Why won't /pol/ admit that right-wing politics are a gateway to evil?
>>75581547
>muh antiquated left/right political spectrum
>>75581547
It may be evil, but name me one Great empire in history that made their mark on history who didn't stem from right wing ideology
>>75581547
that is actually a breddy good spectrum desu family
>>75581547
I dont think those are what you think they are.
>>75581547
>golden meme garbage
the refuge of those who don't understand either side of the question.
>>75581547
You know this is a political spectrum based on how extreme the views are compared to the standard, right?
In no way does it imply how efficient or good it is.
Retard.
>>75581547
>golden mean
>anything that isn't the status quo is slavery
How is anarchism socialist? Socialism is about collective rights, Anarchism is the ultimate you are on your own, its actually super right wing.
>Nazism
It´s National Sozialismus you retard
>>75581547
Facism should be between socialism and communism
Anarchists aren't left wing you fat tub of shit.
>>75581547
>Nazism
You mean fucking National SOCIALISM?? The only thing ""right wing"" about it was its social policies
>>75581547
>anarchy
>slavery
wat.png
>>75581547
Your political spectrum gave me cancer, you fucking moron.
I could've stretched my asshole in front of your face and even that would've been a better way to distinguish political ideologies
>>75582543
Fuck you and your political spectrum. It's so fucking stupid, seriously.
National Socialism had its own unique policies. Shut the fuck up with the whole "RIGHT WING" "LEFT WING" "CENTER" crap.
National Socialism is National Socialism. It doesn't fit in either wings. It has its own unique attributes that classifies it outside of both spectrum.
>left wing
>anarchism
U wot???
It's 2016.
Fascism is left wing.
>>75582205
>>75582406
>>75582843
Because you haven't read any popular Anarchism literature, when referring Anarchism people are referring to collective/communist anarchism not individualism/egoist Anarchism; which doesn't exist outside of /lit/.
>>75583004
>fascism
>left wing
You motherfuckers are insane
>>75581547
both sides look pretty bad to me
>>75581547
Some of those are political groups (Fascism, Liberalism) and some are economic groups (Communism, Socialism). In short, you are a retard.
>>75583075
That is the true definition. "Anarcho-communism" is literally just Communism and not at all Anarchism.
The "wings" don't fucking mean anything you retards and it's clearly bait, why would you be so buttblasted about the order?
>>75581547
The far right wing is terrible as well, just look at the posters here do you want these types of people in charge?
But of course they'll never amount to much of course but I must say I agree the right wing can be terrible too.
>>75581547
>linear relationship
wut?
>>75583430
That's nice hun, it isn't me you've got to convince, It's the other Anarchists.
>>75581547
on this list communism has by faaar killed the most people you kinda played yourself you fool.
>>75583905
No it didn't. Nazis (right wing republicans) killed the most people.
>>75581547
>>75584117
The political left killed them all.
>>75584261
Wrong. Violence is a right-wing policy.
>>75584398
Liberty is a right wing policy. Government violence is always left wing by definition.
>>75581547
>That's right goyim
>Keep voting Democrat and Republicans
>>75584117
And the Holocaust happened too, right?
>>75581547
I've never understood how anarchism and communism can be put next to each other
It's an oxymoron.
You are all fucking retarded.
Right = Monarchy
Left = liberalism (Read capitalism, constitutions, democracy, republicanism, free markets, egalitarianism)
All other political ideologies are distinct ideas and do not conform to any sort of spectrum.
Socialism, communism, fascism, and natsoc do not belong on the spectrum.
AnCap and Traditionalism could concievably be seen as far left and far right.
The left tries to pretend that Hitler wasn't one of their own. Meanwhile they supported him right up until Barbarossa.
>>75581547
>left wing
>the wing that wants the government to baby them
>anarchism
What the fuck am I reading?
>>75584511
Exactly. Anarchism is extreme right and communism is extreme left.
>>75583151
>Posting Evola while claiming Fascism isn't left
ayy
>>75584448
>>75584398
>>75584261
>violence is bad meme
This is why the west is so weak. Half the people in it think they can escape the bloody reality of cyclical history.
>>75584212
this, this isnt correct.
What determines whether an ideology is left or right is the amount of central state power or lack thereof.
>>75581547
Fascism isn't right wing dumb ass.
>>75581547
POLITICS ARE NOT 1 DIMENSIONAL.
I can't believe how retarded people are.
>>75581547
>Socialism as opposite of nazism
>Monarchism freer than nazism
Unless you speak of monarchism like modern Sweden of course.
>>75584761
You just showed that you are the dumb ass. The Nazis were Progressives.
>>75584511
Communism is literally a form of anarchism and this chart is retarded.
>>75584398
>Do not say X or you will be fined
>Attempt to not comply with laws and you will be incarcerated and fined
Yeah, nah, the left are the most violent. The right is only violent when their liberties are in danger.
>>75584838
Nazism was a form of socialism. The opposite of Nazism is classical liberalism.
>People on /pol/ still buy into the left/right narrative.
Really?
Really!?!?!
>>75581547
Wow OP Voting for Republicans and Democrats will truly give us freedom
>>75581547
>Nazi
>Right wing
>National Socialist
>Right wing
>National
>Socialist
>Right wing
>>75584838
Oh and anarchism as polar left and defined as slavery, it's just liberalism with no order or decency whatsoever.
>>75581547
> anarchism on far left bot far right
>>75581769
USSR, Ashoka in india, Maoist china.
>>75581547
>one dimensional political spectrum
>Nazism/fascism right wing
>Monarchism only slightly authoritarian
>>75584212
Correct
>>75584927
I agree, that's why I said it's weird to put socialism and nazism on different sides in that kind of linear graph.
>>75585119
he said great
>>75585076
Nope, they are clearly referring the leftist anarchism which is basically rule by group think and societal thought police.
>>75585119
>USSR
Collapsed in on itself, hardly great.
>Ashoka in India
Who? Anyway, they can't be that great if they still haven't figured out indoor plumbing yet
>Maoist China
Yes, a great source of cheap products and cheaper labor. It's the Zerg rush model of civilization building. But at what cost do they achieve a measure of success?
>>75581547
What is this graph measuring?
>>75581547
as with all of these pictures, this "can" be right, it just depends on your outlook, and concept your trying to make.
but only if you dont call that shit freedom, then you simply prove your ignorance
freedom =/= the state
as for anarchy and facism, the only thing they have in common is " physical force" being a danger
and the middle/ centrist ideologies shy away from physical force , but are in danger when it comes to beurocratic slavery
so it should say
"physical slavery" - "coversive slavery" - "physical slavery"
>>75581547
Implying left wing politics leads to what, utopia?
What can be more evil than the attempt to mongrolize the human race and wipe out the collective memory of world cultures for the sake of fulfilling an egalitarian ideal.
OP forgot to add a picture of Jews polarizing everyone with the artificial migrant crisis.
Created by Obama, Clinton and Soros, and Israel by making the Islamic State and supporting them with rations, weapons, and ammo.
>>75584212
This is much, much more accurate than op
>>75585804
"The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it."
-Henry Louis Mencken
I don't understand how nazism is right. It is nationalist SOCIALISM right? So socialism is left but nazism is right? The fuck
>>75581639
First post, best post
>>75581547
>Nazism
>Right wing
I love this meme
>>75585212
The modern left tries to distance themselves from Hitler, even though their ideologies are very similar.
For all intents and purposes the modern left inherited Nazi ideology and just replaced 'jews' with 'white males.'
>>75581547
>>75581793
>Anarchism
>Left Wing
Are you fucking retarded?!?!
Notice the upside down five pointed stars on the republican logo. It's the upside down pentagram for Baphomet. The party changed it in 2000 from the traditional up pointing stars.
>>75586246
You sound like you ran out of Haldol.
>>75581547
Fascism is a LEFT WING ideology you fucking morons.
>all these posts about how anarchism isn't left-wing
Have you ever met a modern anarchist? Seen their rallies? Looked at their online communities? They're even further left than Tumblr. FFS all this "mansplain" bullshit these days came from the widely used term "manarchist" which has been around for decades and refers to anarchists who don't toe the line of the extreme left by daring to ever think women are anything other than supreme deities.
reddit.com/r/anarchism
Just take a look around there and tell me these people are even remotely right wing
>>75585941
>I don't understand how nazism is right.
It's not. It takes what is best for the folk from whatever "side" and it doesn't buy into the whole left/right crap.
>>75584398
>violence is a right wing policy
what
>>75586200
Are you? Anarchism from the beginning was a libertarian socialist ideology.
Did I fix it? I guess facism is closer to the center maybe
Wtf? Communism, and Anarchism on the same side and one step away from eachother. OP are you retarded, or just a nigger?
>>75586468
>>75586331
Define left wing.
Define fascism.
>>75581547
It's not a line it's a circle.
>>75586712
>horseshoeforants.jpg
>>75586331
Facism isn't left or right, just like nazism. It is simply authoritarian nationalism.
>>75586789
>Define fascism.
:D
>>75586927
Here you go I fixed it for you faggot
>>75586995
>conveniently ignores half the post
>reddit face
>>75586525
change slavery in the right side for "euphoria"
>>75584764
Politics aren't two dimensional like that either. Progressivism isn't synonymous with libertarian and authoritarian isn't synonymous with conservatism yet that shitty quiz tries to make it so. There are also multiple economic scales, like laissezfaire vs Keynesian on the right and top-down vs classless on the left but at least left and right encompasses both unlike my previous example.
>>75583430
>anarcho-capitalism developed literally an entire decade later after anarchism
>BUT WE'RE THE TRUE DEFINITION DURRHURR
Dumbfuck
>>75585119
>Ashoka in india
The other two maybe you can try to argue but will fail. How the fuck did you even to think of poo in loo though?
>>75582971
You like that book? Just got it in the mail
>>75587277
>>conveniently ignores half the post
That's because I didn't want to define leftism I just wanted to define fascism.
I'll let the leftists define leftism.
>>75588024
Then how can you say that fascism is a leftist ideology if you can't define leftism?
>>75586995
Who wrote this?
>>75581547
So slavery is a good thing? Me ne frogo
Is the state authoritarian in a hypothetical direct democracy where state and society are unified?
>>75588140
>Then how can you say that fascism is a leftist ideology if you can't define leftism?
Because fascism (and national socialism) doesn't buy into the left/right narrative.
>>75588150
>Who wrote this?
James L. Miller, PhD
I'd post the link it but its a blog spot link (and I don't remember if 4chan blocks those links still)
>>75581547
If you can't tell that evil is on both sides of that chart you're beyond help
>>75588645
>fascism is a left wing ideology "Because fascism (and national socialism) doesn't buy into the left/right narrative."
Have you lost the plot, lad?
>>75588645
The reason I'm curious is that fascism is a very incoherent ideology. Even the words used in the post seem /pol/ish; filth, degregation, corruption of morals, etc. The best you'll get in definition is some compromise between authoritarianism, national syndicalism and nationalism.
Petainist Fascism differed from both Falangism and Nazism. Nazism often disagreed with both Italian Syndicalism and the Ironguard despite being Allies willingly. I also noticed it skipped unpleasantness; for instance, fascio means "bundle" which later came to mean group during Italian unification; but the symbol is very much the fasces which is the root of the name of the movement. It also moved along ideals of censorship for public good, and quickly went over that as a promotion rather than a negative.
>>75589320
>The reason I'm curious is that fascism is a very incoherent ideology.
Essentially it means:
Whatever is good for the people is promoted or provided. Whatever is bad for the people is discouraged or banned.
In fascism the state exists to serve the homogeneous people.
In socialism (or communism) the people exist to serve the state.
In capitalism, the people exist to serve the economy.
Here's another article to hopefully clear the issue up.
>>75581547
Good luck proving that right wing politics are the gateway to left wing politics.....
>>75589685
We're still hitting the same bedrock.
The real economic differences between the majority of fascist and socialist economies come from the source of management rather than the actual practice; typically economic decisions in Fascist economies were made by those in the industry while socialist programs come from the top down.
>Exist to serve the state - Socialism
>State exists to serve the people - Fascism
I'd argue that the assumption in both cases is that the interests of the state and the people are the same. Soviet Russia for instance had a long standing ban on pornography due to the logic of it being wasteful and bad for its citizenry. Fascist Spain did the same for similar reasons and more Catholic overtones. Germany kind of turned a blind eye to it as long as it was seen as "in check."
Seriously, look for consistency amongst fascist states; the movement was smothered in the cradle. The only real consistency you'll find between fascist governments is 1. Authoritarianism 2. Nationalism 3. Syndicalism and I ordered them in prevalence. I.e., the Ironguard lacked the economic power to create a syndicalist system, and Spain had more power over its economy.
>Whatever is good for the people is promoted or provided. Whatever is bad for the people is discouraged or banned.
I don't like this definition. I really doubt any government would run on the platform of
>We hate nice things, and we provide shitty things.
