http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/baby-breastfed-by-vegan-mother-dies/
>Vegan breastfeeding has caused an 11 month old baby to die and the parents are charged with neglect after an autopsy indicated the baby suffered from deficiencies in vitamin B12 and Vitamin A – both known to be critical to a child’s development and sorely lacking in a vegan diet.
>>75702534
>vegans
>not reproducing
This is ok.
>>75702534
if shes vegan im vegan
>>75702534
lol vegans
Vegans are the left wing Christian Scientists.
>>75702534
Vegans should take supplements then.
/thread
Holy shit my sides
>>75702534
if I was a vegans baby I'd probably beg for the sweet release of death so I wouldn't hear her tell me she's a vegan again
>>75702534
JESUS FEED FISH TO PEOPLE... FISH .. MIRACLE FISH .... that's mean ;).
The creator of universe, animals and morality - gave his creation to eat meat - because He knows better.
>>75702534
>Vegans still think humans are not supposed to eat meat
Sounds like bullshit from a bullshit site. Not even clicking the link. Vitamin A can be found in sweet potatoes, in much lager concentration and quality than anywhere else-- you can even get an overdose by eating them. Which is otherwise quite impossible.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/kitten-vegan-diet-nearly-dies_n_3644213.html
>It turns out that a diet of potatoes, rice milk and pasta is bad for pussy.
>A kitten who nearly died after its owners fed it a strict vegan diet was nursed back to health with 20 CCs of meat.
>“It was extremely weak and collapsed when it came in. It was almost non-responsive,” Dr. Leanne Pinfold said.
>>75702827
you'd be dead by 11 months and if you were the offspring of a strict vegan and you lived past that point,you would only be a detriment to society
What I don't get is that abortion doesn't faze leftists but infant neglect does.
Are you shitlords against post-partum abortion?
>>75702534
since when has milk been vegan?
>>75702534
Who would've thought an incredibly stupid smug diet that's impossible to maintain general health without modern supplements was bad for you
>>75702534
>While I’m not sure I favor charging...
opinion detected
>>75703136
>Are you shitlords against post-partum abortion?
what? in the current year CMON!!
>>75703103
No point in trying to argue with a vegan. If you've noticed that they become increasingly more fanatical after adopting a vegan diet, it's no coincidence--a lack of dietary protein, animal fats, and vitamins found in meat impede proper brain development. In the simplest terms, foregoing eating meat makes you stupid.
>The average non-vegetarian stores between 2,000 and 3,000 picograms of B-12 per day.
>B-12 helps change homocysteine into methionine.
>Although many vegan foods are said to have active B-12, few are proving to actually raise B-12 or prevent its loss.
>There are a variety of symptoms of B-12 deficiency, which is a danger for vegans and live fooders.
>The initial symptoms can include low energy, but it can eventually cause permanent nerve damage, depression, numbness and tingling in the hands and feet, nervousness, paranoia, hyperactive reflexes, impaired memory and behavioral changes.
>>75702667
fpbp
>>75703010
Nature made humans omnivores for a reason you Gurke-loving cuck.
>>75703010
Know what, have a banana
>>75703010
I bet you get your vitamin a from Mohammad's cock.
>>75703010
Vitamins are the least of your problems kraut
>>75703527
>>75703620
>>75703701
Im not even a vegetarian you subhuman fucks.
Just came here from /fit/
But thanks for the banana. Thats quite a good choice my neckbearded friends.
Grocery Jew reporting
I work in an upscale grocery that specializes in local foods, organics, vegetarian/vegan alternatives, etc. etc. Typical pacific northwest libshit grocery store.
Almost every vegan who comes in looks sickly and weak. Pallid or yellowing skin, bags under their dull lifeless eyes, no body fat, no musculature. I know there are vegan athletes but they're obviously taking great care to supplement and balance the diet correctly. The average garden variety vegan I encounter every day is walking with one foot in the grave.
>>75703906
Hopefully they'll be too weak to get up and vote for Shillary in November
>>75703892
>Just came here from /fit/
Fuck off back there. Plenty of delusional 'goal body' threads you can post in.
>>75703620
I really, really, really like this picture.
>>75703010
Your body has a harder time absorbing the nutrients than from animal liver. Don't believe the vegan hype just eat a sensible varied diet full of fish I mean who feels bad about killing fish?
>>75704091
>Fuck off back there
Don't worry, I will. Just came to laugh at you :)
>>75703053
It was actually the comments that pissed me off more than the article. How can so many liberals be proud of being insufferable fucking retards?
>>75704390
I eat 130 gramm of fish everyday my rare-flagged friend. Eating more and mercury could become a problem.
Bioavailability is a thing, but Sweet potatoes have so much vitamin a, that it would never even matter. Even if you could only absorb a fraction of it. I really recommend checking out our threads. Fit doesn't care about ideology, only facts on nutrition. Well, most do anyways.
>>75704607
Laugh at what? We're the ones laughing at Vegans.
>>75702534
why do vegans wear makeup
>>75705004
Afraid of a little pork ahmed?
>>75705004
Well just guessing but the lack of some other nutrients might interfere too. I have read about veganism being dangerous for child rearing. Too be a completely healthy vegan you have to dedicate significant time to eating/shitting and it's very difficult to do.
>>75702534
If you read the actual article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371172/French-vegan-couple-face-jail-child-neglect-baby-died-vitamin-deficiency.html
You will discover that this idiot 40-year-old mother had fed her 11-month-old child NOTHING but breast milk for its entire life.
Considering that children need to start eating solid foods around 4 to 6 months of age, it's fairly obvious what's going on here. It's not a vegan diet that killed the kid, it's PARENTAL STUPIDITY that killed the kid.
Plus one could argue that breast milk is an animal product, so the kid wasn't even eating a vegan diet at all.
>>75702697
Pfft. Id eat her meat.
>>75704607
Go to bed Char.
>>75703167
Vegans make an allowance for human breast milk because babies are 'meant to drink it'.
>>75702827
>being raised by a vegan
I hope this is the level of hell shitposters are sent to.
>>75704203
Thanks Lori.
>>75703010
#FISHLIVESMATTER you insensitive rightwing lunatic. If anything humans need to be eradicated from this planet, we destroy every ecosystem that we touch.
>>75702534
yo but what if the child was like weak of body
and couldn't naturally process those vitamins
and they really din do nuthin
>>75702534
test
>>75705596
Meant to quote>>75704390
>>75702534
Freak accident, this kind of thing hardly ever happens. Look at the millions of fatasses who die every year of heart disease because they spend decades cramming cheese and meat down their throats. Vegans are clearly more healthy on average than meat-eaters.
>>75705322
I didn't read it but I'm pretty sure that can be done on a rich healthy diet.
>>75703906
So basically, Americans need more exercise, or any at all.
>>75703858
that gif made me kek.
>>75703906
This, I know a vegan couple, they both suffered bone loss and she ended up not menstruating from chronic malnutrition.
They put eggs and butter into their diet and improved.
It killed them.
>>75705872
and obese people are clearly healthier on average compared with anorexic people
that means obesity is acceptable
>Be vegan
>Kill yourself and others around you
gg nr
>>75702534
>vegan breastfeeding
what the fuck?
what even is the point of this?
It's not like a chicken dies every time you breastfeed a child
just what the fuck
>>75702768
>Christian scientists
So, most of the influencing ones in history?
>>75706259
it means eating enough protein to sustain milk production for at least two years
I doubt she could, and didn't ask anyone for help or think to maybe feed her child something else.
>>75705872
Yea comparing fast food eating soda drinking blue pilled normal faggot Americans to someone who actually knows what the fuck they are doing.
You don't cut out food groups you don't cut out dairy, meat, potatoes etc. What you actually do is you eat everything in moderate amounts and you don't guzzle soda flushing out your magnesium.
>>75703527
That means you eat both, not one or the other, moron.
>>75706538
Wow somebody who knows something, amazing on this board.
Have a free-range organic baked tendie.
>>75706816
Except sweets you can cut that out.
>>75706337
Christian Scientists, retard. Not Christian scientists. Christian Science is a sect of Christianity that, ironically, believes in prayer over medicine.
They don't have Christian Scientism in Canada?
>>75702534
But, though they were vegans, they did breastfeed the child! They didn't just feed it apple juice and soy milk, like those vegans pulling that kind of stunt before them! That one died in like several days.
This one lasted a whole 11 months!!
>>75707017
I'm not giving up my Diet Coke, REEEEEEEEEE
>>75707151
Yeah, had the same thought. How the fuck is breastmilk vegan? That's exploiting the animal.
>>75704203
Really? I fucking hate it
>>75707181
Drinking the aspartame jew isn't that bacteria fecal matter or something?
>>75702534
I remember reading about this yesterday. The vegan mom and child were climbing Mt. Everest. The kid was obviously in poor shape, and rejected repeated offers of beef jerky from the dad.
>>75707080
>Christian Scientists, retard. Not Christian scientists
You just said the exact same thing twice and then called me a retard you cunt. Get fucked
>>75707017
Nah you can eat fresh fruit and dried fruit and stuff like that.
The fiber keeps you from absorbing some to much of the sugar (depending on the fruit) so it's cool.
But in general I agree.
>>75707181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtXQQXKH9wo
>>75707596
I guess I should have said candy.
>>75703010
mmmm sweet potatoes....
>>75706202
Bravo. A bit extreme, but relevant nonetheless.
>>75703010
sweet potatoes have beta carotene, not vitamin A
>>75707751
If you're really where you are, can you lay some fresh fruit, meat, and produce prices on me?
Genuinely curious.
>>75707475
good shitpost canada
>>75707258
Yeah, but look at this vegan-persecuting society, they generously share the vegan way with their child just that one time, and everyone's around them like vultures!
>>75708200
It's expensive I buy organic too so even more not even sure about weight and price I just go in and end up spending way too much every day like 30-50 $ everyday I do have expensive taste and your dollar is weak I'd say Denmark and London are only slightly cheaper. I can get cheaper fish at the docks or best is to catch it yourself. Like 100g organic baby spinach is like 4$. I can get frozen Icelandic lamb pretty cheap at like 17$ at like 1.2 kg with bone so thats good but yea it's pretty expensive.
>>75702534
gas all vegans!
>>75703136
Because you made the choice to keep it and didn't face the consequences of that choice?
CHILDHAVERS BTFO
>>75703892
>Just came here from /fit/
Are you a closet case or a DYEL faggot that admires other men's "natty" physiques?
>>75705334
I bet vegan pussy is rank.
>>75705872
Tell that to the owners of Soul Vegetarian down in South Side Chicago.
ok ok not vegan but close enough
Family of hippos
>>75707475
He's making a distinction between "Christian Science" and "science pursued by Christians"
The former are "The earth is 6,000 years old" and the latter is "the other scientists who try to figure out how the world works and just kind of assume god made it that way"
>>75702534
You people would be surprised at all the fucked up diets they force onto their infants.
The worst of them are the "underfeeders" who are afraid of making their child fat.
From all the research i'v seen, fat people exist mainly because not only do they eat to much but they sit on their fat ass and do very little.
>>75706538
>flushing out your Mg
I drink about 3-5 sodas a day, what side affects may I be experiencing that I don't know?
Also I'm a hungry skeleton 6'0 145 lbs so don't say obesity.
>>75707475
>being this retarded
>>75706195
>It killed them
Literally or metaphorically?
>>75711335
>having this rare a flag
>>75708566
>>75710371
>>75711335
Soryy guys, he's a Cunt then, not a cunt
>>75705596
Are you the guy in the other thread posting about his parrotfish drowning pitbulls?
>>75711359
Metaphorically.
They were super mopey and butthurt because I was the sick memer who was always arguing against veganism from every one of their bullshit angles like it's kind to animals.
>>75710921
If u lose ur magnesium that's like being cucked by the Jews
Magnesium wise anyway
>>75702534
What's with all this vegan shit on /pol/ lately?
>>75712241
Kike chan, Dan Gabriel, Reddit, Soros, CIA, really makes you think...
>>75709472
they decided not to keep it faggot. It was not even a year old and clearly could not survive on it's own.
>>75703701
That would be vitamin D.
>>75705872
>Cut out essential vitamins and minerals from diet
>Excess of lipids, oils, and carbohydrates in diet
>Either one being healthier than the other
Come on anon, think.
so you're telling me this chick is single again???
as a libertarian i dont think parents should be obligated to feed their children.
>>75716080
it only gets worse
>>75716155
>she threw out her pills for homeopathic meds
>probably some heart medicine in those
isn't that murder?
>>75715729
As libertarian, well meme'd
>>75702534
I bet she was making sure to breasfeed the kid in every single public place too and then getting on social media and talking about how discriminated against she is for doing so.
>>75716155
>>75716080
this is why I hope a cataclysm happens
>>75716584
what meme? i find it disgusting that someone would be held responsible for the problems of another person. fuck that.
>>75716476
negligence on the side of insanity but with evidence like this i would defiantly gone for murder
Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula. Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least four birth control pills per day.
Male infants undergo a testosterone surge during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, baby boys are programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of their sexual organs and other masculinity traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behavior.
In animals, studies indicate that phytoestrogens in soy are powerful endocrine disrupters. Soy infant feeding -- which floods the bloodstream with female hormones that inhibit testosterone -- cannot be ignored as a possible cause of disrupted development patterns in boys, including learning disabilities and attention deficit disorder.
Male children exposed to DES, a synthetic estrogen, had testes smaller than normal on maturation and infant marmoset monkeys fed soy isoflavones had a reduction in testosterone levels up to 70 percent compared to milk-fed controls.
Almost 15 percent of white girls and 50 percent of African-Americans girls show signs of puberty, such as breast development and pubic hair, before the age of eight. Some girls are showing sexual development before the age of three. Premature development of girls has been linked to the use of soy formula and exposure to environmental estrogen-mimickers such as PCBs and DDE. Intake of phytoestrogens even at moderate levels during pregnancy can have adverse affects on the developing fetus and the timing of puberty later in life.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/04/soy-dangers-summarized.aspx
>tfw vegetarian
>mfw I don't have to tell someone every 5 minutes and can eat pretty much anywhere and everything
>the parents are charged with neglect
>>75707080
Only in America :^)
>>75718370
>and can eat pretty much anywhere and everything
what is omnivore ?
I'm out. Goddamn, only in a vegan thread would people be so stupid.
Only when arguing against a vegan is it OK to kill babies, chimps, dogs, cats, etc.
Only on a vegan thread is morality completely subjective, so anyone can do whatever they want.
Only here would "what's the point" overcome "It's the right thing to do".
>>75718897
its not the only case anon
http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-veganbaby.html
>>75716155
>1901 reblogs
>people may support this woman in her decision
>>75705285
Heck yeah!
Kosher ham for Passover and Halal pork chops for Ramadan! The only way to go!
>>75716887
Literally everything you just said is wrong.
http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282%2809%2900966-2/abstract
>>75720436
>http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282%2809%2900966-2/abstract
J.H.-R while a doctoral student at the University of Minnesota received some minor funding from the Soy Nutrition Institute for work on this manuscript. G.V. has nothing to disclose. S.J.D. has nothing to disclose. W.R.P. has nothing to disclose. M.S.K. occasionally consults for the Solae Company. M.J.M. regularly consults for companies in the soy food industry.
ohh veyy gotttta keep the white man down we dont want his hormones keeping the white man strong
>>75720436
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solae_(company)
totaly fair and balanced scientists
no reason to support a fad diet at all huh ?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
Not even vegan but y'all need to lay off the pseudoscience bull.
>>75720788
>>75721019
>Not actually reading the study
It's ok I have more
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf981054j?journalCode=jafcau
>>75703620
LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH
>>75721258
What?? Another??
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16571087
It's crazy how actually seeking out scientific evidence before saying things on the internet makes you not seem like a retard.
>>75702534
i want to taste her feet
This lady is an idiot, vegans need to take a b12 supplement otherwise your shit gets fucked up. As far as vitamin A if you eat a sweet potato you get 1000% of you DRV of vitamin a, she must have been eating weird shit for that to happen.
>>75719065
>http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-veganbaby.html
Ahh, there's that case!
>>75721520
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22677895
>>75721520
NEAT
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1240732/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1314908/
My mom was a vegetarian and I'm still alive. /pol/ btfo!
>>75716887
I would like you to go to the pet store, buy a bone that you would give to your dog to chew on and chew through it, film the whole thing and if you can chew threw a bone at least 3 inches thick I will personally paypal you 1000 dollars.
>Protip you won't because your plant eating teeth will break
>>75702534
natural selection hard at work
>>75722262
>implying i cant just use my hands to get at the bone marrow
>not making bone broth
are you fucking retarded
>>75710112
it tastes like salty soy milk
>>75722090
Please tell me you actually read this study.
>>75702534
>"I win again!" Darwin laughed cruelly as he slipped into the night
>>75722262
Also salivating at the sight of a small animal running by. Pls do this
>>75716155
>it's an active tumblr website
Tumblr: where you can kill your own mother as long as it's politically correct.
>>75702534
How could she breastfeed at all
I mean isn't milk a human byproduct?
Technically comes from some kind of animal right?
Am I grasping at straws here? I legit don't get vegans.
>>75722399
The post showed a picture comparing how the teeth, jaw, are the same in wolfs and humans. So you should have no problem going through a dog bone with your teeth like dogs/wolfs do.
Also you picture says it's impossible for humans to live without animal protein. Would you like to explain to me how people in countries that eat plant based dieted had 1 in 1000 people die of heart attacks compared to 1 in 5 in St.louis when matched for age and sex?
>>75702534
>http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com
Seems reputable!
>>75702534
COWS ARE GIVEN B12 SUPPLEMENTATION. B12 COMES FROM BACTERIA AND IS NOT FOUND NATURALLY IN ANY ANIMAL, PROTIST, OR PLANT.
>>75722855
You are literally retarded.
Cows milk is for calfs
Human milk is for babies
>>75723122
Yeah but aren't vegans like
You only fucking put in your body things that are from nature? A creature can't have produced the thing you eat/drink?
You also can't wear leather right?
>Calling me literally retarded for not understanding how insane people operate
>>75702534
>Cousin was vegan
>Gets pregnant
>Ordered by doctors to change dietary habits
>Dosen't
>Kid managed to live to 7 so far
>Has all kinds of problems, is significantly underweight and cries constantly
Fucking vegans man
>>75723055
yeah but retard we dont hunt with our teath because where bipedal animals first and foremost, not to mention if we whereat hunting with a spear and rock, then we where scaring off hunters kills with our shear autistic powers of being loud and taller than them
>>75723225
this is a positive
their genes will die quickly giving more room for the superior meat eaters
>>75716155
i choose to believe that this is fiction including the response
>>75723329
>"not to mention if we whereat hunting with a spear and rock, then we where scaring off hunters kills with our shear autistic powers of being loud and taller than them"
lol what????
You didn't even respond to any of my points.
>>75723329
So what about our ancestors before tools were used by hominids?
certified vegan AMA
>>75723225
>>75723055
thats the problem with the poo in loos vegan diet, its devoid of vitamin b 12, fats and low on protein this can cause mental degradation due to dietary deficiency's, the biggest problem with the vegan diet is the vegan diet itself, the only default is that i can survive regardless if i eat meat instead of optimally which vegans dont care about
>>75723538
Where do you get your vegan certification?
>>75705322
Breast milk has all the nutrients the baby needs and you should breastfeed until atleast 12 months old (if not longer, because breast milk is that fucking healthy).
Baby would've been alive and well if the parents were normal people.
YEA VEGANS ARE SO STUPID AND WEAK NO VEGAN COULD BECOME STRONG LIKE PIC RELATED
IF WE WERE MEANT TO EAT PLANTS WHY DID GOD EVENT BACON?????
>>75723654
That's all fine and good
But he's not nursing a baby.
>>75723848
Kek
>>75718370
>tfw vegetarian
>mfw I don't have to tell someone every 5 minutes
But you just did?
>>75723567
We don't get b12 anymore because we have clean water and wash our food. Not even you sacred beef gets enough b12 so they feed the cows b12.
You just take a b12 vitamin every day and it's literally no problem.
I would like you to find me a single study of protein deficiency in a human where they were not staving. I searched in pubmed (biggest medical study database) and there wasn't a single one.
Implying eating a low fat diet is a bad thing.
>>75723654
literally who ?
if a pregnant women cant go without complications on a vegan diet then theirs no fucking reason to subject yourself to autism
>>75723596 a homeless man at my local co-op spun me a tale about how babies become addicted to meat in the womb, nasty bloodlusting creatures. then he gave me a sticker set
>>75723225
It makes perfect sense. Your cousin knows as little about nutrition as you do, so she can't sustain a vegan lifestyle. The only reason she isn't healthy is because she's just as retarded as you are.
>>75702534
Vegans are stupid.
Their child died because of their stupidity.
A wasted life.
Parents should be jailed for murder.
>>75724026
>it's okay, you can be a healthy vegan if you plan out every single meal and take 20 pills a day
I don't ever plan ahead my meals, I just eat what takes my fancy. Other than being a fat shit, I have zero health problems except likely latent diabetes
>>75705322
>>75723625
>Breast milk has all the nutrients the baby needs
Do they magically appear in the milk if the mother does not have the nutrients?
>>75723848
>Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.
> American Dietetic Association
IDGAF if you wanna hate on this bitch for not taking a B12 supplement but if you don't take a minute to Google the things you're saying for scientific accuracy, you're just shitposting
>>75724026
>you have to be smart to be on a vegan diet
>you cant survive being dumb on a vegan diet because you'll die on the diet
>implying im dumb for not having a diet that wont actively kill me and a pregnant ladies child
>Tucker et al. (2000, USA, 13) found that vitamin B12 from fortified breakfast cereals and dairy products was associated with better vitamin B12 status than was B12 intake from red meat, poultry, and fish, leading the researchers to suspect that the B12 from meat might be damaged by cooking.
:o
fucking vegans man... gas them all. there were no vegans until like 20 years ago also ffs.
>>75724184
>Vegan is the same as vegetarian
>>75724300
>appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or VEGAN diets
>the same fucking study
I swear /pol/ gets a gold medal for shitposts
>>75723988
Your brain functions on fats. Want to be at an optimal health? Eat an extremely high fat (avocados, almonds, grass fed butter, eggs, etc), low carb which should be obtained through vegetables and not fruit and a moderate amount of protein. Give your body two weeks to adapt and you'd be absolutely amazed at how clear and healthy you'll feel. Always stay in ketosis.
Haven't really read any of your other posts so I'm just throwing this out there.
>>75724113
Are you really fat? Like real fat?
>>75703450
I have all of those symptoms and eat a lot of meat. Am I fucked.
>>75724470
So the study is insinuating that vegans and vegetarians are the same thing
>>75709472
What country are you? I don't know this flag.
>>75724512
I've been wanting to try for a ketosis diet for a while, but I work at a pizzeria so I get huge amounts of free carbs
>>75724555
~270lbs at last weight in, 6'1 tall. Grew up in a fat family, I've never known what it is to be thin
>>75724625
niggerdad and tobago
more likely just nigger and tobago, actually
>>75724609
As in they studied both
>>75724512
>Your brain functions on fats.
I'm fucking done with you retards, your brain functions on sugars.
>>75724512
can confirm ate 18 eggs a day with bell pepper, onion, mushrooms, and a dab of butter for cooking sake and extra salt for muh workouts
lost like 10lbs in 2 weeks, slow for most people but much needed in my time
>>75724801
skewing results yet again i see
>>75724801
Ok so the results aren't conclusive because in reality they're not the same thing
>>75703053
I had a lecturer at university go on a rant about how people who try to raise vegan pets should be banned from having kids or pets.
>>75716080
Citation fucking needed. I swear militant vegans are the dumbest people on earth.
>>75702534
Kek
Hey, those vegans wanted to not eat meat, they should have taken supplements for their diets to help it.
>>75724945
>>75724991
>Still not even bothering to read the actual fucking study out of fear of scrutiny
I even put it in a nice hyperlink for you ;_;
>>75706337
He meant those people that heal through faith and prayer, not scientists who are christian.
>>75724113
>20 pills a day
>What is a multivitamin
>>75724917
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2805706/
we littarly needed fats to adapt
why do you think hunters are smart
:P
>>75724917
Brain functioning on fats directly is wrong but the brain and heart will make more efficient use of ketones than sugars.
>>75725186
dont worry i save it for scrutiny im not a cuck who cant read
just your fucking wrong
>>75725258
>it's okay, we compressed those 20 pills into one mega pill
>Take your medicine like a good goy, think of all the pandas you're saving
>>75716155
I heard about this, did she ever get arrested or something?
>>75724799
Ah. That's the first time I've seen that flag in all of the time I occasionally spend on /int/ and /pol/
>>75725406
Cool, in the meantime please don't act like a nutrition expert on the internet, k?
I'm trusting you
>>75703450
>low energy vegans
>>75725423
>but dont take steriods we dont want goys to rebel and be strong enough to carry a gun in a firefight
oh well atleast DHEA(steriod) and DIM (estrogen blocker) are still legal, i can get decent results without fucking my endocrine system like some tards do with real deal roids
>>75725467
to my knowledge her shits still up and running
>>75725576
shit works both ways
go learn the endocrine system its an eye opener
>>75703010
What the article didn't say is that you only get the vitamins from the sweet potato if you stick it in your arse whole
>>75703010
Don't forget about rapefugee cum its also rich in vitamins
>>75725687
I live almost next door to a gym, and there's been 4 steroid busts in the last 5 months, and a guy that I went to school with is currently in hospital because he was taking orals like a complete retard
>>75706337
they were christian because they were part of the ruling class, which demanded traditional values. the rich kids were the ones who went to school and being an atheist wasn't and still politically correct
>>75707858
>TFW the comfiest pig.
>>75722262
>>75723055
Holy crap there really are people this stupid
>muh selective reasoning
>>75725920
yeah thats why that shit needs to be regulated to half decent non methalted orals only and must be 21 to buy, not to mention stories and facts to scare off the retards before they learn anything about the hormonal system
its a complete shit show becuase it can help prevent depression which DHEA does much better than the rest
and estrogen blockers carry its own health benefits as well as it being a great aid in fatloss for both sexes
not to mention the miltiary and police uses, which they dont even care about
funny cops are the biggest roid users and they dont even bother with the users or there own dealers
>>75724917
Wait, are you being remotely serious? Sugar may be the single most harmful substance we ingest on a daily basis. A direct link to many different types of cancers, which explains your posts, among a wide variety of debilitating ailments although it's a widely believed myth that sugar is responsible for diabetes. Sugar should be obtained through natural sources such as fruit but in low, very low quantities unless you're a serious athlete who requires it. Not to say a coke every once and awhile is going to hurt if you're one of those people who enjoy that.
Fats, fats, fats is the key to a healthy body. Not the kind you get from a McDonalds hamburger but your healthy fats. The fat makes you fat myth is the leading cause of obesity in America when a study was released in the 1950s by a man named Ancel Keys reported saturated fats are the leading cause of heart disease and obesity. What took place was a diet that was replaced by low fat foods that contained high fruticose corn syrup (I.e. SUGAR). What we now know is that his reported findings couldn't be further from the truth and can absolutely be attributed to our nations obesity epidemic along with a sedentary lifestyle.
What's also interesting is that the big spooky butter doesn't raise cholesterol what so ever. It's the aforementioned sedentary lifestyle. Your source is the most important part of creating a healthy diet, always opt for high quality food sources and animals that weren't raised on corn or hormones.
Hopefully someone picked up some useful information from this post.
>>75716080
>highlighting the scary words
>>75721307
kek
>>75716887
so much of the data in that chart is wrong, starting with stomach bacteria.
So.. how is Geemany dealing with their love for swine meat/products and islam?
If breast milk counts as vegan, why don't adult vegans drink breast milk?
I'm serious. That would actually solve all their health issues.
>>75707475
Note the lack of a capital letter on 'scientist'. This means they are scientists that are Christian, as opposed to "Christian Scientists".
So yeah you're fucking retarded.
>>75702534
#BANBREASTFEEDINGNOW
>>75703010
Everytime I go to the supermarket, I choose the sweet potato that looks the most like Taiwan.
This makes my Chinese girlfriend happy so she can finally have Taiwan.
>>75726224
Burger, that industrial sugar is poison we all know. But glucose is the molecule of life. If you don't get it, your body will start to degrate everything to get it or similars (ketonics bodies)
>>75724644
Ditch that shit. Those massive insulin spikes from those carbohydrates are what causes that huge crash that I know you experience throughout the day. No reason to feel bad about that type of diet as I've gone through stints of horrendous eating. Do a little research and give a ketogenic diet for 30 days, the first one to two weeks you WILL feel like shit. After that you won't go back. It's amazing how much our diet not only effects our physical health but our mental health as well. You'll have constant energy throughout the day, I guarantee you will feel happier and less anxious if you deal with that, and no more 'brain fog'. If there is one thing I shill it's a ketogenic diet. Do the research and give it 30 days, simple. If you don't like it then go back to pizza, at least you'll have lost a significant amount of weight in the process.
>>75724512
>doing keto
Enjoy your gallstones
>>75726882
You can't have a diet without any carbo intake for long time. Without at least 50g of carbo per day your body starts to do gliconeogenesis. After 3-4 weeks, ketones bodies stars to acumulate the SNC, starting a neuropathy
>>75726827
That's an absurd claim. Your liver doesn't enjoy processing all of that glucose and your pancreas sure as hell doesn't like those absurd insulin spikes that leave you lifeless an hour after shoveling pasta, bread, and other simple carbohydrates into your mouth. What exactly do you think your body is 'degrating'? Of course you don't starve your body of carbs, you're just getting them in smaller quantities and from better sources such as vegetables.
>>75727099
thats about right, keto fags are just as bad as vegans
the true redpilled diet is high fat/protien and low(not without) carbs
carbs=bulking
fats= dieting/hormonal
protein=cant live without 0.8 per pound is optimal
>>75706753
No, it means you are able to derive all nutrients from both animal based and plant based food.
>http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/baby-breastfed-by-vegan-mother-dies/
>raditional cultures took great care to ensure that pregnant and breastfeeding mothers consumed ample amounts of animal foods rich in vitamins A, D, E, K and of course B12. These foods included grassfed butter, pastured eggs, liver, seafood, and fish eggs. Notice that none – NOT ONE of these traditionally sacred foods is plant based!
With that being said, green leafy vegetables have plenty vitamin A.
Vitamin D is made in your skin.
Vitamin E is found in nuts, seeds and dark leafy vegetables.
And vitamin K in just about any vegetable.
Which shows, once again, that you need to eat varied to be healthy and that it doesn't matter whether you're eating vegan, vegetarian or any thing.
>>75727099
Again, you're not receiving zero carbs following a ketogenic diet. I'm not entirely sure why you're promoting bunk science in which there is absolutely no credible published literature regarding "neuropathy". It seems like you heard someone mention that and you're simply restating it.
Here is some literature you may find interesting
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/
>>75727219
My claim is that you cannot stay alive without glucose. Almost every carb gets degrated to it or follow the fat path to ketosis to be metabolized. Our full biochemical machinary works on glucose.
Yes, single carbs are metabolized on an instant. The more processated, the worst it is. But we can't live without carbs, we just have to know how to pick them.
>>75727453
You dunce, that IS keto. It goes to show how many people can be so uneducated on nutrition. By the way, those pancakes are not the type of fats you're going for and are in fact HIGH carbohydrate.
>>75707475
Canada, everybody
>>75711335
>>75703010
Yeah pretty much. There is obviously more to the story because there are plenty of vegan mothers out there who don't have problems.
>>75709235
Late but thanks anon.
I buy 2 pounds or organic baby spinach for $5. I am a foodie, but I hunt and fish and forage, however I spend an easy grand on food a month. Including shit like truffles and bottargo.
I bet you'd spend $6k a month to eat like my wife and I.
OP pls, these people being vegan were the least of their crazy
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/29/vegans-trial-death-baby-breast-milk
>Daquo said they had a mistrust of traditional medicine and preferred to treat their children's complaints with advice from books.
>"The couple did not follow the doctor's advice to take the baby to hospital when they went for her nine-month checkup and found she was suffering from bronchitis and was losing weight," he said. Instead they treated her with cabbage poultices, mustard and camphor and washed her with earth and clay instead of giving her baths, the court heard.
>>75727643
Maybe I know a little more than you.
>>75728324
You're absolutely delusional if you believe anything you've stated. I would ask for a refund on your classes ASAP. Go ahead and read the literature and report back.
>>75728308
These fuckin insane vegans bro just make me angry.
>>75728589
Them being vegans actually had nothing to do with their baby dying, their baby died because they didn't "believe" in modern medicine and tried to cure their baby of bronchitis with cabbage
I'm not a vegan and I've met a lot of crazy ones, believe me. But crazy people who are anti modern medicine and vaccines are far worse than any vegan could ever possibly be and the title of this article should say instead
>Crazy parents who don't believe in modern medicine kill their baby
>>75728779
Yeah the article is pretty misleading i just wonder how people become this delusional in the first place.
>>75728473
>>75727453
Carbs are your primary source of energy though.
>>75703010
Make sweet potato fries more widespread for us burgers and we got something here. Then again, if she didn't care about getting the right nutrients she might not care otherwise.
>>75703620
i dont know what it is about this image, or the way you just gave the image to him, but i laughed too hard hahah
>>75703620
>>75723498
they probably had jaws like chimps
even otherwise man has been wielding rocks and sticks probably from the time we had hands
>>75729002
only for intense exercise i.e exercise that stimulates the lactate system, for general purpose (particularly in the low activity modern day) a high fat/protein diet is more than sufficient especially when you consider the general low GI nature of protein and fat based foods
carbs are recommended before or even during and after intense exercise
n.b it's impossible to avoid carbs all together as all foods contain a bit of everything
t. personal trainer and nutrionist
>>75706337
>cuckstianity
not even once
>>75702534
Neque pro neque contra, but, at least as far as I know, Vitamin B12 is synthesized in the intestines while the precursor of Vitamin A - beta-Carotene - can be found in carrots, pumpkins, mangoes, apricots, etc. Besides, the mother's system synthesizes everything the offspring needs and secretes it into the breast milk, even at the expense of its own health.
I need a medfag to confirm these though.
>ketofags shitting up the thread
You nigs are so dumb. Avoiding carbs so much that you have to suck down gallons of caffeine to function. Also, ketosis is a state of illness that can't be sustained for prolonged periods of time.
>>75711335
nice proxy
>>75723055
You can't seriously be THIS stupid. The whole reason we developed intelligence is because our jaw muscles were weaker than our ape counterparts, allowing the brain to grow much larger.
Apes and a lot of niggers have these deep ridges on their skulls so they can put out much more biting force due to having much larger jaw muscles.
>Correlation implies causation!
Get the fuck out
VEGANS BTFO
>scrolling through itt
>VIDF active as expected
how does it feel to have a diet that become impossible the moment you move out of a major city or decide to become self-sustaining?
>>75703906
That made my day
>>75728324
>appeal to authority
I have diabetes 1 and I can tell you from experience, 125 gram of carbs a day is enough but less than 100g is just awful and drains you of energy and the ability to form coherent thoughts.
It's hard though, almost everything has carbs in it except fish, meats, cheeses and other dairy products.
Surely vegans have had kids before, no?
>>75735286
Veganism is a fairly recent occurrence because it just doesn't happen in nature due to the required supplements.
The thing is, you can be a vegan if you are
>educated
>rich
But as a fad diet, it's going to backfire since it requires very precise amounts of supplements. Stupid people see celebs do it and think, I'm going vegan! And then they become the worst kind of skinny fat.
>>75702534
apparently same for diphenhydramine which is the most common drug used in otc sleep aides
they keep finding it in autopsies for sudden infant death syndrome
>>75735448
Why precise? Isn't it safe to go a bit above the required amount?
>>75735567
Haha yes, a BIT is fine. We have tolerance levels. But considering anyone can buy vitamin pills these days with no idea how to dose them properly?
A single vitamin C supplement pill can contain a 1000% of your daily need. One of the most common overdoses after C is B6, which effectively becomes a neurotoxin if you take too much.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/vitamin-b6/safety/hrb-20058788
Vitamins are dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.
