Sexual liberation was a mistake and every single time it's been done throughout history, the consequences have been terrible.
>inb4 degenerates and hedonists post non-arguments.
>>75633021
There's literally no defense of sexual liberation.
It undermines marriages, it creates the single biggest Welfare leeches (Single moms) and it jeopardizes a nation's future (Marriage rates go down, divorce rates go up, single motherhood goes up, children raised by single mothers are worse off in all aspects, & native populations fail to meet replacement rates)
So Muslims have a point?
>>75633170
Even a broken clock is right twice a day anon.
>>75633245
But isn't degeneracy just a bad thing in multicultural societies? I mean, here it's been pretty wonderful to have women who will fuck
>>75633339
On one hand, yeah easy sex is great; however, that's extraordinarily short-sighted.
It's an attitude that's the result of a desire for instant-gratification and low time preferences.
In your late teens and early 20s casual, no-strings-attached hookups are attractive prospects, but look at the chart above. The women who, now, will fuck, aren't marriage material.
Women who have sex outside of marriage (or lose their virginity to someone who doesn't go on to become their husband), are a huge risk to marry. When you take into account that most divorces are initiated by women, and the most common reason is 'dissatisfaction,' the acceptance of hookups and casual sex becomes much less appealing.
Hell, look at the USSR. In its early days it wasn't terribly multicultural; however, sexual liberation failed.
Lenin & Trotsky both were fairly "liberal" socially. Divorce was made easy, abortion was readily available, and society suffered horribly as a result. It took Stalin enforcing borderline-Puritanical measures to get the USSR back on course.
There are other periods where sexual liberation has been tried, but the data is obscured by time; that said, it doesn't seem to have worked anywhere.
>>75633641
You seem to forgetting that staying with one mate your entire life is unnatural for both men and women.
>>75633902
>muh appeal to nature
Civilizations happened because humans transcended nature.
There's not a shred of evidence to support the supposition that sexual promiscuity is beneficial to society. Conversely, there's loads of evidence to suggest that it's harmful and corrosive.
When men and women stay together for life, society functions better. Men stay engaged in their communities, and children are raised better. There's a very good reason that nearly all successful civilizations, and major religions have tried very hard to promote the family as a concept and regulate sexuality.
>>75633902
Delusional. Children are healthier in every way with their own father throughout their lives, as opposed to no father or a step father. If monogamy was unnatural, there would be no adverse effects to the child to either no father or a different father. This is all documented.
Bottom line - sexual liberation means switch from an k based mating strategy to an R based strategy. In doing so the birth rate drops. And leaves you wide open for invasion by an enemy tribe.
>>75634062
>>75634126
You guys are mistunderstanding me. I was talking about when people are young, let them have sex with as many as they want. When they get into their 30's they should stick with one.
>>75633641
How about we fuck around when we're young, have education provided to youth so they use protection get regular testing and understand risks, and then settle down when we're middle aged.
>>75633021
beta males don't like sexual libration because the only way they could get laid is using social structures, not raw sexual attraction
tldr: they're ugly and udnesirable
enjoy raising my child, faggots
>>75634126
Having fewer children is better for a large number of reasons. The only benefit to having more is potentially outbreeding the subhumans.
>>75634234
Been doing that for years anon. How's that working for us?
>birthrate lowering
>high IQ people NOT breeding, whilst lower IQ people breeding like rabbits
>sucking welfare from the productive class to feed their vampirism
![linear[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Fl3KYPB.jpg "linear[1].jpg")
>>75634219
>cock carousel until you're 30 then try to settle down
go away
>>75634219
Again, see the data here:
>>75633106
The more people a woman has sex with, the worse off she is.
More dicks taken means:
>Higher rates of marital unhappiness
>Higher rates of depression
>Lower quality marriage
>Lower marital stability
Then you run into issues like the prevalence of HPV (Which can cause head and neck cancer in the male partners of infected girls), or the correlation between promiscuity and infidelity/likelihood to divorce.
There's simply no benefit to it besides "easy sex."
I'm not trying to be a dick, but like I said before, that's the mentality of someone with low time preferences and a desire for instant gratification. Studies tend to show that blacks, on average, have lower time preferences than everyone else.
It's practically a nigger-tier ideology.
>>75634302
>Acting alpha on /pol/.
>On 4chan.
Why does one person always have to do dumb shit and shitpost.
>>75634348
You're not going to... in any universe whatsoever.... lol
Cultures that exalt and idolize women and sex are being rapidly out bred by cultures that control and subjugate them. This is nature telling you something.
>>75633021
but muh dick
>>75634234
Again, that doesn't change the data that I've already posted here:
>>75633106
and referenced here:
>>75634437
>>75634348
No, it's really not. Whites are below population replacement levels. The decline of native-births are part of the justification for mass, third-world immigration (We need more people to prop up X, Y & Z!).
>>75634302
Not an argument, nigger.
Sex isn't hard to get today. Finding a girl worth marrying is.
>enjoy raising my child
Implying I'd marry a girl who isn't a virgin.
Enjoy the HIV, Tyrone.
>>75633021
t. neckbeard kissless virgin
>>75634219
you're such a fucking faggot.
troll go away
>>75634621
t. Britainistani LARPing as an alpha online.
>tfw /pol/ could be renamed to /islam/ and it would actually make sense
Honestly, islam's view on things aren't nearly as degenerate as the current liberal world we live in. Sure they have their drawbacks but compared to the non stop degeneracy I see every time I turn on the TV or look at a politically correct website it's not that bad.
[Double standard comment about how the feeling of my penis is more important than society as a whole]
I'm totally red-pilled, the feminist wanting to destroy our culture due to their feelings are a totally different thing !
>>75634690
Omfg fuck off ahmed, mudslimes are prime degenerate they got no values, how can you be over represented in crimes and dare say you have values ?
Hey guys i'm totally not degenerate, that's why i rape, steal, leech off socialism and enforce my backward view on everyone ! totally red pilled guys xDDDDDDD
>>75634420
I'm all in agreement with the cock carousel being a negative thing, but I also feel that whatever the equivalent for men is, cannot be good either. I'm 21 and have slept with two women - both of which I largely regret because clearly it wasn't meant to be. I never wanted to have slept with two women at 21. Am I a man-whore? Should I feel ashamed? (I do, particularly when I think about wanting to find a woman)
>>75634698
>t. the useful idiots of feminism
muh dik
>>75634690
Let's be honest, the bar is set pretty fucking low.
Islam's shit for a host of reasons, though, anon. Also, I hate to break it to you, but that sounds awfully close to a Muslim Brotherhood tactic.
>ally with Alinskyist cultural movements (MB ties to the Interfaith movement)
>Support liberalism
>Help a cultural revolution
>After society crumbles, offer a counter revolution.
Assuming you're not MIDF, go watch Stephen Coughlin's Redpill Documentary on Jewtube. He's a well-educated guy that talks about that.
>>75633902
Reminder that girls who grow up without fathers will undergo first menstruation much earlier than those that do have fathers, and early menarche is maybe the most r-selected trait there ishttp://news.berkeley.edu/2010/09/17/puberty/
>>75634607
Declining birth rate is a good thing and those justifications are god damned retarded. I really don't understand why thy think they can use declining birth rates to justify mass migration. They're worried about the ways in which overpopulation will affect the environment, water supply, thin job market? Well now that our birth rates are heading in the right direction, let's import millions of more worthless people. For the economy. Because that's sustainable and healthy!
God damn it, I fucking hate that argument. Don't even let them use the declining population argument. Make them feel like a brainless asshole for even going there.
>tfw a newly married woman with 1 baby regularly texts me sexual things and sends me nudes on the grounds of "youre easy to talk to and dont judge me" and "would my husband like this?"
>her husband knows and considers it okay
>ive been slowly ramping up sexual conversations adding in more lines of "we should fuck" and "i think your husband is a pussy"(which he is)
>shes slowly coming over to my side of the fence as weeks go on
I dont plan on takin care of her or her kid, but i will fuck her brains out when i get the chance.
Thank you, sexual liberation, for letting this woman believe its okay to be a bit wild even when married, and for her husband to accept it all in a sidelined beta state.
>>75634821
I know the feeling m8. If it brightens your day, note the article on the top left.
A few studies have been done on this. The jury's still out, but data suggests the effect is somewhere between none to minimal.
The real drawback of male promiscuity is that it either despoils women, or requires a permanent underclass of whores.
>>75633245
Really makes u think
>>75634949
Overpopulation is more of a problem than declining pop.
Declining pop is actually beneficial since we are in a job and ressource crisis, I want this meme to die too. But gotta pay boomers' retirement)))
>>75633170
Damn he's right.
Only because it was one sided.
If it were both ways, an average guy could walk into a bar and be swamped by average girls begging for a fuck. That's the real issue with feminism, it completely failed mutuality.
>>75633021
>sexual liberation was a mistake every single time it's been done in history
source, pls
>>75634949
>Declining birth rate is a good thing.
Not really, anon. Not when we're below replacement levels.
Not when (in America) we're getting outbred by Hispanics. Hell, Europe nowadays needs more white babies.
Remember that "Do it for Denmark!" campaign a while back?
Declining birth rates are a pretty big issue.
>>75633021
> betafag 4ever virgin detected
What's the matter, OP? Spending all your time waxing your wand and no girls will give you the time of day?
Must suck to be you.
>>75633021
How is it hedonism to let people do what they like while not harming others?
>>75633021
Who is this seed steed?
>>75635073
Just look at the Lenin/Trotsky days of the USSR, Poortugal.
>>75634974
That's really interesting. I wonder why there's that disparity between men and women.
Still, feels bad to have been complicit in the despoliation of women at large :/
>>75633021
Just get laid for once and stop worrying about the future of civilization.
You're never going to change anything so just get that dick wet. I bet you might even find a prostitute to fuck if you try really hard.
I agree. But I don't see a problem with sex before marriage, and I don't have a problem with a woman who may of had 2 or 3 previous partners. Peoppe get in a relationship, them realise they dint like it along the way. People can fall out.
>>75634302
I'm very average looking, and I have no problem pulling decent looking women.
>>75633021
The way I see it op is that women have always been slutty in the west. In the past they just hid it better.
I'd much rather sluts be openly slutty then pretending to be good girls desu.
I think it also helps men realize that their woman isn't a unicorn. Most guys I know are quite aware that there's nothing special about the bitch they're fucking and that she's just another slut.
50 years ago and those same sluts would've had their providers tricked into thinking they're good girls while fucking the football team behind his back.
>>75635106
Not an argument.
>>75635115
>he·don·ism
>noun: hedonism
>the pursuit of pleasure; sensual self-indulgence.
Gee, I wonder. And yes, it does harm others, it harms the foundation of society.
If you're so concerned about liberty, think of the toll that the single mothers will take on your wallet.
>>75635106
it matters if you want to raise kids and have a stable traditional family. it's the absolute worst time to do this in the west. societal trends, even though they might be 'not my business' as I'm not involved in them, can still affect me negatively.
>>75635106
>haha ur a virgin xd!
is not pertinent at all to anything he's saying. this ad hom is literally just the white woman's version of "muh dik"
additionally, you operate on the assumption that nobody could possibly be voluntarily celibate, which is extremely stupid.
>>75635115
the entire point of this thread is the harm done to society
>>75635195
that's certainly not every single time in history
do you have any study on the history marriage or something related to support your claim?
>>75635284
On your wallet and on their own children, as well as my own, as they grow up to influence them as peers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1xf78EltKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMYX__Z6hvE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjXT-Bg0Lmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAqL2A6V6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hbDwEAGlQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riOckwje6Bc
ATTENTION THREAD, REQUIRED LISTENING. DO NOT POST HERE UNTIL YOU HAVE LISTENED TO THESE AND READ THE SOURCES IF YOU'RE STILL IN DOUBT.
>>75635248
There were less beta provider men back in the day.
And women were brought up more moral by 2 parents instead if a single mother.
There also wasn't a brainwashing media.
>>75635197
It's not a great feeling, but at least we can go forward knowing that we're not irreparably damaged like women are.
>>75635213
>Don't worry about the future of civilization, just grant amnesty to illegals.
>Don't worry about the future of Europe, just make some refugee friends.
This effects everyone on a personal level, anon. Yeah, a hookup isn't hard to get. Thanks to this degeneracy, a decent wife is. Unless of course, you're willing to overlook the chance of divorce, which again, most women initiate with the most common reason being 'dissatisfaction.'
>>75635248
They actually haven't, though. 50 years ago, they were. That would've been the mid 60s, right when the cultural Marxist revolution was beginning to really take off.
>>75635245
Eh, you might be more tolerant of it than I am. I watched my grandfather and father get completely ruined because of women, so I'd rather not take the chance.
I met a qt at church, and have been hitting it off with her. She's barely legal, but super sheltered and according to the grapevine, hasn't had a relationship before. Wish me luck, lads.
>>75634949
You fail to see how there isn't "one humanity" in this context. Declining birth rates wouldn't be such a problem if they weren't soaring amongst certain peoples. Just a century ago, Europeans outnumbered Africans by a large margin. In mere decades, we will be outnumbered by them 3:1. Within the current discourse, the claim on our resources to support their increasing numbers will increase whilst our numbers dwindle. This can to some extent be compensated by an increase in automatisation, but this also has a side effect of disenfranchisement of lower educated (both here and of course in the third world) and as such the world will leech off a very small caste of educated Westerners.
>>75635248
the problem is that when you let them be openly slutty, the proportion of slutty girls increases. I do understand you and agree with on principle but the proportion of sluts relative to all women is not fixed. If the media started heavily idolizing angelical girls again you'd see a lot of women changing.
>>75634815
That post really triggered you huh?
Expected from a black country desu
>>75633339
The point is when you start looking for wife and there is no wife material around.
>>75635352
Oh Jesus Christ you're thick.
So you're ignoring the massive failure of sexual liberation now, you're ignoring the current data on it. You're ignoring the abysmal results of it in the USSR. You're ignoring the fact that societies with sexual promiscuity that should've gotten off the ground (Like the Mosuo Chinese and their "walk-in marriages) absolutely failed.
Anon, sexual liberation is indefensible unless all you care about is freedom, and instant gratification.
Suffrage was the first mistake.
>>75635588
>a decent wife is
Only in cucked cities.
>>75633106
good to be remninded how alpha i am
>13 in 9 months
kek
>>75635184
Does anyone know who she is? I need to have sex with her
>>75633902
>staying with one mate your entire life is unnatural
Know what else is "unnatural":
1. low infant mortality rates,
2. not dying of infectious diseases,
3. not murdering your enemies,
4. not raping women,
5. living in homes instead of caves,
6. using the fucking internet
natural =/= good
unnatural =/= bad
Civilization, in it's entirety, is unnatural and is vastly preferable to a natural life.
>>75635757
You've named 3 so far. Is it that hard to find a study on the topic if you are that confident that sexual promiscuity has such a big impact on the historical outcome of societies?
>>75635248
>>75635497
Totally wrong.
It has to do with 3 things:
>urban anonimity
Women can now be completely slutty and get away with it, without being "the village bicycle"
Women shame other women for being sluts, because it devalues sex for themselves as a witholding/bargaining tool for a relationship or marriage.
>the pill
Women were indeed just as slutty back in the day, they simply knew the cost of being slutty. Eventually a child would pop out. I think the official estimate is that 3 months of unprotected sex will result in pregnancy.
The pill changed everything. Why do you think its called the "sexual revolution"?
Women now can fuck for fun WITHOUT THE ONE THING KEEPING THEM FROM BEING SLUTS.
(I would add condoms as STD preventers, but we all know that sluts whore it up without a condom)
>financial independence
In resource rich environments women dont need a provider (not necessarily a beta) and therefore go for the Alpha, which she wont be able to lock down, because said sluts have devalued sex to such an extent, that Chad gets it for free and if she wants to tie him down by withholding, then hell next her.
>>75635989
You have examples and all of the data you need.
If you're so dead-set on pretending it's okay, how about you actually defend your point, instead of asking for more evidence, when ample evidence has been provided.
PUA faggots are as bluepilled and degenerate as feminists. They are a literal equivalent to feminists because once their looks and charm drops off due to age they will die miserable and alone.
>>75633339
Easy sex is why the world has the US
>>75633106
>creates the single biggest Welfare leeches (Single moms)
lmao, my mum never took welfare and started up her own business despite having to support me through school.
Way to show how much of an ignorant faggot you are.
>>75636239
>muh anecdote invalidates verifiable data and trends.
Nice flag, m8. You almost had me.
>>75634219
>>75636239
Wew Lad.
So your mum deviated from the norm, who cares?
Majority of single mothers are welfare leeches.
Majority is the key word retard.
>>75633021
no self respecting hedonist would defend the sexual liberation
>>75636239
Nice mate, my mum and my stepmum both had no jobs and leeched of my dad until I finished highschool and my mum got a job
>>75633021
>tfw Sociology course
/pol/ was right, the place is Marxism HQ. Not only do we have red fists as posters around the place, but we're taught constantly about the wonders of Feminism, gender isn't real, white male privilege and I have an assignment currently based around discrimination against women. Also, apparently our Islamophobia is a morale panic, and my teacher has likened it to the witch hunting.
I've never heard the word "Marx" tossed around so much in an academic environment, we're even going to learn about Critical Theory and the Frankfurt School later since it's in the text book... And furries. Yes, Furries are a future topic of discussion.
>Sexual liberation of women is good! No more contraception! Women can have as much sex as they want and wear what ever they wish
Next lesson
>Men sexualizing women is misogyny and a great tragedy, we should live in an equal society where no one is looked upon as sexual objects
How fucking stupid can these people be? The double standard is ridiculous.
>>75635659
Also women craze attention and the whore showing the most skin at the bar gets all the looks...
It's a downward spiral of female competition to who can be the most slutty for male attention..
The only was to save it is a complete society collapse and war..
The only upside now is abortion so when women are raped by the invaders they can cut the spawn out of themselves before destroying the gene pool.
>>75636092
I'm not pretending anything.
You just keep claiming something and not backing it up.
>>75633106
>first graph: effects of early sexual activity on promiscuity
How do we know this "cause" and "effect" aren't both the effects of being really hot?
Maybe some people fuck younger and more often because they're a lot more fuckable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>75636843
Notice how I've provided data and examples.
>>75633021
ITT: a few women (sluts) try to defend their cock riding for the past several years.
Sorry bitches, odds are you will never have a happy marriage because of your shitty behavior.
OP: 110% agreed. No religious arguments needed. No pro/anti gay marriage arguments needed. None of that crap needed. Just look at the facts... statistics of STD rates, divorce rates, etc. etc. etc..... shit's depressing as fuck.
Happy to be married and my wife gave me her V card. I only had one other woman before her who I also thought I was going to marry. It has zero impact on our relationship and I never think about her, unlike women who will constantly crave other cock, if given the taste even once.
>mfw the other day a female friend asked over dinner, 'from a guy's perspective what's it like to decide you will only have one pussy for the rest of your life? how do you do that?'
>sloots gonna sloot
>>75635248
>The way I see it op is that women have always been slutty in the west. In the past they just hid it better.
How would you honestly know? Your basing it on nothing. There have always been sluts and infidelity, but they were never encouraged or glorified and defended like today. We have abandoned all discipline or self control, we are devolving in to Niggers.
I'd bet my nan has a lower sausage count then any of the sloots I've dated
>>75636907
You provided 3 examples, 2 of them without data. Not that good. To back your claim you need to have an actual study with hundreds of different societies being tested. Also, you need to carefully mention the cases that do not confirm your hypothesis, even if they are a small minority.
>>75633021
>can't pull any pussy
>complains about it on an anime image board
Every time
>>75637862
M8, it's well known that the USSR had horrible fucking policies on divorce, abortion and recognizing illegitimates.
(http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1926/07/the-russian-effort-to-abolish-marriage/306295/)
I would really recommend that you do further reading, because apparently you're not at all familiar with well-known history.
You're ignoring that the data required to conduct such a study is a relatively recent point of interest.
Unless human sexuality and biology has drastically changed recently, and there's no reason to assume it has, you're really grasping at straws.
Now, if you're so autistic as to latch onto a single point of rhetoric and go "nuh uh, prove it!" come to the table with some data or go REEE about whores being okay over on Reddit.
>>75638415
>pulling pussy
>hard
>2016
Not an argument, fag.
If fucking whores, instant gratification and shortsightedness is your thing, you're either literally a nigger, or you're an honorary one.
>>75633339
Degeneracy is how you get a multicult society.
Degeneracy is great for niggergenes who are good at getting laid, but it's shit for guys who aren't good at getting laid. And I get it, nobody anywhere cares about guys who aren't good at getting laid, but then, shock: those guys stop caring about your society, and since those guys are the ones who would have spent their time caring about society while guys who are good at getting laid spend their time getting laid, society falls apart. Because if all the girls are off getting raped by you and the rest of the niggergene Chads, who gives a shit if they get raped a few times by Jamal or Iqbal, too?
But then, niggergenes who are good at getting laid are probably also the most likely to survive if society falls apart, so maybe it works out okay for you in the end.
>>75638565
Guess the vast majority of men these days are niggers, then. Stay beta
>>75638827
Nice argument :^)
I'm really glad that data and history are just handwaved away by people LARPing as alphas on the internet.
>Studies show that women who aren't virgins are literally not marriage material and come with huge risks
>lol ur just a virgin autist beta xDDDDDDD
>Studies show that race is real, IQ is heritable, and that there are differences between the races that go far beyond skin.
>lol ur just a white trash racist, Nobel laureate Dr. James Watson xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>75639057
Nobody gives a shit about marriage, mate.
>>75639224
>Nobody gives a shit about the building block of civilizations.
>>75639567
It won't be a building block in the new global world, and there's nothing your complaining will do about it
>>75633021
The only reason you feel this way is because it makes you recognize the complete exposability of the average male. There's no reason to fear the sharper division in males that comes from the emergence of sexual liberation, sans the fear that you will be one of the disposable ones. Literally only beta's see this outcome as bad, because they are the only ones who are worse off for it.
>>75636892
>>75633106
Tbh I think the correlation is wrong. Unhappy girls fuck earlier and more often leading also to being leeches.
They would still be unhappy if they wouldn't get fucked so early.
As someone who has no interest in family life, I love sexual lib.
Sue me tbhfam
>>75636239
several deviations do not nullify the entirety of the data, retard.
Single moms as a whole don't do much but leech. I'm glad your mother did something but her demographic is a strain on society.
>>75639804
It always had been, unless there's some massive change in human sexuality, it always will be.
>>75639812
>If you recognize the effects of cultural Marxism you're obviously a beta.
You're a fucking idiot, m8. Society as a whole is worse off for it, and this has been proven.
Enjoy dysgenics, rising single motherhood (and the quasi-socialist state that this will demand), a complete and total breakdown of the family, etc.
Nice armchair psychoanalysis though. Hang yourself.
>>75639873
The early effects of sexual activity aren't as damning as the effects of sexual promiscuity overall; however, it does tend to support the suggestion that the delay of sex (within reason) tends to be better (Though that's more anti-pedophilia/ephebophilia than anti-promiscuity).
>>75639923
>As someone who likes kebab, I love the Islamization of Europe.
Come on, fAm.
>>75640230
>dysgenics
An entirely subjective concept. In most societies, deformaties are on a significant decline world wide, and in the United States it has been virtually unmoved since the sexual revolution.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5701a2.htm
>Rising single motherhood
A bigger problem of the gender biased court system that views men as disposable, something I've already noted. The incentives for women to leave or never end up with the father of their child are much greater than they used to be. This has nothing to do with the rise of sexual freedom.
>A complete and total breakdown of the family
Exactly the same cause. Not the result of sexual liberation in anyway
Personal attacks, just like the above vague, poorly considered statements on your part, are not arguments. They are how one signals that he has no argument.
>>75640790
Also, dysgenics is a result in part from stronger medical technologies and practices, which improve the rate at which those with such disabilities will survive.
>>75639923
you're the problem. grats. not only do you not want family (which is the core of a well-functioning society) you actively participate in the degeneracy.
>>75634437
>Then you run into issues like the prevalence of HPV (Which can cause head and neck cancer in the male partners
The threat is real. Actor Michael Douglas got oral cancer from it.
>>75640790
>
An entirely subjective concept. In most societies, deformaties are on a significant decline world wide, and in the United States it has been virtually unmoved since the sexual revolution.
I'm speaking of IQ, which is heritable, not deformities.
> A bigger problem of the gender biased court system that views men as disposable, something I've already noted. The incentives for women to leave or never end up with the father of their child are much greater than they used to be. This has nothing to do with the rise of sexual freedom.
You're completely ignoring the data which indicates that the more partners a woman has:
>The more likely she is to be depressed
>The less likely she is to be in a stable marriage
>The more likely she is to be divorced
etc.
This is the result of the sexual liberation.
>Exactly the same cause. Not the result of sexual liberation in anyway.
See the above.
>>75640790
You were the one that started off with attacks.
Congratulations, you've completely ignored the provided data, and missed the bit about dysgenics. Bravo.
>>75640934
>you're the problem.
No, the problem is stupid people breeding too much.
Things would be fine if we weren't overpopulated with the offspring of low IQ mouthbreathers.
Society would run a lot smoother without all the chaff
>>75641222
can confirm. was raised by a single mother. i remember seeing my dad twice. he's already dead, and i barely knew him. luckily i got born with some wits and intelligence, so i haven't ended up in jail or killed myself yet.
>>75641448
>>75641222
Same here. He was an alcoholic for all I know, but I haven't exactly talked to anyone that knows him about him so I have no idea of the details. He's dead now too.
I'm a depressed university dropout and underachiever that thankfully is smart and lucky enough to get a well-paying job. Feels bad.
I'm going to smack sense into any of my friends that have kids and try to put their child through this shit. Luckily, I may not have to.
>>75641039
>I'm speaking of IQ, which is heritable, not deformities.
You have an even bigger problem then. While the sexual liberation has had no impact on deformaties, since the liberation, IQ has actually consistently risen.
>Sweden
Rising IQs
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393208004429
>U.S.
Rising IQs
http://pps.sagepub.com/content/10/3/282.abstract
This one is my favorite, since it's even a meta analysis
>The more likely she it to be depressed
Not an argument. The fatter someone is, the more likely they are to be depressed. It isn't a valid argument for rationing food.
>The less likely she is to be in a stable marriage.
The research suggesting this was methodologically flawed. It had small sample sizes, lacked a method for controlling variables such as reason for marrying their partner (someone who marries the first person they sleep with because "he/she's the one" is likely to be happier and more stable in marriage than someone who dated around and eventually just settled because he/she couldn't find "the one," and many, many other serious variables that likely had much greater influence on the outcome. It's value is trash.
>more liekly she is to be divorced.
See the above.
>You were the one that started off with attacks.
Nope. Didn't insult anyone.
I didn't say anyone in this thread was a beta, I said the only reason to worry about it is if you are a beta. People worry about things for no reason all the time. Like fat women carrying rape whistles, there's no serious concern here for anyone whose opinion would matter.
>>75638616
>>75633106
One thing about all this is you know, we talk about degeneracy and slutting around and mudslimes and niggers invading but I think there's an earlier point in the civilizational death spiral that we're all missing, because we've mostly never had it in our lives, which is community. Shared values are a big part of it, and a lot of people are aware of what we've lost with the death of Christianity as a cultural force, but a lot of it is just people living in the same place, knowing the same people your whole life, knowing the same families for generatoins, working together, and caring about each other. Parents taking care of their children, children taking care of their parents. People taking care of each other's children and parents.
Psychopathic globalist and community destroyer Big Hill "The Mountain" Clittin' once said "it takes a village to raise a child" which was characteristically stupid of her because the actual point is that it takes a village to raise *a village*.
So when a given person's life path is (no "this is not my exact life path, your words can't be true!!!!!!!" autism, please)
>grow up in a suburb where nobody knows or gives a shit about their neighbors
>go to school with one group of people for a few years (with classes shuffled every year)
>get thrown into a bigger school with a new group of people for a few years, and now we shuffle you between six or seven different classes
>get thrown into an even bigger school than that
>move 100-3000 miles away to go to the biggest school for a few years (at least there you get dormies)
>move somewhere for a job and live there for a few years
>get a new job and move where that job is and live there for a few years
>>75642178
Maybe when you take that, plus the (((killshot))) on christianity, plus the (((killshot))) on white identity, what you end up with is a society where we don't know each other, we don't recognize each other,we don't understand each other, and we don't trust each other, we don't work together to help each other, and so we end up not giving a shit about anybody else.
And maybe that's when marriage starts to breaks down because maybe it's fucking stupid to try to pair bond and establish long-term relationships when nothing anywhere is long-term. Maybe women start hating any man who tries to be a friendly decent person because some deep part of their brain is going WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY I DON'T KNOW HIM and throwing themselves at the nearest niggergene Chad because that's the best option in a situation where that same deep part of your brain is telling you that you're alone in the wilderness with nobody looking out for you so it's time to throw yourself at the biggest meanest buck you can find and hope the kid you squat out after he ditches you will be able to survive.
And of course this huge yawning gap of knowledge among us about ourselves and the people around us is this huge opening for YKW to insert more merchant fairytales about how every other white person is evil and how women are supposed to throw themselves at bucks and oppressed (harassed! abused! raped!) by men trying to court and get to know them and how white men are supposed to cuck to Chad and Tyrone to make up for the crime of being white and how of course we're supposed to open our borders to Juan and Iqbal because who the fuck are we to think we deserve to have a country? In fact who the fuck are we to think we even have a country? We don't even have a fucking neighborhood.
>>75642219
And maybe this is all bullshit, but you know who seems to be going strong (although the very fact that I'm aware of this makes me think that the merchants must be coiling up to take a big shot at them) is the amish. And you know who not very many women leave to go whore it up in the city? is the amish. And if you ask the sjews about this they say "well of course they don't leave because then they get cut off and lose connection to their family or community or anything and isn't that terrible of those amish people to do" and I'm like "you mean like the community and family that none of the rest of us has now?"
>>75633021
There's no sexual liberation, but opression.
>>75633021
Yeah but this time we have the pill
>>75642029
>Flynn Effect meme
Oh boy
http://www.amren.com/news/2014/08/iq-scores-are-decreasing-and-some-experts-argue-its-because-humans-have-reached-their-intellectual-peak/
http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2013/05/23/Last-century-Western-nations-lost-an-average-14-IQ-points/UPI-77081369362633/?spt=hs&or=hn
>Not an argument. The fatter someone is, the more likely they are to be depressed. It isn't a valid argument for rationing food.
Nobody's asking the government to ration anything. I'm advocating for a change in the culture.
When you take into account that the majority of divorces are initiated by women, with the most common reason being 'dissatisfaction.' Depression (and the host of other things) becomes a problem for ANY man.
>The research suggesting this was methodologically flawed. It had small sample sizes, lacked a method for controlling variables such as reason for marrying their partner (someone who marries the first person they sleep with because "he/she's the one" is likely to be happier and more stable in marriage than someone who dated around and eventually just settled because he/she couldn't find "the one," and many, many other serious variables that likely had much greater influence on the outcome. It's value is trash.
That's literally not an argument, friend. It boils down to you flinging as many things as you possibly can, seeing what sticks, and "discrediting" it.
There's been no serious refutation of this.
> say anyone in this thread was a beta, I said the only reason to worry about it is if you are a beta. People worry about things for no reason all the time. Like fat women carrying rape whistles, there's no serious concern here for anyone whose opinion would matter.
Great pilpul. You're truly masterful
>>75639224
>niggers don't give a shit about marriage, mate
yes gibsy, we know
>>75641222
My dad jumped town when he found out my mom was pregnant leaving her to raise me and my twin brother. But she's the piece of shit in this situation. OKAY.
>>75633106
>there's only one single concept for how to live your lifes and it's cocincidentally like I want to live
>>75642749
Exactly. ITT: authoritarians.
>>75642663
>he thinks that was the point of the graphic
Yep definitely raised by a single mother :^)
although if she got knocked up out of wedlock that certainly was a dumb decision
>>75642663
Personal anecdotes don't disprove data (Divorce being initiated most by women).
>>75642749
>Data is wrong because it confines me to what I consider a very narrow life
>>75642797
>2016
>still a libertarian.
You don't live in a bubble, your actions have an impact on the world around you. I don't want to have to deal with the consequences of your irresponsibility.
>>75634219
>You guys are mistunderstanding me. I was talking about when people are young, let them have sex with as many as they want. When they get into their 30's they should stick with one.
>woman detected
>>75642546
>There's been no serious refutation of this
Actually, that's exactly what that was. If the research is flawed in a fundamental way (as it was here) it's basically worthless. Saying "that's not a refutation" means nothing.
It's like getting your ass beat and then saying you've never lost. Just becasue you say it over and over to yourself at night, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
And yes, it is now clear that you are nothing but a beta, afraid you will be cucked because you can't satisfy your partner. Dissatisfaction is only a problem for betas, by it's definition.
>>75642890
Yeah the blame is all on her right? My dad didn't make a poor decision by cheating on his wife with my mom or not using protection or sticking around for his kids.
>>75642663
>she's the piece of shit in this situation
she threw herself at your piece of shit dad instead of a stable guy who wouldn't jump town and gave birth to you and your niggergene brother who are going to grow up to jump town on the sluts that you two knock up instead of kids who would give a shit about civilization so yes, she is. And so is your father. And so are you.
but also maybe none of you are, because your parents were reacting to deep (lack-of) social factors beyond their control, and you will be when you do it, too, because all of us are just getting deeply, incredibly jewed.
For whatever that's worth to you.
>>75642546
Also, news stories aren't a valid response to peer-reviewed research. So you've done nothing to contradict the evidence that IQ's are sky rocketing. it literally doesn't even make sense for IQ's to have reached their peak. It's an arbitrary average and people have already far surpassed it, meaning that these cannot by definition be the peak. It's one of the most poorly thought out defenses I've ever seen.
Civilized society can only thrive if most men are given obedient wives.
Giving women any rights was the mistake.
>>75633170
That's not just Muslims but all traditional civilisations.
>>75642925
So what if divorce is initiated more by women? If it were initiated more by men you'd defend it that it's because women can't satisfy their husbands. If this is all about family values and shit, maybe men should do a better job at satisfying their wives.
>>75643079
>Yeah the blame is all on her right?
Are you retarded? You actually think the point of the graphic was to blame single mothers and not show the problems associated with single mother parenthood? How did you manage to make a post here? You can't see that the first line was to grab attention and keep people reading the large (for 4chan) body of words.
That said, you seem to want to blame just your father but what about your mother getting with a married man?
>but he lied about it
and she didn't do her due diligence and got into bed with him without knowing enough about him.
>not using protection
So what he tricked your mother again? She didn't insist? Whatever, like I said the point wasn't to put all the blame on women.
>>75643042
Deep niggergene thinking ITT based in not being capable of caring whether any of his offspring live or die
>>75633902
Unnatural behaviour doesn't exist.
humans are a plague on earth and i welcome less annoying babies to deal with and more dead humans.
>>75643042
I'm aware; however, the research is not fundamentally flawed.
You're implying you've kicked someone's ass, except you never bothered to show up for the fight, much less throw a punch.
You're posting opinions, and presenting them as facts, and solid refutations. This is Sargon of Cuckkad-tier.
>And yes, it is now clear that you are nothing but a beta, afraid you will be cucked because you can't satisfy your partner. Dissatisfaction is only a problem for betas, by it's definition.
So you've literally reverted to
>muh virgin beta autist
with some subtle "muh dick." Fantastic shitposting.
>>75643302
Men should do a better job beating their wives.
>>75643391
>Opinions
>I've sourced three peer-reviewed studies, you've done nothing but post your opinion
Sure dude, you keep that delusion up, maybe it'll come true one day. I'm off though, have a nice day worrying about your inability to satisfy the women that aren't ever going to choose you anyway.
Also, I never called you a virgin. It's like you want people to know. Might as well post it one cuckbook.
>>75643151
Also, news stories aren't a valid response to peer-reviewed research.
Said stories reference peer-reviewed research. You were pretending to be intelligent, I had figured you'd actually TRY to read them.
>>75643302
>So what if divorce is initiated more by women?
That means that, in the majority of cases, single motherhood IS the fault of women.
>If it were initiated more by men you'd defend it that it's because women can't satisfy their husbands.
No, I actually wouldn't. Kill yourself.
>If this is all about family values and shit, maybe men should do a better job at satisfying their wives.
Maybe women shouldn't become whores and fuck themselves up in the long run?
>baww why don't the stupid bitches fuck me
>>75642391
dat picture makes no fucking sense, which is just natural given how it doesn't even try.
>>75642029
>It had small sample sizes
Can you cite / prove this?
>lacked a method for controlling variables
Do you have any actual basis for believing that these imagined "variables" matter or are you just looking for any excuse to discredit data that you don't like?
>>75643552
Why would I ever waste my time reading politically biased nonsense and giving it views when you could have posted the actual links to the material that matters? I'm not wading through pointless bullshit beyond your non-arguments for you. If you want your sources to matter, post the part that actually matters, or don't bother.
>>75643552
>You were pretending to be intelligent
>pretending to be intelligent
>pretending
I don't think this is possible.
>>75643556
>more gibsposting itt
>>75643664
>Is there any actual basis people wanting be initially happy with their spouse being a variable in how likely they are to be divorced because they were dissatisfied with their partner.
You understand that this is what you just asked me, and how absolutely idiotic it you are being, right?
Like, this is mental retardation levels of stupid.
>>75643533
One wasn't relevant, the other two fail to take into account a number of things.
>you've only posted your opinion.
I opened with accurate, and relevant data. You dismissed that baselessly.
>I never called you a virgin
>people never, ever simplify and exaggerate things to prove a point.
Literally retarded.
>>75643556
>implying fucking is the problem
>Humans have a natural desire for sugar. It used to be hard to come by, but its not now. We shouldn't eat too much, otherwise we run a high risk of becoming fat sacks of shit.
>You're just mad because you can't afford candybars.
>>75643302
>If this is all about family values and shit, maybe men should do a better job at satisfying their wives.
it's amazing how niggergenes itt demonstrate over and over again that literally the only concept they have of "family" is "stick muh dick inna hole" followed by "stick muh dick inna hole again"
>>75643805
>one wasn't relevant
Which one
>fail to take into account a number of things
Such as?
And all I post are opinions? Your post wasn't even that. They were just vague word salads.
>>75642334
Chaste women save society
Sluts and whores bern it down
>>75643783
You can just come out and admit you have no meaningful basis for your glib and shallow suppositions
It's okay, i won't judge you
>>75633021
The Greeks and the Romans didn't have nuclear fusion weapons to defend against the nomad hordes
>>75642414
All that does is reduce the chance of having a kid while skyrocketting the amount of unprotected sex that happens
The pregnancy rate doesn't change that much when you combine the two with immigration
>>75633021
Having sex is great, maybe if you tried it you wouldn't be such a sourpuss
>>75633021
>Sexual liberation was a mistake and every single time it's been done throughout history, the consequences have been terrible.
LMAO
you must not get any pussy
>>75633021
who cares
let it all burn
LET IT ALL BURN
Life has no value, society has no value, history and tradition mean nothing.
>>75644148
>>75644233
Nice arguments.
>>75644242
It's all certain to go anyway, at this point we're merely haggling about the expiration date.
>>75643805
Fucking is the problem because the 85% of beta men need to have a reason to live and sacrifice everything for their society.
The one thing men will give everything for is a loving woman
>>75643939
>Which one
The CDC data on deformities.
>Such as?
Despite the fact that IQ is, to an extent, heritable, education has a small, but noticeable effect on IQ. The Flynn effect (what you were referencing) is based on IQ increasing due to said educational disparities.
(http://ehlt.flinders.edu.au/education/iej/articles/v2n4/GUSTAF/PAPER.PDF)
tl;dr: You completely misapplied the Flynn Effect.
>And all I post are opinions? Yours wasn't even that. They were just vague word salads.
I have data on my side, there's no need for snide pomposity.
>>75644047
Okay, and your excuse for the results in the USSR?
>>75633021
Solution
>bring more shitskins & niggers in
>shitskins & niggers gonna rape
>most women will be too afraid to walk a single step outside.
>let them suffer
>watch society tear itself apart while grinning
>SHTF
>Happening
>marauding shitskins
>women turn to white capable men for protection
>form deathsquads
>restore our glory
I wonder why its always the ugly retards that complain about the sexual revolution?
Coincidentally, its always the ugly feminists complaining about women being viewed as sex objects.
makes you think doesn't it.
>>75633339
Shut the fuck up degenerate normalfag nigger
>>75644279
lmao "argument"
the op is a single sntence with no supporting information.
only retards who get no pussy think that sexual liberation was a mistake, because they have not receive any of its benefits, rather they just watch as Chad fuck women in their prime, while they wait in their 40s to swoop in on used goods.
>>75643946
This is exactly backwards.
A healthy society creates chaste women
A dead society breeds sluts and chads like maggots to feed on its corpse
>>75633339
You shame your people and your ancestors. Normie-fag.
>>75644307
we must act to accelerate the end
/pol/s true place is Chaotic Evil, not some smarmy politics.
It should be our mission to make The Happening Happen.
>>75644361
>ugly retards
>nobody in the thread has posted their face.
Not an argument. The data suggests that the sexual revolution was a mistake. Good to see you're enjoying Cultural Marxism, though.
>>75644354
You're missing the part where martial law is declared by Obongo and you all get shot so tyrone can breed a slave class with the surviving stacies and establish the communistic NWO
They ain't going to just let white people rebuild
>>75633339
>>75633902
>>75634219
>retardation has a voice
>>75644384
See:
>>75633106
>A thread with the image of a bunch of sourced graphs
>A thread with an image of a qt
Guess which gets more views? Why bother copy+pasting the results to fit in the OP? So retards like you won't kneejerk?
>>75644361
I was declared a 9/10 by a certified anon in a thread based on my tinder matches
I still see the problems with allowing females to direct society in anyway.
It is like sharing the driver's wheel of a car with a drunk person
>>75644532
>>There's literally no defense of sexual liberation.
I get lots of multi culti and white pussy because Im fit
who cares about marriage, that;s for old people
>>75644420
>no stop talking about building or creating or fixing anything
>burn yourselves
>destroy yourselves
>let me tell you your purpose
>let me tell you your mission
>>75644453
Good luck with controlling hundreds of thousands of us rocking Europe and the US. Yes the police and military can control a few violent unarmed protestors to a certain extent.
They won't be able to deal with armed people. Also when SHTF many of them will just desert and go home and try to protect their families from chaos.
>>75634219
>>75644616
Oh, neat I love people who RP on the internet.
>Who cares about marriage, that's for old people
Marriage is the building block for every successful civilization.
Fucking whores in your 20s ends a couple of ways:
>You end up childless and alone after having a colorful youth. Foreigners get imported due to declining birth rates
>You marry some used up whore. She's worse off in every regard. Enjoy the divorce.
>Who cares about the future of society?
Fucking leaves.
>>75633021
Does /pol/ think Trump-supporting gays like me should be able to marry other adult white gay men?
>>75644557
ahh I see, so you think the government should force women to fuck ugly plebs. Thats a great system.
The only people that complain about the system are the ones that come out losers. litteraly 95% of men get laid, some more than others, and the 5% complain on 4chan about how unfair the system is and how its ruining the world, when in fact, women have been choosing their mates since the beginning of the species.
>>75644361
>I wonder why its always the ugly retards that complain about the sexual revolution?
I wonder why people always try to post this shit on the internet where nobody can see them, and then when you see what people advocating these things look like in real life, it's Brother Dean and Trump's Hero saying women should stop being whores and Aids Skrillex and Carl the Cuck saying women should be even bigger cumdumpsters?
>>75633339
>it's been pretty wonderful to have women who will fuck
As opposed to women who wont please their husband? did this ever happen?
>>75644849
That's literally just a drawn out:
>umad ugly beta autist losers xDDDDDDDD
I love how this is the only thing people can possibly say against overwhelming evidence.
It's like watching leftists trying to claim that race isn't real. Accusations of "racism" are the only argument they have.
>>75644759
You do know most attracive Women in the west have ridden the cock carousel in their 20's right?
Most of them will end up as your wives, despite being a used up whore in their 20's and no body wiill care.
>>Fucking whores in your 20s ends a couple of ways:
Get mad pussy from all over the world
Having experience with women, I can now look for the optimal mate. You would have no clue how to act in the first place, since youre playing in the sidelines during the sexual revolution.
>>Marriage is the building block for every successful civilization.
That may be true, but sexual liberation and marriage are not exclusive. Stop imagining an Amish fantasy land and enjoy the wave.
>>75644447
>not an argument
yet everyone on this thread knows your an ugly fuck and if you were given even the slightest attention by someone with a vaguu you would be fucking that shit instead of shitting on your computer, stuffing cheesypuffs into your face, posting on a website about how women shouldnt want to fuck good looking guys
pathetic how you try to bring marxism into the argument though. You really must be shitty person, ugly and stupid. Good luck passing those genes on bud
>>75635213
youve got no morals, stop talking to people
It should be different for men and women
Men should only marry with 30, to a woman who is 20 (preferably a virgin) and preferably already enrolled in college (for a sensible, industrial degree) or a tradesmanship. I personally like the concept of a housewife a lot, but I don't know if that is economically feasible nowadays; plus, I would prefer an educated woman over a dumb one.
Do it with a prenup that strictly divides the finances, get it bulletproofed by a lawyer. Then finance her through her education years, creating further dependency on you. When she's done, father like 3 to 6 kids with her. Keep her busy with the children, but raise them with her also, you want to teach them a lot of lessons about life.
I do however think that, while the man grows up to be 30, he may fuck whatever he wants in the 20 to 30 age bracket as long as he uses a condom. Those are lost causes anyway and already waste material; he might as well gather some experience to dominate the marriage even harder later on.
>>75645012
What will you come up with next? Will you call yourself an "alpha" or tell us [the current year]?
>>75645105
You have articulated my position on this matter.
Thanks GerbRo
>>75644961
HAHHAHAHAA
Its holarious how you bring up libtards, because you are litterally acting like one.
WAAAHHH WAAHHH GIRLS DONT WANT TO FUCK ME, MUST BE THIS EVIL FORCE CALLED SEXUAL LIBERATION
litterally the same as:
WAAAHHH WAAHHH I DONT HAVE A NICE CAR AND FLAT SCREEN TV, MUST BE THIS EVIL FORCE CALLED INSTITUTIONAL RACISM
>>75633021
>the consequences have been terrible.
It's not the main source but just a symptom as well. All cultures/societies go through centuries-long cycles that peak with prosperity and end with degeneracy. It is a straight effect of prosperity and dense populations leading to behavioral sink and society dying to surrounding ones.
>>75645002
>You do know most attracive Women in the west have ridden the cock carousel in their 20's right?
Just because the odds for something aren't good, doesn't justify hedonistic defeatism. Plus, I've met qt virgins at Church. If all else fails, there's always LDS.
>Having experience with women, I can now look for the optimal mate. You would have no clue how to act in the first place, since youre playing in the sidelines during the sexual revolution
The optimal mate, according to studies, would be a younger virgin. Gonorrhea isn't a great path to that.
>That may be true, but sexual liberation and marriage are not exclusive. Stop imagining an Amish fantasy land and enjoy the wave.
Again, according to the data, it really is. How in the Hell can you claim I'm living in a fantasy land when you've consistently ignored data throughout this entire discussion?
>>75645012
>yet everyone on this thread knows your an ugly fuck and if you were given even the slightest attention by someone with a vaguu you would be fucking that shit instead of shitting on your computer, stuffing cheesypuffs into your face, posting on a website about how women shouldnt want to fuck good looking guys
When have I ever said women shouldn't want to fuck good looking guys? If they want to, go ahead. Just get married to him.
Also, notice how I admitted to not being a virgin earlier on.
>pathetic how you try to bring marxism into the argument though. You really must be shitty person, ugly and stupid. Good luck passing those genes on bud
The sexual revolution in the U.S. was objectively influenced by Cultural Marxist thinking.
You are one assblasted whore. I'm sorry that reality suggests there are consequences for your actions. If you want to ignore reality, I suggest Tumblr.
>>75644849
>more niggergene posting
Hey isn't this a funny picture? It's a good looking white man with great hair who could easily get laid anywhere going out for non whoredom, and a degenerate faggot longhair and asian cuck calling for more whores
It's funny because it's exactly the opposite of what >>75644849 said?! How can it possibly be real! Obviously staged or a hoax, and the cuck and the longhair are going to run back to cry on the internet about ~not finding marriagable women~ and Deano is going to go fuck a whore and not risk getting hit in the bat by a psychotic ugly ~non-binary~ because fuck believing in shit, amiright, niggerbros?
>>75645145
only betas use the term alpha, guys that fuck women dont go around calling themselves that, but if you actually knew what a pussy felt like, you might know that.
keep posting your gay as 5 year old memes, and checking trips fag. the autism is strong in this thread
>>75645002
>Most of them will end up as your wives
Only yours
>>75645224
With the difference that feminism and sexual liberation has actually happened and ist still going on.
Fucking swallow this red pill already.
>>75645224
I'm sorry, did I ravage your ass harder than Tyrone and Jamal? Is that why you're responding to the same post over and over.
Sorry, slut, you're the liberal here.
>Even though studies and science demonstrate that race is real, I'm going to ignore it because that hurts my feelings.
>Even though science and studies show that there are consequences for sexual promiscuity, I'm going to ignore it because it hurts my feelings.
wew lad.
>>75645374
Burger, the only one in this thread, ranting, scolding others, deperately defending his disgusting lifestyle is you. Don't be stupid.
>>75633021
>>75633106
Lmfao. You useless cucks.
>muh marriage makes people happy
Stop being useless shits and find a wife then. I'll enjoy fucking as many as possible. That's pretty much all they're good for anyway.
>>75637862
burden of proof lies with the accuser
got anything that backs up your views :^)?
>>75645559
>I'll enjoy fucking as many as possible.
Have fun dying childless and doing a disservice to your family, your nation and your people.
>>75645367
Here's the SMOKING HOTTIE who attacked Deano with a bat for impugning her right to be a whore. Isn't she amazing guys? Wouldn't you love to stick your dick in her hole, (((satisfy))) her, then leave while she shits out your cumgrowths? Doesn't she totally prove that a pro-whore life is the only way to live?
>hurr durr al women are sluts
Still, no woman wants to fuck you lowlifes.
>>75645367
how about all you virgins in this thread go to the gym, read some books, pop your pimples, and for the love of God, brush your teeth.
Then take a deep breath, leave your blacked out room or basement, and go out into the real world and enjoy life, because you're wasting your life worrying about what other people are doing with their dicks/pussies.
Also I agree that no man with any self worth should marry a liberal whore thats out fucking everyone she meets. I'm just saying you should also fuck her, use her for the only thing she provides value to the world, then find a nice 20 year old girl and marry her and have white kids.
>>75635914
> kids
>alpha
>kept no women
>alpha
>isn't someone male turn to or genrally trust
>alpha.
>>75645636
Dont give a fuck. My dick is wet. I'm satisfied.
>>75645559
Single mother household upbringing detected.
>>75645636
>>75645491
sorry Mohammed, not a burger, just here working.
>>75645350
>The optimal mate, according to studies, would be a younger virgin.
We can't always get what we want, doesn't mean I can't marry anyone else.
All men want a pure virgin loyal girl, but in reality those qualities in one girl is too rare a treasure to find. Unless you had one since elementary who you grew up with, went to high school with, and is very close to you, you will rarely find that girl because those types rarely go out to get dicked down.
>How in the Hell can you claim I'm living in a fantasy land when you've consistently ignored data throughout this entire discussion?
Because you keep reinforcing Amish fantasies on people having promiscuous sex just for fun.
>>75645374
>I STICK MUH DICK IN HOLES
>THAT MAKES ME A MAN
>he said as his moms screamed at him to get off his phone and go get a job at Mickey Ds
>>75644361
to provide you with the biggest understatement:
sex is distracting
>>75645792
>literally showing his ass
Kind of what we all expected, boy
>>75645711
Great fucking damage control.
>then find a nice 20 year old girl and marry her and have white kids.
Pretty much what I'm advocating, I'm just adding the requirement of virginity. Why does that trigger you so hard?
>>75633021
> figure out how to set my location anywhere in tinder
> meet qt3.14s in shitholes and small towns throughout world
> slowly red pill them, which is much easier when they have not been coddled like western females
> tell them truth is on pol and this Mongolian horse trading board backed by cia
> ...
> get comfy
Am do good?
>>75645856
>doesn't mean I can't marry anyone else
That's not, objectively, an optimal mate then.
>Virgins are too rare. I should totally disregard data and continue supporting a culture that results in very low numbers of virgins, despite data showing that this is horrible for men.
What?
Conscious life was a mistake.
>>75645792
I'm not surprised at all by your immature reaction. What can you expect of someone, who tries to fight facts, reason and the inevitable conclusions.
>>75633170
Yes but worth noting Saladin was a Kurd, all relevant Muslim's are non-Arab
>>75645711
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>>75645711
This is you. Right now.
>>75634302
I bet you look at porn. kys degenerate.
>>75646044
>That's not, objectively, an optimal mate then.
You've not much experience in the world, have you?
There's optimal-ideal, and optimal-good enough. As long as she carries her own financially, is intelligent, fit and not a total whore, she's fine and is wife material.
> I should totally disregard data and continue supporting a culture that results in very low numbers of virgins, despite data showing that this is horrible for men.
Give me a break old man. I'm in my prime and girls are looking at me. I'm not gonna be abstinent. The way I see it, given the chance when a hot woman wants to fuck you, no sane man would decline for the sake of "society" and "le pure sexual ideals" because pussy is pussy.
>>75646076
nigger ahaha your funny as shit. You literally have provided no facts, just that in your demented mind, the exist, somewhere.
>provide no facts/proof/evidence
>attempt to ridicule someone for not believing said lack of facts/proof/evidence
you are literally a liberal. You're on the wrong site friend. you should go back to webbit
>>75646411
>be me
>also in my prime
>girls look at me all the time
>turn down sluts on a regular basis
>principals.jpg
>virtues.gif
>integrity.png
>>75646411
>There's optimal-ideal, and optimal-good enough.
Optimal is literally defined as: "best or most favorable." You can argue that she's fine, but you can't pretend she's optimal.
>>75645002
>sexual liberation and marriage are not exclusive
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/12/14/barely-half-of-u-s-adults-are-married-a-record-low/
absolute nigger autism
>>75646608
Nigger, all you've done this thread is ignore facts, while spewing insults.
If you want to praise sluts, you're probably on the wrong site.
>>75646411
>Gibsy doesn't know what optimal means
Why do niggergenes ever try to think or say things?
Shouldn't you be sticking your dick in a hole?
>socially retarded virgin thread
Loving every reply
>>75646608
the facts:>>75633106
Why should I provide facts which have already been provided? Do I look like some guy writing the same bachelor project as hundreds before him? How moronic will you become in this thread? 1-10; 1 is lowest (well we're beyond that); 10 is highest.
>>75646608
>nigger ahaha your funny as shit
That not-a-nigger facade really fell apart for you all at once, didn't it gibsy?
>>75646784
Loving every non-argument.
>>75646723
low energy attempt at a reply, try again
There's so many ad hominem reddit shills in this thread holy fuck.
>>75646784
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>>75646883
correlation /= causation retard
again, liberal detected.
>>75646682
Haha hey I'm not gonna knock you for your lifestyle, why should you get at mad at me for enjoying sexual pleasures?
>>75646683
Okay Burger, find a virgin girl and marry her. Get her hymen tested. I'll be waiting. In the mean time, I would have started a business and started my family then.
You can't keep looking for what you deem to be the perfect mate. She may/may not exist. If virginity is your prized value, why not go to a Muslim country where there are pure girls?
>>75646773
Find your optimal mate then. Virgin, white or whatever.
You would have missed a lot of opportunities with other women.
In chasing perfection you would have missed true love because you convinvced yourself you can only love someone who is pure, which is irrational.
>>75646948
>Reddit appropriate /pol/ memes.
>>75647012
>Arguing against data with literal meme "refutations" that aren't applicable to the situation
>Accusing others of being liberal.
Sorry you married a whore anon, I'll pray the divorce goes well for you.
>>75647091
>Find a virgin girl and marry her.
Earlier in the thread, I mentioned hitting it off with a virgin qt at my church. If that doesn't work out, there are others.
That's why in these types of threads, I encourage anons to go to Church regardless of their religious beliefs.
>why not go to a Muslim country where there are pure girls?
Dune coons have never been my thing. Fortunately, I don't have to leave the country.
>>75647293
Good luck
What funny is that "perfect girl" may not find you attractive, so your chances of a marrying the "perfect girl" is even slimmer than finding one.
>>75647012
Boy, how brainfucked are you? You could at least try and accuse me of arguing LIKE a liberal. I am fucking uber-far-right you moron.
You talk about facts and haven't provided anything substantially here.
It is eveident that "sexual liberation" was on femnisim's agenda and feminism is part of cultural marxism.
Fact: the more sexual partners somebody had, the more mentally unstable he gets - you are the running, breathing, fucked up proof for that btw.
Sexual liberation subsequently leads to serial monogamy, sluts etc. which leads to the destruction of traditional marriage, which leads to the destruction of the very core of every civilized society by replacing it.
That is what we are whitnessing today. If you are actually telling me that don't see it, then I have no other explenation than that you primary mode is delusion.
Simple. Fucking. Logic.
>>75647091
>sexual pleassures
You just sounded like a liberal slut.
>>75647543
It's slim, but I don't care for compromising on things like this.
Both my Grandfather and Father were gutted by divorce, I'm not going to make the same mistake.
Thanks for the wishes though, anon. It's been going on for a few months now, so I'd hope she finds me attractive.
>>75647111
eh, I met my wife when she was 18 and I was 25, started dating her 6 months later. Guided her though college into a spem degree. She makes same amount of money I do so if we get divorced, she's earned 1/2 that money so she can have it.
I get my dick sucked fucked when ever I want, she rubs my feet every night. She's kept her weight the same since the day I met her.
I have no complaints, and I still fucked over 100 girls before I met her. Thats the natural way of things nigger, men fuck whores and marry good women. Women chose their paths young, and if they chose wrong, they get alot of alpha dick in their 20's and a beta to take care of her beat up pussy in her 30's.
>>75647635
Hmm.. so enjoying one's hedonistic pleasures makes one a liberal
boy... conservatives must be abstinent monks who refrain from all sensory pleasures
>>75633021
is no one going to point out that bitches collar bone pointing out of the side of her neck? She looks like a inguna.
>>75647724
Never comprimise on a marriage sure,
If you'd rather die alone than be with a non-virgin whore... well, I couldn't do that and I would salute you in your dying bed.
>>75647735
I'm not contesting that, earlier I was talking to an anon who was regretting losing his virginity. The data varies, but it suggests that men either aren't effected at all or face minimal consequences for casual sex.
My biggest point of contention with it, is that it's part of a culture that decreases the quality of women overall.
Men, unlike women, aren't irreversibly damaged for having sex. Sounds like you did things well enough, I hope it works out.
Where'd you meet her? What was her past before you?
>>75647745
Gods...
This "hunt the pussy"-attitude is nigger tribal attitude. They never focused on anything else. That is one reason why the still live in huts made of shit and mud.
Here in Europe (e.g.) our ancestors established a man gets his and only his woman to be his wife at a relatively young age, so they could stop chasing pussy and focus on the well being and the progress of the entire group.
If you want to follow nigger-tribal-ideology, fine - hunt the pussy. It's not like I could do anything to prevent you from doing that.
>>75647572
you believe you are far right, but in fact think like a liberal.
How old are you really? Do you think whats going is novel? Don't you think the same shit has happened over and over again thought out the millennium? Don't you think there were whores in the 1950s? 1920's? 1850's?
humans dont change. There will was always and there always be whores that fuck anyone that puts a dick in their face, as well as good women how want to love a single man and have kids. Just like there will always be rapists and murders and pedo's and faggots like you
>>75633106
>>75633021
You forgot to mention single dads.
More and more women are becoming such whores that they abandon their own kids.
The social normalization of hard drugs also has a lot to do with this. Who cares about being a responsible parent and citizen when you have all these drugs and fucking to do, and the government will cover you blindly when you fuck up?
This is why Muslims and Hispanics are overtaking us. They have a strict moralistic culture is many cases; and even if they have some bad eggs, they have so many kids, that a decent amount still turn-out acceptable for their society.
These cucks are seriously talking about finding virgins. Lmfao.
Funny how /pol/ claims to be redpilled but still holds to the Jewish ideal of the nuclear family. Good thing their women cant divorce without husbands permission.
>>75644361
>I wonder why its always the ugly retards that complain about the sexual revolution?
Not true, I'm pretty handsome.
Having politically incorrect opinions (ie. liking truth above the alternatives) is just a very good deterrent for women. Also, I like to live by my PC.
>>75648137
>the Jewish ideal of the nuclear family.
Nothing wrong with larger families either.
>>75647999
The fuck are you on about, "hunt the pussy"?
I enjoy sex and I satisfy it like any other craving on a friday night.
Do not confuse my promiscouity as me not putting "money/education" first. Fuck bitches, get money, right? That's more nigger-ideology but a based and sound one.
>>75633021
>people can do whatever the fuck they want unless it harms other people
the only defense you need faggot
>>75633106
Do you realise that also supports that the older you marry off the beter off you are?
>>75648137
>Nuclear family
>Jewish
Nigger, what? If you want to talk about Jewish influenced movements, look no further than "sexual liberation," easy divorce, the normalization of single motherhood, and the destigmatization of adultery and women being whores.
Next you're going to claim that national pride and ethnic solidarity are Jewish concepts.
