>TORIES ADMIT ELECTORAL FRAUD IN SOUTH THANET, POSSIBLE BY ELECTION AFTER THE REFERENDUM. WILL ARE NIGE STAND?
http://www.channel4.com/news/new-expenses-scandal-emerges-as-tories-fight-police-in-court
http://www.channel4.com/news/election-expenses-exposed
>CAMERON HAILS MUSLIM MAYOR AS "QUINTESSENTIALLY BRITISH"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36410749
>MOUTHY GOBSHITE JESS PHILIPS LAUNCHES "ANTI-TROLLING CAMPAIGN"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36417258
>LOCAL COUNCIL ATTEMPTS TO RIG EU REFERENDUM WITH POSTAL VOTES
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/30/council-to-pulp-eu-referendum-postal-ballots-as-bias-row-spreads/
>HUGE SURGE TOWARDS LEAVE CAMPAIGN, NOW LEADING +3 ON A PHONE POLL
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/737654643778543617
First for no survivors
>>75689904
>>75689904
Guardian online polls AND phone polls find a 52-48 lead for Brexit.
>http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/31/uk-voters-leaning-towards-brexit-guardian-poll-reveals
>>75689904
also is someone else in york going to see the woolfe of wall street tomorrow
please tell me I won't be alone amongst the student hordes
>>75690145
Based
Seems most polls point to a stay vote, why brit/pol/?
>>75690145
Saw that post earlier today.
This is a man we should all try to be more like.
>>75690145
Remaincucks on suicide watch
![6a00d8341bf8f353ef017eeacb1b2e970d[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Nhanssp.jpg "6a00d8341bf8f353ef017eeacb1b2e970d[1].jpg")
>>75690228
Fucking hell when you factor in how strong and reliable the leave side will be it will probably end up 60/40 at least. The stay side won't be able to say shit after they get absolutely devastated.
90% of the people I know are voting out
Only my homo corbyn loving brother and my metropolitain uncles are voting in
>>75689904
Godspeed you glorious bastards.
>>75690228
>Even guardian polls say we're leaving
Holy shit it's actually happening
>>75690321
shy tory effect. People who want out because of immigration won;t say so to avoid the muh racism shit they get
Bumping for the True Briton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDf2G1vyNX8
https://youtu.be/GHhuBZEZESU
>>75690482
The glorious trio (fuck the leafs)
>>75690481
If he loves Corbyn then he should know he's wanted to leave for years and is only saying things to keep his party together at the moment.
>>75690228
>>75689904
The fuck is this with the new meaning of 'quintessential'? Is this a new meme for idiots? Are there those who have genuinely forgotten what it used to mean? Are we doublespeak yet?
>>75690228
>both online and phone guardian polls show LEAVE leading
>>75690742
A thank you thread because I think it's important.
When Brexit succeeds, will EU flags be burnt up and down the country?
>>75689904
Wait, does this surprise anybody? For real?
>>75690740
You want fresh memes? No problem mate
>>75690228
Literally the same ICM poll from earlier.
>>75690800
pic related
A radical muslim in a Burka won a british cooking competition, and the media described her as "quintessentially british"
>>75690800
Some paper described this muslim woman who won the Great British Bakeoff, a TV show about baking which in unexplainably popular, as 'quintessentially British'. Since then it has, as you said, become something of a meme
>>75690967
Yes
18 minutes from this post it will be referendum month.
Remainers starting to tear up and shake after they thought they had this handled after last weeks polls.
Replying to posts in the other thread because I'm 2slow4u
>>75688028
>It was specifically designed to remove power from the people.
But it hasn't. People have their representation in both the EU citizens initiative and the EU parliament. Not to mention the rules regarding national parliamentary input, and the power conveyed to the UK govt (and I believe other national govt's but I'm not sure on that) I mention below.
>So what do you do when they start passing laws you do not agree with? What then?
well based on the recent deal which would give the national parliament power to stop EU laws, I would contact my MP.
>>75688286
We still have representation, and as above, we can still stop legislation we don't like.
>>75688291
at the very least, we will be trading on less favourable terms than now. It's pure fantasy to think that the EU, and in particular Germany, wouldn't take full advantage of the situation to strengthen their economies and weaken ours.
>>75688301
>So you genuinely don't think it's undemocratic that only an unelected commission can propose new laws?
Each member state has their own commissioner, and furthermore, the parliament can request that legislation be proposed. Additionally, under the EU citizens initiative mentioned above, people can through a petition directly request a piece of legislation be put forward.
>Or that theoretically every UK MEP could vote against a law, but we could still end up with it?
See above; if the national parliament disagrees, we can stop that legislation.
>>75690036
"ok"
http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/fleet-industry-news/2016/02/24/nissan-and-toyota-would-prefer-uk-to-stay-in-eu
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/03/uk-motor-industry-backs-uk-remaining-in-europe-survey-eu-positive-impacy
>>75691070
tbqh she was nice because she's some middle class woman, not like 99% of them who don't speak English
>>75690967
I think EU flags will be burning on June 24th no matter the result.
>>75691107
wewlad, the autist has followed us over
>>75691135
That's the thing though, we're told that every single muslim is exactly like her
Never mind the ones raping white girls and blowing themselves up on a train, they're not real muslims though
>>75691107
>there are people out there that unironically defending the current state of the EU
>>75691070
Q U I N T E S S E N T I A L L Y
>>75691232
Yeah I know how they work lad
>>75691107
>we can still stop legislation we don't like.
>100% defeat rate in the council of ministers
wew lad
>people keep spouting the "only 16% of our laws are made in Brussels!" Bullshit
If you were making decisions about you life and the rest of your street decided what to do every sixth decision you'ld be fucking pissed.
If the Queen, out of some sort of dementia decision-making, ordered all male subjects circumcised, would you comply?
>>75691328
revolt as is our right given to us in the magna carta
the rough wording is "if i go nuts and make your lives hell, revolt against me"
>>75689904
>HUGE SURGE
>+3
>>75691328
Britain only 30 years ago would revolt.
Modern Britain would kowtow.
>>75691328
They'd probably put her down desu, or have Charles take over as regent
It happened 200 years ago with King George III
He went up to a tree and tried shaking its hand, thinking it was the King of Prussia
After that they locked him in a castle somewhere and George IV ruled for him
>>75691426
Look at the big picture.
Remain are down 10 points within a month.
> Guardian polls, both phone and online, saying out.
> Guardian polls.
> Guardian.
Holy shit lads, it's fucking happening. This is the uncuckening.
>>75691426
The surge isn't +3, the lead is.
>>75691096
>my main man Rees Mogg in da house
They're going to fucking rig it those bastards. Fuck.
I'm not even a /pol/itician and I fucking hate this mass immigration. Fuck these backwards savages. Fuck them and they're regressive ideology. And fuck the fucking EU ministers. Fuck.
>>75690481
Ask him if he'd love a completely powerless mouth piece for brussels Corbyn should Labour get in post bremain.
Does anyone have a good source for reasons to stay vs reasons to leave? I'm not a britbonger so i'm not as informed
>>75691426
Only two phone polls have leave ahead, the other +1, this is pretty big if you've been following the polls.
Phone polls so far have kept the leave side down on the poll of polls
>>75691491
Poor guy, maybe he was trying to make a point..
>>75691230
>>75691235
ok chaps address the points I raise then.
>>75691280
>EU member states would stop discussing a proposal for a new EU law if a large group (just over a majority) of national parliamentary chambers objected to it – unless the points raised by those national parliaments were satisfactorily addressed.
wew lad indeed
>>75691316
See above, we can stop it if we like. The fact is the UK clearly doesn't object to these laws; evidently they are considered of either no ill effect, or some benefit to the UK,
>>75691563
Here is the only reason necessary
Freedom
>>75691107
>we can still stop legislation we don't like
We've tried 72 times, and failed 72 times.
>>75691537
>Sutherland
Is there any kikier looking kike around?
>>75691107
>we can still stop legislation we don't like.
:^)
>See above; if the national parliament disagrees, we can stop that legislation.
No, that was part of a negotiation that we failed to get.
>>75691618
tl'dr your post, it's late and I've had a beer.
Defend this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8895003/New-Italian-government-does-not-include-a-single-elected-politician.html
>>75691070
>>75691086
Ahahahaha
British comedy is the best. Something about it being a TV show about cakes makes this more funny. And yes, very British in a farcical way, like monty python.
>>75691677
please see >>75691618
As of February this year, our parliament can.
My neck has been getting quite stiff lately, should I change up my pillows? they're not very good, does memory foam actually help?
>>75691835
Nah, it's just global warming. Buy an electric car and the pain should go away.
>>75691328
Good grief, no.
Kindly fuck off, ma'am.
>>75691328
The phimosis Jew got to me
Tfw I will never do the piss balloon again
https://youtu.be/xh5eFseg-Cg
Look at this PATRIOTIC ENGLISH WOMAN
Now look at that disgusting like/dislike ratio
She even calls out white genocide with the phrase 'Panda Sickness'
>>75691812
>just over a majority
The UK on its own isn't enough then, how does that disprove what I said.
>>75691835
I rest my head on my sheep while shitposting mate, very soft and contours to your body supporting the neck.
>>75691934
Hows it looking now though, aesthetic af?
>>75691650
I know they should leave, i just wana know how some can justify staying.
>>75691996
How do you get it to stay still?
>>75690228
i never lost faith lads
happening
>>75691107
>at the very least, we will be trading on less favourable terms than now. It's pure fantasy to think that the EU, and in particular Germany, wouldn't take full advantage of the situation to strengthen their economies and weaken ours.
This is very basic economics. The UK is one of Germany's biggest buyers. Trade restrictions between the two nations (i.e. the UK and the EU) means Germany suffers more. Germany economically dominates the EU, do you seriously see them screwing themselves over just to spite the UK? It's in their best interests to make sure the UK gets full access to the single market no matter what. Germany would sooner help the UK secure an unfair deal to the rest of the pleb nation states just to protect their exports - just like they exploit Greece and Portugal for their own economic good.
> But it hasn't. People have their representation in both the EU citizens initiative and the EU parliament. Not to mention the rules regarding national parliamentary input, and the power conveyed to the UK govt (and I believe other national govt's but I'm not sure on that) I mention below.
When the powers of legislative initiative and the powers of an executive are with an unelected body, you're practically in a dictatorship. What's wrong with your Parliament running the country? Why do you need to be in a federation with such a democratic deficit?
This is bigger than just the UK. I care because my country is being fucked by this bullshit too. The UK leaving frees us all from this tyranny. The UK remaining means we're all resigned to the United States of Europe ruled by people who are not accountable to the populace.
>>75690228
Anyone want to guess how much I laid on brexit?
>>75692079
Somethings are best left unposted anon.
What is the worst case scenario if we leave and it all goes tits up lads?
>>75691552
>Ali G interview Moggie
I had no idea who he was back when I was a kid watching Ali G.
I probably laughed at his posh accent like the pleb that I am
>>75692167
£250
>>75692257
recession again for a couple of years
>>75692129
I actually think Germany will hurt themselves to make leaving painful.
If we make a success of leaving, every other country will want to.
>>75691950
pretty redpilled for a woman tbqh famalam
>>75692058
Well since your asking, I don't think it was a complete cut. Maybe something like a Tortoise with 9/10ths of it's head out of its shell.
>>75691950
Watch her most recent video.........
>>75691491
>the mad king
did he not try and burn anyone?
POST YFW BRITAIN LEAVES THE FOURTH REICH
Should I use up the last of my Sportsbet account balance, famalams? is it a sure thing?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/31/brexit-referendum-campaigns-politicians
why the hell do brits say guardian and BBC aren't horribly biased?
>>75692077
Gonna need to go to reddit for that but it will probably go something like
>we'll lose jobs
We won't, we'll probably create them
>we won't be able to sell our goods
False, we're the largest contributor to the EU, and we provide a significant bulk of Germanys imports, they literally cannot survive without us if we decide not to sell
>we won't be able to emigrate
Unless they completely bar brits from coming to their countries (which would cripple relations meaning we'll take all our contribution, economic supremacy and military presence elsewhere) which they won't.
>>75692264
from the ali g interview i thought he was pretty cool even though i did not know who he was at the time
>>75692464
>brits say guardian isn't horribly biased
uwot?
>>75692464
Also
>Frankie fucking Boyle
>>75692464
literally nobody says that
>>75692417
GOAT gif.
Why have I never seen this before?
>>75692448
As someone who put £200 on Donald back when he was 5:1, I say go for it famalam
>>75692448
DO. IT
>>75692448
might as well mate
p.s. if we dont leave I'm moving to Aus
>>75692348
German politicians perhaps, but German industry will be on their government like flies on shit. It simply will not happen.
This is one of the drawbacks of their manufacturing export economy. Britain is the single best placed nation to pull an exit. Germany itself wouldn't be able to do it because it sells to everyone.
>>75691950
She's been through a hundred Paki dicks m8
>>75692743
>>75692375
Hahahahaha jesus should have guessed.
But in a way isnt that consistent? She senses she wants a strong man (fine) and recognises unlimited immigration to the UK is destroying the country while modern culture feminises its men
basically anyone who knows anything about how EU politics actually works is suggesting that leaving is a bad idea.
That should be telling. Today's breed of keyboard warriors who only care about MUH FREEDOMS and irrationally hate government with no proposals for how to better it are basically the Brexit meat and potatoes.
You may think the tide is turning, but to an outside observer, between this and trump it just seems that the masses have become less educated and incapable of effective critical thought. See such numbskulls as:
>>75690481
>>75691232
>>75691554
>>75691650
Enjoy your freedom when your currency tanks and you are begging for more favourable terms from member states because tariffs under the WTO rules are too high and you can't find buyers for 44% of your exports
>>75692590
anytime I link to dailymail I get told that it's a rag and to use BBC or guardian instead
I see the Mountain Jew of EU shilling isn't here.
>brexit
>nigel in south thanet
>trump elected
>le'pen elected
this is going to be our year /po/
>>75693005
A FUCKING LEAF
>>75692925
This only shows how mindblowingly incompetent and childish EU leadership really is.
>>75692348
>>75692129
>leaving
Lads, why would we leave something we practically control? Of course I want out but you have to see the irony here. We'll only get out if this whole thing goes down in general.
>>75693005
Cmon justin don't you have anything better to be doing?
>>75693148
But the captain always goes down with his ship...
>>75693115
Not the worst thing they've done lately to influence brexit vote.
see:
EU army leaks
Juncker flat out saying he will not allow a right-wing leader to be elected and will isolate any country that does so http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/juncker-vows-to-use-new-powers-to-block-the-far-right-nq5r5tnqq
etc
>>75693005
>one of the most powerful nations on the face of the earth
>our favourite son's (not Canada) at our back
>people not buying our shit
U wannae go mate?
>>75693069
This.
Ever since January, it's been obvious that 2016 is the point when CURRENT YEAR became a marvellous thing.
If there's a by-election in S.Thanet, I'll be grinning for weeks.
>>75689904
TTIP. obviously it sucks, if we leave will the USA come at us with an even worse deal because we've lost negotiating power? Would Cameron take an even worse deal, he seems more in favour of TTIP than some other EU nations?
>>75693148
I'm just saying you couldn't if you wanted to. Germany benefits most from the EU even though it looks like you prop the entire thing up. Germany doesn't mine giving Poland gibmedats while it can maintain a cheap currency while producing in demand, high quality products to export. It's a fucking Krauts dream.
>>75693041
He slipped out after dark to search for gold deposits.
'Select all images with Mountains'
Top kek
>>75693069
Le'pen is getting elected? I thought they already had their rigged elections?
>>75693238
That's what I mean, the only way we could possibly get out of the EU is when the EU itself is no more. Unless of course there is a coup.
>>75691811
I-it's not a comedy show, though.
>>75693418
Local elections m8, presidential in 2017.
She's fucked by 2 round system though. All the socialists will vote for the cuckservative or vice versa.
>>75693385
It's not if the population gets fucked. Germans don't see it that way though.
>>75693198
>>75693565
Why do you have to keep making me cringe?
>>75691491
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
>>75693427
Can you imagine a hypothetical coup in a western yuropean country in modern times? I just cant. It would be glorious, but I cant even imagine it.
>>75693655
>>75692942
It's all part of the plan. Use the ducation system to turn white men into pathetic lefty cucks, leaving women totally unfulfilled, and then Mohammed steps in to fill the hole. Literally. She even knows it's wrong but the slut needs the dick and can't resist.
>>75692925
>32 ton EU containter lorries cause 10x the road surface damage of older 22-ton lorries
>Ports located miles away from rail distribution hubs
>Road transport inevitable
>impose tax to pay for it
>EU gets butthurt about how we're discriminating against foreign businesses
>We should roll over and let our roads get fucked by hauliers that pay 0 road tax in the UK
>And pay for the privilege of getting sued
but_why.jpg
>>75693621
Sorry family. Please call the number in the picture funded by Canadian tax dollars and speak with someone. I didn't mean to trigger you.
>>75691792
>It isn’t necessary for the EU Commission or parliament to agree to this plan, although they could try to find some way to challenge it in the EU courts.
>>75691794
Italian domestic politics is a mess, what's new?
>>75691974
It refers to a majority within our national parliament.
>>75692129
>It's in their best interests to make sure the UK gets full access to the single market no matter what
I disagree. The EU (mostly the French & Germans no doubt) would most likely be able to pick up on the trade deals, dependent on the single market, that would suffer if the UK leaves the EU, to plug the gap. Not to mention the businesses that would be forced to relocate. And you're also not ruling out the possibility of an asymmetrical trade agreement (in favour of course, of the EU), nor the fact that the UK leaving would hand, in practice, more power to the French and other left leaning economies, as such hurting the ability of the Germans to make such an unlikely decision. It's naive to assume that the because the Germans trade lots with us under the current circumstances, that leaving the EU would not change anything.
The European parliament and the people of the EU can both request certain legislation be proposed. It's also important to remember that each EU member state has a commissioner.
>I care because my country is being fucked by this bullshit too
Because Norway is playing by the rules so it has access to the single market, but has no say in the rules. That's what you get for not being part of the EU.
>>75693406
I am certain it's not a coincidence that the capcha often will have references to what you've been writing, because there are specific things in the photographs.
In the true revolutionary, the first quality is the power to endure. Constancy, loyalty to cause and comrades, manhood and stability of nature. These are the qualities of the true Britain and the true revolutionary. In our movement that great character of the British has been reborn. And for that reason we carry within us the destiny of Britain. We care not whether we win tomorrow morning or at the end of a lifetime of labour and of struggle. For to us the little calculations of the little men mean nothing. All we care is that win we will because Britain demands it and no power on earth can hold down the will within us.
Struggles we have had and will have. Blows we have taken and will again. Victories we have had and will have again, yes greater victories than even Britons have ever known.
Guard that sacred flame my brother Blackshirts until it illumines Britain and lights again the path of mankind. Together in Britain we have lit a flame that cannot and shall not extinguish.
>>75693655
No of course not, we can't even get a proper right wing party and have to lick the boots of controlled opposition. Right wing anything is literally Hitler here.
Maybe it's one of these days and I'll wake up tomorrow and have a completely different opinion but as of right now, Germany is dead and almost buried.
>>75693792
Hold up, that cant be real.
>>75693005
go away shill.
>>75691107
JUST VOTE FOR YOUR NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY YOU KEK
>>75693367
There is literally 0% chance Cameron will still be Prime Minister if we leave, and probably only about 10% if we remain.
>>75689904
Does our man Nige know how much we love him?
>>75694336
Yeah I didn't take that into consideration. Would Boris be more likely to stand up to TTIP? The Americans would still be able to lean on us too since we'd be in the position where we need a deal unlike right now.
>>75691107
C U C K
U C K
C K
K
>>75693925
This particular Mosley quote is more important now than it ever has been before. The path of mankind, long blanketed in night, is illuminated by a dim and fragile, yet hopeful flame. It is the job of the blackshirt to see that it is not snuffed out.
>>75694699
Boris likes TTIP but we can just get it reversed in the next GE, or if the tories do go through with their vote of no confidence.
>>75693367
You can elect a government that can revoke TTIP. But if the EU sign it we're trapped in.
>>75693792
>>75694020
https://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1100100015576/1100100015577
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MAKE BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN
>>75694850
stop the pain anon...
>>75694850
Should we prank call them?
>>75695036
>>75694020
http://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1448633299414/1448633350146
Brothers from across the pond, please vote to leave. I know its hard when you're neet but you need to do it. I took time to vote for the wonderful Donald now it's your turn
>>75694766
That last part is particularly relevant. Oh, how we need on orator of his stature, to fuel this flame again.
>All we care is that win we will because Britain demands it and no power on earth can hold down the will within us.
>Struggles we have had and will have. Blows we have taken and will again. Victories we have had and will have again, yes greater victories than even Britons have ever known.
>Guard that sacred flame my brother Blackshirts until it illumines Britain and lights again the path of mankind. Together in Britain we have lit a flame that cannot and shall not extinguish.
Brexit in a nutshell.
>>75695036
>>75695147
>>75695182
stop
>>75695182
where the fuck are the leafposters
>>75693841
> Because Norway is playing by the rules so it has access to the single market, but has no say in the rules. That's what you get for not being part of the EU.
Norway doesn't have the 5th largest economy in the world. The UK will secure a deal unlike any struck by Norway, Switzerland or Canada.
Your economic point is just wrong, I'm sorry. Money talks. Germany is not going to impose tariffs on one of their largest export partners. France is not going to impose tariffs on one of their largest export partners. It's economic insanity. This line of reasoning is absolutely absurd from an economic standpoint. You're saying these politicians might completely ignore the industrial voice of their nations, because reasons. It's ridiculous. In this instance, being a service economy makes you very powerful.
> The European parliament and the people of the EU can both request certain legislation be proposed. It's also important to remember that each EU member state has a commissioner.
The end game of the EU is federalisation. Do you seriously want to become a state in a federation that is governed this way? Just ponder the ramifications of that concept.
If the Americans offered Britain a chance to become the 51st state, but you get no power to propose legislation, only to vote on the approval of legislation in congress - and no vote on the presidency. Would you vote for Britain to join? You'd join the most powerful economy in the world.
>>75689904
You Brits better not fuck the referendum up.
>>75695174
By the way, have any of you read Robert Skidelsky's biography of Mosley? I picked it up at a second hand bookshop a while back, and it's a thick old book. I've not read an awful lot of it though, I've been rather too preoccupied. Any thoughts from anyone who has read it?
>>75695450
That was not the Mosley picture I wanted
>>75694814
>>75694812
Well we have can veto it on the European council, but Cameron won't. Im just concerned that if we have to negotiate a deal outside of the EU we'll end up with an even more draconian version.
What recourse is there to revoke it? It seems like any atempt to revoke it would end with the government getting sued by everyone.
>>75695355
At the local Chinese, or as they call it, [spoiler]home[/spoiler]
>>75695441
Do you have any weed?
>>75695555
>we can veto it
N I C E M E M E
can't sue the government anyway, parliamentary sovreignty
>>75695441
Jamaica rejoining the Empire when?
>>75695314
>>75695450
I haven't read it but my father tells me it's a great read, an actual unbiased book on Mosley, his motivations and aims
>>75695743
When you start behaving like an Empire again.
>>75695403
> Would you vote for Britain to join? You'd join the most powerful economy in the world.
Pretty good argument Norbro. I think a referendum on becoming the 51st state under those circumstances would get 0% approval. Pretty much what the EU is asking of us.
Burger here. Can someone explain why Brexit is so great?
>>75696074
Good to hear. From what I understand it doesn't shy away from criticism where criticism is due, or at least allows the facts to speak for themselves so that people might judge, but on the whole gives a fairly positive image of him.
>>75695655
We can, we won't because the current government is pro TTIP, but the option is there. Romania is vetoing CETA, the eu-canada version, and slowing it down.
And I'm not sure your familiar with TTIP, it will allow corporations to sue governments for loss of earnings caused by legislations.
>>75696448
Yes, but you still can't stop the government repealing something like TTIP no matter how much you want to sue them
>>75696179
>>75695403
reminder
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/08/26/if-the-uk-was-a-u-s-state-it-would-be-the-second-poorest-behind-alabama-and-before-mississippi/
>>75696423
The Jewish author was branded anti-semitic by the media once he released the book, take from that what you will
>>75696178
Yes Jamaica
>>75696178
Also hows the bobsled team? Is John candy still the team leader?
>>75696561
Do the maths and you'll understand how preposterous the statement is.
The UK's economy is around 8 times smaller than the US'. The US has 50 states. Surely there is more than one state that's poorer than us.
>>75696754
He probably means per-capita
>>75695403
>Norway doesn't have the 5th largest economy in the world. The UK will secure a deal unlike any struck by Norway, Switzerland or Canada.
The UK has the 5th largest economy in the world because of the EU. And no, it does not get some super special trade deals because it's the UK, the rules and principles of international trade don't cease to exist just because it's the UK.
>You're saying these politicians might completely ignore the industrial voice of their nations, because reasons. It's ridiculous. In this instance, being a service economy makes you very powerful.
There is no guarantee that politicians and industrial leaders wouldn't adopt a strategy which they perceive could grant them more benefit at the cost of the UK. You're thinking on the basis that the only viable option for the EU is tariff free trade with the UK; it isn't.
>The end game of the EU is federalisation.
No it isn't.
>If the Americans offered Britain a chance to become the 51st state, but you get no power to propose legislation, only to vote on the approval of legislation in congress - and no vote on the presidency. Would you vote for Britain to join? You'd join the most powerful economy in the world.
The UK has a commissioner, and the people of the UK could petition the Commission to propose legislation. That is a patently false comparison.
What's the first song you listen to when the leave vote is announced?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M02bAWDFkI
>>75696967
So you're just going to outright lie then. Back to Brussels with you, bloodsucker.
>>75696967
>End game of the EU isn't federalisation
>Founding father of the EU said the end goal is federalisation
>Juncker says end goal is federalisation
>literally lying to try and justify your vote
if you know what you're saying is untrue, why are you saying it? why are you voting for what you know is wrong?
>>75689904
Reminder that ISIS wants you to leave
Reminder that if you vote leave you are a racist
Reminder that if you vote leave it will literally start world war 3
>>75696967
>pop into brit/pol/ to see what arguments the leftists are trotting out today
>it's the same ones posted every day and that are also crushed every day
guess i'm off again, you're like a broken record. i don't need to hang around to see how this will end
>>75697085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVkTmnJkAN8
>>75696967
>The end game of the EU is federalisation.
>No it isn't.
>>75696867
I see, and yet Britain beats them in soft power, which matters more than military might in this day and age. I really don't think Americans understand how humiliating that source is, since it proves that they have all the necessary tools to become omnipotent, yet they seem to fail to bring themselves to reach that level of power.
>>75697085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVzBcIXJXTo
>>75696967
> The UK has the 5th largest economy in the world because of the EU. And no, it does not get some super special trade deals because it's the UK, the rules and principles of international trade don't cease to exist just because it's the UK.
Then why did the UK have the 5th largest economy in the world in 1972, the year before it joined the EEC?
> There is no guarantee that politicians and industrial leaders wouldn't adopt a strategy which they perceive could grant them more benefit at the cost of the UK. You're thinking on the basis that the only viable option for the EU is tariff free trade with the UK; it isn't.
YES IT IS because of how the EU functions. It's laborious and clumsy. That's why the EU has fewer trade agreements than both Switzerland and Norway. They need to find terms that all nation states agree with. Whereas we outcasts agree terms that work for us and our trading partners. Do you think the UK would benefit more from a trade agreement with the EU or the US and China combined? It could have all three independently, like us.
>
The UK has a commissioner, and the people of the UK could petition the Commission to propose legislation.
I think you need to understand how the commission works.
> The European Commission is the EU's executive body. It represents the interests of the European Union as a whole (not the interests of individual countries).
>http://ec.europa.eu/about/index_en.htm
>>75696506
But legislation to repeal TTIP could be grounds to sue the government.
Anyway, its ridiculous that we're arguing about repealing something that isn't even passed yet. I assume we can both agree that TTIP is bad for the UK? My concern is that it will get even worse if we leave the EU. The EU version will be more moderate than anything Cameron or Boris will negotiate for. And Brussels burocratic mess could slow it down long enough for us to elect a government who's against it.
>>75697478
I thought Jamaica hated Britain?
>>75696967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM2Ql3wOGcU
>>75697714
Difference is we can actually get a say in what our government negotiates with protests, petitions etc.
We might be governed by cunts but they're elected cunts we can influence, unlike the EU, who are just cunts.
>>75696178
Don't worry, we're on it
>>75697763
They like us more than 'Canadians'.
>>75697895
I went down there and they were pretty nice to me.
>>75696967
Hello we are an island trading nation in the South Pacific who don't need no Euro.
>>75697949
Shit. I meant that Jamaicans like Britain more than the 'Canadians' like Britain. Of course they'd like a real Canadian.
What happens to all the foreigners who are in Britain if we leave?
>>75698197
I'm subservient to the Crown.
>>75697085
Easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZTb8WxEW78
Imagine the scene
>Dimbleby announces LEAVE victory
>song begins playing
>birds begin chirping
>sun begins rising
>Britain is Great Britain again
>>75698249
They will stay if they have citizenship but it will be hard to kick out the ones who don't.
>>75698249
Probably given visas if they have stable jobs
>>75698249
There's a 2 year grace period in the treaties. All EU citizens retain their rights in the UK during that period. After that, worst case is they have to meet visa requirements.
>>75697134
What's the lie?
>>75697187
>>75697250
>>75697298
Firstly, just because some people say it is, that doesn't mean it's the case, and the will of the member states would also support this.
Secondly, it would require explicit consent from all member states on a national parliamentary level; if the British people didn't want it, they could just say no anyway, though as I say, it will never get to the point where federalization is seriously on the table.
But I'm sure you'll show me some quotes from a handful of individuals which somehow factualize this, and of course because the EU is ruled by Emperor Juncker and the evil EU commission, they'll just pass it clean through and we'll be powerless to stop it! oh no!
>>75697625
>Then why did the UK have the 5th largest economy in the world in 1972, the year before it joined the EEC?
Global economic relativity in the years following WW2 isn't a valid indicator that the present day UK would benefit from leaving the EU.
>That's why the EU has fewer trade agreements than both Switzerland and Norway.
the number of trade agreements is immaterial, only their value is relevant, and those made by the EU, thanks to the huge single market, are of high value.
>I think you need to understand how the commission works.
I understand how it works in principle, but if you sincerely believe these people are in no way influenced by domestic politics then you are simply wrong. And that still doesn't counter the point that the British people could petition the EU commission to propose legislation.
>>75697773
yes, the EU is much like the USSR. What a valid comparison.
Anyway lads I must be off to bed, but ciao for now my European friends ;)
>>75698455
>>75698520
>>75698656
I was hoping for mass kebab removal, but thank you
>>75697864
The thing is in relation to TTIP I dont think we can influence them, its been going through with as little fuss as possible and the media barely reports on it. The government really wholeheartedly supports it and its way too comprehensive for protests and petitions to be able to significantly change it. If the government could they would pass it through as is today.
But other EU governments are against parts of it, and they have the ability to force it to be changed. We didn't elect them but they're protecting our interests from our current government.
>>75698407
This. This is a good choice.
>>75698759
We on the other hand will have a mass removal soon so look forward to that.
>>75698759
The gypsies and beggers will have to fuck off at least, and kebabs aren't usually from the EU
>>75697365
LAAAAADS
GET IN HERE
TWITTER IS TRENDING WITH ANTI-EU, PRO-FREE SPEECH, ANTI-JEW HASHTAG
THREADS BEING SLID
Well, I promised an update. And fuck, it turns out that a kilometre of bunting is a lot. I'm gonna need a bigger rucksack to hold it all on the night. I'll probably need to do two trips at this rate.
>>75698759
You know the EU immigrants are mostly white European right? Just who do you count as kebab? We don't have significant amounts of Muslim imigrants from the EU.
Anyway 1969 Vienna convention article 70b, EU immigrants in the UK have acquired rights to live in the UK and leaving the EU can't strip them of that right.
>>75689904
good to see brit /pol/ making a comeback
>>75699048
Of course you can you just pass a law that will legalise their deportation.
>>75699018
god speed you patriot
>>75698766
We're getting TTIP regardless of being in the EU and regardless of who we elect out of our choices
It's being pushed by people that will absolutely get their way so that's not even a factor to me - it's just frustrating to dwell on it as there's nothing we can do
>>75699018
Hero.
>Guard that sacred flame my brother Blackshirts until it illumines Britain and lights again the path of mankind. Together in Britain we have lit a flame that cannot and shall not extinguish.
>>75698712
> Global economic relativity in the years following WW2 isn't a valid indicator that the present day UK would benefit from leaving the EU.
> WW2
> Literally a generation after.
The UK has been an economic powerhouse for the entire millennium. It's utterly absurd to suggest that's been entirely dependent on their 30 year membership of the EU.
> the number of trade agreements is immaterial, only their value is relevant, and those made by the EU, thanks to the huge single market, are of high value.
> the number of trade agreements is immaterial, only their value is relevant, and those made by the EU, thanks to the huge single market, are of high value.
You haven't actually refuted my point that the UK won't leave the single market. You have this fantasy in your mind that the powerhouse states in the EU are going to fuck their own economies by imposing tariffs on the UK for political reasons. The first time in capitalist history politicians haven't been cucked to big business is this political event.
EVEN IF they did that. The UK is a buyer market. Your "exports" are services, particularly legal and financial. These aren't affected in the same way as cars.
> I understand how it works in principle, but if you sincerely believe these people are in no way influenced by domestic politics then you are simply wrong. And that still doesn't counter the point that the British people could petition the EU commission to propose legislation.
That's how it works. It's illegal under the treaties for commissioners to work in the interest of their home states.
At this point I'm beginning to think you're a shill. Your arguments started out reasonable, but they've devolved into blind devotion to cucking yourself. No ordinary citizen thinks that's a good idea. So thanks for the discussion, I hope at least that our exchange has helped third parties make a decision.
>>75699197
You're joking right? You're on /pol/, you must have some basic grasp of politics and international law?
Shall we just pass a law that makes the floor lava while we're at it, or a law that makes fucking sheep not weird anymore?
>>75699554
Nice goal posts do you shift them often?
>>75699309
Yeah you're right, only possible way out is if a brexit triggers a vote of no confidence followed by a general election that corbyn somehow wins. Better get down the bookies, gotta be some Leicester city odds on that happening.
>>75699762
>only possible way out is if a brexit triggers a vote of no confidence followed by a general election that corbyn somehow wins
Or the Green Party :^)
>>75697085
Dancing with myself
Billy idol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wGxDsaTHjrQ
>>75697085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJqimlFcJsM
>>75699714
The goalposts are firmly in place frodo, we can't just pass a law that violates a treaty we've signed.
>>75700064
Of course you can don't be stupid everything has a beginning and an end or you wouldn''t be leaving the EU.
>>75700006
This is objectively the best choice
>BRITAINS COMING HOME
BRITAINS COMING HOME
>BRITAINS COMING HOME
>>75697298
Let us never forget to remember
The Union for the Mediterranean
The Union you pay for but have never heard of. That has its own universities and a hq in Barcelona
That has a muslim Secretary General.
Handy that a crisis has happened in nearly every muslim member state in the club, driving their population into ours perfect for those who can't live without greater cultural integration.
Despite civil war,isis and governmental removal with bombing campaigns it still hasn't quite made it onto the news.
http://ufmsecretariat.org/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_for_the_Mediterranean
>>75699762
Corbyn won't do anything against TTIP, he's already shown that he has to compromise on his 'anti-new labour' views to remain leader and I highly doubt that TTIP is the thing he would dig his feet in over and jeopardise his position and labour's government
>>75699004
STOP IGNORING THIS YOU SCOFFING NORMIE COWARDS
>>75700208
You can't just violate international treaties because 'everything has an end'
What a stupid post
>>75691070
I know muslims who eat bacon, drink, generally have a laugh.
The best muslims are the worst at being muslims.
>>75699004
Noice
Sprinkle in some borders morris dancers to muddy the waters. It'll send the leftists into spasms
>>75700006
Whoever made the new kits should be strung up. White/Blue/White and Red/White/Red.
Bumping to prevent this thread going RIP
>>75700481
>You can't just violate international treaties because 'everything has an end'
Yes, you can.
>>75702088
>no concept of politics
>comes and shits up /pol/ anyway
If you're going to be so obstinaltey stupid can you go and be dumb in a black people or sjw thread
