>Donald Trump can add another endorsement to his growing list: official North Korean state media outlet DPRK Today.
>“Trump said ‘he will not get involved in the war between the South and the North,’ isn’t this fortunate from North Koreans’ perspective?”
>"The day when the ‘Yankee Go Home’ slogan becomes real would be the day of Korean Unification.”
Trump wants to:
>Leave NATO
>Abandon Europe and leave them at the mercy of Russia
>Abandon South Korea and allow North Korea to take over the south
>Start a trade war with China
>Attempt to bully Mexico
>Harm our domestic economy with tariffs that would accomplish nothing
This is the retard you morons support.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/north-korea-endorses-trump-223719#ixzz4AFifsKRx
>Allow NK to take over SK
Oh no! What are we going to do without our professional Starcraft players or imported League of Legend kek? We might even get some diversity in the scene.
>>75661241
>thinking Nk can take on Sk
Come on
I say it takes Sk 2 weeks to btfo Nk
>>75661461
You're advocating for the collapse of the entire global order that we know. That's fucking bullshit. Nobody wants that. We don't want an impoverished unified communist korea. We don't want to just sit back and let Russia take huge chunks of Europe. We don't want a trade war with China.
You people are fucking RETARDED.
>>75661461
Go back to copper league and you won't have to play against them. I for one like my Korean phones and monitors.
>>75661241
i don't see a problem with any of this
literally any part at all. it's 100% fine
>>75661642
>We don't want to just sit back and let Russia take huge chunks of Europe. We don't want a trade war with China.
I want both of these things.
>>75661642
>nobody wants that
Are you kidding? The anarchists are all for Trump because of that. A lot of Trump supporters are so frustrated with the status quo that they're desperate enough to roll the dice on a new world order.
>>75661642
>You're advocating for the collapse of the entire global order that we know.
you mean the one supposedly run/subverted by jews that many say they want to see crash?
okay
>>75661642
Good. Fuck your global order. The world is rotting away. The advanced societies are being dragged down by savage countries and corruption.
It's about bloody time the people of this country - no, the world, remembers fear once more.
The poor NK bastards can't even feed themselves. How are they supposed to take on South Korea?
>>75661241
>http://www.politico.com
>>75661241
if he tries and succeeds, we're better off as a country.
if he tries and fails, i've been waiting for the world to burn for a long time now
>>75661642
You're not very bright if you believe north korea is capable of taking on south korea.
You seem to be under the false belief that if America isnt there to change everyones diapers and play world nanny, the world would collapae.
If we leave NATO, the only thing that will happen is Europe will be forced to put on their big boy pants and pay for their own defense (and its not as if europeans dont have modern technology or militaries; they just dont fund them because of nanny America).
Same for south korea. Why the hell do we need to be patrolling the dmz and involving ourself in korean politics? Korea has F-16's and modern, well-trained, well-equipped army.
North Korea has impoverished, hungry soldiers using relics from the cold war and planes from WWII.
South Korea doesnt need our help.
>Expecting America to police the whole world
It's not America's job to fix up and take on everyone's war for them.
>>75661241
>STUPID UNEDUCATED AMERICA, STOP PLAYING WORLD POLICE REEEE. t. Yuopoorean socialst
>ok
>STUPID AMERICAN WHY YOU AREN'T YOUR PROTECTING US REEEEEE.t. Yuopoorean socialst
>NATIONALISM IS RACIST!!!!!
The only part I agree with OP on is tariffs.
Tariffs are a terrible economic policy. See: Smoot Hawley act, which triggered the great depression.
>>75661241
>being such a sad country that Russia's forces constitute a threat
No one to blame but yourselves.
It's actually pathetic.
>>75661461
EU>NA
Korean Pro= 4k Dota MMR.
Miracle = 2.25 Faker
>>75662247
Ebin edgepost XD
>>75662423
Europe has to end.
"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world" ... George Washington
>>75662452
>Smoot Hawley act, which triggered the great depression.
Completely false. The stock market crashed before that act was passed retard.
>>75662557
It's not 1787 anymore, retard. We live in a completely different world today.
>>75661241
Explain to me why SK deserves its freedom is another country has to pay for it.
>>75661241
If a major economy like South Korea can't defend themselves against a country frozen in time because of economic embargoes, they don't deserve to be a country.
>>75661642
I want a trade war with the entire world.
>>75662533
Fear is better then Miracle imho
He's been in a recent stump because of Bulba and retarded drafts from ppd but that man is amazing on every position and has been doing so consistently.
The safety of Israel is much more important than all these other countries.
Once we stop wasting money on them we'll be able to pour so much money into Israel it'll become a superpower by itself.
>>75662644
SK is going to be fine. It is perfectly capable of paying for and manning its own defense. Do you think S Koreans are weak or something? Do you think they lack economic or technological strength? Do you think they need the White Man to protect them indefinitely?
Gee, you're a pretty big racist.
>>75661642
Are you americans honestly retarded enough to believe russia wants to start war with EU?
>>75661241
>NK could defeat South Korea
>>75661642
You're not looking ahead.
Think about why he wants to back out of them. We're there for pretty much a community service. We're getting fucked on the ass economically.
If we back out and those countries are left vulnerable, what do you think will happen?
They're not going to sit there and get conquered. They'll start making deals with the US and treating their services fairly and we won't just be whoring ourselves out for free.
Nothing will change except that others will be forced to respect us and actually pay us for being their military.
Trump is entirely about making deals. This is part of making deals.
>>75661642
That's one of the main reasons I am voting for Trump. So the global world order is destroyed. Fuck them I hope the trade war with Mexico puts them so much farther into poverty it'll take 1000 years to recover from trumps fucking.
>>75662971
The only one who is going to get fucked is us.
South Korea will be fine without us. The US needs to stop supporting countries who don't want to ever try to support themselves.
>>75662829
Not that I mind Russia having more freedom and Europe actually having to get off their socialized asses and do something, but Russia wouldn't declare war against the entire EU, they'd just take a little bit at a time while the EU angrily shakes their fist with one hand and fingers their butthole with the other.
>>75662768
PPD is drafting retarded because he is willing to sacrifice every tourmanet win if we can win another TI. (I know le ebin saving le strarts meme)
>>75661241
>Abandon Europe and leave them at the mercy of Russia
Yes please Russia, invade every single nook and cranny
>>75663055
Fearmongering 101.
I've been reading and listening to quite a lot of geopolitical stuff and predictions, and here's their common conclusion:
>The USA is moving towards isolationism, with or without Trump.
>The unification of Korea is inevitable, better sooner than when NK perfects their nuclear capacity and a direct war with them to stop them would be impossible.
>Japan has started rearming and MUST rearm, so a rearming Korea(s) in response is only expected
>The USA actually no longer has the capacity to project power that far overseas, as carriers are both too costly and becoming outdated (google millennium challenge 2002, done 14 years ago)
>Europe will attempt to remilitarize against Russia, therefor NATO becomes useless and just a drag for the USA
>Turkey will unironically build carriers and might as well try to oppose the USA in the Middle East (they will try to establish Ottoman Dominance there), which makes NATO even more of a retarded concept
>When such instability happens all over the world, the best bet is to get away from it and stay neutral as long as possible, as happened in both world wars
So yeah, he pretty much got it. The only retarded move he'd make is alienate the USA from Mexico.
>>75663144
Sorry m8 but that's a well known parody account.
>>75661596
Not without our troops and equipment there.
If we closed all our bases and pulled out all our troops and equipment, NK would own the peninsula before the last plane left.
>>75662829
Russia will never start a shooting war for Europe. But a covert war, where they finance friendly movements that are anti-American and anti-liberal democracy? It's already happening in fucking France, let alone Eastern Europe.
>>75663072
This. This so much
>>75661241
Why isn't SK paying the USA for their protection and prosperity yet Samsung is beating the hell out of American companies. - Sad!
Kill all the gooks
>>75663187
I doubt that, since winning a major is bretty good payment in itself.
Also why doesn't EG just get an EU for hardlane?
Trixi would be way better then Bulbo.
>>75661642
Calm down. Sovereign nations having to prioritize a portion of their economies for their own defense will be a much more stable world order than the one we have now. Nation states are the most stable international entities. Empires, and multinational alliances are historically much less stable, and CONSTANTLY try to consume nation states, which then resist, and you have massive wars. The US needs to promote ethnically homogeneous nation states capable of their own defense, rather than create convoluted transnational entities.
This is what anti-imperalists and lefts have RIGHTLY understood at the basis for conflict in post-colonial Africa and the Middle East, but for some reason they resist the very kind of world order that is opposed to forcing arbitrary borders, and different ethnic groups together in unnatural alliances.
I think you're smart enough to understand this, but you're stuck in the 1960's.
>>75663248
>The only retarded move he'd make is alienate the USA from Mexico.
I say we just take Mexico. Honestly they'd benefit from the Constitution and the American Spirit.
Only the stronger shall survive. The crucible is open once more.
>>75661241
>Trump wants to:
>Leave NATO
Nice meme
>>75661241
>Abandon Europe and leave them at the mercy of Russia
It's not like Europe got nukes too...
Also, why do you even care about South Korea?
>>75661642
LOL
>>75662644
>It's not 1787 anymore, retard. We live in a completely different world today.
By that logic, we should also scrap the constitution.
>>75663412
Good post.
not defending americas trade = huge pussy
>>75662829
Russia never wants wars. She only wants her clay back, protect rights of Russian-speaking people, defeat fascism and terrorism. Wars - never. Check your pockets if you don't have aforementioned things in them you have nothing to fear.
>>75662138
This
>>75663442
This thinking is stupid. We dont live in the wild or by the rules of the wild you fucking caveman idiot
>>75663480
But that means they will have to invest in their military force.
Can you imagine all those social programs they will have to cut.
think on MUH WELLFARE
>>75663627
You sound like a bitch, that's the only reason you don't want natural order.
I will take the candidate who can hypothetically run this country into the ground over the candidate that will verifiably run this country and the planet into the ground.
>>75663585
And how much of Europe is Russian clay?
North Korea is Best Korea!
>>75663645
how could we afford to help the oh so poor and delightful refugees? What a tragedy
>>75662782
>>75663758
All of it
>>75661642
>all this terrible awful shit that's going to happen in not america
>hold on a moment
>not america
That's right.
Fuck the rest of the world.
Pay for your own shit and deal with your own problems or become another 3 pages in an elementary history book 50 years down the road.
Good now maybe American or European teams can win a fucking tournament. Fucking SKoreans.
>>75663713
>natural
You have a dumb notion of what that word means. I bet you believe in such a thing as "unnatural" too, you insecure retard.
>>75663169
They wouldn't even do that. Even if the entirety of Europe wouldn't declare war on them. Where do you get this idea that Russia I'd a big bad evil man who wants to control the world. Controlling all of Russia and Europe would be a fucking nightmare
>>75663412
Good idea but...
>what is WWI
>what is WWII
From small wars sovereign nations could protect (and from attacks of sub-state entities) but peace among nations is based on nuclear weapons and concept of MAD. Countries who don't have nukes or can't lean on ally with nukes are valid targets for attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gelCe981y0I
>>75663758
All of it, excluding france and Sicily
>>75662136
Listen to this burger
>>75663740
That's about where I'm at too. I fucking hate this election but, sadly, shillary is better than Trump as far as damage control. Trump would be a global disaster. Shillary would just be a national disaster. I'd rather take one for the team than bring everyone down with me
>>75663908
>Following LeL
>Not being part of the Dota Master race.
>>75661241
>north korea taking over south
north korea couldn't face fucking denmark in a war and win, i give them one week before their entire war machine crumbles, that and south korea have more friends than just usa
>>75661241
>a third world army of starving soldiers with poorly made weapons lead by someone who claims to have found a unicorn burial ground is a threat and therefore Trump must be stopped
>>75661241
>leave cucked people who hate you to their own devices
FUCKING GOOD. I wish we didn't share a border with them so my cucked country would be forced to grow a set of balls.
>>75663910
You're an unnatural level of retard, something that even the most well versed scientists failed to understand.
Can't wait for Trump to win, he'll make America great again.
K2 Black Panther vs Shitty T-62 copy
F-15K vs shitty Chinese copies of MiG-21 and MiG-19
ohhhh gee, NK really has a chance to take over SK
>>75663627
We do though, open your eyes.
>>75661241
> implying that the Norks would win with outdated Military weapons and tactics
Just put down a sign for an all you can eat buffet the Norks will eat themselves to death.
>>75663542
We don't have to "Scrap it". The constitution is a living document. Do we need new amendments? Absolutely, yes!
>>75664066
No no I'm talking about trump. I'm voting for trump. Sorry bro.
>>75661241
>stop policing the world
>spending millions on global dick waving and proxy wars
>leaving eurocucks to wallow in their own filth
>telling Mexico to fuck off and stop leeching off us
>squeezing chinas balls in a trade war, taking back out production economy and eliminate destructive communism and a world power that threatens us
Based, based and more based. I have no problem with this.
>implying NK could do anything to SK.
>minute they cross the war all soldiers would defect or get destroyed.
>NK has HALF the GDP of the state of New Hampshire.
>>75661241
We are not the world's police force.
If Japan, South Korea, and Europe wish for eternal protection by the USA, they should apply for statehood or annexation.
>>75661642
I WANT THAT NOW
>>75661642
>the US needs to police the world
Lmao we just need to act in our own best interests, fuck NATO and South Korea
>>75661241
>neocon damage control
The butt hurt tears of the repackaged progressives is almost too sweet to enjoy. Almost.
Paleoconservatism is back babby!
>>75664216
Oh god, this.
>>75663604
Maybe that's the point?
>>75661241
This is the first time I've disagreed with Trump actually. We cannot abandon Asia right now while China is building up and training to take out smaller nations and allies. Pic is of PLA training to raid Taiwan's presidential palace with a full size replica.
>>75664216
This or at the very least fucking PAY for it.
>>75664206
Making the whole world poorer and less stable can't have any long-term consequences, nope
>>75664121
No we fucking dont. We've bent the rules of the wild so much in our favor, that we live in a world called "industry". There is a huge difference between domestic and wild.
>>75661642
>silence me
>steal from me
>destroy any decent culture
>what are you doing goy why don't u like me?!
>>75661596
North Korea has the largest army in the world. The only reason they can't beat us is because we're better equipped.
>>75661241
Remind me how is a conflict between two nations thousands of miles away from us our problem again.
>>75664216
>annex japan
Instead of dropping another nuke, we just flew weebs over. Japan is kill
>>75661241
Trump want's south korea to pay for the defense we give them
he doesn't want to just abandon them.
>>75663295
I don't think you comprehend how rich and developed South Korea is compared to Best Korea.
>>75661241
>Thinking based south Korea cant finish a what against weak and sad north Korea
>Being this fucking blind on what's going on in the world
>Get off my pol you fucking commie flower picker
>>75663302
you do the same in russia ameribro
>>75661642
>the collapse of the entire global order that we know.
fuck off shlongberg
>>75664402
Like i give a fuck about the rest of the world. Europe can wallow in its own filth, asia can fuck off. The rest of the world sucks on americas tits constantly. Let them deal with it themselves. Denying china our trade and preferred status is also a good way to cut up that paper tiger. China is in shambles, the only thing that holds them up is constant growth and America buying from them. Fuck them economically and they fall back to something like india. A third world over populated shit hole.
>>75662423
this. i wish these flip -flopping tards would kill themselves
This thread is retarded
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=North-Korea&country2=South-Korea&Submit=Compare+Countries
South korea has a bigger airforce, a bigger navy, a army of roughly the same size and that isn't teetering on malnourishment, have more people fit for service and twice as many people reaching old enough for service each year.
Litterally the only advantage the norks have is their artillery and their nukes (which they won't use because it will destory korea which they are trying to unite) this is completely retarded it is such a one sided possible contlict that it is absurd to even suggest they could fall without our help. When you examine the numbers it begs the question why we are even there? If anything all we are doing is provoking the chinese and escalating the conflict into a potentional world war MAD conflict.
no, he said he would engage in peace talks with North Korea
he knows that Kim is a fucking retard and crazy, a few months ago he said he would make china more or less assassinate him
North Korea's air force is horribly dated, their weapons are dated, they don't have a nuke, they are commiting massive human rights violations, and trump knows this
FFS, the country doesn't even have an adequate power grid, they have power outages all the time.
>>75661642
>You're advocating for the collapse of the entire global order that we know
good, it's a shitty global order anyways
>>75664203
Trump believes global warming is a hoax yet recognized the severely sped up global climate change... at least shillary knows she's lying when she does it. Trump is just a fucking idiot. He wants to cancel the Paris climate change deal and has no idea about the intricacies of foreign policy. Fuck Trump and fuck hillary, but fuck you if you genuinely support either one. This is bigger than you, this is bigger than is.
>>75664003
WWI was fought because of Imperial resistance (Serbia and Austro-Hungary), and multinational alliances. WWII was fought because the German nation state had been broken up, and you had different ethnic populations inhabiting not nation state borders. After WWII and the break up of the Soviet Union Europe was almost entirely homogeneous nation states after a century of warring to achieve it. It was the most stable Europe has EVER been, and the EU project has destroyed it with globalism, and immigration, once again creating NON-homogenous states rather than nation states.
Nuclear weapons should be used as a deterrent between the great powers, and a deterrent for the remaining great powers from gobbling up any more nation states. That is the most stable possible scenario we can possible have now. If the great powers were smart, they would also be trying to homogenize themselves to prevent internal nationalism among diverse populations causeing eventualy breakup.
Instead, we are pushing for the mass movement of people, the destruction of nation states, and the creation of diverse and divided populations within the larger western countries. China will be the only surviving nation state by the end of the century, and it will be the most stable country because of this, western fantasies about Chinese breakups notwithstanding.
>>75662138
Nuclear Weapons next door
>>75661241
What does this mean for Taiwan? I thought Trump was going to protect us.
>>75664727
Japan, Mongolia, and the Koreas will also be surviving nation states, as well as any more 3rd world nation states that no economic migrants are bothering to flock to.
>>75662644
muh living breathing document
get outta here kid
>>75661642
Retarded is continuing to prop up people and nations that fucking hate us.
Fuck South Korea!
They are such superior bad asses let them defend themselves!
>>75664066
except if the US gets run into the ground everything trump would do will still happen. So you're basicly choosing "lets run this country in to the ground a long with every other country" over "lets try to save this country by getting rid of the unnecessary spending." Your feared version of SK getting invaded would happen anyway, except under Trump america would still stand.
>>75661241
>>Attempt to bully Mexico
Mexico has been bullying and taking advantage of us for decades.
>>75661642
>We don't want to just sit back and let Russia take huge chunks of Europe.
Yes please.
>>75662644
>IT'S 2016
>>75664885
>muh can't accept that the world has changed
get outta here kid.
![tumblr_lxa325ozIY1qep74vo1_500[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/pHkKt78.gif "tumblr_lxa325ozIY1qep74vo1_500[1].gif")
>>75662136
Amen, brother
DEUS VULT
>>75664715
Oh god you're the fucking Bastille day jackasses from a couple days ago. Could you guys stop wearing your Reddit cringiness so blatantly on your sleeve?
>>75664380
I wouldn't abandon any of our pre-Obama allies, if I could.
But Trump is still the last, fading hope that we will throw off the media stranglehold on information before we all go full Orwell.
He might just decide to take control of it, but Hillary definitely will, and if Trump is really as stupid as the media says he is, he might fuck everything up and destroy his own power base... Hillary wouldn't.
Kind of funny, the whole world collectively bitches and moans about us policing the world but the moment we talk about stopping they scream that we cant. Fuck em. Let them deal with it.
>>75661642
>muh global order
alright Shlomo
He wants to return to protectionism and the old US ways of staying clear of international commitment.
>>75661642
>nobody wants deracinated elites to stop genociding the West for shekels
Agree to disagree.
>>75664066
Really?
I'm really afraid of Hillary since the Libya thing. She destroyed one country and destabilized two continents. I can't imagine the shit she could do in the presidency.
>>75664837
If means you're not worth a nuclear war. This is a Chinese Civil War issue, and you're now the weaker party. Only an insane country would back the weaker party in a nuclear Civil War.
Your best bet is to be worth more to China economically as a peaceful friend, which you are. China does not benefit from outright war. It is mostly concerned with stopping the US from encircling the mainland with foreign outposts.
Maintain a defensive capability, and have a positive trade relationship with the mainland. You'll be fine.
>>75664683
Also I didn't even mention the 500 thousand to a million norks in political prisons which they simply will not be able to maintain and will likely lead to armed dissidents on their side if they don't kill them off at the start of the war which will seriouslu curb their slave production. Norks also don't havd nearly as efficent infrastructure of transport. After the war is done they likely can't even control the whole south. This is such a absurd dicussion.
"The west" is too strong. There is no enemy, no reason to be strong and vigilant.
The breakup collapse of the atlantic tyranny is the best thing that can happen to all of us. Support for all the bullshit that has been eating away at our societies will evaporate overnight. We will finally have a reason and the motivation to become great again.
>>75664042
> Russia is Mordor
>>75661642
>We don't want to just sit back and let Russia take huge chunks of Europe
No I do want that!
Let all of the smug dutch faggots and other so superior Euros pay for their own shit!
>>75661642
GO HOME, GLOBALIST-KUN
>>75661241
Putin wants Trump to become president so USA will leave NATO and he can take over the EU :(
>>75663248
>The only retarded move he'd make is alienate the USA from Mexico.
mexico alienated themselves from us. those fuckers have been dumping their human garbage here for years and have been actively laundering money for the cartels.
if they want trade again they're gonna put that fucking wall up.
>>75665075
This 100% it is comical at this point.
>>75665211
By "we," I obviously meant people who aren't retarded. That excludes most of /pol/, of course.
>>75665242
I hope your nation gets steamrolled.
>>75665242
You know the solution to that?
Grow a fucking pair and recognize the need for an actual military instead of using a foreign nation to protect you.
>>75663215
I sure want Russia to invade us asap, it's surely far better than being governed by the cucks we have now.
>>75665242
>please protect us america
>we just don't wanna help pay for it
>>75665154
This. America putting it's hands in other peoples shit is becoming unpopular to not only the world but to the American people whether you believe it or not. We're tired of starting pointless shit with countries that can easily escalate to full blown WW3. So we want to hole up, develop our economy, take care of the people HERE who need help (which is ample I assure you) and let you all bicker amongst yourselves.
>>75661241
Hurray for best Korea
>>75665242
Better putin than the EU
the DPRK knows they will get their asses handed to them by the south
it's all talk, they won't do shit, deep down kim is a very very very lover of american culture
it's all propaganda
the USSR was constantly saying that they are close to destroying the USA over and over and over, and never did, and ultimately entered into peace talks in the late 80's and they eventually had no option because they were going bankrupt
it's a shame that their olympic team sucks ass because I would love to see USA Vs DPRK in whatever they choose
make another miracle on ice moment...except the difference is, that North Korea isn't as strong as they claim,
>>75664970
Trump isn't worth it in the long run.
Look. Hillary is a fucking sellout cunt. Obviously. But she's at least a sellout in the sense that she's not trying to be a fucking meme. All politicians say they want to do this or that and make promises they never keep. But all politicians just want more power for thenselves. Trump is no fucking different whatsoever. Shillary is no fucking different whatsoever. The difference is their policies, and Shillary at least has better environmental policies. We uh, depend on the environment to not be shit, in case you forgot. Our survival is at stake, not just muh jobs. Fuck
>>75665154
Do a lot of Americans think like this? Everyone here grow up thinking we are best pal.
>>75665465
>Better environment policies
>Anti coal
>Give billions to china
Nah
>>75661241
>>75664715
Global warming is a hoax to limit US manufacturing. China is the one producing most of the toxic fumes. They are the ones who need to get their shit together.
So, Hillary "lets invade Iraq" "Let's bring down Gaddafi" "Let's destabilize Syria" Clinton knows more about foreign policy than Trump? Well she certainly knows how to destabilize regions of the world and bring us into costly foreign engagements with no benefit to America.
Trump at least acknowledges that these places aren't compatible with democracy or western values and trying to force that on them will lead to disaster.
>>75665465
>not just muh jobs. Fuck
but jobs make people money, for which we exchange for goods and services
such goods and services are of better quality than the goods and services that the government provides, the ones the government provides are of sub-standard quality and aren't very good and usually are shit
>>75665119
She isn't destroying usa at least. Just giving us a terrible name. Ill take superficial destruction over fundsmental destruction with Trump. I guess thats where im at
>>75665553
Everyone should be anti coal. Fuck coal. And fuck you if you don't want us to be anti coal.
>>75665242
>AMERICANS SUCK WORLD POLICE DESTABILIZING WORLD EVERYTHING IS THEIR FUCK STUPID AMERICANS
Well fuck you then we're out.
>NO PLEASE AMERICA DON'T LEAVE I LOVE AMERICAN MOVIES PLEASE BE OUR POLICE FORCE THE WORLD OUTSIDE MY SOCIALIST PARADISE IS SCARY
>>75661241
At least NK and Japan pay their fair share for defense
>>75665647
Nah fuck you cuck. You can have your energy bill skyrocket and I will keep using coal. You can also give your taxpayer money to china while I keep mine.
>>75665647
you forget that people work for a living in the coal industry
how do you expect to help the MILLIONS of displaces families who rely on coal for their way of life?
>>75665647
Do you want affordable energy or not?
Why do leftist clowns like you refuse to understand the actual reality we are dealing with?
>>75665542
Most Americans don't know Taiwan exists. You're better off trying to get Japan to annex you again.
>>75665608
>says the Trump shill
Every time I see that post. Fuck off
>>75661241
>Leave NATO
False. He wants to stop footing the bill for protecting yurope while they thumb their noses at us and spend their time/money on social engineering games.
>Abandon Europe and leave them at the mercy of Russia
False. See above.
>Abandon South Korea and allow North Korea to take over the south
False. See above re: paying freight.
>Start a trade war with China
False. The war is on. Or do you think China's currency is naturally debased?
>Attempt to bully Mexico
False. He WILL bully Mexcio into taking their border with us seriously instead of treating it like a garbage disposal.
>Harm our domestic economy with tariffs that would accomplish nothing
Debatable in the that tariffs are designed to normalize prices for countries like China that cheat with their currency.
>>75665647
Enjoy shitting in the dark and imported cheap chinese steel.
>>75665647
I don't think Coal is especially horrible, but Thorium is where it is at.
>>75665465
>Our survival is at stake, not just muh jobs.
Kill yourself.
good.
why not let us reunite?
>>75665730
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3
>Coal = 33%
Just reminder of how retarded you are
>>75665762
We are a cool country, I hope you can visit and have a try.
>>75664416
and we have better training... better physical specimens in our soldiers etc
>>75661241
>.50¢ has been deposited into your account
>>75661241
>Abandon Europe and leave them at the mercy of Russia
>Abandon South Korea and allow North Korea to take over the south
I support this for the same reason I support ending all aid to Africa. Nations need to unfuck their own shit before they can be allies.
>>75665075
Except we're not one person.
I've never bitched about america policing us.
>>75665754
Affordable energy isn't as concerning as sustainable energy. Fossil fuels and coal are both NOT sustainable in the long run. That implies they will also become unaffordable...
>>75665024
fuck the rest of the world
the only concern we should have about them is what the going prices for goods are.
>>75665744
>how do you expect to help the MILLIONS of displaces families who rely on coal for their way of life?
Easy. We actually invest in training and jobs programs to help the displaced workers. That's how this shit is supposed to work. The same thing applies to free trade.
The problems aren't the policies - They are the lack of political will that exists for actually putting in place additional policies designed to help reduce the damage those policies cause. In the long run, we will all be better off without coal and with free trade. But we need to INVEST in the new economy.
>>75665754
>Do you want affordable energy or not?
Coal is on the way out anyway, dipshit.
>>75665730
>You can have your energy bill skyrocket
Coal isn't even fucking cheap. There are already cheaper options out there.
>>75665542
Most Americans don't even know what or where Taiwan is. No one has negative views of you, but no one is excited to die just so the Chinese Civil War can end in your favor, especially since the mainland is not as bad as it used to be since Deng Xiao Ping. It's less reasonable now to assume PRC just wants a blood war "for reasons", and is only interested in blood to safe face or some bullshit.
Taiwan overstates its vulnerability AND it's righteousness. But I personally like Taiwanese. But I also Iike mainlanders.
>>75665882
I visited before. Got family there. It's basically like a mini-Japan anyways. MRT is very clean.
>>75665465
>Trump isn't worth it in the long run
Worth what? What are you saying we stand to gain from a potential 8 years of Hillary Rodham Clinton?
Worth the Islamic refugees that come from a country where the public opinion of the populace is "death to the American infidels"? More pointless nation toppling? More patting the backs of women for taking gender studies classes and sociology? More Obama policies that make our country look like weak spineless pussies? More egging on of Russia in the Baltic to potentially cause full blown nuclear war? A continuation of allowing us to be neighbors to a country (Mexico) that makes it's citizens want to leave to here because they are getting fucking decaptiated and strung from highway overpasses whilst the Mexican government doesn't even bat an eyelash?
What is this great endgame with Clinton you think we stand to achieve? I'm so fucking curious.
>>75661241
MAKE. THE. WESTERN. WORLD. GREAT. AGAIN.
>>75665647
>he wants us to stop mining coal so we have to import it from the chinese like everything else we buy.
fuck you cuck.
>>75665953
It does not matter what you feel what matters is reality.
It does not matter if it is sustainable for the long run we are dealing with what we have and not what we want.
>>75662608
Stock market crashing wasnt a depression yet. The market had recovered half of its lost value by the time the smoot hawley act was passed.
The great depression was caused by the government continuously beating the economy over and over every time it tried to recover with dumb policies.
>>75665953
Except they are now and will be for atleast another century you fucking retard
Like I said your utility bills can skyrocket 60% and give us sensible people a bit of a cut ;)
>>75665696
>>75665406
>>75665367
>>75665298
I'm not some Muslim, I'm not anti USA.
>>75665972
OK, so no you do not want affordable energy you would rater feel good about it.
Piss off.
>>75661642
Trump literally never said anything about allying with North Korea. He wants to try and talk to them instead of antagonizing the crazy little fucker. Not to mention the EU is erasing people's rights and country's sovereignty and needs to be abolished anyways. NATO is a joke too.
>>75666088
We don't need coal at all, retard. There are cheaper options, and we really need to be getting off dirty energy anyways.
>>75665972
It's 33% of our energy production retard. Like I said your energy bill can skyrocket. I Won't let you retards have your way with my bill
>>75665834
You first. Lead by example, anon. Stop being such a pussy on a anonymous image board and show me how it's done.
>>75665972
>Easy. We actually invest in training and jobs programs to help the displaced workers.
that already exists, it's called the state department of labor and Vocational Rehabilitiation, all are fucking jokes
they find you the lowest bidder for jobs, which is usually unloading trucks at walmart for 10 bucks an hour or flipping burgers for 9 bucks an hour
when these workers were making 20-35 bucks an hour
fuck you
>>75666144
>OK, so no you do not want affordable energy you would rater feel good about it.
wow way to completely misrepresent my argument. It's clear that you don't have a single fucking clue what you're talking about.
Go play at the kiddie table while the adults are talking, son.
>>75665950
referring to world leaders, media tc. The talking heads that speak for you on the world stage.
>>75666141
Bullshit, you are only stating you are ntot Anti-USA now due to the context of the discussion.
I know how you smug dutch faggots are when it comes to the USA.
>>75666141
Be pro big ass military budget to project yourself. Problem fixed.
>>75666193
You guys are so fucking cringy it's awful.
>>75666209
Then clearly the programs we need don't actually exist, as you just described. Try again.
>>75666180
Coal is not the cheapest nor is it the best or the cleanest. It can easily be phased out if you retards weren't so intent on holding us back in every area.
>>75661241
>>75661642
Kill yourself disgusting shill/leftie. You are not welcome in the new age.
>>75665773
The last one isn't even debatable, tariffs in circumstances like these work, plus the tariff is just the bargaining chip.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/would_trumps_trade_policy_really_cause_a_recession.html
>>75661241
>Attempt to bully Mexico
Cute. There's no attempt about it.
>anti-trumpers being anti-coal
>not knowing that trumps policies would make it cheaper thus your power bill would be chopped in half
savings at the top means the average american can have a lower utility bill, fuckwads
>>75662289
That's great but its not how Intl politics works my friend.
>>75665953
Do you have any idea how much fucking coal there is in the united states? Literally one seam alone of coal covers 4 states, 11 feet deep. 4 fucking states of it. Thats one seam. Coal is nut running out anytime soon or even in the next 500 years.
>>75666151
the only better option is nuclear
>dirty energy
fag
>>75666328
How do you feel about Thorium?
>>75665811
For reference.
What is the National Socialist view on North and South Korea?
One is autarkic nationalism. The other is a globalised american culture colony.
>>75666224
Are you honestly saying your politicians speak for you?
>>75666094
What we have is the potential to go beyond what we want, and to make what we want and what we need = the same thing. People who think renewable and sustainable clean energy is a joke are fucking idiots who lack vision and a capacity for critical thinking beyond their own ego.
>>75665872
This look better:
Coal = 33%
Natural gas = 33%
Nuclear = 20%
Hydropower = 6%
Other renewables = 7%
Biomass = 1.6%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Solar = 0.6%
Wind = 4.7%
Petroleum = 1%
Other gases = <1%
>>75666399
>it's not how Intl politics works my friend
Currently.
>>75666328
Sigh... it is not about "holding us back" it is about what we can actually produce and our needs in real fucking life.
>>75666328
how the fuck are we gonna do that? automation is going to be taking over 80% of menial jobs if the libs get their way
they want everyone on welfare and government handouts, this is how you create reliance on the state for your living, and if we only have dems in 100% power all over, you end up living in a communist shithole like North Korea
fuck you, and fuck your shit
dispose of yourself, now
>>75666088
The Chinese buy coal from us. Its one of the few exports we have left these days.
>>75661241
This is what all these faggots get for talking mad shit and contributing nothing to Big Daddy 'Merica. Enjoy getting rekt.
>>75661241
yes we do. we also supported your pet nigger, obama.
>>75661241
>Leave NATO
>Abandon Europe and leave them at the mercy of Russia
>Abandon South Korea and allow North Korea to take over the south
WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK. This has ZERO effect on most of our day to day lives. Literally nobody cares.
World War 2 was 70 fucking years ago. Time for these fucking faggots to get their own military already. The gravy train is over, were done spending billions of dollars on these ungrateful shitheads while they laugh at us, mock our way of life and ban us from businesses/bars when visiting their countries. The only reason Western Europe and South Korea have such great success is because they dont have to spend hardly any money on military thanks to us, freeing that money up to be spent on social programs and infrastructure, while they spit in our face.
Time for us to free up some of our own money for own citizens for a change. Fuck these ungrateful shitheads, nobody in America outside of politicians and military welfare leeches gives a fuck about North Korea or Russia.
>>75666376
But my feelings!
I only want wind or solar power or some shit even if that would never produce enough.
>>75666328
You are the one being retarded cucky. Go move to germany where your energy bill is much higher. I am keeping mine at it's current level. Destorying 33% of our energy production will causing skyrocketing energy prices , this is not debatable.
>>75666440
Oh dear fucking God sauce.
>>75666193
Ladies first.
>>75666300
Your parents raised a shit. Shame on them and shame on you.
>>75661241
>leave them at the mercy of Russia
actually it would an improvement rather than being the puppet of the israelo-american
>>75661642
I smell a "journalist" for Business Insider , The Economist or any of the similar shitty globalist publications. In any case, fuck off.
Nothing wrong with coal.
Lets abolish central planning and allow energy sources to compete with one another in the marketplace.
>>75666440
The patriotic anti-globalism of the north combined with the market driven, but quasi-protectionist economics, and traditional culture of the south rather than the leveling communist sterility of the north.
>>75665629
Except she's going to destroy the world since Putin already said he's declaring war if that cunt gets the oval office.
>>75666450
If you cared about critical thinking you would take the actual reality into account.
You are so worried about being progressive etc.. but bitch about other peoples ego?
>>75661241
that's some pussy tier leadership
gotta tell families of those americans who died in Korean War that commies got what they wanted
>>75661241
You did good kid, real good.
Tell them, they are all retards, that'll really shove your non-argumentative opinion down their throat.
>>75666676
this is exactly what trump wants to do
>>75666577
>this is not debatable
It very much IS debatable, whether you want to admit it or not. We have no particular NEED for coal. It can be replaced easily and cheaply. The only reason why coal is still being pandered to at all is politics.
>>75661642
>implying all of us dont want that
>>75665744
>how do you expect to help the MILLIONS of displaces families who rely on coal for their way of life?
>cheaper energy due to nuclear
>new chemical processes driven by high-temp, liquid fuel reactors (not the BWR shit we use now)
>cheaper energy=energy intensive industry growth
>jerbs
Problem solved.
>>75666538
>were done spending billions of dollars on these ungrateful shitheads while they laugh at us, mock our way of life and ban us from businesses/bars when visiting their countries.
This!
I am sick and tired of supporting people that hate us.
>>75666450
It is a joke at the moment. We should try to improve to a point where it is viable, but right now it is very rough to use, difficult to implement, and not reliable enough to use on too large of a scale.
Not only that, with solar panels there is a lot of toxic waste produced. Especially in the mining of silicon. Wind harms our native birdlife and isn't especially reliable. Hydro harms our fish life and upsets the ecosystem tremendously because of that. I find it to be a misnomer to call that "clean" like so many do. Albeit you referred to it as sustainable.
>>75666577
>Destorying 33% of our energy production will causing skyrocketing energy prices
That is what leftists want.
>>75661241
>Leave NATO
And? What of it? What has NATO done for us?
>Abandon Europe and leave them at the mercy of Russia
See above
>Abandon South Korea and allow North Korea to take over the south
See Above
>Start a trade war with China
Are you implying that competition is bad?
>Attempt to bully Mexico
Again, so what?
>>75666575
Is solar power even profitable at this point? Seems like it's all government subsidies and isn't even sustainable.
>>75666405
I have an idea of cleaner and even more efficient energy. Even Musk does too, and he's more of an authority about this matter than everyone in this thread combined. You need to learn to let go and move on, anon. Things arent gonna stay the same one way or another, so why be clingy?
>>75666440
I NEED sauce man.
>>75666538
>Time for these fucking faggots to get their own military already.
You dont want that
You control part fo europe anf want to control all europe
NWO is on its way
>>75666760
LOL no it is because of the REALITY of our actual energy needs and what can be produced.
You god damn little kid EDUCATE yourself.
>>75666760
>Easily and cheaply
Completely deluded
https://www.ovoenergy.com/guides/energy-guides/average-electricity-prices-kwh.html
Enducate yourself moron
>>75666230
Only niggers, muslims and left faggots hate the USA. I only hate American Jews, obviously you don't know ;)
>>75661241
>mercy of Russia
western Europe is far more dangerous to itself than Russia could ever be, it ain't WW2 anymore sonny
>>75666151
>There are cheaper options
No, there literally aren't, coal is as cheap as it gets. The fossil fuels under our feet are the key to American economic dominance, at least as a stopgap measure until we can go full thorium nuclear.
>>75661642
I'd rather would want Russia to take europe than Islam
>>75665465
>Shillary at least has better environmental policies
>not investment and construction of new generation nuclear reactors/decommissioning and replacement of reactors beyond service life
>better
>>75666931
That same NWO is controlling the USA as well.
