The Man Who Wrote The Gulag Archipelago on the Jews and the destruction of the Russian People
>Solzhenitsyn spent roughly ten years toward the end of his life researching and writing a monumental and definitive work entitled 200 Years Together: A History of the Russians and the Jews. Published in the original Russian in 2002, the book was received with a firestorm of rage and denunciation from the literary and media world, from the Jews, and from almost the entire intelligentsia of the established order in the West.
http://downwithjugears.blogspot.com/
Soviet Jews were behind the Holodomor. That is 20 million dead Ukrainians.
>>75683084
>ukrainians
no such thing
Any full English translation yet? Would be genuinely interested.
>>75685233
Seconded
>>75685233
It would be a fascinating read.
Solzhenitsyn was truly a free mind.
>>75685233
Wouldn't you know it, this is the only work of Solzhenitsyn's to not be translated into English and receive major critical and publishing attention. There is a sort of crowdsourced project but it's still ongoing.
>>75685233
Thirded. I loved Ivan Denisovich.
>>75683084
Holodomor deaths were like a couple of million and half of them were Southern Russians. Nice wigger propaganda though.
>>75685382
HAHA, GO FIGURE!
truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
>>75683084
Funny thing is that he's an icon for modern Russian liberals who are (90% of them) Jewish
Soljenitsin? The Nobel prize winner out of Stalin's USSR?
He seemed like he's chasing hype for fame, but not gonna say anything before reading this piece.
Also cancer sucks.
>>75685599
i thought the russian jews moved to israel
>>75683084
Cancer Ward was my favourite. Ivan Denisovich was great as well.
Solzhenitsyn was a wonderful man. I find it terrible how the soviet media dogs ripped into him. They are the same as the media today. Have we learned nothing?
>>75685599
Yes and no. They want to have him as a critic of Soviet outrages (Modern Russians have not gone through a "deNazification" process and continue to under-discuss and censor Soviet history), but his TV show was pretty unpopular considering his stature.
>>75685779
Know why?
Because he said German tanks were better.
And as you can observe on /k/ every summer, that censorious, vodka-fuelled spirit lives on.
>>75683084
>20 million dead Ukrainians
Typo: 2000 billion.
>>75685778
Worst of them stayed
>>75686009
i thought it was more the whole exposure of soviet atrocities thing
>>75686126
The number 20 million is on the archives. When krushchev made this allegation to the Jew Lazar Kaganovich, he didn't deny, he simoly said " your hands are not clean, either."
That's fsctual, despite what you kike apologists claim.
>>75683084
>That is 20 million dead Ukrainians.
Last time it was only 7
week ago it was 3.
Stop
>>75685748
Chasing hype for fame? What do you mean? He just wrote semi-autobiographical accounts of the communist shithole he lived in.
>>75686607
see
>>75686526
>>75686526
What kind of a soulless, evil people can starve a country to death?
>>75686526
> invent the term "Ukrainian" in early 20s
> draw an arbitrary border for them which takes most of the fertile land in the country
> call every Russian in that territory a Ukrainian from now on
> be Georgian and a pack of Jews
> "create" hunger
OY VEY EVIL RUSSIANS ARE ON THE KILLING SPREE AGAIN
>>75686745
I'm trying to be objective, mate. Sartre and others propped him a bit, no doubt. Thoroughly enjoyed Cancer Ward though.
>>75683084
He admitted that it was mainly the Russians who imposed bolshevism on themselves. Without the support of russian troops, bolsheviks wouldn't do as much as they did
You're picking words out of context and manipulating
A polish weekly last week addressed the issue of "jewish-bolshevism" and the author of the text referred to Solzhenitsyn's book "200 years together". You're spreading lies, read something more than merely some fucking blog you moron
>>75686759
>evil people
People have nothing to do with that.
Its fucking weather.
>>75687072
Communists killed all the farmers, and the rest didn't know how agriculture works. So no food was produced. It was not the Russian's who did that, you therefore do not have to deny it.
>muh weather
>>75687517
that typo tho
>>75687059
>http://downwithjugears.blogspot.com/
You know damn well that A.S. wrote a true and scholarly account that rips Russian Jewry a new asshole.
For start, I read that book, and no, the narrative isn't ''evil kikes'', because Solzhenitsyn wasn't a rabid low IQ anti-Semite like /pol/tards.
In fact he outright states that the idea of Jewish revolution is total idiocy, though he also criticizes those Jews who supported it.
Solzhenitsyn also often operated on false data, even though many of his conclusions are right.
Solzhenitsyn being arguably a Russian nationalist almost certainly doesn't consider Ukrainians a real nation.
20 million Ukrainians certainly didn't die, nor did only Ukrainians die. Holodomor is an Ukrainian invention to give them another myth of how terribly they suffered under Russian rule. Because Georgian communist and his Jewish henchman are personification of Russian nation apparently. And finally, it was a fucking failure of agriculture due to collectivization. Criminal move but certainly not a planned genocide.
Your thread is awfully dumb and superficial and honestly just hang yourself you dumb moron.
>>75687585
But he wrote precisely that bolshevism wasn't initiated by the Jews and wasn't imposed by the Jews
>>75687517
>Communists killed all the farmers
Are you legit retard?
>>75685484
Thats more than the holohoax
>>75687059
Are you a jew, dishonest, or stupid? In parts, he does blame the Russians for not fighting back and slaughtering the jews.
But his numbers-- 70%+ of the cheka Jews in a nation where they were 1/2 of 1%-- are also clear.
How would you expect average person here to read when the jews won't allow an official translation? Only english version are a few chapters done by dr. kevin macdonald and others for occidental observer.
Why are the jews (all top 11 publishers Jewish) not allowing a translation if it is as you say? I can read Russian, jew. You are a liar.
>>75683084
>Gulag Archipelago
Nice fairy tales. There are plenty of interviews with former incarcerated actual criminals that were in Gulag and they laugh at the numbers and supposed atrocities invented by him.
There's a reason he received a Nobel Prize by CIA during the Cold War for his great subversive work.
>20 million dead Ukrainians
>Russian Empire census
>Ukraine 23,430,407 (from this Crimea 1,447,790 that wasn't a part of Ukraine during the famine)
Damn, it must have become depopulated as fuck. Never forget the 200 millions.
>>75687662
>20 million Ukrainians certainly didn't die
Lazat Kaganovich admitted this number of dead. Everyone here claims to be a scholar but. none of you know anything.
>>75685233
It was never translated into english.
>>75683084
The Holodomor is a meme though. I can only assume that someone who writes a book about it is full of shit.
>>75687758
He's was a retard what actually happened is communist policy made it so any food the Ukrainians grew technically wasn't theirs. The farmers got their grain stolen and then they had to dig for mice nests to find some grain.
>>75687662
>anti-semites are low iq dunces
lol, right, hence, all of the great minds in history who have hated jews.
>>75683084
REMEMBER THE 20 GORILLION!
where are the bodies, goy? where are the mass graves? show me death certificates. where did the 20 million number come from? Do Ukrainian almanachs take this demographic change into consideration?
You dont ask any such questions and just gobble it up as indisputable fact but sure ask them for the holocaust.
>>75688050
>>75688050
The Holodomor is real history. If it has become a meme, that is subsequent to the real starvation order perpetrated by Jews at many levels of Soviet power and influence.
>>75686526
I like how selective you westerners are when it comes to source credibility. For example when someone is telling you that USSR's casualties in WWII were more or less the same as that of Germany (and that's on the archive!) you start calling it bullshit and soviet propaganda muh 50 millions of cannon fodder an so on. In case of golodomor (why everyone is spelling it like HOLODOMOR btw) you gladly accept the same archives as a trusted source.
Also I like how it's almost unknown that fucking peasants just didn't want to give part of their harvest to commies and would rather burn it or let it rot in the field.
Holy shit this thread got jewy fast!
>blaming the jew
russia fucked itself.
>>75687934
[citation needed]
I thought you don't trust Jews? Or only when it's convenient?
>Similar policies also inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan, the Kuban region, Crimea, the lower Volga region, and other parts of the Soviet Union.
So how is this only about Ukrainians again?
>>75688075
Jew boy, no one has made 100 billion dollars from this to set up an illegal state on arab land and to keep milking the West.
Kike, what would be the motivation to lie? your entire state and existence is based on your holyco$t parasitism. No one is going to givr ukranians anything.
>>75687934
Where? In some blog?
>>75688067
Great minds in history were often idiots outside of their narrow area.
History deals on facts, not hearsay.
Also, in that time, information was far harder to reach so conspiracies made far more sense.
Today, you have no fucking excuse, you're just being retarded.
And I'm honestly disgusted at how you apes use Solzhenitsyn as a tool for your idiotic conspiracies and delusions.
>>75688374
Kind of like the Jews in that cyber HQ in Israel all got on this thread.
And still the Jews are making no real sense.
>>75688336
I think Russian casualties in WW 2 are probably more than is commonly stated in the West and that they try to take credit for a war fought by russians.
True, they won for for the jews, but their crown has been the funeral wreath for all humanity and thr triumph of the jew.
>>75688504
You mean other than their entire national identity being based on "we wuz kangz until ruskie come and be oppressing us"? Holodomor Shoah is one of the cornerstones of their made up nation, just like Israel's.
>>75688724
Whoa buddy, you are too concerned about jews, that wasn't my point at all.
>>75688533
where? In the soviet archives that I was one of first people to see and translate as grad student at Berkley.
>>75688501
It isn't any about Ukraine but Ukrainians were the most affected. Kazakhstan is barely populated even today most of its farmland isn't in use. Crimea was considered Ukraine until 2014. Volga and Kuban is common knowledge that it was affected. Only shitty politicians like Poroshenko(who has a really low a probaly rating in Ukraine) spout le ebil russians and not even as much as jews and leftists spout ebil whitez.
>>75688724
>war fought by russians
And won by American lend lease
>>75683084
> That is 20 million dead Ukrainians.
Ukrainians did not existed before korenization. That was 20 million dead Russians - freeing lebensraum to build ukraine and tatarstan on Russian bones.
>>75688977
You'll be kind to point me to that data.
>grad student
I can't believe a grad student who actually knows anything about Russian history could talk about ''Jewish revolution''.
To any sane and rational person knowing basics, it's pretty clear why did Jews participate in revolution, and data available indicates they weren't that over-represented as memes go.
Dude, not even Russian nationalists are as insane as you about Jewish conspiracies. Drop it. You're wrong. You're seeing history through Jew. Right now you're trying to validate Germans slaughtering and enslaving population left and right in Eastern Europe cause they ''fought the Jew''.
You're a fucking idiot m8. And probably of German ancestry.
>>75689320
Russian nationalists don't talk about holohoax and jews because it's illegal
>>75688981
Crimea was part of Russia before 1954.
>>75689081
Lend-Lease was 10% of Soviet war production.
Any more superb American historical memes?
You people are so fucking dumb yet so arrogant at the same time it's incredible.
>>75689320
>I can't believe a grad student who actually knows anything about Russian history could talk about ''Jewish revolution''.
You wouldn't believe a lot of things grad students and professors know but won't say publicly bc their endowments are based on big jewish money.
>>75689451
Yeah I'm sure you know a lot about this subject.
>>75689320
> To any interpellated individual this looks unacceptable.
You do not even know how memes work.
>>75688981
Well, then it's not an Ukrainian genocide by the very definition of the word, since the definition states that it must be aimed at one single group of people.
Crimea was considered Ukraine only since Ukrainian Khrushev gifted it to Ukraine in 1954. The famine was in 30s.
>Only shitty politicians like Poroshenko
Not really, see >>75688827 Poroshenko is simply trying to pander to nationalists. Those ideas or worse existed long before him and are perpetuated by different groups of people.
>>75689466
>You wouldn't believe a lot of things grad students and professors know but won't say publicly bc their endowments are based on big jewish money.
This is actually a heartening post somehow.
At least they know the truth of Jewry.
The
Goyim
Know
Shut
It
Down
>>75689466
And I can't believe you still didn't provide me with data.
And I can't believe you people have no idea how were Jews treated by Tsarist regime before revolution.
And I can't believe you can't understand that those Bolshevik Jews were mostly peasants and factory workers, not some loan-sharks and rich people.
Yeah, why would peasant Jew, persecuted by the regime and even ordinary people, support an ideology that stated everyone is equal and what not and was opposed to Tsar who they saw as their main oppressor?
Has to be a conspiracy.
>>75689784
If you are serious and you know Russian, the information is there. I'm not your baby sitter, and no one believes anything on this site anyway (with good reason).
The information is there for people who want it.
>>75689456
Crimea is generalized with Ukraine I mean.
The Americans gave russians trucks which saved the logistical problem (aka the reason Germans lost). Before America helped russians used horses and other primitive methods like the Germans did which can only support a logistical system for a short amount of time. The Germans used horses because their doctrine called for a quick war. Russians used them because they're poor.
>>75689784
Dem commies were all Jews I tell you.
>>75689784
>And I can't believe you can't understand that those Bolshevik Jews were mostly peasants and factory workers, not some loan-sharks and rich people.
Jews were exempt from just about any decree that would take away their status/posession bc they were classified as an " historically opressed minority."
Kohen and Loeb didn't fund the Bolsheviks out of their desire to see the Russian peasants advance. The funded it to assist their fellow Jews.
>>75684912
This is my favorite polish poster. He always causes so much butthurt with this comment.
>>75690225
And to get back at the Tsar. Jews obviously hated Tsar.
Later, those same Jews were raped by Stalin. How the fuck can we talk about ''Jewish USSR''?
Do you think they sacrificed themselves intentionally? What is this madness?
>>75689933
If you can't provide any data, then it's pointless to talk with you.
>>75690051
There it is. Latvians were pretty enthusiastic about communism. Funny how they ignore it now. It was de ebil Russns n joos
>>75685233
It has been attempted many times, but has been stopped by powerful forces every time.
Btw, don't you baltic niggers speak russian?
>>75690417
lol, indeed. There it is. And trotsky's real name was not bronstein.
>>75685233
Shouldn't you be able to read Russian, tiblad?
>>75689451
Questioning holocaust is not a major topic in Russia, just like the word "nigger". Because they did things much worse, than reich did to them in the most disturbing tales about lampshades.
As in
> killing all educated Russian people
> killing all Russian peasants, who could sustain a farm
> gassing the whole rebelled Russian cities
> killing thousands of Russian hostages - wifes, children and mothers of Russian white officers and privates, because undiscovered individual attempted to kill local jew kommisar
> starving 10+million people to death while selling the food to buy scrap metal from rosevelt on his "new deal" or like they call it here "stalins industrialisation" > buying the same, but functional equipment during the lend-lease.
Prior to this Russian have never seen such violence, such terror. We where peaceful people. Our internal "colonies" did not payed taxes. They where just not allowed to governmental services until they start to serve the empire and stop their local degenerate systems. Basically they where only deprived the right for war. And this worked well. All people whitened in generations, became christians, etc. This was an utopia, made by brilliant politics of saint Russian Emperor.
Anglos could not live with that.
They funded jews to create bolshevism, they funded ottomans, they cheated and intrigued until the major part of the establishment betrayed Russia during the Great War and made the state weak enough for bolsheviks and their mercenaries to wage terror of quality not seen before in Russia and of scale not seen before in Europe.
>>75686421
Or perhaps it was the exposure of certain (((people))) within the soviet government who kept doing things that your regular person just wouldn't agree with.
>>75690051
break it down by leadership rank and ethnicity/religion
>>75691584
>The evidence establishes that the Jewish communists are very dogmatic and many of them fanatical and vindictive. They have been among the greatest persecutors of their own race who were not communists. The testimony seemed to be incontestable that it was the Jewish communists of Minsk who enforced the order of confiscation of the beautiful Jewish synagogue and its conversion into a Bolshevik clubhouse; and equally credible evidence established that some of the local communist Jews in the Ukraine were instrumental in procuring the order for the closing of 70 synagogues. And the same Jewish communists in the Ukraine are largely responsible for the persecution of the Zionists and other members of the Jewish race. They were the most zealous in preventing the teaching of the Hebrew language and in the closing of Hebrew schools and the banishment to the icebound coasts of the Arctic Ocean of a large number of God-fearing and high-minded Jews, whose only offense was their belief in the faith of their fathers and their desire to maintain that faith and to expound it in the Hebrew tongue and to keep alive a love for the land which David trod, a land which will ever remain sacred to those who appreciate the contributions that Judaism has made to the civilization and progress of the world.
>Theoretically communism ignores races or nationality, but, as indicated, even with communists in Russia, the traditions, as well as the racial prejudices, which have existed for centuries, influence the conduct of Bolsheviks toward the Jews. Undoubtedly leading officials and some sincere and consistent communists struggle against this prejudice, and they have been instrumental in a number of instances in preventing anti-Jewish manifestations, which might have culminated in pogroms of more or less severity.
www DOT stormfront DOT org/forum/t990647/
>>75693201
What does this forum post say, anon?
>>75686759
Stalin was a douchebag, the kulaks didn't want to give up their produce, Stalin used starvation against kulak-heavy regions, droughts happened, and Stalin conveniently saw the now-stolen food as useful to feed factory workers. It was a complex issue.
>>75687517
Are you blind? The farmers died AFTER the food was stolen.
>>75687662
Good post.
>>75685484
what, letting an entire country to starve for 2 years only kills a couple of millions?
>>75687788
>half of 1%
That's bullshit. The Russian Empire and early USSR had one of the largest Jewish populations in the world. Especially in Western regions, it was 10%+ before the Holocaust. The Jews also happened to be one of the most persecuted groups under the Tsar. Hence the large number of Jewish revolutionaries.
>>75692381
Socialism, and more basically they idea of total and absolute equality, doesn't ignore race or religion or any identity or value for that matter; it denies their value and importance, it therefor must destroy them.
The first half of your post was very interesting to read, Jews crashing down on the snyagogue and banning their own language in the great dawn of socialist revolutionary nothingness. Before it got to "OY VEY! Those antisemites are at it again!"
>>75694327
Not sure why organized Jewry is denying the facts of the Holodomor.
They are 1000 times more believable than the holohoax.
>>75683084
>Holodomor
Is this bait? Mentioning it is a reliable way to turn any thread into a shitstorm.
That being said, main victims of that particular hunger strike were actually Russians and Kazakhs. We just didn't turn it into national ideology.
Also, it seems like some people don't understand Stalin's intentions >>75693869
Check Collectivization and Industrialization. Tl;dr: commies forced peasants into kolkhozes and took away most of their harvest to sell it to other countries to finance giant-ass constructions that nobody needed.
>>75691171
I sort of second that.
>>75683084
Just look at that Russian face and tell me they are not mixed with Mongols.
>>75697607
>mother is Ukrainian, father from Caucasus
>those damn Eastern Mongols, at least Ukraine is a pure European country
>>75698277
He's Mongol.
>>75697528
>victims of that particular hunger strike
>hunger strike
>>75694449
>The Jews also happened to be one of the most persecuted groups under the Tsar. Hence the large number of Jewish revolutionaries.
That's sort of a chicken-egg problem.
>>75699268
Sry. I meant famine, of course.
this sucks debating about this for me
my great grandparents lived through the golodomor, and they would tell me stories about bodies on the streets etc in central-eastern ukrainian region.
yet at the same time, I know the bastard ukrainian nationalists hijacked an actual human devastation that my ancestors lived through, and instituted a state politicized mythology surrounding it.
it's fucked up and it makes me pissed off to have to "set the record straight" and diminish the effects about events that affected my ancestors.
>>75685233
>>75685283
Here it is in English: http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/downloads/Gulag1.pdf
>>75690417
can u pls b my gf
pls respond
>>75685382
>Wouldn't you know it
LOL.
>>75685382
>has been translated into French
hmm, I'll keep my eyes open
>>75701711
R A R E
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http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/200%20YEARS.pdf
>>75701457
he meant a translation of two hundred years together
i saw a mostly complete amateur collaboration on trs forums a few months ago but the site crashed and i didn't bookmark/save it and i don't go back there anymore due to all the faggotry and e-celeb bullshit
>>75688336
they spell it hoholmordor due to hohol transliteration conventions since they're the only people who make a big deal about it
>>75703520
I posted links upthread, somewhere before the dozenth comment.
>>75703722
dóh, thanks bro i'll check it out
>>75685233
He выeбывaйcя и читaй нa pyccкoм.
Ukrainian descendant here.
Can I start using "muh 20 million" as an excuse for everything?
>>75683084
I hope you are aware that western Ukrainians (were my family is from, Lviv) was part of Polish territory till the 30's. No one in that area starved. All eastern Ukrainians starved, and these are the same people Ukrainian government is now bombing.
So shove your bullshit.
>>75688533
>History deals on facts, not hearsay.
Every historian will give you a funny look if you say that in front of them.
>>75704053
Ask you family what does Ukraine and Ukrainian mean.
