I am a British Jew. I'm proud to be British, I'm also proud to be Jewish.
I don't understand where /pol/ gets its view of jews from, but from my personal experience, ordinary Jews are probably more red-pilled than the average populace here in Britain.
My mother and father are both voting Brexit, I also strongly support it. My family in America, all Jewish as well, all supporting Trump, my grandfather especially. My school is pretty left-wing, the Jews are more right-wing on average, especially a few.
What I know is that we are afraid. When Islam takes over, we'll suffer first and the worst. I love Britain, I don't want to move to Israel or America, but i might have to. I just wonder why /pol/ thinks we are perpetrating the Islamic takeover, when we will suffer the most.
Why don't you just stop being jewish?
>>75760254
I don't think you can source your claim that Jews are more right wing.
Broadly, Jews have felt like outsiders, as a result they have little commitment to western civilisation outside of Israel. Jews also have high verbal intelligence. These factors combine to make them sometimes very powerful advocates against the core of western civilisation.
Jews as a whole are not bad. The trick will be to align the interests of Israel and Jews with that of western civilisation, then we can be on the same side.
>>75760778
Pretty accurate. Looking at IQ, Jews are to white people what white people are to niggers. It's always amusing to see /pol/ post pictures about how the media and government is all run by Jews, when that's just meritocracy at work. It's why there are so few niggers in those positions, or at least were before white liberals decided to hate themselves and support affirmative action.
>>75760778
The right-wing, mean more so from personal experience.
The interests of Israel and western civilization are already aligned. It's globalist Jews, who are often actually anti-Israel, that are the problem
>>75760254
Whats your opinion on importing mostly 20-35 year old islamic jew hating muslims?
>>75761420
A threat to western civilisation if there is no pressure for them to assimilate. I read a very interesting book called 'Submission', by Michael Houellebecq, which depicted an Islamic party taking over france.
They also have a free pass from SJWs to be as antisemitic as they want, because in their ladder of 'oppression', Jews are only one rung up above white people, whilst they are pretty high up.
Do you own any gold?
Okay, OP.
I'm legally obligated to hold no personal opinions on Jews OR Muslims. My opinion is just an extension of the government's.
You understand.
That said though, I back Israel but at the same time I resent the expectation of Israelis that the west must look after it.
>>75762145
My dad used, but he sold it. We now have our money in dollar.
Is the 6 gorillion figure widely believed in the Jewish community? Or is there an age-related thing where the younger generation are more questioning?
Sorry if this sounds shitty. I'm genuinely interested in knowing.
>>75762194
I completely agree with you, our governments attack on free speech is alarming. I don't believe that expressing antisemitism, if there is no immediate danger that is likely to be caused, should be illegal.
I don't think the Israelis think that west should look after it. I think more than anything is that they want us to back them diplomatically; which I think we should do, in fighting against all of the absurd UN condemnations. Though I do agree that Israel no longer needs military funding from the US, their military is strong now.
>>75760254
In the U.S., Jews are very prominent members of leftist organizations in universities, in 'think tanks' and policy lobby organizations, in social sciences and humanities in the academe, and in the liberal media (both print and video). They tend to be very outspoken, favor leadership roles in these causes, and are often extremely nepotistic in terms of favoring other Jews for positions of power and influence and for social association in general. The women work in media and the men work in finance and policy and business.
The overall impression is that a tiny ethnic group is attempting to monopolize the loci of social and economic power and control in society -- while propagating ideas that discourage people from noticing ethnicity and cause them to worry more about the worse demographics nearby (e.g. flooding neighborhoods with violent criminal blacks) so as to direct less effort to the Jews helping each other take over everything. This is infuriating.
To be fair, not all Jews are so thoroughly nepotistic. I work in finance, and many of my friends and colleagues are Jewish. I would say about half fall into the pattern described above. The litmus test, for me, is whether they preferentially work with and recruit other Jews.
>>75760254
What do you think of the Labour party? Who did you vote for in the last elections?
Where do you think Israel is headed under Netanyahu? Both Palestinian women and Haredis are having 5 kids each there, will there be another intifida?
>>75762692
Yeah pretty much, the evidence does show that 6 mill were killed. I do think however, that the murders of gypsies, homosexuals, and the mentally ill, should not be overlooked when remembering the holocaust.
>>75762692
Why would they ever question something that benefits them?
>>75760254
fuck off, Milo
>>75760254
It's because your grandparents/parents were the ones who got out of Israel without going to work in a jewish company. Jews want Israel to become conservative and all the rest of the world to be pro feminism, immigrantion and all that shit. The thing is, they alienate most of their own population on this plan, so jews in Israel are conservatives (mostly)without knowing of this plan and diaspora jews usually go out for working in banks or news so they are advised to make liberal propaganda. That's why we hate the jews. If we hated a race simply for being leftist we would hate whites too.
>>75762807
Underrated post
>>75762841
I'm unfortunately not old enough to vote, but it would have been conservatives.
But fuck labour, fuck socialism in general. Also, they overlook antisemitism to appease the muslim vote.
Israel's path, I don't think is defined by Netanyahu, but more so by the growing global vendetta against Israel (BDS, JVP etc.). It's not looking good from my perspective, although Israel's neighbours are ironically becoming less holistic (whilst the west becomes more holistic), they're ties with Jordan and the UAE are improving slowely.
They're probably will be another intifada, nothing Israel can't handle. But it will just result in condemnation, when Israel kills terrorists, and everything screams 'muh occupation', 'muh apartheid state'.
>>75762807
I suppose you definitely have a point. However, remember that many of these liberal jews are against Israel
>>75760254
Obviously not every jew is in on some massive conspiracy to control the world. But the people with the most power over the media and international finance are all Jewish. You're average jew on the street may as well be goy for all they care. Sabotaging Europe is part of their plan because they want you to move to Isreal and they want us to fight wars on behalf of Israel. But isn't this all obvious?
>>75763090
My grandparents never came from Israel.
Jews work in banks, because they acquired the skills from practice Usury for centuries, because they were not able to own property.
>>75760254
Well, it just so happens that almost every person pushing shit to destabilize and destroy the nations of the west are Jews.
If you claim to be a moderate Jew, and you say most Jews are moderates, then you have to condemn the ones that advocate, argue, and work to destroy the west. Because if the west goes, Israel will certainly be going.
>>75760254
My girlfriend of 5 years is actually half Jewish (her father's side. he's actually rather conservative actually, works as a chemical engineer I believe)
They're great people.
But that doesn't prevent me from observing that in my country they hold a disproportionate amount of power in media, finance, and politics, and that they often use this power to erode national sovereignty and further a Marxist agenda.
So the way I see it, Jews don't pull every string but they do pull a good number of them. And I know that your average Shlomo isn't Soros.
>>75763416
cite >>75761078
We are over represented in these positions of power, but not without reason, and more importantly we don't unilaterally make them up.
The sabotaging Europe point you make would hold validity, if these same jews weren't the ones most opposed to the existence of Israel. Jewish voices for peace etc.
>>75763340
Yes, I have noticed. Though not all. Personally, I think Israel benefits the U.S. much more than neighboring countries do. Israel has made great contributions to computer technology, mathematics, biomedical research, military technology, and a variety of other important fields. It also occasionally collaborates with U.S. intelligence agencies for shared goals. Its neighbors in the region have done almost none of this. I am generally pro-Israel. As with any matter of international relations, there are questions of costs, but on balance we do benefit from having good relations with the Israelis. From a more general standpoint, I admire their toughness and ingenuity as a country -- I feel similarly about Singapore, though Israel has had an even more difficult past.
as you're a Brit how do you view the expulsion of the Jews from Britian, and Cromwell as he was one of the first to let them back in
And when did your family move over
>>75763562
Exactly, I do condemn them. I do realise that Israel needs the west to not succumb to the hoards of Jihad.
But not every person pushing this is Jewish. Chancellor murkel isn't for one.
>>75763244
Stop posting this stuff, it makes me want to side with Muslims when I really just want to exterminate you both.
>>75763774
You don't have a clue which jews I'm talking about. Jewish voices for peace? Yeah, no. Not even close. Do your research homie.
>>75763774
The question is how much originates from intellect versus how much originates from in-group preferences/nepotism. I do not resent people who are merely talented. But I do speak ill of nepotists and their beneficiaries.
>>75763914
I view the expulsion of Jews as a dark part of the British past.
My family moved over five generations back, as penniless Lithuanian potato farmers. My great-great-great grandfather was also very fortunate, not work for some noble in the north (I forgot the exact one), who was very kind to his Jewish heritage: he was payed well, and allowed to take time off for Jewish holidays.
>penniless Lithuanian potato farmers
Yeah, you're a fucking liar. Jews don't do hard labor.
>>75764078
If I'm misinformed, then inform me. Show me Jews, who are propagating multiculturalism in the West, but support the homogeny of Israel.
>>75764252
Have you watched documentaries on tsarist Russia
>>75764252
We don't have to anymore, but we did, when times were much worse for our people. My family stayed in Sunderland because that's where poor jews stayed, while the richer ones ones moved to the richer, bigger northern cites.
>>75764170
Did any of your ancestors get conscripted in either the first or Second World War
>>75764316
Follow the money.
>>75763929
I'm not so sure about that, firth column m8
>>75764127
If many Jews are there because of nepotism, than I, too, unilaterally condemn it. But also finance will certainly be over represented, because Jews practiced usury for a long time, because we weren't allowed to own property.
>>75764393
I'm not sure, but I would think so. I know that my grandparents were too young. However my grandmother's family did take in a refugee from the nazis, who unfortunately died from being ran over.
>>75763929
But that's not the point, the modern suicidal left is led by Jews and Jewish propagadated theories on how the west and whites should destroy themselves through multiculturalism. I mean, almost every major advocate and pusher for this shit is Jewish or taught by Jews to hate themselves and love their enemies.
Moderate Jews should join nationalists in calling then out and admitting that there is a radical element in Judaism itself that likes cucking and destroying nations.
And call out the porn and pop culture pushers for their race mixing agenda.
>>75762717
>I don't think the Israelis think that west should look after it. I think more than anything is that they want us to back them diplomatically; which I think we should do, in fighting against all of the absurd UN condemnations.
That is literally the opposite of what I said. I said;
>That said though, I back Israel but at the same time I resent the expectation of Israelis that the west must look after it.
And you have turned it into tacit support diplomatically, not militarily. They are essentially the same thing.
You really ARE a sneaky bunch
>>75764316
They exist. I have worked with a number of them. In the media, though, it's usually more by omission than affirmation.
British Jew? News flash you're either a Brit or a Jew decide.
>>75764799
But which Jews in particular.
Something that irks me a little. Why do Jews feel entitled to just be accepted and live anywhere they like?
>>75760254
will you suffer the most because you are homo?
You might be a JEWISH conservative but to try to use that to relate to folks in /pol/ I mean you're not a real conservative we have very different values than Jews
>>75764909
Most Jewish journalists write articles arguing for the cuck agenda, most Jewish professors argue and propagandize the cuck agenda. It's not a coincidence when 9 times out of 10, a person promoting race mixing, open borders immigration, and all kinds of fucked up suicidal positions are Jews.
>>75764909
Secular jews mostly
>>75764881
I don't consider an expectation. More like a desire to be treated like other countries. Britain, France, Germany are not repeatedly condemned by the UN, and called an Apartheid state, Israel shouldn't be.
The west and Israel are allies, they want some support. In return Israel has helped push forward technological and medical progress. Also their 'roof-knocking' tactic is being considered by the US military, for their airstrikes in Syria.
>>75764957
Because we mostly assimilate. We don't rape your women. We don't scrounge of benefits.
Those who don't assimilate well, will mostly stay in their confines, and not demand to have their lifestyle upheld, whilst they rape your women.
>>75760254
>It's a Jew makes a pity thread thread
So what is it that you're hinting at, the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
>Jews force Europe to take in Muslims
>Jews cry that Muslims will attack them first
>"Come on goys, we're all in this together right?"
It's the exact same tactic every time. Fuck off and take your woe is me attitude with you.
>>75765274
Give it two years. The UN will condemn how the European countries fail to assimilate all the non-European immigrants and that having them line in ghetto cities is unjust and inhumane and call them de facto apartheid states.
>>75765152
I'm more so asking for particularly prominent, specific figures in the media, who hold this agenda.
>>75765441
But you brainwash the fuck out of us m8 :^)))))
Can you like... stop
>>75765497
And if you stand with Israel now, Israel will stand with you.
>>75765592
evidence?
>>75764799
Weevil?
>>75760254
I think people mistrust Jews because of dicks like Barbara Lerner Spectre, Martin Schultz, Jesse Benn, all those arseholes who do promote the end of white Europe and invent these ideas like "white privilege." I don't have a problem with Jews, as you say many are redpilled, but their voices are just not heard above the 'Jews for Refugee' types.
>>75765576
Zuckerberg for one, and the jewish founded corporation of Google (which owns Youtube) want to ban free speech in Europe as "hate" speech
The ban is supposed to enter into effect around tomorrow
>>75765441
Yeah, but you brainwash the population through the media, government, finance and education, making them submissive, debt slaves. This is something even worse since most people are at best apathetic to the Muslim invasion. Jewish propaganda has made white nationalism and patriotism "bad"
>>75760254
>thinks xenophobic cuckservative means redpilled
pure cancer
>>75765692
It's mostly correlation. The grand media conglomerates that are currently pushing for the destruction of the West are founded, owned and/or chaired by jews
>>75760254
Shill detected. And if your serious, you're nuts. America has lots of jews in politics and they are almost entirely liberal democrats. Those are the progressive leftists who want to destroy everything that makes america great. And they do it with a smile on their face. That's why we hate them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians
>>75765827
Most jews arent shitty people. The little deli owner couple surly isnt trying to end any race. Its just some really high ups are jewish, and assholes.
>>75765638
>stand with Israel now
What the fuck are you talking about? You're a fucking shill kike. We're literally having Americans fight and die for you and we send you billions and billions if dollars in aid. How the fuck are we not standing with Israel and how does that have any effect on how you will try to call out your fellow Jews for the nation wreckers they are?
>support us or die
How about we expel all non-white, non-Christian people out of Europe and glass the Middle East from Turkey to Egypt and to Iran. Problem solved.
>>75765866
Zuckerberg is an interesting one to choose, because he, specifically is certainly anti-Israeli. I'll try to find a video, which demonstrates that two facebook pages, both inciting (with each post being mirrored), but one bing extreme zionist, and the other extreme palestinian, and the zionist one gets removed, but not he palestinian one.
>>75766265
America supports us, less so under Obama. But many European countries don't.
I'm not issuing a threat. I believe Israel will support western countries in the future, but less likely so, if they don't support Israel.
>>75766340
Dude what difference does it make? I know leftist jews are against Israel..
>>75766023
That is true, the media does have this goal, and we are prevalent in the media. But I don't believe that Jews in the media are pushing this, anymore than non-Jews in the media are.
>>75766497
We don't need Israel's support, they need us. Us supporting Israel led us to this mess. The Middle East hates us, and the Jews pushing for the west's destruction hate us. Why should we even care about you? We should protect ourselves and expel all Muslims, Jews, and non-whites out of America and Europe. You're more harm than good.
>>75766573
And yet no Jews call them out on it and let them continue to propagate self-hate through the media and universities. That's all you need to change public opinion.
>>75766573
/pol believes that Jews are pushing for the destruction of western civilisation so that more Jews emigrate to Israel. If said Jews don't support Israel themselves, then this argument is a logical fallacy
>>75766704
You do tend to have more power in the industries you found
>>75760254
How long will it be before the religion of peace shoots up a synagogue here do you think?
>>75760254
>>75761078
>iamverysmart
go away kike new world order nigger
>>75766781
>We don't need Israel's support
Israel is a loyal ally, and has a powerful military. And also Israeli developments in medicine and technology have been phenomenal.
>And yet no Jews call them out on it
Pro-Israel pages do, StandWithUs for example, they're, admittedly, more focused on how this affects Israel, but it's a common enemy.
>>75766922
Too soon, I am very afraid.
>>75766824
Well it's demonstrable that jewish elites want to dismantle Western countries
Whether or not they're sincere in their occasional barrage against Israel remains to be seen
It's not even that relevant. What matters is that those persons be forbidden from attacking Western countries so viciously
>>75767102
I agree that these elites are disgusting.
But my focus on their lack of support for Israel, is that this not a Jewish movement. It is a more secular movement, that just so happens to have many Jews involved.
>>75766922
I don't think that would even happen. Jews are Semitic, Muslims are Semitic, they're basically the same people trying to control the west. We should just expel them all. They are parasitic leeches that should be squashed.
>>75767034
We can sacrifice the delays in research development in exchange for having our own countries homogenous and safe again.
You benefit from this exchange way more than we do, if we do at all. America funded all of your precious research and development.
>>75767034
Everything Israel's military has short of the tavor (which is a horrible rifle) was given to them by america. And i don't use the "Given" word loosely. Not only did they not pay for any of this, we gave them "Aid" on top of it. Much like we do with the rest of the shit hole world. Placate the weak so they don't revolt and pull a dindu and gibsmedat all over.
>>75767289
>that just so happens to have many Jews involved.
We can't just sweep that under the rug. When the elites are attacked they'll cower under the guise of anti-semitic persecution
We need to deconstruct the idea that jews (be they elites or otherwise) are objectively identical, as a group, to the nations in which they reside
>>75767302
Muslims hate us even more than the West, we are literally their worst enemy.
I argue that the media Jews, propagating multi, are separate from Israel's interests. Also Israel has a huge muslim population, but is not cucked (except for temple mount), so they can teach us on how to deal with multiculturalism.
>>75767325
Israel is terrible.
It only exists in it's current form because of white guilt over the holocaust and Jewish terrorism.
Non-Israeli Jews should stay well away from anything connected to Israel. The place is cursed.
>>75767723
>so they can teach us on how to deal with multiculturalism.
You mean multi-ethnicism
Israel has one culture
>>75767723
>Muslims hate Jews
And yet you can live together in peace today and in the past. Why do the Jews even belong in the west? You should go to your new homeland and stay there.
All Jews, Muslims, and non-whites should be expelled for the integrity as safety of our countries. There is no argument against this.
>>75767522
Very true. In fact in my opinion, antisemitism is much more prevalent on the left than the right. And, as this becomes more widely known, when those with right-wing views attack said elites, the guise of antisemitism will be less effective.
>>75767876
That's true.
But the point is Israel has been very effective in assimilating muslims, bedouins volunteer hugely for the IDF. If only our muslim migrants acted so.
>>75767897
Muslims do hate Jews, there are only 5 thousand living in arab countries now, when they're used to be over a million.
>>75767898
It's strange with the European left, my m8
They engage in a thing called double-think. So they strongly hate both Zionism and Anti-Semitism
If they see the right-wing attack jewish elites, they'll react the same regardless of what they feel about Israel
>>75768062
Don't you know it's racist to assimilate different peoples here? Here 9/10 it's us who have to conform to everyone else
As we are, we can't learn from Israel even if we tried
>>75767775
It's the only currently civilised place in the Middle East.
Zionism was enacted, within the British mandate of Palestine, from WW1 onwards.
The Holocaust showed that a Jewish state was needed, because antisemitism in mostly Eastern European countries was prevalent. They were all too willing to hand over Jews to the Nazis.
The allies knew about the death camps but did nothing, because there were tactically more important places to bomb. If a strong Jewish state existed, then the camps would have been destroyed. And more Jews would have been able to leave Europe, in the early to mid 1930s, and therefore not be killed in the early 1940s.
>>75760254
>My family in America, all Jewish as well, all supporting Trump,
Sounds like you're a bunch of crazy assholes.
t. American Jew
>>75768402
Dave Milliband is irrelevant in British politics, the others, I haven't even heard of, so also irrelevant.
The Swedes and Eurocrats, ALL of them are pushing this, so not a Jewish thing.
America, you forget Obama, who's not Jewish, and propogating this. Same with Germany and Murkel, much more important than any of these Jews.
The last few countries have two or less Jews, so we're not a hugely influencing factor.
Soros I'll give you.
France I'll give you, but only because I don't know a lot about french politics.
>>75760254
While Jews are right wing in their nature, Aka being ultra ethnicity, Racist and Strive to be superior to everyone else, They also employ leftism strategically to help their main goal, Leftism for the goys and Right nationalism for only "us jews".
It's really easy to understand.
>>75767325
Eh, not really. Certainly Israel can't develop large weapon systems on its own, but it has a thriving defense industry with expertise in things like avionics.
Also the US has only been an Israeli ally since after the 6 day war. Before that they were fighting with French leftovers. Based Pepe.
>>75767102
>>Well it's demonstrable that jewish elites want to dismantle Western countries
"demonstrable" if you're schizophrenic.
>>75764022
Great. That's a very constructive way of thinking.
>>75768371
I feel you. I have a couple of muslim friends, who are completely westernised and great people, one of whom does practice moderately. If only more were like them, then there would be no problem; unfortunately they're the minority.
>>75769253
One extremist does not represent us all.
More importantly, what is our goal? Because I know that left-wing jews are right-wing jews have very opposing ideologies.
>>75760254
Take a hike kike.
>>75768515
classy
>>75769278
>"demonstrable" if you're schizophrenic.
No, you
>>75760254
I hate zionists, the Rothschild/Rockefeller mafia, commies and cultural marxists. Most of them are jews.
I'm ok with normal jews, I even have some jewish friends.
Would you use the term "Oy vey" often?
>>75769424
If only Muslims would leave and we were more Christian again
>One can dream
>>75769752
I think you'll find most jews are zionists. If you take the original definition in establishing a Jewish state. If you believe Israel should exist, even if you hate it in every other way, that's zionism.
The Rotshschild/Rochefeller mafia is sensationalised, but valid to an extent.
commies and cultural marxists are not Zionist, in any way.
Why are Jews trying to wipe out white people?
Do they not realize that if whites disappear they will be a few million non-darkies vs billions of browns?
>>75769759
Definitely.
I also enjoy rubbing my hands together, and sniffing gold in my free time.
>>75769622
Well any right wing thinker could come up with many goals, But literally any goal that achieves total domination over the non-jews is pretty precises. Who cares about us goys, As long as jews are in power, It's all good. Right?
White nationalism is literally jewish nationalism, But instead they admit it openly and don't instill leftism (communism, Cultural marxism etc etc) on their opponents.
>>75770154
I do realise that, and so I do all other jews that I know. Which is why most Jews certainly do not support white genocide.
We're not stupid, whatever else we are, we're not that. White genocide would lead to jewish genocide.
>>75761078
>meritocracy
How delusional are you? Jews are overrepresented because once a Jew is put in a position of power, he will hire almost exclusively other Jews. That's how they have so much wealth.
Even the international bankers only got their money through usury and theft. The vast majority of Jews did not get their positions through meritocratic means.
>>75770294
Oy vey!
>>75770539
Oy vey!
>>75770419
It's simple logic. The instillation of leftism gives rise to Islam. Islam then attacks Jews. Therefore I, as do most other Jews, realise that we do need western civilisation.
If I wanted total domination, you better well realise that I wouldn't encourage the growth of an ideology that wants me dead.
>>75770465
Usury has created the modern economy, and given a tremendous rise in prosperity. Although right now, the financial industry is less helpful towards businesses now, it has been an overall help to humanity. Before the introduction of credit, in the 1500s, the world was a shithole.
>>75770294
Oy vey!
>>75771269
The modern economy where it's almost impossible to buy a house and raise a family on a blue-collar worker's salary?
>>75762980
>Begin questioning
>Suddenly, the number shoots up to 12 million
I don't know
>>75762846
>the evidence does show that 6 mill were killed
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
