Here in New Zealand I am surrounded by leftist cucks who hate this man. When I try to defend him, nearly every time they bring up "but he will say/do the wrong thing and cause WW3!!". How do I persuade them that in fact the opposite will happen?
Can you explain to me exactly how this man will bring world peace?
>>75732158
I have been through this as well i had one other person who agreed with me and they all shut the fuck up when we started backing up each others points.
In short they follow the herd.
>>75732158
if you haven't noticed WW3 is already happening in the middle east
>>75732158
Putin says such shit all the time but the worst thing ever happened to Russia is poverty
>>75732158
Tell them he's nominated for a nobel Peace prize
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-218695
Fuck yes, New Zealand is leftist hell. Always has been, really. #bringbackmuldoon2k16
>>75732158
You can't. Every time I bring it up people just spout retarded shit and try change the topic.
Was pissing me off when the rock was spouting anti trump shit every hour but I think they had a literal reddit segment the other day so I guess it's time to drop them anyway.
>>75734755
>You will never listen to the Greenman play non stop music instead of talking non stop shit for hours on end.
feels bad man
>>75732158
You're going about it all wrong, don't defend him because that implies guilt.
Go with the media are liars angle, don't even bring trump into it, if they try to make it about him divert the conversation back to the media being against the people, god knows there's enough videos of them being caught red handed.
When people start to question what they know the inevitable result is redpill, this is what being subversive is all about.
Here's one of my favourites to get you started.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs0szG7fUYk
>>75734593
>bring back the guy who utterly fucked us over in the first place and sold our country to the jews
Totally feel you guys I have the same experience. I am surrounded by leftist whores who hate Trump just because it's fashionable, they have no idea what any of his polices and beliefs are. It's just RACIST SEXIST FASCIST
No point trying to reason with them, I just laugh at them and call them stupid (which they are)
Slight diversion: Kiwi women are the most frigid and ugly white women in the world.
Alcohol is mandatory to get that pussy wet.
>>75736465
oh shit the cruz window in the right corner
You tell them he is isolationist who wants to in fact pull out troops from countries murika is wasting money in or allies arent paying for defense.
>>75736717
They're the same people that hate john key because it's fashionable, I'm so happy that the only people who vote left are cucked whites and students.
>>75732533
Do you not know what the WW stands for you fat inbred redneck?
>>75734593
Please don't say this. I'm planning on moving to NZ if Labor wins the next election.
>>75736991
You mean Grebour. Labour and the Greens have officially formed an alliance, just in case there was any doubt that Labour has completed it's move to the loony left. It's one of the reasons Labour has struggled in the polls ever since Clark moved to NY
>>75736991
Labour has no hope at the moment. They have no direction and way to much in fighting.
National are cucks but at least they aren't complete retards
>>75736991
cunt i swear the differences between malfinkel turnstein and bill shortenstein are superficial, countries fucked either way. Dont expect little oz to be any less cucked.
>>75737154
>>75737168
I meant Australian Labor, silly billies.
>>75736991
New zealand has voted right wing for 9 years straight and that's not going to change because labour immigration policies backfired on them because all the rich immigrants exclusively vote right wing.
New zealand is possibly the only country in the world where anti immigration sentiment is running though the left and that's hilarious.
>>75737200
Oh sorry
>>75732158
Hes the ghandi not only of white people but of all free people in that he is a symbol of freedom of speech cause he says whatever the fuck he wants to say
I know you're here Mr Bowden
>>75732158
Here's what I do?
>What has he said that was racist?
>He has an isolationist foreign policy. Isn't that what we've always wanted from America?
>>75737210
>National
>right wing
>>75732158
I was at a party the other day and everyone was bashing him. I tied to stand up but the sheer numbers where overwhelming, fucking liberal bernie cucks
>>75732158
convincing people is useless, you'll just have to wait for enough people to start agreeing with you naturally and then work with them to silence the remaining leftists.
>>75737322
Lol are you stupid? Lefties don't give a fuck about logic, you need to subvert their emotions.
I'm doing pretty well here in Dunedin, its a shitty lefty shit-hole. But because people are so misinformed they simply just do the standard
>Hes racist, Mexicans
And then you do the ol - one racist thing hes said
>The Wall & illegal immigrants
Point out they're illegal, point out shit about borders, then bring up how Mexico has a wall on its southern border.
>Muslims
Get very passionate about terrorist attacks, put heavy emphasis on 'the majority are fine, but the MINORITY are the issue. it took 13 muslim extremists to kill 3000 people on 9/11, it took 8 muslim extremists to kill 136 people in France and injure ____ others, it took ____ for the Boston Marathon, it took 2 in San Berandio (or whatever the fuck it is) to kill 13. Its not the majority thats the issue, its the minority. Would you be comfortable putting your hand in a pit of snakes, where you don't know which ones are venomous?
>WWIII
Point out hes very against conflict. How once he deals to ISIS he wants to pull out and focus solely on America, let European Union lead the world for some time. Let Murica go on break. Point out how hes already got a good thing going with Putin
>Faggots and Trannys
Point out how he really doesn't care about such minor issues and thinks the individual states can decide. Let Caitlyn Jenner chose the female bathroom. Thinks theres bigger things to worry about.
>Trump is Hitler
Either draw comparisons to Bernie & Hitler or point out how the Jew stars and identifying Muslim thing was an isolated incident talking about jihadists slipping into Canada as refugees and not being marked or whatever it was.
>Sexist
Name a sexist thing he said. Calling Megyn Keller a bitch and implying shes on her period is not sexist, its a personalized insult to a person. It in no way shape or form represents his feelings of all females. Its like when he talks all the shit about male candidates, doesn't mean he hates all males.
I've converted a few to Trump so far. BTFO others.
>>75737168
>National are cucks but at least they aren't complete retards
Yeah, they are.
>>75737210
Only anti-chinese immigration, they want Syrians like any other cuck
>>75737210
fuck thats true, never thought of that, it was Labour bringing up stuff about the last names of people buying homes in auckland, and yeah, every lawn in Onehunga has national/act billboards in it come election time
>>75737389
about the wall thing inform them that israel has a wall, google that shit
>>75737389
Getting the iconic red MAGA hat soon from my step-dad in America. Sure that'll stir up plenty of shit, and I'll probably get assaulted again.
>>75732158
Teach them the basics of trump the media hates him the democrates hate him the republicans hate him other foriegn leaders hate him how can you not like the guy if they cant understand that they have already taken the blue pill
>>75737184
Yeah, I know. But at least the Coalition doesn't have policies like these:
>http://www.100positivepolicies.org.au/advancing_australian_multiculturalism
>http://www.100positivepolicies.org.au/immigration_increasing_the_humanitarian_intake
>http://www.100positivepolicies.org.au/republic_timeline
>http://www.100positivepolicies.org.au/protecting_overseas_aid_projects
>http://www.100positivepolicies.org.au/fighting_discrimination_against_lgbti_australians
Also i want all my Nz brothers to realise that the french have been the only terrorists to terrorize our country
Fuck the French
So how are you guys voting next election? It's my first time next year and I'm tossing up between conservative and act.
I've meet one black Trump supporter from Florida down here.
>>75737464
Yeah I tend to bring up the Israel wall as well as the Guatemala wall.
>>75737343
>smaller gov
>removing our debt with responsible budgets
>freedom of speech
>working towards lower taxes and less government dependance
>not right wing
Reminder that politics is a spectrum and centre right is still right.
>>75737390
No greens are complete retards, by comparison national are just shit
>>75732158
Not a hard task. Which nominee spoken out for less intervention in middle east, is on good terms with Russia and wants to focus on his own country rather than push forward globalisation? Pro tip, it isn't Shillary.
>>75737633
If you look at world politics they are moderate/slightly left is what I think they're pointing out
I hope to move out of New Zealand eventually and go live in America. America has problems, but at least they still have freedom of speech over there, unlike New Zealand where I can go to prison for insulting someone on the internet.
>>75737390
Winnie is a traitor that would cut a deal with the commie faggots on the left in a heartbeat, a vote for Winston is a vote for the greens
>>75737607
NZ First.
Why on earth would you vote anyone else?
>>75737771
>Winnie is a traitor that would cut a deal with the commie faggots on the left in a heartbeat
t. millenial who knows nothing about Winston.
Look at what he did to Jenny Shipley and Helen Clark when he was in their governments.
>>75732158
"Saying the wrong thing" doesn´t cause world wars, electing warmongers like Hillary with no regards for the life of servicemen starts wars and escalates tensions.
>>75734593
Think Big literally changed our country for the better. The following governments then fucked it up and sold all those assests.
>>75737755
>unlike New Zealand where I can go to prison for insulting someone on the internet.
W-what? I was searching for your laws regarding this the other day and found nothing, unlike Cuckstralia which has a 3 year maximum for offending someone over the Internet.
>>75737889
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2013/0168/latest/whole.html
>>75737551
What did the French do to nz?
a lot of the people here who are anti-trump are social sciences goony beard men. no one else cares - she'll be right, cricket's on, yeah nah, etc.
just bait them into referencing what the MSM says about trump this week, then smug them out by asking if they had already forgotten what their lecturers said about blindly trusting what the MSM reports as "fact"
I bought a MAGA hat from Trump's site and wear it everywhere i go. The leftist faggots on cuba street, Wellington get triggered as i walk by. None are brave enough to say anything.
>>75738001
Bombed some hippies. Search bombing of the rainbow warrior
>>75737409
All the more reason to tell them to go neck themselves. I used to have an unironically Marxist flatmate who was ranting about how we needed to take more refugees and I told him he was stupid because there's no way of knowing who those people are, 1 month later Paris happened. Reality is the biggest redpill.
>>75737462
The maoris are also anti immigrant as fuck so all the ones not living off winz also vote right wing.
The only people who vote left now are the cucks or the uninformed.
>>75732158
>Can you explain to me exactly how this man will bring world peace?
Easy, everything he has said is to min office. His actual politics will be like another democrat.
>>75738072
Good on ya anon. I'm getting mine soon, I'm just worried some cunt will just come and try steal it when walking to lectures.
>>75732158
Attacking Trump is the perfect way for a weak white person to signal to others how non-racist, non-sexist, tolerant, and virtuous he/she is. This is why they attack him, not because of anything to do with his policies or any logical reason. Therefore, defending his policies or using logic will have no effect on them. You have to call them out for their virtue signalling and weakness. That will usually shut them up.
>>75732533
Exactly it started in Syria in 2011 as i said then it will only expand, it has, it has sparked crises in Europe, got Russia and America involved, spread to Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey, now proxy conflict have sprung up in Yemen related to it.
NO SIGNS OF IT STOPPING
>>75732158
Ask them if they think that Trump will be the one to start WW3, or if someone else will in a reaction to Trump.
If they say that Trump will, ask for proof. If they say somebody else will as a reaction, say that if a nation elects such a leader that mere words will cause them to launch WW3, that isn't Trump's fault, and no blame should be placed on him.
>>75737607
Anyone on the right except nz first is fine, Winston is a traitor that will ally with the greens at the first oppurtunity.
Reminder that the ONLY thing that matters is blocking labour and the greens, if they take control they will crash this country with no survivors.
>>75732158
Tell them to quit being faggots that let fear rule them.
People that like then are why we need ww3. We need to cull the weak.
Just leaving this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeJ-iv3MOTo
>>75737343
>This
>Stupid
Kek 9gag
>>75737971
>19(3)(A) in the case of a natural person, imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or a fine not exceeding $50,000
Well, that's the penalty for causing someone harm, which is defined as "serious emotional distress" in the bill.
It turns out you guys are just as bad as us kek
>>75738129
I remember that, I thought no new Zealanders were hurt? Honestly didn't seem like a big deal
I can not watch any news magazine programs here when they start talking trump. Its wall to wall hatred of the guy. But then nz media has always been so left wing, thats why paul henry gets so much hate. For instance tv3 the story, couple weeks back they had a horror head uggo almost crying about how bad he is. Whether he is or not at least put up a valid argument not bullshit untruths about 'hating Muslims' or 'deporting all mexicans'
True story:
I ran into an old school friend downtown couple weeks ago.
Me ' wow so good to see you'
She ' anon, hey we need to catch up, I want you to meet my boyfriend he's so awesome'
Me: 'cool, I hope he's a great guy. I always thought of you as my sister so I wanna know you're being treated good'
Her: ' what did you think I'd go out with an arsehole. He's not ex-isis, and he certainly ain't Donald trump'
Me: ?????
>>75738291
lmfao Winston is the reason why the left are dead in this country. Dead as in no fucking chance in hell, all national have to do is close the gates to Chang and his billion mates, tell the Maoris to fuck off and they have Winstons support.
Now lets see how smart that klke in power really is.
>>75738446
IIRC it was because dumb Maori kids were killing themselves because they were getting harassed with text messages and later on Facebook because they were too fucking stupid to just hit the block button.
>>75738609
Why do retarded natives have to ruin everything?
>>75736831
I have family friends there and am considering either going there for grad school or maybe applying for teaching positions with my masters.
Redpill me on maoriland pls
>>75738684
I'm sure they were just used as an excuse to get the public to go along with it.
The issue is what happens if lefties get in power and go to town with it like they do in Australia, it's yet another reason to never ever give the commies even an inch.
>>75732158
>How do I persuade them that in fact the opposite will happen?
You can't. Because you're a fucking imbecile without any clue what's going on, surrounded by people with functioning brains who are paying attention. They're laughing at you because you're retarded.
trump is a monumental disaster. The only good thing he's doing is utterly destroying the Republican party.
And about fucking time.
>>75738701
It's quite literally the nicest comfiest place to live on the planet to the point where people leave because it's too boring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
we're pretty high up there when you consider population size and the idea that NZ is peaceful and comfortable.
why are so many NZ men killing themselves
>>75738837
The republican party is stronger than ever.
>>75737889
Shit. I'd be serving at least 18 years for my comments on jew book alone. All I do is try to redpilled morons and cause intellectual thought.
>>75732158
You're surrounded by idiots. Next time just say, " Putin declared if Hillary Clinton was elected president there would be world war 3 and she's the only other candidate so how is she better than Trump?"
Liberals BTFO for eternity and beyond.
>>75736927
JK is a globalist shill and the nose knows.
As an American I'm proud that so many people care about our politics. Thank you guys for supporting whatever you believe in.
>>75737210
John Key has turned the ap for immigration on full bore. It's ruining the country.
>>75738490
The French exploded a bomb on the waterfront of our biggest city. It killed a dude. That's terrorism. They flew in agents who then slipped out of the country before the sun came up the following day. Sure it was a greenpeace vessel (kek) but some would argue that makes it worse being non military. The French, after all we did to help them in ww1 and 2. Imagine a boat blowing up in Circular Key tomorrow, then you find out weeks later it wasn't muzzies, but the British government that authorised it. That's how NZ feels about it.
It was actually under Mitterrand's leftist socialist leadership which makes the whole episode even weirder.
>>75738982
Maoris/islanders/no hopers and the rest are dads whose entire lives were destroyed by the feminist family courts.
>>75732158
Tell him every single one beside him is a typical neoconservative foreign policy hawk
Especially Hillary Clinton
And quote his tweets about Syria, Putin, and NATO
>>75732158
Unless they actually bothered to be interested in American politics, they default to disliking trump. I keep my friends updated on his dank memes, no one else really cares to talk about American political memes.
>>75739260
It's a hell of a lot more interesting than listening to Little rant and rave as he and the rest of them get more and more confused about why the goys aren't voting for them.
>>75738837
>Trump makes multi-million dollar decisions every day, accumulating billions of dollars over his lifetime.
>B-b-but Trump's a buffoon who will say/do the wrong thing and cause WW3. The media told me so.
>These people have functioning brains and are paying attention.
>the irony of this post.
Here, (you) earned this.
where's the best place to keep up with NZ news and politics? anything not massively biased to the left or right?
He's a bit of a target for jokes at my uni, but fuck it rustles me, considering half the shit they say about him is wrong.
I get better grades then them all, so if they're going to be smug and superior about how dumb he is, I can be smug and superior about how wrong they are :^)
Honestly though, not worth it. Cucked country. They're clueless. The thing that really grates me is the "he will start ww3" when he's never directly attacked foreign western leaders - that's been them attacking trump - and he's gotten along with putin so far.
>>75739072
I don't pretend to be a fan of the guy but you're talking about a banker, his entire thing is making the economy better and punching above new zealand weight class.
We're a tiny island with less people total than any typical western city and no military whatsoever and yet we dictate pacific trade agreements and control a majority of the world's dairy supply.
We have virtually no natural resources yet our dollar is almost equal to the American, and most importantly he has a lot of respect from huge countries like china, we could be doing a hell of a lot worse.
>>75739123
Total immigration needs to go way the fuck down but foreigners buying our houses is an obvious scapegoat, and then you have the part where we attract a lot of foreign investment so going too isolationist will hurt that and fuck our economy over.
>>75739536
/r/newzealand
>>75739616
-t Nu-male McCuck.
>>75739613
>his entire thing is making the economy better and punching above new zealand weight class.
Well he's doing horribly at that. He's gotten us 100 billion in debt in 9 years, worse than any other PM, after 8 straight labour surpluses.
>our dollar is almost equal to the American
What? It's not even close to Australia, let alone America.
>and most importantly he has a lot of respect from huge countries like china
China doesn't respect us. They walk all over us and take advantage of us and keep thanking us for the privilege.
Fuck you National Party shills are stupid.
>but foreigners buying our houses is an obvious scapegoat
You're delusional. Try actually going to an auction in Auckland sometime.
>>75739411
God I can't wait for the day when labour get so few votes they don't even make it into parliament.
>>75739536
/pol/, that's all.
I read a variety of news sources to try and piece together a full picture, relying on media is gonna end up with you getting lied to.
>>75739616
r/newzealand is pretty biased to the left, like most of reddit
>>75732158
>Can you explain to me exactly how this man will bring world peace?
Simply by not being Clinton.
Hillary Clinton is corrupt, criminal and manipulator of the worst kind.
Here's a pretty good Summary about the shit she's done.
https://youtu.be/b3oTYYTd1F4
For more you simply need to look what Wikileaks has uncovered about her which is not pretty.
Trump is a saint compared to Clinton.
>>75732158
>How do I persuade them that in fact the opposite will happen?
You are pro Trump, but you don't know why you are for him, you a fucking sublogical human, and you think that you are better than those cuccks?
i am all for trump but i genuinely think this man will cause ww3 lmao. can you imagine him in a diplomatic meeting? kek
I don't think I've ever seen so many NZ flags in one thread.
Lel once at work a co worker of mine was extremely shocked when i called hillary a dumb ass. Nz is one of the most bluepilled places on earth.
>>75739728
This reads like a lefty shill but sure i'll bite.
The global economy was doing amazingly well in the late 90's/early 2000's yet somehow labour still managed to drive our GDP down with their shit policies, when nats came in NZ was already going downhill thanks to labour and then the global financial crisis and christchurch earthquakes hit, if labour was still in charge we would have been fucked, with nats we barely felt it and they've managed to stabilize things to the point where we'll be under 20% debt by 2020
And since you apparently don't know what debt actually is, read this through, then read it again.
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11468289
Our dollar is about 70% of a US dollar, again, this is a country of only 4.6 million people, we are punching way above our weight class.
China do respect us, we are their preferential business partner in the pacific and they are the leading buyer of our dairy products by a huge margin, they respect Key because he's shrewd and knows how to make deals.
Try looking at auckland auction statistics sometime instead of basing all your decisions on feels.
Fucking lefty.
>>75737389
Serious questions if I may.
Hows he going to make Mexico pay for the wall (Leftists argue this point all the time) and How's it possible to prevent muslims from entering the country?
>>75739960
Nzfirst is fairly popular there though
>>75732158
Trump is a god who walks among men. He didn't start this shit, but I get the feeling he will finish it quickly.
People really need to educate themselves. His foreign policies really are quite dovish, especially in comparison with the other Republican candidates. Had Cruz, Bush, or others got the nomination, then you should have worried. They all wanted war with Iran, and to strain relations with Russia. Their policies would have probably caused WW3. Trump really is the best choice. The only countries that hate him are countries who we really need not worry about.
>>75737729
>>75737755
National was literally the party that made that happen
>muh nanny state
>>75740663
Algeria average IQ - 83
http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html
>sublogical human
Eighty-fucking-three
>>75741206
Because the wall is estimated by people to be 10 billion dollars at most, yet mexicans wire many times that amount back to their compadres in mexico, all america has to do is pass a law saying illegal payments are illegal and those funds are all seized by the government.
America also sends mexico a huge cheque of "humanitarian aid" that ends up in the hands of corrupt politicians and drug lords every year so they basically have mexico in a headlock.
You prevent muslims from entering the country by banning travel from middle eastern shitholes like syria or saudi arabia to america, they already did this with iran, its not hard for them to do it to another shithole.
>>75732158
rich white people have ruined nz... they identify themselves with kikes and have a fuck you attitude to the rest of us letting in hordes of immigrants to increase their property values while depressing our wages.
>>75741476
>white people
lol.
The only thing white people ever did was have their heart strings pulled by lefties and carried the rest of the country on their back.
>>75736717
Flip the racist card on them and call them Racist Sexist and Fascist.
1. They are Racist for lumping all WHITE people together as Racist
2. Sexist for Supporting Hillary who pays women .73 on the Dollar compared to men at her own foundation.
3. They are Fascist because they are trying to shut down people from speaking a different opinion
>>75738291
Key and his mates are doing fine at crashing the country. They turned the place into fucking China.
Fuck off back to your shitty house music, Max Key.
>>75741476
Pretty much this.
Sick of all these faggots telling me having 20 fast food shops on every road staffed entirely by foreigners is for my own good.
>>75732158
I don't get why kiwis seem to care about trump/hillary.
Fucking talk about million dollar houses in Auckland or how Jong Key thinks there's no housing (investment profit) problem.
>>75732158
We need WW3.
Everyone keeps poking each other, time to let loose.
>>75741205
>labour still managed to drive our GDP down with their shit policies
holly crap you're delusional. Aunty Helen literally doubled our GDP, after it was struggling to keep up with the rest of the world.
National jew shills keep on blaming Christchurch/ global economy for their shit tier economic growth, yet there wasn't any recession or earthquake before Helen. On top of that, the only economic growth since Helen was from milk prices and Chinese buying our property, since National killed off the manufacturing sector.
Key is massive jew cunt, and retards who are too stupid to see through that vote for it
>>75741718
Following NZ politics is like watching crabs fight in a bucket.
They are all incompetent children apart from Winnie
>>75732158
Okay, so him having a good relationship with EVERY 'enemy' of the USA is a bad thing.
Meanwhile, Hillary is openly hostile to all of them.
>>75741865
Jew key's economic policy is akin to selling off assets that are common to all kiwis past, present and future so that the rich can get their sheckels. Selling assets and housing does not create wealth, it liquifies it.
hes in brothers grimsby and he gets aids enuf said cant wait till hes ur president guys have fun with that
Why even bother? It's not like their opinion matters at all.
>>75732158
Listen here Australian flag.
Trump got the balls and he's an american patriot. You will have to expect a war if Trump actually becomes president, not a huge one like world war scale.. but it will be a large one.
Not a single soul on this planet can create world peace for obvious reasons. The world is fucked and we need a STRONG leader in the most powerful country on earth to keep the world steady.
he recently got aids in the movie brothers grimsby have u seen idiocracy thats what america will look like soon
>>75732158
Hopefully its the end of *Their* world. Zyclon B anyone?
