When did this socialist boogeyman meme begin?
What's so bad about socialism? What's so bad about believing laborers shouldn't be exploited, should get some time off, shouldn't be forced to work 16 hours a day, are entitled to a safe work environment, that there shouldn't be a non-working class, made of people who don't contribute to society yet live in luxury, and that all families should be able to send their children to school and shouldn't be forced to make them work in order to survive?
>>75655304
>Danish population 5.7million
>USA population: 350million.
Really makes you think huh
>>75655304
Socialism and capitalism explaned pic related. Nothing more or nothing less.
It started when ignorant people started being opinionated and parroting slogans created by the ruling class to turn them into useful idiots.
>>75655304
It comes with its price. In Denmark, lower & middle class citizens have to pay 45% in taxes. The ones who own a bussines pay 60%.
In my opinion, the ones who are smart and industrious deserve to life a live in luxury. The dumb, lazy ones should not be gifted by the ones who made the right decisions.
Nice source on those rankings
>>75655884
Where do you get those numbers from?
>>75655304
>that there shouldn't be a non-working class,
because the end goal should be that everyone belongs to the non-working class
>>75655723
>FDR
Nice tyrant there socialists
>>75655304
48 now?
>>75655946
>>75655895
forgot source on my numbers, sorry
http://www.doingbusiness.org/~/media/GIAWB/Doing%20Business/Documents/Annual-Reports/English/DB16-Full-Report.pdf
>>75655304
>ranked #1 for business
Nice source.
>>75655468
I think its more about the homogeneity of the people than the number of the people
if the americans were 90% white and without jewish influence they would be much better off I can imagine
>>75655964
Capitalism can't handle post-scarcity, so it obviously wouldn't be able to achieve that.
>>75655304
>48 hour work week
I mean, I could work 48 hours if I wanted to, but I don't have to.
>>75656099
This. Also look at American spendings on their army compared to Denmark.
>>75655476
Nice strawman
>>75655723
FDR ran as a fiscal conservative and then got in bed with all those people he is complaining about.
>>75656041
yeah, what a dreadful time to live that must have been. i'm so glad we can safely lick the boots of our superiors now.
that's why i'm a #trumplet
>>75655304
>>75656041
Funny to hear that coming from a Mexican, where a couple of decades earlier a communist tyrant (namely Plutarco Elias Calles) came to power with the support of a Republican president of the US.
The more I argue with anti-socialist shills, the more I realize their opinions are based on ignorance.
>>75655304
im sick of you niggers citing denmark as a succes of socialism. we are NOT a succes because of socialism, we are a succes due to our small, hardworking, homogenous country. why dont you say how great sweden is? germany? perhaps even norway?
because they are not fucking white anymore. they are turning to shit. socialism is a rare side effect of a succesful society, not the reason for its succes.ยจ
its always burgers spouting this stupid shit. id be thrilled to live in america if it was white..
>>75655304
I have no fucking clue how they get to 33 hour-week.
>>75656140
I don't know anyone who has to work more than 40 hours.
How much money does an average danish man get after taxes compared to an american?
>>75656377
>using 1947-1974 to say FDR dindu nuffin
>>75656224
You need a free helicopter tour.
>>75656458
hahahaha ebin meme XDDDD
>>75655304
last sentence: shouldn't have to work to survive. Commie pussy Bullshit. fucking moooslim.
>>75656814
>Stop triggering me!! Anything I don't like is communism and is literally Stalin and worthy of le ebin helicopter meme stop triggering muh feelz REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>75657164(you)
>>75655304
Right here OP, when the Jews genocidal ideology killed 60 Million people.
>>75656586
Fuck all.
>>75657320
>t. triggered turkroach
>>75655304
It is different though. I did the working semester in the USA and we worked maybe 50 hours and more. The working ethic in america is different and I have to say working 50+ hours in the USA is a lot more relaxing than working 40 in Germany.
>>75657360
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnIp69r6vg
>implying Denmark is in any way comparable to Stalinist Russia
What nordic countries are doing, or trying to do, with free healthcare, education and welfare isn't actually that bad, it can stabilize the society and reduce problems caused by poverty.
One could even argue that free healthcare, education and welfare aren't necessarily socialist agendas, since capitalistic society will benefit from the effects of it too. So you could call them centrist positions even. Like justice system, police and military, you really can't attribute them to any single political ideology because they are deemed necessities in modern society.
But what is left outside of those basic needs, is where the socialism begins, and where it fails pretty fucking spectacularly. Controlling the masses like they are mindless drones and enforcing retarded policies because socialism doesn't recognize individuals and their rights and freedoms. They hand money hand over fist to their friends and businesses like crony capitalists do. They really harm the whole entire society with their psychotic need to control every little thing, and most of all, they harm the very things socialists most often refer to the "good things" in socialism, free healthcare, education and welfare. By stifling healthy market structures needed to fund them.
Socialism is just fucking retarded ideology.
>>75657522
How so?
>>75656560
I do [spoiler] While also studying full time. Mfw fellow students complain about not having money. [/spoiler]
EVERY
HUMAN
BEING
DESERVES
MONEY
LEARN THIS SHITLORDS
I AM NOT GOING TO WORK EVER, NO OTHER HUMAN BEING WILL TELL ME WHAT TO DO
I WRITE ARTICLES FOR THE LOCAL PAPER, AND I WEIGH 210LBS, I DON'T WORK
>>75657572
>le commie joke
This
>>75656099
Hell, just about any form of government can work in a homogenous high trust society.
>>75657382
sure, mr. white trailer trash american
>>75655304
Ranked 1st for business?
By fucking whom?
What utter shite.
>>75657793
What do you expect from a recently collapsed society? Things were in some ways better in 1973 than 1993.
>>75655304
Denmark nearly all white
America. 13% nigger
Denmark population under 10 mill
USA population. Over 300 mil
Socialism works fine in small nations of mainly white or asian people.
But when you have a huge class of poor people like america does it becomes unfeasible since they are such a gigantic tax burden.
Example almost all of our school funding goes to shitty inner city schools with no results.
Basically i will support socialism in america when we have a big wonderful wall to keep the uneducated poor masses out and the negros in our society raise themselves up out of poverty.
(So probably never)
Until that day socialism is not possible here
>>75655304
why do you think that money you didn't worked for belongs to you, anon?
that's cuckery
>>75655304
My work week is 37 hours and always has been.
>>75657713
Oh, right. I'm not on /tg/ anymore.
>>75655304
>Denmark #1 for business
>USA #18 for business
Okay that can't be true
>>75656224
>>75657006
>>75657164
All this butthurt. Socialism is shit, kill yourself.
>>75655304
1820s. When French fags and the Owens preached the death of God and limits in numbers of children to all families and free love
Demark is not a socialist country. You people are idiots. You have no idea what socialism is. Everyone on this board is a brain dead swivel eyed racist loon.
>>75655723
And the US has now come full circle.
>>75656542
That's nothing. We've gone and thrown socialists into power all over the world. Check out the book I Saw Poland Betrayed
>>75657945
Why did they collapsed? Von Mises literally write how and why socialism will collapse in 1920s. It was not unexpected or unique to Soviet Union. Socialism dont work. Look socialist calculation debate.
>>75657658
It is a lot more relaxed. Americans sit at other peoples desk and have small talk. The social aspect in the USA is tighter and you not constantly working. (In the office, obviously)
A meeting in Germany starts with introductions and then then every point is worked off. In the USA you have chit chats all the time and talk a lot more.
It is really hard to explain. All I can say is that I liked my coworkers in Germany as much as I liked them in the USA, but after 35-40 hours in Germany I feel really exhausted while in the USA it is more like the day just began after work and I feel still energetic.
I believe we germans use the time to work more efficiently. We really work 8 hours straight and rarly have private conversations during work that go longer then a couple of minutes. In the US it is totally ok to go to another desk and simply chat.
I should add that I only worked in the US for 6 months and it was a engineering job in an office. However other german students agreed mostly with me.
Maybe it is the amercan mentality. They say something just to say something nice and then you say something nice back. So everyone is simply nice for the sake of being nice.In Germany you are not. Initially all the German students I worked with said that the americans are shallow, because they don't really care and only hold chit chat, but once we understood the mentallity we all appreciated it.
It is hard to explain, but when an american says "isn't the weather nice" you go like "yeah it is a lovely day isn't it" while a german might say "The temperature is a little to high for me so I had to take of my top. Secondly, my car will be heating up since I parked it in the sun. The spots under the tree are not good because the birds shit on it. All in all I would prefer a drop in 2 Cยฐ for an optimal feeling of comfortability."
I am exaggerating, but maybe you get my point.
>>75655304
I love that image.
Protip, if the US pulled out of NATO and stopped fronting the bill for Europes military, those benefits would disappear overnight. The only reason these countries get these benefits is BECAUSE of the US
>>75658009
So national socialism?
>>75656140
I work between 56 and 58 hours a week. I sit on my ass and read for around 50 of those hours.
>>75656586
How much money does an American make after you take out what you have to spend on college tuition and healthcare, things the Danish get free: Fuck all.
>>75657793
You should be punched in your NUTS 2 region
>>75656542
Check out the book I Saw Poland Betrayed and John T Flynn's book on China
>>75658244
>implying I'm the butthurt one
>>75658699
Goddamn you're fucking retarded
Source?
As far as I can tell US doesn't front any bills for the EU's military and our healthcare system, etc is paid FROM THE COLLECTIVE TAX we pay. US has nothing to do with it.
You're not making the EU better burgerfat.
>>75655304
>What's so bad about socialism?
Ask Venezuela.
>>75658962
Take a look at how much we contribute to NATO. Now consider how EU has a greater GDP than the US, and they contribute next to nothing.
>>75655304
>33-hour work week
stop with this fucking meme already, I swear to G-d.
>>75655304
>denmark #1 for business
what business? the business of shitposting?
>>75659034
>Denmark is the same as Venezuela
Open a fucking book
>>75658750
>funded with the taxes they've paid
>free
>>75658763
>Sweden
>Talking about punching nuts
topkek
>>75658879
proxxy.
>>75659301
>Socialism in Denmark is the same as it would be in USA
Open a fucking book
what would be far better is no government at all, no bills passed dictacting your way of life, no taxes, no survival of the fittest, and not needing a declaration of human rights written on a piece of paper to give you some illusionary form of confidence, why couldn't it be ethically obvious?
a solution would be advancements and major state funded and owned STEM companies dedicated to making life easier, and artificial intelligence, but governments are not putting enough priority on renewables apart from monetizing the carbon footprint, and giving more power to corps. As far as i'm concerned with the way things are going, future is bleak.
>>75658451
>Von Mises
Extreme faggot
>>75658693
>It is a lot more relaxed.
I think this is something that gets overlooked in these threads. Most 8-hour workdays in the US do not involve working for 8 hours. You get an hour for lunch, a 15 min break or two, plus downtime during the day. A good amount of people on 4chan right now are at "work".
>>75655304
The real question is were you born retarded?
this >>75656203 europe is so deep in the welfare state thanks to having no army at all with U.S. protection
>>75655304
>ranked 1st for business
yeah, Danish people have so many succesful multi-nationals like lego... er lego...
theyยดve got lego too
>>75655304
>33 hour work week
the meme is stronk with this one
>>75655304
>What's so bad about socialism?
It wrecks the economy, that's why Scandinavian countries don't use socialism as a mode of production. They just distribute some services this way. Capitalist "exploitation" is the lifeblood of their economies. The ones that set out to build "true" socialism end up without toilet paper.
When capitalism puts you in the top 10 richest countries per capita, you can afford the luxury of providing some "free" shit for everyone, at least until the diversity arrives at your doorstep. But it's a luxury - the leftist equivalent of a diamond-encrusted watch. It's more wasteful to provide services this way, but it makes the bureaucrats and the leftist intelligentsia feel like they matter. They feel like they're making a difference, when all they're doing is irresponsibly throwing other people's money at the problem.
Those that actually make headway, inventors and entrepreneurs, are obstructed by socialist policies.
>>75655304
>52% tax.
>25% value added tax on all products.
>150% registration tax on cars.
Now, Copenhagen has a population density of something like 5,100 people/mi^2, and has a GDP per capita at $113,996 millions. The US city that resembles Copenhagen on these two factors the most is St. Louis, Missouri.
When comparing the Cost of Living:
>Consumer Prices in Saint Louis, MO are 22.48% lower than in Copenhagen
>Consumer Prices Including Rent in Saint Louis, MO are 26.46% lower than in Copenhagen
>Rent Prices in Saint Louis, MO are 35.76% lower than in Copenhagen
>Restaurant Prices in Saint Louis, MO are 42.08% lower than in Copenhagen
>Groceries Prices in Saint Louis, MO are 2.37% lower than in Copenhagen
>Local Purchasing Power in Saint Louis, MO is 38.08% higher than in Copenhagen
(Source: http://www.numbeo.com/)
THIS is why Socialism is fucking cancer. You get a fuckton bureaucracy for NOTHING. NAUGHT. Except a stagnant economy and NO WA to roll the socialist shit back, because 8/10 journalists and teachers vote for Socialist parties, kids are indoctrinated, and everyone is afraid of having to take care of themselves, thinking they can't do it. Play around with the cost of living site, and try some cities comparable to Danish cities of any size. Just try and make them relatively equal in pop. density and wealth, and I GUARANTEE you that it will more expensive in Denmark.
Denmark has something like 0.5-ish% growth on average for the last few years, while the US has had 2% on average, which is pretty healthy.
Now let me tell you why Denmark is #1 for doing business. Less costly, more streamlined, less regulation, easier overall, easier to pay taxes, free trade, etc. Go check it at http://www.doingbusiness.org/rankings. Denmark is a Libertarian's wet dream, relatively, beaten only by a few others. Why is Denmark then suffering from poor economic performance? Because it's FUCKING EXPENSIVE to be rich or successful here.
>>75659765
So you're say you want an anarchistic/libertarian country that's probably sooner or later is going to turn into a decadent degenerate society with no real direction.
You talk about a state funded and owned STEM companies but how would that be possible when there is no fucking Government and nobody is paying taxes? How is it going to be funded in anyway?
>dedicated to making life easier
You should strive to improve the life of your people but to make life "easier" just sounds lazy to me.
>>75655476
>let me show some polish-political-quality images to prove my point.
Yes you are just a subhuman as polish people, we know already alright?
>>75655468
>Really makes you think huh
>think
>huh?
>think...
Really makes me want to fucking kill you.
>>75655304
>i want free shit
>>75655304
Denmark is an anomaly that can't be recreated in the US.
There's also lots of negatives with it. (pic related)
>>75656203
US military spending is less than 20% of the budget, though.
We spend 2.5 trillion dollars per year on Medicare and Social Security; which is way bigger than military spending.
>>75655304
>a country with vastly lower corporate taxes and less regulations is more inviting to business than a country with more regulations and taxes and we have the numbers to prove it
>WE NEED TO TAX THEM AT 90% BECAUSE FUCK CORPORATE GREED!
t. Liberals
Um. Population difference. Totally different animal when you have 370 mil people vs 20 mil. KEKS!
>>75655304
Fuck off with this shit...population dipshit...population.
>>75655723
>FDR talking about war profiteering
lel
Also, you have it backwards.
People tried Marxism en masse in the 20th century, realized it was shit, then reverted back.
>>75655304
>le ranked 1 for business
explains why all of our businesses are here and not over there.
really makes you think...
>>75655304
>When did this socialist boogeyman meme begin?
During the cold war, I believe.
And `Murricuns have been brainwashed into using it like a curse ever since.
>>75661262
>Capitalist "exploitation" is the lifeblood of their economies.
You know that the Norwegian state own the majority of the oil they drill up, rather than letting some benign capitalist with the nations best interests at heart doing it?
A decent way to pay for public services IMO, as opposed to encouraging an oligarchy or "throwing other people's money at the problem".
>>75655304
What does "ranked #1 for business mean"? What is this ranking based off of and what is your source?
Looks like you did a flip already faggot
>>75660075
Not an argument.
>>75662173
Funny thing is, the reason they say "TAX THEM AT 90%!!!" is because we have so many loopholes, and the massive socialist-style bureaucracy that polices these things is inefficient.
Trump want's to elimnate the tax loopholes, and charge them a rate of roughly 30%; but it will actually be more effective than what we have now. Autistic commies just see the overall rate going down, and sperg-out. They're dogmatic meatheads that thing all rich people must be evil and out to get them.
>>75661426
Not to shit on your point but St. Louis is 43% black, and is a shithole as a result, I'd rather live in Copenhagen.
>>75657382
I just graduated and make 40,000 euros after taxes and pension contribution. Literally don't know what to do with all the money
>>75658750
>college tuition and healthcare
Temporary at worst, not necessary at best.
Taxes however, are inescapable. You can get scholarships that pay for your entire college cost. You can not be retarded and keep your health in check.
>>75655304
Wew. Hey Berniebot, please stop using Denmark as an example.
>http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/
t., Denmark
>>75662619
>18 รฅrige her.
Hvilken uddannelse tog du og hvad er din beskรฆftigelse?
>>75655304
>Paid to attend college
lmao
You can't survive on what little they give you. You'll end up having to take student loans like everyone else.
>>75663050
Cand.oecon., data analytiker
>>75662599
You should just keep living in the US, for now. Despite being Libertarian, I'm very aware that social cohesion is strongly connected to cultural homogeneity.
Overall, no matter your social class except maybe the homeless and wealthless (which Denmark has too), you can make a better living in the US than Denmark. Just move a place that suits your income level and you'll be fine.
>>75663220
5000 dkk a month is survivable. Students take out the extra loan for beer hash and traveling
>>75662875
>You can not be retarded and keep your health in check.
Not really. The killer healthcare costs come from unexpected accidents or things like cancer. Bad lifestyle healthcare costs are generally more affordable. It's typically why people don't bother to take care of themselves. Why give up deep fried butter when you can just buy some pills for $25-$30 that negate the effects such eating has on your health?
>>75656137
Capitalism handles post-scarcity by putting the producers of post-scarce products out of business.
If they are truly important enough, the government can subsidize them, like they do corn growers. If not, they adapt or die, just like everyone else does.
>>75655304
"Ranked 1 for business" - Hahahahaha
In reality: it's easy to registre a company in DK, but in reality you get muddled in so much red tape that 8 out of 10 fresh start firms go broke when they get their first employee.
>>75663438
That's a non argument though. Why should you force everyone else to pay higher taxes on the off chance that you might get cancer or go cliff-diving too much and your parachute malfunctions?
>>75655304
it works in denmark because they don't have so many niggers there.
>>75663444
>>75656137
Post-scarcity is a meme that relies on space magic like nanomachines and free energy. It's scifi.
You guys do realize we're not actually socialist, right? RIGHT?
>>75655304
When did this "Denmark is Socialist" meme begin?
The Prime Minister of Denmark literally came all the way to the USA to BTFO Berniebots
They have a lower corporate tax, no govt mandated minimum wage, score higher on world bank's 'ease of doing business ranking.
The PM's son goes to university in the USA instead of using their """"free"""" college... wonder why
https://youtu.be/MgrJnXZ_WGo?t=487
>>75660085
Y'know Germany is an outlier anyway. Plenty of European offices are casual and chatty, but get their work done too. Conversely, in my experience working remotely with US workers in a multinational, the American workers log on from home, in the morning, in the evening, and seem to be extremely passionate about their work, to the point it can obstruct progress because they take business decisions personally and have to debate and argue every point til they get their way. In my experience, others get their work done just as well, but when they're off the clock, the couldn't give a shit.
>>75664139
No. There's this meme that leftists are smart; but when it comes to average Americans, they're all dumb, no matter their political alignment.
>>75655304
Oh look! Another economically illiterate americunt thinking that the definition of socialism is "free shit and minimum wage".
>>75655304
>When did this socialist boogeyman meme begin?
who could it be?
>>75664372
I've spoken to many leftists (esp American leftists). The number of smart ones I've met have been a drop in a pool of borderline retarded.
It's almost as though one economic extreme or the other is a bad idea, and the best way forward is a middleground, where individuals and businesses keep most of their earnings, but pay a scaling tax rate that increases the more they earn. These taxes are redistributed to the less well off, allowing them to participate in the consumer economy, where the spending has a multiplier effect (as opposed to the rich, who tend to hoard or shift money around in non-productive ways, or feed luxury industries which are wasteful). Besides which, poverty and deprivation cost a lot of money too, and an investment to support a single mother through college with childcare supports today can lead to that mother being able to support her own kid through college and into a professional job down the line, as opposed to a cycle of misery, drugs, crime and hopelessness. Provide a path out of poverty and most people will take it if it's feasible. There'll always be a few that won't, but they'll be a far smaller number of troublemakers than a disenfranchised mass you get with pure capitalism (which tends to suck productivity and wealth upwards, eventually draining out the support base of population which sustains it). Redistribution is a necessary part of a strong economy (though American style "gibs me dat" racially segregated benefits schemes are pure bullshit)
>>75655304
>when did it start
The bald Jew with no argument promoting it in his videos and retards on /pol/ believe it.
>>75660085
It's not overlooked, it's part of the problem.
We're forced to sit in offices for hours a day even when we have no work, for nothing other than the purpose of sacrificing hours of our lives to (((them))) and to keep us from doing the things we could be doing with that time, like getting married, raising families, being with our friends - real-life, non-online friends! - exercising, cooking healthy meals, doing charity, and reading books
We're dogs told SIT by (((our masters))) for at least nine hours a day to get our shekels for no other reason than they get off on telling us to sit
>>75656377
>Thinking that America ever in history implemented the free market economics from the Chicago school
>Thinking that the tricle-down theory is an actual economic theory formed by an actual free-market economists, not a huge strawman made by retarded libtards in order to discredit free market economists.
P.S. What the fuck is "Keynesianism"?
>>75663444
Because that worked so well with the music industry, right?
>>75663962
>technology is magic
You are illiterate.
http://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU
>>75656377
America was great back then.
Maybe it's not only the political system that brings success but also the people living in said country.
>>75664695
>an investment to support a single mother through college with childcare supports today can lead to that mother being able to support her own kid through college and into a professional job down the line
Yes, let's manufacture even more childless cat-lady spinsters who hate men raising niggergene cumgrowths to be the next generation of niggergene cumgrowths
or - OR - i'm gonna go way out on a limb here - we could invest in white men, and tell them to get real degrees, get real jobs, marry young women who haven't been wrecked by niggergenes, and have some kids who will themselves grow up to be productive, responsible white members of society
or we could keep subsidizing niggergenes and whores. whichever works for you.
>>75658734
This guy gets it.
>>75655476
What cracks me up the most is that Americans consider literally everything short of direct corporatocracy to be "Socialism" (and even that at times), yet they can't even do capitalism right.
>>75665190
Isn't the music industry abusing the mechanisms of state control in order to survive? Lobbying for legislation and regulation to kill off the post-scarcity distribution networks, and sending the law after people trying to distribute music for free? Isn't this more an argument in favour of the free market?
>>75655304
Because Socialism is theft. Taking the profits from those who earned it and giving it to those who haven't. I'd rather fucking starve than be supported by that level of theft.
TL;DR fuck off, you dirty thief.
>>75656377
This post triggers lolbertardians.
>>75665363
Genes aren't as important as you think. Take your social darwinism elsewhere.
>>75665533
I don't see helping my fellow countrymen as theft. However the current situation in Sweden is pure theft from the people.
Denmark has high "volk" ideology. You want to help your own people and hope they do well for healthy society, but this means Danish people only
More immigrants less sympathy for people around you because nigger will never be one of them.
>>75662257
Oh is that what happened?
>Libertardians can into history
Fuck no.
>>75665794
Curious why you don't think this would happen in USA too.
Fuck socialism. It's a sophisticated wealth transfer method.
>>75656377
>implying we live in a free market
>imlying that unemployment numbers arent fibbed
>imlying that government expenditure isnt counted as part of GDP under keynesian economic theory
>implying under keynesian in the 70s stagflation didn't happen
>implying the 2008 housing crisis wasnt caused by reckless keynesian economic policy trying to guarantee shitty loans because muh stimulation
>implying broken window fallacy isnt used to calculate this
>etc....
fuck off cunt
"ranked #1 for business" :DDDDD i think not
>>75665405
How? You just admitted corporate abuse is the problem. You think that will end without gov't interference? If so, you're naรฏve.
>>75665935
Supreme Leader pls
>>75665363
I figure you can't realistically control people's decisions. If women want to be coalburners, fine. But there are creative ways of leveraging social benefits to encourage self-improvement and productive participation. Don't just hand out supportbux, make it dependent on educational participation, and then work placements, internships, training programmes. I agree that families should be supported too, through tax credits for families and the option of a childcare subsidy, payable to whoever cares for a child during work hours (be that the wife at home or a creche while the mother works). There's no putting this genie back in the bottle, but we can make it work.
For example, my parents split when I was four. Mum moved down the country to live with her parents. There, she availed of office administration programmes offered by the government for free. She got a job, and eventually bought a house. Thanks to the grants system for a single parent, my brother and I were able to go to college for free, with a few hundred a month in supports, but we graduated into a jobless economy. I got a job near my hometown, kept the job when I moved to the city. A few months after moving to the city, my fiancee became pregnant. I applied for a masters program in an employable field, again, for free, and stayed working 75 miles away to support myself and my soon family (no grants left at that stage). Now I'm an employed professional, my kid has everything he'd want in life, so is my brother, and our mother drives a convertable sportscar and is retired. None of this stuff we could've done without the supports to get educated, and when the economy or whatever set us back, we weren't wiped out because there were supports there to get us back on our feet. Without that, we could've been delinquents and our mother wouldn'tve been able to qualify into a decent job. We would've been a drain on the system and maybe a disruptive element to society.
>>75662311
>And `Murricuns have been brainwashed into using it like a curse ever since.
Damn right. Everything is "Socialist" to an American, and yet most Americans even posting on /pol/ don't actually know what Socialism is.
>>75665190
>technology is magic
LOL, yeah tell me when you invent cold fusion, lad.
>>75665890
Obviously it wouldn't go well if you had the same immigration we have. Our system work when we only have EU immigration.
>>75666015
"people are narurally corruptible" is literally the most common argument used by government praising statists.
>>75666142
Socialism is a huge fucking meme that means different things to whatever leftist is talking about it at the time.
Go on /leftypol/ and try to argue with them about the meaning of socialism, then post results.
>>75656377
>left-side graph doesn't include top 1%
>different time periods, one includes the start of the consumer age
>financial crises don't consider globalization
>unemployment doesn't consider automation
>debt doesn't consider our endless war
yeah this is trash. none of this means anything.
Yeah because a tiny, rich, and homogeneous welfare state like Denmark can be compared to one of the largest and most diverse (economically and ethnically) countries in the world. If we taxed >55% it would completely cripple small businesses everywhere and lead to further income inequality.
>>75658009
>Example almost all of our school funding goes to shitty inner city schools with no results.
Blacks are outdated agrarian equipment that keeps making more of itself.
We should separate the ones with sufficient white genes to be considered people - a simple IQ test would be good, but some kind of test for pro-social values would also be important (additional proposal - apply the same test to whites, to root out the merchants and niggergenes) - and do our best to help them be productive lesser members of society, and herd the niggergenes together somewhere with no guns or drugs so they can't do too much harm to themselves or each other, reduce their fertility to a reasonable level and generally let them live the simple animal existence they're cut out for at minimal cost to ourselves, then use the difference to fund public goods for people who are capable of contributing back to society
>>75666330
No it isn't faggot. It's conservatards who misuse the term constantly. I'm convinced though that 99% of Americans, left or right don't know shit about Socialism. Like that other poster said, Socialism is a meme in America because of cold war propaganda.
>/leftypol/
>Not full retard
>>75665794
>>75665890
>>75666211
If they're one thing I could get leftists to admit, it's at least that socialism doesn't work well when you add millions of niggers to the mix.
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html
>>75658879
but you are
>>75666443
>If we taxed >55% it would completely cripple small businesses everywhere and lead to further income inequality.
The way we taxed >55% in the 50s, when inequality was at its lowest?
>>75666329
This
>>75656099
Are you implying the nordic countries is without jewish influence? Because that is wrong.
Also, the 90% white doesn't apply to us anymore, at least in Denmark. As soon as one of your foreing parents gain citizenship, you are seen as the same as a pure white blood scandi.
I wouldn't be surprised if our foreign population has creeped up to 30% in those two decades they pushed this "Hurr only 10% foreigners!" meme.
>>75666485
>hive of leftism is retarded
You'd think this would teach you something. Also, you still haven't posted results. I'm willing to bet they would school you on your own unrecognized misconceptions.
>>75666610
>As soon as one of your foreing parents gain citizenship, you are seen as the same as a pure white blood scandi
*in the statistics.
>>75666015
>"You just admitted corporate abuse is the problem. You think that will end without gov't interference?"
>>75655304
>EU-Member
>Good for starting a business
pick one
>>75666735
Hey Austria why the fuck did you make Hofer loose?
>>75666548
No shit...
>This whole thread
>>75666647
>You'd think this would teach you something
Yeah, it teaches me what I already knew: forums frequented by retarded American teenagers aren't bastions of higher learning. Same goes for nu/pol/ on 4book (that's here, because I know you're too retarded to understand what I just said and I have to spell it out).
>you still haven't posted results
What difference does that make? Truth isn't decided by committee, faggot. The definition of Socalism is an economic system in which the workers own the means of production. Everything else is details.
>>75666735
It's considerably worse in DK, that statistic have been proven false on so many levels.
The second you get 1 employer 3 unions are knocking at your door-
>>75666867
I think it was likely EU officials doing some vote-rigging.
Merkel was talking about how nationalist parties are "unacceptable and impossibe to win, etc." just a few days after the election; seems suspicious.
Anybody have a link to that?
>>75666867
>cucked by women
>state funded media
>>75667223
I get the concensus that "socialism" is the workers owning the means of productions in a fairy tale society where people share without a government telling them too; but it's unattainable, so what the's point?
For contemporary and relaxant purposes, socialism refers to all the current and past political parties and movements calling themselves socialist (in some effort to achieve that goal) - with most of them being shit.
Socialism is the ultimate sacred cow, always formless and distant; and thus it can never be criticized.
>>75667494
*relevant
>>75655304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ7LzE3u7Bw
Denmark = economically equal country
United states = economically unequal country
>>75666329
>>75666723
Abusus non tollit usum.
>>75667333
>>75667237
I really fucking hoped he will win. I guess now we have to hope for parliamentary elections to be much better.
>>75665405
As your own example shows and as >>75666015 indicates, there is no such thing as a "free" market because every market is necessarily constructed out of rules, laws, and customs, and sufficiently powerrful actors will always use their power to skew the rules further in their favor
You can either have an imbalanced market, where the most powerful are given free reign to write the rules in their interests, or a balanced market, where everyone's interests are taken into account. The market with no rules, where successful participants all simply individually choose of their own free will to never lobby the government, doesn't exist.
>>75666329
You're just revealing that you're too stupid to realize that nothing that I've just said is "corruption"
There is nothing whatsoever corrupt about businesses lobbying the government in the advancement of their interests. They will always do it, and have to, if they want to continue to succeed.
We can either either have rules that account for everyone's interests, or rules that account for the interests of select few. The no-rules market that runs on magic is a Merchant fairytale.
>>75666195
>LOL, yeah tell me when you invent a flying machine that is heavier than the air, lad.
>LOL, yeah tell me when you invent a machine that lets you talk to someone miles away from you wirelessly, lad.
You are literally what's holding humanity back, kid.
>>75655304
>Taking opinions from losers
There's only first place and the losers that follow. Since we're #1 right now, fuck off. Save it for when you surpass us.
>>75667494
>I get the concensus that "socialism" is the workers owning the means of productions
That's not the "consensus", you fucking idiot. That's the LITERAL definition of the word. Stop acting like a nigger and using words you don't know the definitions to.
>always formless and distant
You mean like libertarianism?
>A TRUE FREE MARKET HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED!!!!!
>>75662311
>You know that the Norwegian state own the majority of the oil they drill up, rather than letting some benign capitalist with the nations best interests at heart doing it?
The revenues from that amount to 15% of the government budget. Not a small chunk of change, but they're not exactly living off of it.
http://www.statsbudsjettet.no/Upload/Statsbudsjett_2016/dokumenter/pdf/budget2016.pdf
>>75665405
>Isn't the music industry abusing the mechanisms of state control
In general "abuse" has proven itself to be one of the Merchant's favorite brain-killers.
The music industry is not "abusing" anything. They are advocating for their interests.
Merchant-loving garbage like you try stupid merchant tricks like this to portray people advocating for their interests as evil, to convince decent people that they're morally forbidden from doing so.
You're actually just a sociopath who wants the music industry to be the only one who's allowed to take action to preserve itself, while individuals, families, and communities are left to suffer and wither and die alone.
>>75667764
Not an argument.
Cold fusion is physically impossible. Ask Michio Kaku or some other meme scientist you Reddit kids fap to.
>>75666548
>France
>Spain
Why would they be on top? They are failing so hard right now.
>>75668013
Never said I was a libertarian, I just prefer a heavier dose of capitalism and individualism, which is more conducive to meritocracy, than I do commie shit. I view it more as a necessity than a desire.
Also, nice pic of a nigger country with a different moral.cultural structure than the US.
>>75665405
>>75668035
In fact for anyone reading this who's aware, I'm going to offer you a new guideline: any time someone talks about "abuse" you should immediately suspect that a Merchant is trying to trick you out of doing something in your own best interest.
The easy example we should all be familiar with is the Duluth model, which was a merchant killshot against family stability by defining "abuse" as anything and everything a white man can do to keep control of his household, up to and including disagreeing with your wife and making her feel bad.
"Abuse" is a dogwhistle for tying both of your hands behind your back, while everyone else is allowed to fight with loaded gloves.
>>75668366
>Never said I was a libertarian
Nah you're just retarded. All of the right has almost exactly the same views on capitalism. You may as well all be libertarians.
And then he said:
>Capitalism
>Meritocracy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Capitalism is literally anti-meritocratic.
>I view it more as a necessity than a desire.
>It's the best system we have
Oh boy, we got lord of the memes over here.
>>75667698
>"there is no such thing as a "free" market"
The term "Free Market" means an economy free of the regulations that come from the centralized government. Of course there is no market free of regulations but the free market economists want the market to regulate itself.
>"We can either either have rules that account for everyone's interests, or rules that account for the interests of select few."
One of the main things that the free maket economists are advocating is the equal treatment of everybody, by which we mean equally low tax rates for everybody no matter the race, religion, social status or sexual orientation.
>"The no-rules market that runs on magic is a Merchant fairytale."
You know, it is not nice to speak about the free market while knowing jack shit of it and people that represent it. The free market is being proven, scientifically analysed and advocated for decades by a number of great economists from lots of economic schools. The free market doesn't work on magic. The free market runs on real principles that are set by every single person that participates in the economy.
>>75668399
Incidentally, anyone who hasn't should study the duluth model - ignoring some of the niggy extremes (don't smash things or threaten to shoot your wife, boys) it's a fantastic model for a healthy, stable long-term relationship
>>75668724
>Paris Hilton turned 'stupid' into a marketable product
>Not a genius
>>75666015
No state = No private property = No corporations
>>75668013
1. Libertarianism has many versions but it all comes form one source.
2. Show me please where and when the free market was tried.
>>75665389
you're right! That's hilarious!
>>75668894
>The term "Free Market" means an economy free of the regulations that come from the centralized government
We have that. They're called slums. Funny how no libertarian or ancap ever wants to move to one.
>One of the main things that the free maket economists are advocating is the equal treatment of everybody
Except that's not ever what actually happens in a capitalist society unless you use a LOT of government intervention to protect your people from it.
>You know, it is not nice to speak about the free market while knowing jack shit of it and people that represent it
Ho-ho! Speak for yourself, faggot.
>>75669109
>Implying this is good for the species
Why do capitalists hate themselves so much?
>>75669281
>1. Libertarianism has many versions but it all comes form one source.
Yeah, autism.
>Autism on the rise
>Libertarianism rises in popularity
Coincidence? I think not.
>>75668894
Wow, merchants get really angry when you identify them.Let's try to unwind the more obvious Jewpidity here.
>The term "Free Market" means an economy free of the regulations that come from the centralized government. Of course there is no market free of regulations but the free market economists want the market to regulate itself.
If you have a market with explicit written regulations which are enforced by an entity with the authority to do so, then the entity that sets and enforces those regulations is the government.
If you have a market that "regulates itself" with Merchant Magic, you have a thing that doesn't exist, will never exist, and which Merchants pretend exists to prevent people from advocating for their interests.
>One of the main things that the free maket economists are advocating is the equal treatment of everybody
Per my previous point about the Duluth model, it's amazing at the carryover in Merchant dogwhistles between economics and feminism.
In this case the Merchant tries to convince us he's for """"""""""""equality"""""""""" by which he means something that overwhelmingly benefits him and minimally benefits humans, with the vague and invariably empty implication that he will or even *can* care about things that are actually of benefit to humans at some unknown point down the road.
Learn new tricks Merchant, we know these now.
>>75668724
Lolo tesla wanted to be poor and he stated it multiple times. Not to mention that he was destroyed by the copyright rights which Libertarians advocate against. You could at least know what libertariansm is before you spam against it, redarded occupy democrat. Not to mention that Hilton's father gained his wealth through hard work and being talented, so you just kinda disprooved your point.
The cornerstones of a healthy white state are
- social programs for white men (so white men can improve themselves and contribute back to society)
- high taxation (so merchants can't hoard all the money)
- strict limits on immigration (so merchants can't flood us with Jamals and Iqbals who suck our programs dry)
- protectionist economics (so merchants can't killshot our economy from outside)
Do these = get Denmark, 1950s America
Don't do these = get Sweden, 2016 America
Everything else is Merchant Magic.
>>75669632
Ok man. Not a single one of those is an actual argument. All of them are just some retarded meaningless slogans and insults. I tried to argue with you on a civilized level but I guess all of the occupy movement members are fucking retarded.
Why don't the socialists and capitalists just fight it out to the death? You're not going to convince the other to adopt your ideology because they are completely sold on whatever memes the ideology is comprised out of. Just kill each other and shut up. Might is right, all political ideologies utilize this basic fact. Capitalism is simply a system that rewards might while socialism feeds on might like a parasite
>>75662311
Not even socialist know what socialism is. That's why they push socialism so hard. Socialism is just a step for introducing communism. I get that you like Hitler and all, he was pretty based for killing jewjess and ethno nationalism but socialism just doesn't work and it won't work for a long run.
>>75655304
But Denmark does't consider themselves socialist? Why don't we look at a country that considers themselves socialists if we are going to have this argument?
>>75670784
We already did. It was called WWII. The jews won and now capitalism and communism have taken over, leaving any other system out of power entirely.
>>75670933
>Capitalism works
>Socialism doesn't
Socialism is the supreme ideological spawn of slave morality
>>75655723
>class antagonism is bad
>we must combat this by exclusively targeting the rich with higher taxes and stricter regulations
fucking kek, the mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance are real
>>75669632
>We have that. They're called slums. Funny how no libertarian or ancap ever wants to move to one.
Merchants only ever pretend to want the "free" market so they can get what they actually want, which is a market skewed in their own interests.
Adding to your point about slums, the fact is that the unregulated black market in drugs is the thing in the world that funcitons closest to the "free market" that Merchants pretend to want (with law enforcement essentially playing the role of protecting that "freedom" by smashing apart any organizational structure that grows strong enough to govern it)
And what you mostly get from the unregulated drug market is beheadings and rapes at the borders, gibs murdering each other in the hood, and niggergene biker gangs smashing apart white communities.
Any suggestion that a similar """"""""""""'structure"""""""""""" could ever work for white people is a red herring, because this sort of """"""""""""structure"""""""""""" is inherently antithetical to the character of community-oriented white people and invariably ends up in the hands of the spics, the niggers, and the niggergenes.
>>75662102
That's still huge, especially the size of the US economy. European countries struggle to spend 2% of their economy on their armed forces. I guess because they think America will always be there to save the day and will never change their mind about covering every ally militarily. Germany is particularly bad about this.
Without the US I bet Poland could invade Germany and win
>>75670027
>We can either either have rules that account for everyone's interests, or rules that account for the interests of select few.
The point is that we do not want to have an bunch of "explicit written regulations", we think that the market regulates itself better by itself, driven by inndividual desires of millions of people.
>If you have a market that "regulates itself" with Merchant Magic, you have a thing that doesn't exist, will never exist, and which Merchants pretend exists to prevent people from advocating for their interests.
Ever heard of the "invisible hand"? You should, since this is one of the very basics of economics as a science.
>In this case the Merchant tries to convince us he's for """"""""""""equality"""""""""" by which he means something that overwhelmingly benefits him and minimally benefits humans, with the vague and invariably empty implication that he will or even *can* care about things that are actually of benefit to humans at some unknown point down the road.
Since when a voluntary economic agreement between two people is one sided?
On average, most danes get 30k DKK, about 4500 USD before taxes.
After taxes and everything, you're at about half of that. (This includes insurances)
Now, living in an apartment of 4 rooms in a medium to lower sized city you'll pay 5k DKK, or 750 USD without water, warmth and electricity.
After all those payments you'll have maybe 1250 USD.
For a family of 4 that'll mean 2500 USD, if parents are together. This means you get to pay for whatever you need and one vacation per year. With a single parent, this'll mean you'll be able to just pay for food and whatever gets bought every month with no vacation per year.
Denmark is not a fucking fantasy land at all. Now, living on welfare you'll get up to about 10k DKK per month, or 1500 USD per month. Living this life will be about the same as living as a family of 4 with a single parent. People generally don't want to be on welfare, because it's a life in hell. You're forced to work by the government or they'll take your welfare away.
>>75656099
You're right but more people means a larger chance for cultural variance.
>>75671481
*especially with the size of the US economy
>>75671101
>Capitalism works
>Socialism doesn't
That's what I'm saying. You can't just put things in green arrows and pretend it's an argument
>>75656814
Nice reference
>>75671477
>Merchants only ever pretend to want the "free" market so they can get what they actually want, which is a market skewed in their own interests.
Oh everyone knows that except capitalists. Funny how all the rich aren't "true libertarians". One would almost think that people that greedy for wealth and power would do whatever they could to get and hold onto it, rather than obeying the enlightened NAP or something.
>>75671626
The point is, you're objectively wrong.
>You can't just put things in green arrows and pretend it's an argument
And you can't just keep saying "Not an argument" and pretend that is a magical fix to being wrong. Consider this: America was experiencing its most prosperous time in history during the space race and was terrified of a Soviet victory. The USSR on the other had, had been crippled by WWII, since they did most of the fighting, and yet they beat the US in every single metric up to the moon landings. A crippled, literally communist country beat America repeatedly during America's finest hour. Funny that.
>>75658009
This. Denmark is barely larger than some of our smaller states. All of the social programs we already have in place go in disproportionate amounts to non-whites.
Our country would be in even worse debt and our economy would tank soon after if we applied the same kind of programs. You can't really expect wealthier citizens to pay for all of these programs. It just isn't possible if you do the math.
>>75670480
Merchants can easily get into the government if they wanted to. What makes you think giving all of the power to the government is going to stop jews. All that does is give jews guns laws and money.
>>75670480
>social programs for white men
So you basically want white men to become welfare queens.
>(so white men can improve themselves and contribute back to society)
Yeah let's take money from people buy with it shitty stuff for them and then give back less than they gave. Because wealth comes from Gubement Magic.
>protectionist economics (so merchants can't killshot our economy from outside)
>2016
>People believing in protectionism after the tarrif wars.
Also: Reading Frederic Bastiat's "Candlestic maker's Petition" should solve your problem.
>>75668724
I was referencing that welfare and state interference was a necessity, not a desire.
I dont want to fucking wait 3 hours in line for a piece of bread.
>>75671101
>Implying capitalism didn't exist before.
>Not even knowing the proper definition of capitalism or socialism
>Thinking there is any other system than socialsm or capitalism
Based Occupy Movement Retard.
>>75666610
There are about 1 million 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants in Denmark. That includes westerners, asians, etc.
>>75661951
Of course it can be recreated in the US. GDP/capita is larger in the US, make the taxes more progressive and get some of that free university. (Which will increase human capital and contribute to the growth)
>>75671491
>The point is that we do not want to have an bunch of "explicit written regulations
Exactly - you don't want regulations, and instead want a nigger market.
Except of course that's a lie - you actually just want a market skewed in the Merchant's favor, where whites dumbly carry on not advocating for their own interest.
That's it, that's all. Stop pretending otherwise.
>>75671126
It's actually the ideological birth of masters who care about their people and their nation.
But of course niggergenes and merchants can't comprehend that
>>75671101
P.S.
>Thinking making a bunch of cool-looking space things at the expense of the enslavement of the entire fucking nation plus the eastern block countries is a sucess.
>>75671569
the average income in Denmark is $4,500? im assuming this is a typo because that is literally less than a third of federal minimum wage.
>>75671886
> America's most prosperous time was the slave race
Kek. You socially believe this. It's only the most prosperous time in recent memory. And that's because after it hippies started voting for more socialist programs. They only seem line the best times because it was one of the last times America would ever be sane.
Guess what. Communism fails and will always fall.
Also I'm glad you ate now shoeshowing your colors. You are a great tool for jews
>>75670480
Of course the real cornerstone of a healthy white state is simply this: White racial solidarity.
Everything the merchants have done in the last 50-100 years has been aimed at conning whites into believing that it's wrong and evil for them to act in their own interests, while right and natural and inevitable for merchants, spics, niggers, and niggergenes to act in theirs.
It's just an ugly, dirty lie of people who hate you.
Stop listening. Start working together.
>>75672243
That would require:
1.) a huge fucking bucracracy to not be corrupt (ours is currently already huge and corrupt as it is)
2.) people who wouldn't abuse the system (we have millions and millions of niggers and spics who hate white people).
Also, the US's geographic and population scale makes it more difficult to micromanage. There will be many conflicts where the Feds try to shit on state sovereignty as well.
>>75672055
Ah I see. You're right, it is.
>>75672177
>Implying capitalism didn't exist before.
Of course it did. Most of human history is an exercise in what not to do.
>Not even knowing the proper definition of capitalism or socialism
>Being literally retarded
https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=socialism&oq=socialism&gs_l=serp.3..0l10.2391.2563.0.2979.2.2.0.0.0.0.116.231.0j2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..0.2.228...0i10.HFOcvcAmQ0w
>I literally can't use google
>Thinking there is any other system than socialsm or capitalism
Alright that's enough. Euthanize yourself. It's no wonder your country's such a trainwreck. I have to say, nobody beats Australia or Canada for shitposting, but I've rarely seen dumber posters than Greeks on this board. Even the actual Africans are more intelligent.
>>75672454
P.S.
>Excuses
>>75672530
Space race
>>75671569
The average wage in Denmark is 24.000DKK not, 30.000.
>>75658451
Socialism is just urbanism trying to rule large areas of land. Its inherently flawed since its allegiance is always to the biggest parasites in any country(the urban center)
>>75666330
The different types of socialism, isn't anything to pay attention to, but it is infuriating when Americans refer to social democracy as socialism. Social democracy works within the capitalist framework and is much more like liberal democracy than socialism. (That's why Denmark is not a poor genocide nation)
>>75655304
>"whats so bad about socialism"
>>75672735
*bureaucracy*
Fuck this phone, famalam.
>>75672838
>t is infuriating when Americans refer to social democracy as socialism
Also when lefties keep trying to label it as that; without realizing that the system is derived from wealth extracted from capitalist production; and that command economies suck ass.
>>75672843
This anon gets it.
>>75666548
why do you lie us? Internet still exists
>>75672036
>OY VEY, you don't want social programs and institutions that work to turn you into a productive person who contributes to his society! Social programs are for niggers so they can afford to spend their time murdering white people! You want to do the RIGHT thing and struggle alone in isolation. Whites working together? What are you, a NAZI?????????????????
Freemarketism really is exactly like feminism - once you recognize the small grab-bag of merchant tricks used to con you into supporting them they all become this pathetically obvious.
>>75671195
Yes, and anyone can become rich right? So it targets everyone equally.
>socialism
The means of production aren't in the hands of the people. The state simply taxes a lot and invests it into the young people.
The reasons that succeeds is because Denmark has a good gene pool, and the population is rather small.
What you need to understand is that in countries like this, a majority of the people can live the American Dream.
Then look at the USA, and who are the people making the American Dream possible? It's the portion of people that originate from these "dream states" of yours.
>>75673056
Slight errors, it's not even 2020 yet, you dumbshit.
Argue with the UN instead of me:
http://ww.rrojasdatabank.info/HDRP_2010_40.pdf
>>75672762
Most of human history is an exorcise in what not to do.
And there you have it. You think that somehow humans will evolve for a magical reason. It's not going to happen. Ever. We are animals and as animals we do everything for self interest. Sure youll give 5 bucks to charity but only if you have another 30 in your wallet.
What exactly is your master plan? Ok everyone in the world is a living misreable lives as slave to government. Whats next. You probably believe space exploration is important. Kek. We are all going to die one day. Id rather die free than as a slave to the government kike.
>>75671101
Socialism doesn't work if your objective is the stated goals of socailists(i.e. a better life for ALMOST EVERYONE). Socialism just leads to urbanism where the urban poor always have to suffer enough to be loyal and resources are squandered by an urban elite who are incapable of adapting to new situations.
This is why socialism always ends up with a black market that becomes symbiotic to the system. From the bluejeans and smuggled music in the Soviet Union to the imported Meth and slaves from Mexico, Urbanism can't survive by its own system and thus must use a criminal market just to survive.
Yeah, socialism has been tried and it doesn't work. Capitalism works and you can see it every day on places like Ebay, Alphabay, and the various SR clones. Urbanfags like you should be lynched.
>>75656544
You are not white anymore Denmark, you are full of arabs, eritreans and somalians that stay until death on social security. You are cucked beyond belief
>>75668143
I guess they didn't forecast all the rich fleeing the country
>>75666548
Translation:
>"I don't know what population sinks are"
Sweden is just using those people and will abort the lion's share of the next generations unless they can use them as a means of colonizing Somolia.
>>75673057
Remember:
- white racial solidarity
- reject anything that tries to inhibit white racial solidarity
And remember the basis for white solidarity: White people are simply better and more capable of producing strong, healthy, vibrant societies.
The nigs can't do it. The spics can't do it. The wogs can't do it. The niggergenes who get run out of healthy white communities can't do it. The merchants parasitize it.
Only whites can make it work.
>>75655304
When it killed hundreds of millions last century
>>75668724
That's not what "capitalism" is intended to do. We all know there is a mix of luck, skill, timing and hard work to be successful in a capitalist society. That makes it easier to be poor, since we all know that there is no certain way to success. But imagine being poor in a socialist country, where you are not only the most poor, you are, by definition, the worst worker. Imagine the stigmatization.
>>75673161
>and invests it into the young people.
I wouldn't call urban areas "young people". Genders studies degrees aren't a form of youth investment.
>>75672762
Semantics. The exact definition is never reflective of reality, or how those things are carried about.
>>75672843
>muh vuvuzela
>>75673056
>America #8
Kek. Not use the real one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI
>>75673463
>Muh it's the best system we have argument
Seriously, you retards need some new arguments.
>>75673805
Isn't one of libertarians' favorite quotes that shit about how we should judge outcome rather than intent? Capitalism ALWAYS turns out this way because those with wealth always want more and are willing to do whatever it takes to get it.
To the americans, the secret is not being socialist, but having a monarch.
So.. Do you have someone who is strong and doesn't take shit that you can declare Emperor?
>>75673696
>free market is Is like feminism
The reason feminism shit is because they can now vote for socialist policies babased on feels. That's all socialism really is. It's an economy if you put muh feels into the mix. Pro tip. It doesn't work.
>>75674061
Yeah, I think we do.
>>75674034
>Semantics.
>HURR I'M RETARDED CORRECT DEFINITIONS ARE FOR FAGS!! SOCIALISM IS WHAT MCCARTHY, REAGAN AND FOX NEWS TOLD ME IT WAS!!
>>75674143
Socialism is a very effeminate ideology. Women agree.
![Margrethe%20guffer[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xqoTaTx.jpg "Margrethe%20guffer[1].jpg")
>>75674061
This
>>75655723
>It started when ignorant people started being opinionated and parroting slogans created by the ruling class to turn them into useful idiots.
That's a really good explanation of socialism
