
Most of the lower level stuff is complete bullshit. Like I was diagnosed with ADD but it's just because I space out a little more than the normal guy. Its mostly a meme disease. However the upper level stuff is actually a problem because these people literally have the attention span of a goldfish and just act fucking retraded but when they do focus they are perfectly fine. It's mostly just over diagnosed so the pharmaceutical field can get more shekels
>>75821235
This.
ADHD faggot here, I can confirm.
>>75822146
I mean, there are lots of conclusions you could say came out of barring corporal punishment. Personally I do not like the idea of others punishing MY child.
>>75821991
I'm in the same boat, tested off medicine as a kid at 131 and 129. They doped me up anyway. Now that i am grown up I have my wife deal with all the shit I can't like paying bills and stuff. I don't take any medication, i do great at work (network engineering)
the one thing I couldn't do too well was college, I take one class online at a time. I pass lots of cert tests though through hyperfocused studying
>>75822188
My parents did biofeedback therapy on a computer.
Basically after putting electrodes on my head, I'd focus on keeping an airplane flying at ground level.
Basically it was designed as a form of passive concentration and focus.
I used to imagine flying a plane along the great plains in order to concentrate.
>>75822225
I stopped giving the DSM any credence when they rebranded Gender Identity Disorder
>>75820553
It's real. But it's often misdiagnosed. Same with alot of other "syndromes" and "disorders".
True Story Time
>Oldfag (born in late 60's)
>Always super active and restless
>Had hard time sitting still K-2
>While in 2nd grade school nurse refers my mother to a specialist.
>Dr gives my Mom medicine to stop my hyperactivity (now blanketed into ADHD)
>Mom hates how the drugs makes me act (I'm real calm now, but no longer curious or constantly asking why)
>Tells Dr and Dr said I need to be on at least 3 months
>Mom stops that shit after about another week
>NO MORE DRUGS
>She changes my diet (basically no more sugar,candy) and surroundings
>I go back to normal at first, then want to fight everybody, then finally start calming down
>Years later I earn several scholarships in HS
>Attend Uni and now, after many moons, own an engineering business
In all honestly, if it wasn't for my Mother I'd probably been another ADHD or Autistic adult.
THANKS MOM!
>>75822450
>rebranded
>stilla book on mental disorders
hows that insecurity and buttmadedness doing for ya?
>>75822045
99% of doctors aren't psychs. Most docs will never question what a psych tells them because it's not their area of expertise. Docs get through med school by memorizing or cheating, there isn't time to sit and question everything that's shoved down their throats. They can ponder the validity of their science once they're earning six figure salaries.
My experience is mainly with autism, so I'll comment on that as an example of "real and fake" disorders. I have several family members diagnosed as autistic, and was actually diagnosed as autistic myself at one point, though they later changed the diagnosis. I currently work in public schools with kids with special needs, including ADHD and autism.
Autism is diagnosed with a checklist of behaviors and personality traits. Last I checked 3/5 items was autism, 2/5 was not. This means that there is literally no single thing that all people with autism have in common other than being weird enough to get referred to someone who can diagnose stuff like autism. Additionally, many of the elements on the checklist are subjective; this is part of why one of the five or so doctors who did various tests on me when I was a kid made a diagnosis of autism while the others did not. So while autism exists in the sense that these behaviors exist and are positively correlated with each other, it does not exist in the sense of being a cohesive syndrome with a universal cause or universal symptoms.
Basically, autism is a description, specifically a description of behavior, and rather a vague description at that. It is not a diagnosis in the sense of identifying cause. It's almost certain that there are several genetic and environmental causes of autism which are not at all related to each other, and which interact in complex ways when multiple causes are present in the same individual.
It's my impression that most psychological issues are diagnosed in similar ways and therefore represent similarly descriptive diagnoses as opposed to the more causal diagnoses we expect from medicine. Psychopathy, for example, is infamously ill-defined, and actually defined in contradictory ways by different specialists in different countries.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist#Comparison_with_psychiatric_diagnoses
tl;dr mental disorders are merely descriptions of behavior
>>75822587
>being on 4chan past 25
getting off the medicine definitely didn't save you from become a giant loser
What kind of person born in the 60's is on 4chan? Fucking LOSER
>>75822587
eh I am an engineer with ADHD what the fuck are you talking about? You don't "get" ADHD or autism you are born with it. Unless you are a vaxer.
>>75822109
you sir are a fucking fool.
look at all that click bait on the side of your site...
I've actually had to debate this before... long story short because your an air breathing retard....
thats not actually what Dr E. said
German-English translation was very poor in the initial story which was changed to many different versions of the claim
Dr. E actually said that the influence of genetic dispositions of ADHD were overestimated.
He was commenting on how vastly over diagnosed the disorder became.
get out with your garbage
>>75822414
I got medicated for general anxiety order after I tried to jump off a bridge, but it was really just adhd medication. I just stopped being able to think while I was on it. Had to drop all of my classes. It was like I had to put in 5 times the effort just to carry a thought through to the end.
>>75822852
>"general" anxiety
>tried to jump off a bridge
what
>>75820553
I was diagnosed with it as a child after I kept being that annoying kid distrupting class in grade 2.
My parents sat me down and explained what the doctors said I had.
My family was poor so they explained that I would be put on medication and have to see more doctors unless I behaved.
They were willing to do it but it would spell the end of all the nice little luxuries we enjoyed.
So it was stop acting like a retard or you're never going to a theme park again.
I never saw a doctor about it again.
So personally I believe ADHD don't real, it's used because "You're a shitty parent" isn't a diagnosis apparently.
If ADHD is real; I'm glad it's been put on the Autism spectrum. My girlfriend believes she has it as a doctor said she did when she was 12, she got medicated but didn't like the whole 'being a normal functional person' side effect they had as it cramped her style of being the LOLroflcopter XD XD so randumb kid.
About twice a week she'll fully sperg out about some minor thing like being unable to find a sock or that she forgot to buy avacados to eat whole.
Whenever she does this I'll pull her up it usually goes:
>REEEEEE
>Babe, stop sperging out and calm down.
>Stop being mean, it's my ADHD
>I've been diagnosed with that meme disorder too remember? And I'm not acting like I'm Autistic.
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE it's not a meme you Trump loving faggot
This is the point that I'll take off my shirt and walk around the house pumping my fists while chanting "BUILD A WALL" like a retard for 5 minutes.
>male academic performance collapses
>all of a sudden it's realized that almost all the males have a mental illness which explains this away and saves the teachers/parents from having to take responsibility for it
Nah it's totally real, just look at how their performance improves when they're properly medicated it's not like completely normal people perform better at academics when they're on amphetamines or anything.
>>75822764
Where else can you get similar interactions to those 4chan provides?
>>75822601
DSM is literally a dozen friends voting by raising hands whether or not something is real. Sometimes their spouses contribute, because, you know, that's science, that's just like how organic chemistry works.
>>75822764
You'd be surprised. There are a lot of 30 and 40-somethings on 4chan. It's just too much fun.
Now fuck off, leaf.
>>75822933
My spiraling depression stems mainly from anxiety. I probably should have mentioned that in quotations.
>>75822782
>You don't "get" ADHD or autism you are born with it. Unless you are a vaxer.
I have all the symptoms of ADHD, never took the pills i got. I blame my porn and drug addiction though. It's tough, but it's so easy not to study when I can just jack it or smoke the day away. I'm barely scraping by, but eh.
>>75823122
It doesn't seem so general if you were going to jump off a bridge. Is that really what general anxiety is?
>>75822782
I hope your child dies of fucking polio.
ADHD is totally real, but I think doctors use it as a blanket to get kids to calm down in school with tons of drugs.
I personally know I had ADHD and Still have it. I couldn't concentrate to save my life on anything, my college gpa was a fucking 2.1 at a community college. I hated myself because unlike everyone else I just couldn't concentrate.
I saw a doctor and got some medication, that i used very rarely after i became a adult. It helped me so much I transferred to a university and just graduated with a 3.6 gpa.
It feels amazing knowing that i can focus
>>75820553
It's the 90s version of trannies. It was the fad disorder of the day that was "cool" if you had it and a built-in excuse for your parents.
95% of cases aren't real, they just need discipline, counseling, and good parenting. Not medication or acceptance of shitty behavior.
>>75823353
That's just what my prescription said. Also, stopped me from being able to come, but that is a different issue altogether.
>>75820553
It's real. However, it's WAY over diagnosed in children IMO. Most kids who get branded as ADHD OR ADD is due to difficulties in school. Parents just want an easy way to control their kids so they just shove pills in their mouths to help them focus and calm down (if they are hyperactive).
>>75820553
its real but not as prevalent as people make it out to be. They tried to get me hoped up on the medications when i was 4 years old, dad told em to fuck off i was a kid, most of the times its a crutch for educators trying to explain how they cant control a child for more then 3 minuets.
>>75820553
It's real, but only on the east coast.
I wouldn't ever give it to kids.
At that point in their lives I think there are options to change the manner in which you teach them the simple things they need to know.
>>75820553
was diagnosed with adhd around age 8 or some shit. i jsu wanted to go play in the fucking woods with a bbgun because school didnt engage me. im 25 now with a job and fairly certain its bullshit. its jsut for parents to keep their children medicated and under control. How is giving your children amphetamines even legal?
ADHD is very real, it's a chemical issue in the brain with the dopamine receptors not working. There are variants of it, my wife has it and I have seen first hand it's effects. The reason most young adults with ADHD end up taking substances is they don't work the same way as they would on the brain as a normal functioning one. Almost reversing the effect, things that would make you ping off of walls would infact bring them to a level of focus instead of hyper-focusing that assists them. To imply otherwise it's ludicrous, I genuinelly can't tell if the people in this thread are just meme level replies with;
>it aint real lol
There's hard empirical science behind this. I'm not saying there aren't people who are in fact just slack cunts who lack discipline but it is a very real thing.
I was diagnosed with it as a child and I outgrew it
I'm one of the most chill people you will ever meet
I was roudy as a child and tried not to take the pills as much as I could
I don't think you can just grow out of some mental disability like that
>started Ritalin at 17
>went from a possibly retarded lazy slug to a driven as fuck academic god
Dunno, but the meds do work.
Think about, we've entered an age of denial where the family unit has been utterly destroyed, we refuse to properly discipline, everyone is a victim, etc..
It makes perfect sense that society would make up bogus diseases, or recklessly over diagnose real diseases in order to cover up its failures.
I mean, its considered moral to mass slaughter unborn children, giving children mind rotting drugs is nothing when it absolves us of any and all responsibility; people would kill puppies with cheese garters to get their hands on that.
99% of these problems come from having shit teachers and mixed gender classrooms
the pills are very useful for staying awake through long work days though. IMO you should be able to buy them without a prescription. there's no reason NOT to take them
>>75821179
This
Grew out of it freshman in high school
>>75821563
>IEP
>uni
What the fuck?
>>75823051
high five
Yeah it's real, but it's way over-diagnosed
There is a common misunderstanding of what ADHD is I think, I was diagnosed with adhd-pi (inattentive) at 21 I fit every single aspect of the diagnosis.
But it's not always something that needs treatment, it's just my brain is not running at the same "frequency" - a massive layman generalization, than the general population, which only becomes an issue when your required to be highly interactive and competitive with those"normal" people.
I have no doubt adhd exists, I think in places like the US is way over treated and probably over diagnosed too. The diagnosis process here takes weeks and they study nearly every aspect of your life.
>>75820553
No, it is not real. It is literally an excuse for why parents can not control their children.
My psych at one point upped my ritalin dosage or whatever and i ended up assaulting 3 bullies instead of just ignoring them
Thanks ritalin
I believe it's real
however, it's simply a different way of thinking that isn't well suited to focusing on one task, or having a very rigid line of thought
I believe people with actual ADHD are able to be more creative because any trigger sets of their thought process in all sorts of different directions. they can't think straight about one thing because they're too busy with their own irrelevant thoughts
if you give a kid with adhd medication for this you may make him better at life in general, but you may take away some of his creativity
It is the current "we can't educate your kid and don't want to be blamed, so here's a label for your square peg. It is not our fault. It is not your fault (you'd argue) it is your child's fault. But punishment won't help and it would eventually cause you to argue if we told you to constantly whoop your kid. So here is a fake doctor who society has agreed to be an authority who says your kid has a disease. They will make them addicted to drugs whose withdrawal symptoms are the supposed symptoms of the disease. Also we will stop holding your kid to any axedemic standards because if you just accept this label for them we are completely off the hook for getting any results.
Growing up never held to any standards they will confirm throughout their lives that there was indeed something wrong with them.
By the time the disease is debunked (some will cling to their diagnoses their whole life to have something to blame their suckitude on, these were genuine cases, we won't argue ) we'll have made up a new disease to diagnose the next gen of square pegs with
I think it used to be called absent minded
I'm 22 and I got attention problems most probably caused by major depression, constantly thinking about sudoku and sleep depravation, the truth is ritalin helps a lot at work, but it's addictive and you get cranky when you don't have it.
Also, this is how I get my med
>can't afford kike shrink twice a month, 80 bucks per session
>got private insurance but it doesn't cover mental health
>go to private general doctor, pay nothing because of insurance
>explain that I can't afford kike doctor and that I have attention problems
>"sure bro here's your receipt"
Surprisingly enough, a woman doctor once told me to fuck off, and women are harder to convince.
>>75821073
What does your dad do? I'm curious how someone with those mental traits manages to cope with the demands of life in the long term.
>>75825562
I already lost all my creativity and im a failure at life, dont give your kids pills, let them be one or the other not a failure at both.
>>75820553
why are these troll spam threads allowed
It's the real deal, but it's overdiagnosed. ADHD basically means you have problems with your frontal lobe and have problems with executive function and working memory.
>>75825944
Stuff it. This kind of thread elevates the quality and relevance of discussions around here. Psychology explains a ton of politics.
>>75821436
Fuck you Bob is real prove me wrong faggot
>>75826158
This desu
>>75820553
Maybe.
When I was a kid I was really bad at paying attention, nothing made sense to me and I always got distracted by random shit
My mom was going to put me on some meds but I didn't want to out of a fear that it would change who I am as a person
Now I feel like it's died down, the hyperactivity part of it at least. My memory is still pretty shit.
>>75826903
Giving stimulants to children seems fucked up in my opinion, I'm 21 and just started Ritalin and it's changed my life, more focused, less anxious but above all really just feel more like myself.
I'm glad I was never put on it as a kid through, I'm sure it would fuck with normal brain development.
>Is ADHD real?
Yes.
>Are millions of children misdiagnosed with ADHD when they are really just assholes?
Yes.
>>75827237
I feel like i shoukd get on ritalin, i feel like i nay have not grown out of it completely
>>75827345
This
>>75821364
I have IBD. Without drugs I would literally bleed to death from bursting ulcers.
Am I degenerate?
Russell Barkley has some pretty insightful videos on Youtube about it if you have a couple hours to waste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzhbAK1pdPM&list=PLzBixSjmbc8eFl6UX5_wWGP8i0mAs-cvY
>>75820553
It's real but people are diagnosed with it way too often
>>75828832
Pretty much, they will diagnose any 6 year old with it
I mean most kids just want to fuck around, not learn.
>>75820553
It's real, but it is absolutely over diagnosed. It's mostly used as an excuse to give children prescription amphetamines, which fucks up their brain chemistry and makes them retards for life. This is exactly what the Jews want, a brain dead populace who are easy to sell shit to, they don't want free-thinking individuals who might rise up against them.
I think it is but I also think the system is broken. A parent will go to a behavior therapist because their kid is a nutjob and 9/10 times they'll go with the safe diagnosis of ADHD. Then you just have a crazy, dangerous kid hopped up on meth. Happened to my brother, who ended up being bipolar/schizophrenic.
>>75820553
no it is not.
almost all of medical science is made up.
>>75820553
no.
it is a way to get white males ejected from society by drugging them at an early age.
>>75829447
Our eyes are not real, too, so how are we supposed to see ADHD
>>75820710
First post. Best post.
>>75829229
i was a blue pilled communist until i started taking the jew pill at 14. Stimulants make you perceive more reality, and not better reality.
>>75821186
Are you implying that a name or title ensures something to be a fact rather than objective empirical evidence?
>>75820553
It's because we have a feminized pussy country so boys who act like boys and not girls get heavily medicated
>>75820553
Some guy I know has a teen who acts like any regular kid who apparently has ADHD, his parents make him take his meds for it and he turns into an antisocial completely different person who is very dislikeable when I see him. Sad part is the kid doesn't like it either but he's still a minor who needs to listen to his parents.
ADHD and adderall is the Jews way of controlling the next generation.
>>75830281
Nice meme
>>75821379
>>75821563
Yup when i heard there was essentially "special ed" for people in cacadamia i pretty much lost all faith in it.
I had a gf who would "proofread" one of the professors papers which basically meant rewrite. He was dyslexic bare fluent in english but noneheless had papers he "wrote" published in journals.
I was diagnosed with ADD (not hyperactive) when I was 13 and, while I do believe it is probably massively over diagnosed, I also believe it's real.
I take Adderall XR to help me with school work and it really does help. I only take it on days where I will be doing school work or some other task that requires me to focus well. I don't want to become dependent by taking it too often and I don't want to have to take a higher dosage. I honestly don't like the way the medicine makes me feel at first if I haven't taken it in a long time, but the side effects become pretty much unnoticeable after about a week of taking it every other day.
I can also believe why people don't believe it's real, there are a lot of incentives to fake it for college students. Just tell your doctor you can't focus and bang! instant access to amphetamines.
I can only describe it as extreme difficulty focusing on the task at hand, it's like, if there is anything else I can be doing or thinking about I will do that instead. Eventually I just bounce from task to task without actually accomplishing anything because I am unable to spend any meaningful amount of time on one task. My roommate will come back from class and just study for like 2 hours without taking more than 2 breaks the whole time. I can't even imagine being able to do that without medication. I really don't want to be on meds my whole life so I have started taking steps towards being able to focus without it, but it's extremely difficult. People have accused me of faking it to get drugs before, I wish I was faking it.
Also, people who don't have ADD/ADHD have told me Adderall makes them feel high like they can do anything, is that for real? I just feel more able to focus and some tightness in my muscles which is actually very irritating (this goes away after about a week of taking it though).
How come only white kids seem to get autism and ADHD?
>>75821472
Fucking love vyvanse too. The price kinda sucks though, I'm paying 200 a month
>>75833439
Because non-whites aren't expected to do well in school anyway.
>>75833439
because minorities can't afford to see a psychologist
>>75820553
absolutely. My friend has this bullshit. He can't focus on more than one thing to save his life. If something is on his mind performance on everything else completely evaporates until he nuts up and insists "I have to call _______", or "Gotta go take care of this _______". It becomes painfully obvious he isn't 'here'. His mind is somewhere else.
It wouldn't be such a big deal, but he's extremely passive so sometimes things drag on until you have to call him out and literally order him to go and take care of whatever bullshit is bothering him.
Problem is, this guy is a rare case. I have other friends who also have "ADHD" but aside from a few peculiarities it isn't like they really stand out. Chances are ADHD, and especially ADD are overdiagnosed where mothers and educators are a little upset that young boys don't give a shit about doing what women tell them to.
>>75820553
>Is ADHD real?
No
