http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
>In blunt testimony revealed on Tuesday, former managers of Trump University, the for-profit school started by Donald J. Trump, portray it as an unscrupulous business that relied on high-pressure sales tactics, employed unqualified instructors, made deceptive claims and exploited vulnerable students willing to pay tens of thousands for Mr. Trump’s insights.
>“I believe that Trump University was a fraudulent scheme,” Mr. Schnackenberg wrote in his testimony, “and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.”
>The most striking documents were written testimony from former employees of Trump University who said they had become disenchanted with the university’s tactics and culture. Corrine Sommer, an event manager, recounted how colleagues encouraged students to open up as many credit cards as possible to pay for classes that many of them could not afford.
Trump is a fucking scumbag. STUMPED!
A SMALL LOAN
>>75780141
>Mr.Schnackenberg
>Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
Why can't he just admit he was wrong and pay people back?
>Sommer
>Mr. Schnackenburg
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
I'm so proud of you /pol/.
Never change lads.
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75781016
>>75780141
>Someone is dumb enough to fall for the for profit school scam
>Hurr it isn't my fault they are evil
Anyone who went to a for profit college should be surgically sterilized.
>>75781016
>PWWeJPhc
>WeJ
>JeW
>Schnackenberg
This cant be real
So is the argument that he is faking testimony to facilitate a Jewish agenda?
>>75780141
> Mr. Schnackenberg
Oy vey.
Reminder this guy went to work for Glenn Beck after he worked for Trump. Totally unbiased guy tho
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
The NYT comments section presents far more compelling arguments than any of you in this thread.
>Schnackenberg
>>75781016
>PURE COINCIDENCE
>I AM TELLING THE TRUTH GOYMS
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
>>75780379
The jewiest sandwich shop owner in town
>>75781070
>scamming people is OK because it's their fault if they fall for it
Fantastic logic
This is going to be the Left's fake outrage-that-never-completely-goes-away for the next five months, right? Like the e-mail thing will be for the Right.
>schnackenberg
jesus christ they aren't even trying anymore
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
>>75781395
That's because there's no argument to make.
Donald is scam artist. A really clever one, but a scam artist nonetheless.
No one is putting forth any arguments because there's nothing that can be said to contest this notion. So what else to do but to try to avert cognitive dissonance with distractions?
Oh, P.S.
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75781016
>>75781016
>Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75781947
>Trump opens school of business
>Turns out business is just about high-pressure sales tactics
>Hurrr I'm too poor to afford it, it's a scam
Nice try Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75781016
>WeJ
>JeW
You have to go back
Why is his name Schnackenberg? it sounds like a joke name
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
you can't make this shit up
>>75781016
>Snake Mountain
oh god mister coinbergblattgoldsmansteinstein is right i'm a #johnsonmissilenow
>>75780141
Wtf, I'm now #Cruzmissile
>>75781016
>>75780141
>A university preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money
I'm sorry I don't see the difference here.
>>75781016
hello Schnackenberg, how does it feel getting jewed by a FUCKING WHITE MALE
>>75780493
They don't want their money back. The girl who put forth the case against him was previously on video raving how much she enjoyed Trump U. She was removed from the case as a character witness because her story is so weak.
This is clearly kikes trying to run him through the dirt in the courts. Proof - Schnackenberg
Case is already fucked. Once again you anti-Trump faggots blew yourselves the fuck out.
>>75780379
>>75780141
>Mr.Schnackenberg
>>75781070
>well known scammer magically changes all his political positions before running for president
Yet you still support him. So you must be as dumb as them.
Anyone who reads the documents can see what a scumbag Trump is for themselves. Ripping off the financially weak just so he can add their money to his pile of billions. Who even cares if it was "legal", he's still a disgusting piece of shit for doing it.
>but hillury bad durrrr
Save it already no one cares
>>75780141
>for-profit
Well no fucking shit Chaim, all universities are for-profit. Typical scummy biased kike trying to make it seem worse than it is.
>>75782359
>>75781947
>>75781172
Stop goyim he's going to make América great again and México will pay for it.
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
Every time.
Stop being right /pol/, pls.
>>75782572
>>but hillury bad durrrr
are you fucking shilling me?
>>75782572
>financially weak
>has enough finances to take classes at Trump U
Yeah no
>>75780770
Why do i want to dick?
>>75782481
>They don't want their money back.
Who are you to say?
>>75783362
There is one person and they were on video saying they liked the courses they took, then she was removed from the case. It's pretty clear retardo
Hey I feel my old university was taking advantage of me for profit. Guess I should get a refund too
>>75780141
>The most striking documents were written testimony from former employees of Trump University who said they had become disenchanted with the university’s tactics and culture.
Basically, liberals lying because they're upset that Trump is running.
>>75780141
>>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75783511
>Hey I feel my old university was taking advantage of me for profit. Guess I should get a refund too
If you feel like you have a case, then go for it.
>>75780141
NY times is not a valid source, it's an opinion paper.
>>75783895
It's a tabloid.
>>75781743
Because you're too young to know this, I'll let you in on a secret. The prevailing wisdom at the time was there was no ceiling to the economy, and to leverage every bit of debt you can to get ahead. Because you could pay it off on the back end. It was the Steve Forbes model.
>Schnackenberg
ahahahaha
>>75783717
This. My university fleeced me as well. Where's my refund? Fuck these scumbags. They're gonna get what they have coming.
>>75784075
This. Especially when it came to real estate. The prevailing theory was that property values were perpetually on the rise. Why the fuck do you think jobless niggers were getting approved for six figure mortgages?
>>75784007
It's a jewloid
>Sulzberger Jr
>>75783362
Here's how class action lawsuits work:
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/open-lawsuit-settlements/
Go sign up for whatever product or service you used in the time frames indicated. In 3-5 years you'll get your settlement check for $4.98.
When they say there's a class action lawsuit of 5000 indicviduals, it's next to meaningless unless it involves some environmental disaster that made your kid a downy.
>>75783851
I'm saying there is no case. You are not obligated a refund after you take the course. That's like eating a candy bar and saying you're not satisfied afterwards.
>Mr.Schnackenberg
Except nobody was physically forced to give away their money. A trade is a trade even a bad trade. In a free market persuasion is allowed and in B2B in many cases the only way to get through a sale.
>Leftists want to take tax money from people at gunpoint and distribute it to single mothers and other degenerates.
This is totally okay tough.
>Had to recuse the very woman who started the case because if she had given testimony the case would have been thrown out immediately
>The left is still trying to push this case
I really hope Trump just kills them all, it would be so much easier
>>75783895
>>75784007
>http://fox2now.com/2016/06/01/ex-employees-on-trump-university-a-fraudulent-scheme-and-a-total-lie/
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/01/trump-university-staff-testimony-fraudulent-scheme
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/york-attorney-general-slams-donald-175433597.html
http://www.wsj.com/articles/out-clintoning-the-clintons-1464642622
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/27/us/donald-trump-marco-rubio-trump-university.html
Dayum son, that is pretty god penetration from a hack slam job published by a yellow rag...
The author could probably write his own cheque at buzzfeed.
>Schnackenberg
>>75784075
Not an argument.
>>75780141
trump is a goddam scammer
next scam is gonna be this country
ICYMI:
Lawyers in Trump U case are big money Clinton donors.
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/exclusive-law-firm-behind-trump-university-lawsuit-gave-big-money-to-the-clintons/
The judge tried to reseal the documents.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/06/trump-university-documents-resealed-223783
>>75784795
>he posts more tabloids
Do you have a point, you sheep fucking faggot?
>>75784937
dumb Schnackenbergposter
>Schnackenberg
>Schnackenberg
>>75780141
As if the brainwashing they do at ivy league schools are any better
>>75784234
Not just in realestate. In literally everything. The advice me and my wife got from our bank's financial advisor, was to buy the best you can on credit when you're young because you'll be able to pay it off later. It was only years later I realized how fucking stupid that goddamn advice was.
>>75784995
>if it slams my gay waifu its a tabloid
Well we have a fairly god handle on your understanding of our media and our politics now. Which is to say non-existent.
Do you have an argument except for ad homs or transparent damage control?
The funny thing is you are probably one of those people who thinks real college is a scam, yet excuse donald trump because you want his masculine penis in your boipussy.
>>75784989
Bastards, hang em high Trump
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75785016
>One sales manager for Trump University, Ronald Schnackenberg, recounted how he was reprimanded for not pushing a financially struggling couple hard enough to sign up for a $35,000 real estate class, despite his conclusion that it would endanger their economic future. He watched with disgust, he said, as a fellow Trump University salesman persuaded the couple to purchase the class anyway.
Wait so Schnackenberg worked for Trump University, and actually was against Jewing people, and was basically pressured to be as big of a Jew as humanly possible.
>>75785520
It's all a scam. I looked into Trump U years ago. All it was, was seminars teaching you how to flip houses. They were pretty up front about what it was and who would be teaching it. Any wisdom they distilled was available from countless other sources.
Just like Harvard. Before all this open university posting old lectures online, before online, you could go to the library and pull up their course catalog, call the department head for a class you wanted, have them mail you the syllabus for free, and read all the fucking books through inter library loans. They're all a scam.
>>75780141
>[[[Schnackenberg]]]
>>75781070
Fun flash fact: all colleges and universities are for profit.
HOL UP
you saying the testimony is form a man named Schnakenberg?
>>75784595
And if Trump loses just because they used high pressure sales tactics, there's going to be a lot of problems for this country. To say it was a scam, they'll have to prove he was selling vapor ware. Which will never happen.
>>75785520
I actually hold a college degree, so I actually am well aware how worthless college is.
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
AHaHAHAHA
PREPARE FOR LIFT OFF, MY SIDES ARE GOING INTO ORBIT
>>75780141
I'll tell you exactly how it went, no shit, I just can't divulgate my identity for obvious reasons
>SHILLARY: yo Arthur (Ochs Sulzberger, Jr.) how you doin?
>SULZBERGER: oh yey, hello Hillary, how do you do? How can I help you? I was just talking about you with ..
>SHILLARY: yup, he told me to call you
>SULZBERGER: sure, no prob, come on tell me eveything
>SHILLARY: you know, X and Y down in Wall Street aren't happy with this campaign, there's this cown that got this grip on people and no matter how many millions we spend, he still ahead of us so
>SULZBERGER: say no more Hillary, let me take care
...Later...
>SULZBERGER: randon Xstein! Come here!
>Xstein: yes sir, how may I help you
>SULZBERGER: find out whom of our people worked with Trump
...Later...
>Xstein: So, mr. Sulzberger, there's quite a bunch of people, there's Y's daughter whom have been working there, then there's Z's nephew who used to work at, or there's Q's grandaughter who was in that place before acquisition, or K's who worked at his university.
>SULZBERGER: who's the one we reccomended the most back in the day? Who's the one who own us the most?
>Xstein: I'd say Schnackenberg, sir
>SULZBERGER: call him now
and that's how journalism work
Hillary has really been pushing this Trump U thing lately.
Is this all they got? I think we've got this in the bag folks
>Mr.Schnackenberg
>Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Mr.Schnackenberg
>>75786748
Yeah. It's all they have.
>>75786519
You shouldn't have done gay and transgender studies then.
>>75782260
Why?
>>75787171
>gay and transgender studies
that would be quite a remunerative career choice actually.
Can you imagine having a fucking master degree on queers and faggots? we are talking real money. government money, double income faggots couple money, dear kangaroo friend
>>75786706
Not everywhere is Italy ruled by a corrupt triumvirate of Berlesconi, the pope and the mob though.
SCHNACKENBERG
>>75787424
at least we are not ruled by kikes, if I may say so myself, dear inmate's offspring
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
OY VEY!
>>75780141
Just like normal university.
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>Jew York Times
Disregarded. Quote an actual credible source next time.
>>75787407
And for every position there will be 15 grads, most of whom will either be better at passing and cuter, or more gay and transgender than you.
So you would be lucky to end up writing 15 reasons buzz feed click bait for dollars on the story.
>>75787424
also,
>Jews are just nothing but a familistic amoral worldwide mafia, I cannot help myself but to think you are literally a bluepilled retard autistic inbred
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
stopped right there
>>75787659
right place at the right time.
If I could go back in time I'd specialise in transger/queer politics.
set for life
>>75780141
>implying all modern universitie aren't scams as well
OP, go home, you're drunk.
I think the real answer lies in wether Trump's businesses hire workers with trump u degrees. Do they?
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>berg
>>75781716
lol
>>75783838
Source?
>>75787523
At least you are not.
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75786055
Source?
>Mr.Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
>>75787523
>>75787674
I have no love for our prime minister. I think he is incompetent and embarrassing. But saying we are run by 'the jews' demonstrates a distinct lack of understanding.
And I am sorry if I hit a sore spot about your country being ruled by the mob though, that wasn't very nice.
>>75780141
For the last time, Trump U is not a school, it's a seminar. A 2-3 day long seminar that is supposed to give some general tips for working with real estate. The "University" in the name is just to give it a little prestige.
https://hapgood.us/2016/03/08/trump-universitys-online-materials-are-a-lot-better-than-your-universitys-online-materials/
Trump University was ahead of its time.
>>75789192
>a little prestige.
I don't know about you but UNIVERSITY is usually a big word. they should actually call it Trump Seminar. there would be nothing wrong with that.
>>75789192
We get it, just like trump isn't a real candidate, he is just playing at one to separate retards from their money and indulge his unjustifiable pride.
>>75782636
how could you possibly be excited for your government losing money?
>>75780141
>(((Schnackenberg)))
FUCK YOU!! you made me check through archive
http://archive.is/Z70Au
So Trump University was basically the same as Up Here in my 500 Hollywood Hills Lamborghini Bookcases guy?
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
>>75789399
They call it The Trump Entrepreneur Initiative now
>>75789750
He's a cuck, hence his support of trump.
>Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
>guys gets rich because so many people believe him
>he's really dumb guys XD what a silly man
I can't take it anymore. Someone take my life.
>>75789534
Damn you are salty boi
Hillary is the new jeb bush... It s been more than a year they try to spread the trump u lie and everytime trump numbers go up
My sides will be in orbit when he wins the case and little shits like you will come here to bitch about it
>>75782525
>GERSTEIN
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
get out
>>75788106
He hires people without degrees. Formal education is a certification you've read the "correct" books. You can find quotes of him talking about how his own degrees are worthless.
>>75789750
Politicians would stole that money anyway, at least a wall will serve for something.
>>75780141
>Schnackenberg
>school choice is a bad thing
many people would want to get their money back from university if they could
also he renamed it to the trump initiative many years ago
>>75780141
Trump didnt start it. Only thing trump has to do with it is the fact that he "leased" out his brand TRUMP to some asshole who ran a fake school.
>>75791589
I'm not a Donald fan but I respect that.
But mostly because I never went to college and struggled to be accepted as legitimate despite being skilled at my trade.
>>75789192
>A 2-3 day long seminar
That costs tens of thousands of dollars? What the fuck?
>general tips
I go to software development conferences that run for days and have multiple tracks and even then the tickets top out at a few hundred dollars.
>>75792617
So you're saying it's fraudulent to offer a service at a steep price, even though it might not be worth the price?
>>75792617
Newsflash, asshole. If you were skilled at your trade, you would get hired. I know plenty of people who never went to college, yet make more than I do.
>>75791602
just curious if the image is actually from the Simpsteins' or shopped
>Schnackenberg
I refuse to believe that's an actual fucking name.
>Schnackenberg
Jesus, this has to be the ultimate jew name
>>75791602
I been waiting for this image, thx leafbro
>>75789192
>Despite Trump University’s advertised claims, consumers attending free seminars did not learn Donald Trump’s real estate techniques. Instead, the lawsuit alleges that Trump University’s instructors made multiple misrepresentations to convince consumers to sign up for a $1,495 three-day seminar. And instead of providing all of the promised services, instructors then used the three-day seminars to pitch consumers an expensive Trump Elite mentor-ship programs costing $10,000 to $35,000.
Wow, nice.
>get people to pay $1500 for a seminar
>it's actually just a teaser for the "real" seminar that costs tens of thousands of dollars
>>75793206
>So you're saying it's fraudulent to offer a service at a steep price, even though it might not be worth the price?
My post definitely does not contain such texts.
>>75793263
>If you were skilled at your trade, you would get hired.
...And I did. Sup.
>>75793784
It's not. It's some kike who changed his name to sound more German when he came to America.
>>75780141
no more a fraud than womens studies
>>75793833
>My post definitely does not contain such texts.
Then what's the issue with it?
>>75791007
>Implying I like Clinton
I am not taking any advice from a country that thinks its developed but still had serious home grown terrorist campaigns in the last 50 years.
And it even sounds like they were from your side of the rosti gap jean pierre.
>>75781395
>for those who point out that hillary has been totally bought and bribed, we get it
>now vote for her
fuck that
>>75793833
>$10,000 to $35,000.
that sounds pretty cheap for a university
how much did yours cost?
>>75781947
>hes a scam artist because i say so
(((Schnackenberg)))
>>75780141
These people are just mad the government didn't cover or back the loans they didn't get to pay for this school.
If it ended in a certificate and even an internship at a Trump sponsored outfit but they had to pay $100,000 to finish, they woukd be happy.
>>75793833
ban upselling! vote crooked hillary!
also was donald even involved with this Trump university, or just his brand name?
>>75781395
>Editor's Top picks.
Yeah, amazing work anon. I love that Pro-Hillary comment that glossed over the fact that she got Americans killed and voted for a war which killed thousands more.
Trump University killed how many people now? How many Americans did we lose from Trump's "failures" compared to Hillary's?
>>75794190
>that sounds pretty cheap for a university
It wasn't technically a university, and it wasn't accredited as such, and they eventually had to change the name to Trump Entrepreneurial Initiative for that reason. So comparing it to the cost of a real university isn't really valid.
>>75794293
Glad you agree.
>>75794458
>jumping to conclusions for me
No thanks
>>75781016
Biased testimony. Actually it is an argument
>>75793319
It is shopped
>>75794505
>How many Americans did we lose from Trump's "failures" compared to Hillary's?
Hillary's a cunt but it's kind of an unfair comparison because they're in completely different positions. I imagine most if not all of us haven't killed anyone, I'd be hesitant to support or vote for someone based on that alone.
Maybe a better question is who will have the higher body count when actually in office. To be honest, I really don't know.
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
>>75780141
>Mr. Schnackenberg
EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
>>75794772
>a real university
who accredits "real" universities then? the government? is that why you have to pay so much more?
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/17/reporter-behind-new-york-times-attack-history-failed-hatchet-jobs/
Motherfucker won't stop
>>75782532
Holy shit, sauce?
These people have never been in high pressure sales environment. I'm sure that's what it was like being in those Trump U seminars.
That shit is just as fucked as mass at a Mormon chapel, but it doesn't mean it's a scam. You just have to know what you're getting yourself into.
t. was a door-to-door salesman and a telemarketer so I have been in those toxic environments but I do not regret the experience
>>75780291
>>75781058
1,000,000 is not much for real estate in NYC.
>>75786784
Oh fuck me, sauce? That's hot as fuck. What is this?
Trump U was run the same as every other for-profit school. Who cares? People dumb enough to fall for "one weird trick" bullshit deserve to be parted from their money.
nothing to see here
>>75792604
That's not true.
>>75795067
Or the question being, why vote for Trump who claims will go after ISIS and their families when you can simply vote for the woman who has a track record of actually doing it?
When to body counts and predicting what will be worse, Hillary is worse cause you already know more of our military will die from either another embassy debacle or being sent to another war on behalf of an "allied" nation.
If I had to pick a poison, I'd pick Trump. Money can be earned back and Trump has the track record of succeeding more than failing.
>>75780141
How is that different from any other American university today? Are they sure they want to go there?
>>75780141
Also, why aren't there mass lawsuits against the schools that give people degrees when they are awarded thousands of dollars in debt and no job?
>>75781395
>editors top picks
>this man has no moral compass
>Hillary does
>>75796309
This is what I'm wondering. There's thousands of schools like this. Are they all getting sued?
Also I find it hard to feel sympathy for someone who goes to a for-profit college, honestly.
>>75796173
>trump sells bullshit degree and he's taking heat
>Universities sell liberal arts degrees for 40k and no one bats a eye
>>75782572
So wait a sec. Trump selling a product that in hindsight turned out to be overpriced is worse than Hillary killing people? Who do you think is going to buy that?
>>75780141
ok you stumped him.
now pls leave
>>75792617
When he talks about his degrees it's in the vein of "you have to be smart to go through the schools I went through". When he talks about his education it's more "I don't know that going to Wharton School of Finance was really worth it". Especially since his weekend and Summer's were spent working for his dad on a housing project where he got his real education in the business he'd go into.
>That costs tens of thousands of dollars? What the fuck
It was a series of seminars, correspondence courses, and online coursework which studied real estate, business management, entrepreneurship, investments etc. Like everything else, the deeper you got the "more valuable" the information. So if you're taking a seminar at Trump Hotel Las Vegas, yeah it could cost you $35k.
>>75794505
>How many Americans did we lose from Trump's "failures" compared to Hillary's?
Probably more than Hillary's actually. Big projects like he does has loss of life factored into the bid.
>>75781395
oops, they left out the murders and sexual assaults when talking about the clintons
also they forgot to mention a certain someone helping destabilize syria for her billionaire overlords
>>75795399
How does that work? Do they get you to sign up while you're there, high on the atmosphere?
>>75780141
Schnackenberg
>>75795067
It would be obviously Hillary because she has proven to be pro-war while Trump is more of an isolationist. He wants to wall up, ffs.
>>75799296
That's it. They create an atmosphere where they try to make you believe if you walk you'll regret it forever and never have the chance to do it again. On the other hand, they make sure they have an answer for every single objection you have. And if it's a money issue, there's ways around it. They grab you logically, emotionally, and create a full sensory enveloping environment. The only way you're getting away is just to nope the fuck out.
I hope Hillary brings this up at the first debate and trump can deal with it swiftfully and humbly. It's their only ammunition and given Trump's reputation I think he could easily dismiss it if he was being earnest. See also:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/144105138301/the-apology-gambit
>>75780141
>Mr.Schnackenberg
>berg
EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. Just one time, I want it to not be a Jew
