This is what one of the biggest political parties has to say about Spain.
Rough translation:
"For Ciudadanos(a "right" wing party") Spain is a country for white men in a bar. The true change will be a new country, diverse, plural, fair and feminist".
Izquierda Unida was an irrelevant party until they united with Podemos for the next elections. These degenerates have a real chance to enter the government now.
JUST FUCK MY COUNTRY UP EVEN FURTHER SENPAITACHI
Latinamerica 2.0 but with even more diversity.
Pretty cool f.am
lol idiot. thats for colonialism :DDD
>>75534295
What this guy said: >>75534394
Izquierda Unida (Left wing) is the communist party with a face wash
>>75534295
Primo de Rivera is probably spinning in his grave right now
>tfw your dad turns out to be a faggot
>>75534295
> Spain
> workers get outstanding benefits
> hard to lose job
> get days off if some random fuck 5th cousin gets married
> wonders why economy is shit
> fought useless civil war that still hasn't been settled
Fucking spics are inherently incompetent
It's ogre. Time to pack my shit and move out.
>>75534295
>fair
>feminist
pick one, familia
>spain
>white
>
>>75535969
>israel
>white
Well, i never claimed that.
Although i must say, i am probably whiter than most of the """"whites"""' here.
>>75534295
Who are you going to vote in the coming presidential elections?
>>75534295
What does "famalam" mean?
>>75535699
What does "ogre" in this context mean? Also, where would you move to, Madrid?
>Everyone I know is voting for anything podemos
JUST
>>75538332
No one, of course, but ciudadanos and pp are the only way.
Just to show our international friends the retardation of the new spanish left: Iñigo Errejon said venezuela's food lines are created because everyone has more money to spend thanks to Hugo Chavez and the desire to have a tv is purely bourgeois mentality, you cant make this shit up.
http://www.correodelorinoco.gob.ve/entrevistas/%E2%80%9Cel-aumento-capacidad-consumo-es-producto-revolucion-bolivariana%E2%80%9D/
>>75538332
>>75539197
>>75539274
NORMIE GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>75539197
It's an american phrase for "Spain is ultimate cuck"
>>75539342
iktf bro
Back in January 2015 all my friends were voting for Syriza
Now they are cursing the moment, one of them was so traumatized he became a libertarian
JUST
>>75539355
Btw Errejon is one of the most relevant figures in Podemos and he looks like a 14 year old cuck
>>75539274
Ogre means over, my new friendo. I will probably leave this shit hole and go to another country. I still don't know which one tho.
Spain will never EVER have a Front National or a FPO unless it kicks out its retarded-left areas (i.e. Catalonia)
>>75539355
To be fair that article is frome before the venezuelan crisis.
>>75534295
Literally why the fuck are parties pushing for multiculturalism in Europe and how is this not colonialism ?
>>75539615
>2013
>venezuela not in crisis
>>75539653
Christian Universal Moralism combined with Progressive Virtue Signalling
>>75534295
What did you expected from far-left? They are not going to win anyway.
Who cares?
>>75539773
> there are not going to win
The same applies to all other parties in the case of Spain
>>75539679
They were definitely better then than right now.
>>75539513
I can't even tell whether that's real or not
>>75539773
They can win, we live in a very dangerous situation in Spain right now, my dear Pierre-Marie
>>75539863
A bit like saying that a person infected with HIV is better before AIDS finally progresses
>>75539562
Portugal. Kek.
>>75539962
Nah, not even close. I was thinking about the Netherlands. Looks pretty comfy familia
>>75539962
This desu. Every country hates us. But portugas are near.
>>75539587
Let's face the facts, you're completely right. I believe Spain HAS to lose both Catalonia and the Basque country to finally take a long hard look at herself.
The thing is that being such a poor country, the migratory and rapefugees issues have pass us by and there is no real reason for a hard right-wing party. That might change if Podemos reaches power, though. And it might change FAST.
I mean, for fuck's sake, we settled a family of refugees somewhere in inner Spain and after a week, A WEEK, they just packed their shit and left (probably to Germany) without saying a damn word. That's how much Spain sucks right now. Not even rapefugees want to cuck us.
>>75539773
This is unprecedented Spain. Nobody ever went full diversity in a speech like that but Podemos is introducing Marxism in the left at a really worrying pace.
>>75539342
What does "JUST" mean in this context?
>>75539863
Not an argument, food shortages created by socialism are a pretty fucked up situation and Errejon's analisis is either retardation or a well payed job, since he is not stupid I would say the second.
Does anyone have that meme where it's four panels and it's like
1."Trump is a racist"
2."How"
3.Puzzled face
4.Annoyed face
Can someone make one like that except
1. "Europe needs to be multicultural"
2. "why"
>>75539872
https://twitter.com/iunida/status/732921394145693697
>>75539399
What does "REEEEEEEEEEEE" mean?
>>75540107
Cuck spains shit up
>>75540107
You're really new here, ain't you love?
JUST = Just fuck my shit up.
>>75540107
JUSTicia para topo
>>75540202
Retarded Serbian
Man, I envy you countries with actual political discourse. I wish we had left-right here.
All we have is this penal colony with retards fighting over who gets to be warden.
>>75539412
Urban Dictionary says otherwise, you liar.
>>75540144
There were food shortages in Venezuela before Chávez too, lad.
>>75539511
Did you vote for Syriza?
>>75540079
Marxism has always existed in Spain
What Podemos is introducing is simply Christianity-based Sainthood Progressive Moral Signalling
the whole "love your enemies, the meek shall inherit the Earth, hate your family and even yourself to prove your sainthood and become deign of following me, the strong shall fall, those that wanna live will die / those that wanna die will find new life" aspect of Christianity is fuel for the Left, and the new Pope is part of that
>>75540193
>that tweet
>those responses
What the fuck is wrong with them?
>>75540261
Please stop posting. Please.
>>75534295
How's your 50% unemployment among millennials going fampai?
>>75539773
Syriza won.
>>75538332
>>75539197
>>75539274
>>75540202
Yfw this is a Google AI bot doing deep learning on 4chan.
>>75540079
Podemos isn't marxist tho.
>>75540453
>Advanced AI
>Spanish flag
Not even the average citizen is this advanced
>>75540291
Are you retarded or a cuck? What the fuck has this to do with Errejon's shitty analisis?
>>75540050
No country hates us, Eduardo; you care confusing our country with France.
>>75540428
Okok. Thats enough. We know we are shit, but you also lost your oportunity to have a rightwinger in power and threw it away.
>>75540526
That was a genuine, not a mocking question. I like your country and I'm saddened by its trouble unlike by Greece's
>>75540526
dat election was fishy as hell tho
>>75540523
Only """ countries"""" that hate us are insede us.
>>75540053
Quit shitting in your own country.
>>75540521
It has to do with when you said "food shortages created by socialism". There were already food shortages before that. I haven't even read his analisis, I couldn't care less about that.
>>75540523
Well, I hate you. Bc I am living with people from spain and they are utter shit and as plebbish as mediterreans can be
>>75540612
Yeah agree
>>75540585
Ok then. Sorry for being rude.
>>75540428
Slightly better unemployment figures, but we have a cuckservative party afraid of stepping out of the regular social-democratic line and freeing even just a tiny bit the labour market so...
>>75540202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnu4Fe5sIeQ
>>75540473
>podemos leader says historical materialism is the only way to understand the history of europe
>goes hand in hand with self proclaimes marxist party iu
>not marxist
Democracy is so much fun. Even retarded, selfish, uneducatued morons get to vote!
>>75540219
And what does "based" mean? Does it mean to be enlightened?
>>75534394
>Latinamerica 2.0
Where is the Machismo?
Where are the drug?
>>75540778
Selfish, uneducated people are not the problem
Selfless people brainwashed by the educational system are
>>75540797
it means not giving a fuck about what other people think
it is niggerspeak that 4chan adopted for free- thinkers, not that I mind, it actually sounds cool
>>75540813
pls elect that asian qt pie :3
>>75540713
>There is no alternative to market economy
Wew, he almost sounds like Stalin.
>Spain
>White
>>75534295
You guys need a new Franco.
>>75540909
people in here seem to forget that the Left lost the economic war in 1990
The Left is now engaged in a purely anti-cultural war, their revenge against the proletariat, and it is winning
>>75540636
You need to rethink how food shortages are produced and how the socialist government made them worst
>>75540947
Franco a shit tho
Instead of implementing a program of national renovation, he simply became an out-dated reactionary that belonged in the 1700s, and gave a terrible name to the Right
>>75534295
wow cool country, I'm coming
pic related its me
>>75539197
>>75539274
>>75540107
>>75540202
>>75540797
What did he mean by this?
>>75540516
Quit shitting in your own country and its people.
Women voting and socialism.
RIP, white man.
>>75534295
>fair
>feminist
tell to leftists unite to pick one.
>>75541234
* Single people voting
fixed there for u
>>75540473
>>75540909
Pablo Iglesias and his ilk are damn commies, son. You just need to check a few old La Tuerka shows (way before Podemos) to find out what they really believe. When Iglesias says that there is no alternative to market economy he doesn't mean free market.
Most of the Podemos guys are known trostkists. And you can pretend they are actually defending some sort of nordic socialdemocratic agenda, but in reality they have far more in common with Ecuador and Argentina than they have with Denmark or Norway.
>>75540619
Not even one percent of independentists want independence for nationalistic reasons, everyone else only wants to escape the economic crisis.
Should Spain not have any economic crisis there would be no independentism whatshoever.
>>75540909
>stalin strawman meme
Still a marxist with an agenda
>>75534295
Pretty funny desu. We maybe be pretty poor, but at least no one is cucked here, especially about the Haitians.
It's funny how many Poles about ten years ago had traveled to Spain for work. Nowadays in England I've worked with Spaniards in the same shitty jobs.
>>75541286
>Single people voting
At last I truly see.
Yes, you are right. Giving the vote only to married people would solve everything.
>>75541298
I know that a los of Podemos leaders and supporters consider themselves marxist, trotskists or whatever. But the party itself and its proposals aren't marxist, no even close.
Have faith and prepare for the happening.
>>75540909
Also
>believing marxists and their "market economy"
https://youtu.be/FV2C9YmEw5Q
>>75541411
I've seen Spaniards selling wine in supermarkets here of all places. It's pretty sad.
>>75540658
There are rotten apples in every country. A bunch of imbeciles do not represent the rest of Spaniards.
You see, I have known two netherlanders who where the most despicable pieces of filth, disgusting inhumane monsters you could ever imagine. And yet I would not hate your country or your people because of this experience because that is absolutely ridiculeous.
You are a vriend, come visit Madrid.
>>75541317
With a capitalist agenda?
>>75534295
Cmon fuck that shit we need the based spaniards to stay based
>Zapatero and Bono ruined PSOE supporting Pablo Iglesias
>Bono even was the assistant lawyer of Iglesias's grandfather, a communist jailed because of TERRORISM.
>His laywer was ENRIQUE TIERNO GALVÁN
TOP FUCKING KEK PSOE ROOT IN HELL YOU FUCKING RETARDS YOU RUINED EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE
AND PP? FUCKING MERKEL DOGS WHO WILL STILL ALOWING INMIGRANTS HERE
EVERYTHING SUCKS HERE, WE NEED HELP
>>75541555
Historically catholic countries seem to struggle with basedness
Ireland literally has no anti-immigration party, the same with Portugal
I blame christian moralism
>>75541540
Whatever you want to believe, gullible Manuel.
Spainbros it's really bad, over here when we had elections and the right wing party (Social-Democrats) got the most votes but they didn't get the majority so the leftist SJW party, communist party formed a coalition with the Socialist Party and formed government. Their argument is that most people didn't vote for the social democrats even though they got most of the votes but if you use that argument against them then 90% of people didn't vote for commies or leftists either. It's awful they're already fucking up the country, the SJW party only proposes petty shit like changing the name of some things because they think it's sexist or whatever.
>>75541643
This guys knows, christian puritanism is strong with the left nowaday
>>75541769
So you actually think Pablo Iglesias pretends to start an armed struggle against the state, to socialize the economy and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat?
>>75541126
You are about to vote a bunch of leftist into power, he has all the right to do it.
>>75541975
> You are about to vote a bunch of leftist into power,
If only! That may make for an accelerationist argument
They cant vote anyone into power, that is their real problem: ungovernment
>>75541773
What is happening in Spain is very similar what is happening in Portugal (and Ireland maybe).
Our reaction to legacy parties is more leftist, more degenerate, more progressive, more pro-immigration (Podemos, Bloque de Esquerda, Sinn Fein).
This has to have a reason...
>>75541960
We's moving the masses and wants to demilitarize the country. We won't have another Caudillo to save us this time.
>>75542127
He's*
>>75541643
There's no Anti-Immigration party because we don't have many refugees \ immigrants here, our welfare state is shit and crumbling fast due to our new nigger-in-chief (socialist no less)
Another reason is due to the fact that many portuguese people emmigrate to other countries. Since the 60's we've had a lot of portuguese people leaving the country due to the dictatorship, the lack of jobs etc... To make an anti-immigration party would be hypocrisy.
Also 10% of portugal's revenue ( we call it pib) comes from tourism and maintaining good relations with former colonies that have vast amounts of natural resources.
But I'm not worry, we're irrelevant and in the ass of europe, there's only old people here most of our younger people have already left for a better life abroad. Portugal still remains very conservative and racist, mostly because of our experience with niggers in former colonies.
>>75541975
The whole catalan indepentist movement is hijacked by people that are no real catalanists. Everything in this country is a bad joke, it seems.
>>75534295
Oh no! It's infecting Spain already. Our Communist Party isn't a bunch of faggots which really holds back the left on going full-SJW but I have feeling if Spain goes this way the dam might break.
I'm scurred.
>>75541475
The party itself is a tool for those marxists in control of the party to reach power and turn Spain into yet another socialist failure (read Lenin, son, I assure you Iglesias has). Their proposals are Greek-tier retarded and even if you refuse to call them marxists, you will at least agree that it certainly looks like a very dangerous slippery slope that will most-likely get out of control despite all the good intentions in the world.
A huge lot of members of Podemos might be your run-of-the-mill leftists with good intentions and bad ideas, yet the guys giving the orders are hardcore communists and have all the power in the party. And this is a very unfortunate fact.
>>75534295
I thought you Mediterraneans had your leftist problem under control.
>>75542127
Since when is demilitarizing a marxist thing?
>>75535630
We were pretty competent with Franco. The jews that rule your country used the CIA to kill his successor in the goverment. After that, jewish social-liberalism, NATO, giving up all our industries to the EU, cuckservativism vs progresivism... Thanks Obama!
>>75542188
P.S - We do have an Anti-Immigration party called PNR ( National Party for Renovation ) but as with all far-right parties it consists of nothing more than skinheads, crooks and disillusioned people who's sole policy is kicking everyone that isn't barbosa.
>>75542077
Right-wing guilt. Conservatives are ashamed and misrepresented. There hasn't been a proper conservative speech in Spanish politics since the 1980's.
Also, millenials and liberal media (95% of it).
>>75541960
I do not trust his words enough to make an accurate prediction about it
>>75542077
Bloco de Esquerda literally disgusts me, it's literally electing tumblr to government positions.
Our ID card is called "Cartão de Cidadão" and their brilliant solution to the country's problems is change its name to "Cartão de Cidadania" because "cidadão" is a male word and it's sexist to other genders.
>>75539355
Don't vote C's, they said they will bring rapefugees here. Only VOX has positioned itself against this upcoming madness.
>>75541643
It's not the christian moralism it is the atheist propaganda by the jews that led to laicization of this countries
check this vid rel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hakb6S0IpgY
Christianity was the sword that united Europe many times in fight against the muslim scum and it can be like this again
>>75542188
I have to point out that Eastern European Countries have immigration levels lower than Portugal and they have many rising anti-Islamization parties
I suspect that the rejection of the radical right in Spain and Portugal has to do, to some extent, with the dictatorships of the 70s, a lot like eastern europeans reject the radical left for similar reasons
>>75542312
PNR is so small and has so little support that it's a joke at this point.
>>75542290
Since a national army is the only one who can stop a marxist revolution, like happened in 1936.
Then, once they get to power, they build another "Red" or "People's" army under their ideals.
>>75542260
No I don't support Podemos, I would even prefer the PP govering again rather than them. But I have actually read Lenin, and what he said doesn't look like what Pablo Iglesias proposes at all.
>>75542290
>implying Marxism hasn't moved on since the mid 20th century
Read Gramsci. Monedero likes to use his picture to cover the Apple logo on his computer, and that's hilarious.
Also please remember who has defended pic related over and over again.
>>75542415
Dont worry,I will not vote at all, My wish is to remain ungoverned
>>75542565
It's so obvious why Iglesias wanted the ministries of defence and so on and no education. The job in education is finished, we are already a demoralized country.
Se algum barbosa quiser um amigo /pol/ estou no grupo /pol/ da steam, nome é Gwynn tenho a foto de um gato a fazer uma cara parva.
>>75542580
I'm afraid Anguita disagrees with you
http://www.eldiadecordoba.es/article/cordoba/1957471/anguita/pablo/iglesias/es/sabio/adaptador/lenin.html
The writing is on the wall for everyone to see, familia. Spain might be a a shithole of a country but I don't think we deserve to have a communist country in power or with enough political representation to be able to swing Spain down the abyss.
>>75542565
That's dumb, that's just the name of the army. DDR's army for example was called "National People's Army".
>>75542500
You got it right, my friend, our right wing is too traditional for the mainstream
>>75535504
As if racemixing with aztecs wasn't a giveaway.
>>75542669
>Mariano stays as President for decades because nobody can make a new goverment
KEIKAKU DOORI
>>75542483
One can't forget that the crusaders were more of a cultural remanent of the roman legions, than an actual military expression of Christianity
One can't forget that Christianity is into itself an Other-Wordly Religion, which promises that this "evil world" will be destroyed by the Jewish War God, but only after christians suffered terrible oppression and openly reject the world and life itself
The whole concept of "love your enemies, the meek shall inherit the Earth, hate your family and even yourself to prove your sainthood and become deign of following me, the strong shall fall, those that wanna live will die / those that wanna die will find new life" only makes sense in that context of rejection of the world, nihilism, and embracing of the destruction of this planet
One can't ignore that Jesus asked his followers to behave the exact opposite of Romans. Given that Romans were very down-to-earth guys, behaving opposite to them is an inversion of sanity, and an endorsement of craziness
It was the medieval self-flagellants, the cathars, the anarcho-socialists of Munzter, self-secluding monks, the martyrhood-obsessed christians of Antiquity that really embraced the spirit of Christianity, not the Cruzaders interested in becoming strong, in gaining treasures in this world, and embracing life
there isn´t a single good voting choice
prove me wrong
protip:you can´t
>>75542580
I haven't talked to any ex-leninist about Podemos: The post
>>75534295
Gg papá, fue divertido mientras duró. Te recordaremos por tu acento raro.
>>75542908
Vox.
Falange.
Respeto no se presenta, ¿no?
>>75542584
Gramsci and XXI century "marxism" is just revisionism, it doesn't follow the same principles.
>>75542756
Anquita is just one man.
>>75542908
UPyD
>>75542908
Vox
>>75543004
Too small
Too inconsequential
Too alien to Spain multinational character
Heck, I would wonder if a multinational state like Spain can have a nationalist party at all!
>>75542385
>it's sexist to other genders.
That is absolutely disgusting and cucked.
>>75542908
Vox.
Partido Libertario
Comunión Tradicionalista Carlista
La Falange
>>75543075
>multinational
There is only one nation. An be a spa nationalist without being a castilian supremacist is possible.
>>75542980
Lol it's not like i meet ex-leninists on a daily basis.
>>75543075
Beyond that, if you do wanna vote nationalist, in whatever context that word may apply in Spain, then Vox makes sense
>>75542669
If you do not vote, PP wins.>>75542580
No one sane wants that.
>>75543007
One man whose sole presence makes Iglesias cry, he is a relevant figure to Podemos
>>75542385
Podemos & Co wanted to changed the name of the parliament from "Congreso de los Diputados" for "Congreso de las Diputadas".
Check my venezuelas
>>75543004
>>75543037
>>75543181
>voting small parties
>with D'Hondt
ayyy
>>75543028
I miss them desu, but they won´t get any seats
>>75543298
I thought they wanted to remove the " de los Diputados" part
sauce on that?
>>75543181
>Supporting libertarians and falangists at the same time
How does that even work?
>>75542789
The People's armies (all marxist countries have one) are always built after a successful marxist revolution. Not a single army from a modern democratic country can become loyal to the marxist agenda overnight. Literally you must bring it down and build it up again. That's what the classical marxist 'peace and love' speech is for.
>>75543215
Spain may be a nation, but can one really call nations like Euskal Herria part of that nation?
>>75543363
>>75543363
I'm not going to vote sth at the left of Vox. Sorry.
>>75543249
Well, you should, it is a very enjoyable experience if they are well-ridden patricians
>>75543363
>> voting small parties
In a parliamentary system it makes sense
It is not like in USA where if you dont vote republican the democrat gets in
>>75534295
>IU = Ultraleftards
>Being relevant ever
Pick one
>>75543417
In absence of a strong welfare state, the church will most surely pick up the slack, hence leading to a more traditional society.
>>75543508
Ultraleftists have (sadly) become the driving force of western culture since the 1960s (thanks to jewish media in great part)
Calling them irrelevant is failing to understand the current ordeal of the right
You a cucked nation, almost as bad as Greece lel. Tens of thousands of Spanish try and come here each year and we let in like maybe a few thousand at best.
BECAUSE WE'RE FUCKING FULL.
>>75543427
Classical marxists, the ones who built those armies, didn't have a "peace and love" speech. They openly proposed a violent revolution and the repression of reactionaries. That "peace and love" crap is a late XX-XXI centuries western thing.
Can we at least agree that this cunt is the worst leader of all of them?
>>75543415
>>75543415
Nah... you're right. I thought they wanted make it feminine.
>>75543587
A church that has not read the Gospel, like the barely literate Church of Old Times? May be
A Gospel-savvy Church is a force of anti-traditionalism, no different than Christianity's original role in the destruction of Greek-Roman Culture
A Gospel-savvy Church is unavoidable in this technological era, except more Popes like Pope "Europe shall be arabized" Francis in the future
>>75543363
Mira mis triples
>>75543746
* expect more Popes
>>75543696
thought so
don´t get me wrong, I hate that PC bullshit too. just wanted to get things right
>>75543778
no los veo
>>75543037
>public healthcare and education
>traditionalism
And that is why we need a better right wing
>>75543640
>Classical marxists, the ones who built those armies, didn't have a "peace and love" speech
Yes they did. They convinced the people that the responsible ones for all the wars and poverty in the world were the upper classes, so the people must fight them to bring the peace and equality again.
Now take that war class concept and apply it on gender, race, sexuality, etc. That's the cultural marxism you have now. They are more dangerous now than ever before.
>>75543599
I was talking about that party in Spain, sure here people vote left or cuckservatism, but never extreme left like communism and such.
Until now at least, the new party Podemos (We Can) is doing pretty good numbers for an antisystem party.
>>75543587
But falangists are anticapitalist and pro state control and nationalization of the economy.
>>75534295
I'm happy with that, i hope that they will help the process of Catalonia and Galiza independence, so that Portugal Will be Great Again with the Luso-Galaico alliance.
Luso-Galaico Alliance > Spain
>>75540202
>/int/ comes to troll /pol/
>>75543181
>Partido
>Libertário
pick one faggot :^)
>>75542727
sempre quis comer o cu de um /pol/yp, obrigado pela informação. Antes de te deitares deixa o lubrificante na mesinha de cabeceira.
>>75543694
B-but he is hot
>>75543862
No party can win without that. And the church says that the goverment should help the poor,it is probably a traditionalist stance
>>75543888
Didn't Spain already vote for anarchists and social syndicalists in the 30s?
>>75542727
Vou-te adicionar.
>>75543885
How is that a peace and love speech? They literally said that we have to kill or repress some sectors of society that are considered the enemy.
>>75543955
>Catalonia and Galiza independence
Before that happens we annex your poor ass country, faggot.
>>75543955
>Luso-Galaico Alliance > Spain
Kek. Galicia is the biggest drain in the economy. Only based Castilla is worth saving from this country.
>>75543955
>Luso-galaico
Are you mentally ill?
>>75543998
You are right
No party ever won an election by promising less entitlements
Also, economic policy is not a right-left issue, otherwise Hitler would be left-wing and Tito would be to his right
>>75544019
No. You dont vote for anarchists m8. That is just dumb. A lefties coalition won
>>75544019
M8, we're talking about modern day Spain, in the 30s there was a Civil War, it ends with a Fascist Regime that last until the 70s.
>>75543955
You're welcome.
>>75544189
>Also, economic policy is not a right-left issue
what concept of left and right do you have exactly?
>>75544189
And precisely that is why we need a new right wing
>>75534295
>Spain is a country for white men in a bar.
sure it was. more like tanned germans who thought they were white who acted the part but ultimately were tanned germans
>>75544209
>>75544268
Surely we can agree then that voting patterns aren't somehow static in the long run then?
If Podemos and PSOE can get 49 % of all votes, what is there to stop actual marxists from getting voted in
>>75544316
The original one of course, the one that developed out of the french revolution
Left Wing: People that has EQUALITY as the main pursuit of society
Center: people that has FREEDOM as the main pursuit of society
Right Wing: people that has BIO-CULTURAL SURVIVAL as the main pursuit of society
>>75543696
Podemos says they want to feminize politics, true story
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>>75542834
>One can't forget that the crusaders were more of a cultural remanent of the roman legions, than an actual military expression of Christianity
But crusaders had chivalry which values and virtues were a direct effect of Christianity
>One can't forget that Christianity is into itself an Other-Wordly Religion, which promises that this "evil world" will be destroyed by the Jewish War God, but only after christians suffered terrible oppression and openly reject the world and life itself
on which verses you assume all this
also
>jewish war god
jews in the bible=/=jews nowadays
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>>75542834
>>75544618
>The whole concept of "love your enemies
the concept is that a noble person is capable of forgiving his enemies, but it's not saying that they will be unpunished. Look at John Paul II who forgave his assasinator, but he spend he's sentence anyway. Also everyone must remember that one of the Cardinal Virtues is Courage. Nobody should look away when the weak are being hurted, it is a noble thing to protect them (just as Knight Orders who protected the pilgrims).
>hate your family and even yourself to prove your sainthood
what? The fifth commandment is literally "Honor your father and your mother.". In polish version it's even "praise" instead of "honor". God wants us to put him in the first place, but christian morality strongly puts how important are family bonds. That's why the jews are fighting it and sadly a lot of "freethinkers" go with it
>>75544655
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>self hatred
there is literally nothing like this in the Bible, you just prove how ignorant you are
The Bible says that we should love other close to us people like we love ourselves, and at the same time it takes egoism as one of the 7 main sins. This is made to teach people how to love yourself in a healthy way. Hating yourself puts you into suffering, that's also what the jewish media wants us to do. When we hate ourselves we're easier to fall into degeneracy.
> the strong shall fall, those that wanna live will die / those that wanna die will find new life"
is this a quote? Beacuse google refers me to Braveheart.
>One can't ignore that Jesus asked his followers to behave the exact opposite of Romans. Given that Romans were very down-to-earth guys, behaving opposite to them is an inversion of sanity, and an endorsement of craziness
never did anything like this, even in the Epistle to the Romans he's very warm towards them. Not to mention in the same Epistle (Romans 10:14) he talks about the Jews who rejected the God and stayed with their false leaders.
>not the Cruzaders interested in becoming strong,
more like protecting the Europe from total muslim invasion and reagaining the christian clay
>in gaining treasures in this world
it's a common myth that crusaders went to war for treasures. Explain why then so many Knight Clans bankrupted after the crusades
>and embracing life
more like protecting the lifes of the weak
>>75543492
You don't know shit about D'Hont, canal.
Why don't you get a king who isn't a cuck?
>>75544618
> on which verses you assume all this
You know... the whole... Apocalypse thing?
> jews in the bible=/=jews nowadays
Nonsense. Genetic studies prove a link of modern jews to middle eastern tribes of palestine
>>75544384
Nigger, Spain is ten times more white than muricah.
Hell, Do you know even where Spain is?No, isn't South of USA.
>>75544404
Sure thing, nothing is set in stone.
DON´T make Sanchez angry. he tends to loose control of his emotions (and his party´s longstanding position as the 1st/2nd force in the parliament ;^) ) when he loses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS3BLaLLkY8
>>75544504
wouldn´t that definitions be affected by economy anyways? specially when you talk about "equality" and "Freedom"
>>75534295
It's funny how the left changed from criticizing the banks, talking shit about Israel/USA and fighting for lax gun laws to gay shit and more immigrants for everybody.
>Tfw they are going to win the elections
>Tfw we won't have Albert Rivera as president
>Tfw our country will never be great again
>Tfw we are becoming Europe's Canada
>Tfw I can't move out because the rest of the world is becoming Canada
>>75544655
> the concept is that a noble person is capable of forgiving his enemies.
"DO NOT RESIST EVIL", "If they take your coat give them your shirt as well", "submit and carry your cross" makes it very clear that he does not mean just "forgiving your enemies", he literally asks you to let them get away with it, because the Jewish War God will punish them with Hell anyways
> Nobody should look away when the weak are being hurted
That would turn you into a slave of the weak, protecting the defenseless in a pointless, endless crusade
Note that this also gives moral justification to Leftist crusades against the strong (aka white men) to defend the weak (blacks, muslims, etc)
> The fifth commandment is literally "Honor your father and your mother.".
Jesus contradicts numerous commandments, and this one is not exception
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>>75539197
>>75539274
hmm, really makes you think....
>>75544769
>You know... the whole... Apocalypse thing?
I knew you would say this. The Apocalypse is one of the most mysterious books in the Bible, numerous times people relied to it during tough times (like the fall of Constantinopole. Not to mention that Jesus talk about the end of the OLD word and start of the NEW word. It is about the fight of God with the Antichrist (but this could not excatly mean some being, maybe it's just spreading degeneracy and fall of our civilization?) which the fight God will eventually win.
But nowhere there is said that everyone will be killed and life itself will end after this, this way of thinking is a common mistake and again you just show me how ignorant you are. If I am wrong then provide a bible verse that will say otherwise.
>Nonsense. Genetic studies prove a link of modern jews to middle eastern tribes of palestine
genetics yes. Beliefs not. Talmud was made about 700 years after the death of Christ
Seriously though, do they have a chance? They have behaved like little fucking kids so far, so I don't think anyone is going to negotiate with them, and the PP is still the most voted party...
Don't you think spaniards?
>>75545240
We are not going to have a goberment in the next 2 years,which in reality is probably for the best.
>>75535504
This made me laugh way too hard
>>75534295
Luckily, you're too poor for anyone to want to move there and increase your diversity.
Well, except German and British pensioners. But they'll only whiten up the place and increase your economy, then die.
![Kim-Sung[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EvQXhi2.jpg "Kim-Sung[1].jpg")
>>75543885
And that's exactly what Podemos stands for now. They haven't changed their speech not a little bit. Maybe new modern words, but the same old message: this is all someone else's fault, revolution will fix it.
>>75544699
> there is literally nothing like this in the Bible, you just prove how ignorant you are
Have you actually read the Gospel even once? Jesus literally demands this out of their followers
> is this a quote? Because google refers me to Braveheart.
We can actually discuss the actual quotes but I am gonna need to reduce your blocks to a single paragraph. It is impossible to debate like this
> never did anything like this
Jesus didn't write the "Epistle to the Romans "
> Explain why then so many Knight Clans bankrupted after the crusades
Because the crusades were a horrible failure
As for actual quotes that you seem to have never read:
> “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. 25For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
> “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. 25For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. "
> love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same?
They speak of embracing extremely unnatural behavior in order to receive delusional rewards in another life
>>75545240
Podemos > PSOE
PP > Cs
PP-PSOE coalition this time
>>75545058
>Tfw our country will never be great again
C´s is advoquing for more rapefugees and its por-EU. what does that have to do with MAGA?
>Tfw we are becoming Europe's Canada
At least canada was kinda relevant in the last century
>Tfw I can't move out because the rest of the world is becoming Canada
not with that attitude
White men in a bar built by white men, whose building codes were drawn up and enforced by white men, whose beer was produced by white men according to modern distilling techniques developed by white men, pumped through from a barrel to the tap using technology invented by white men, transported to the bar by vehicles invented and developed by white men...
>>75545432
sorry, this was for you:
>>75544095
>>75545224
How can I provide you a biblical verse that actually supports my position, that you won't actual take out of context and decide that it means the OPPOSITE of what it says
It is literally the same with everything written in the Gospel
no matter how insane and self-destructive Jesus' advice is, "right wing christians" have found a way to declare he actually didn't mean to say anything of what he said, making his religion pointless at best, and a cult for self-righteous self-appointed "enlightened ones" at worst
>>75545443
at least
>PP > Cs
PP are literal Jews and Rajoy sits on Merkel´s lap.I´m not sure if I can agree with your metric
>>75544894
> wouldn´t that definitions be affected by economy anyways? specially when you talk about "equality" and "Freedom"
Yes and no
in the "survival as the virtue" third you will find economic ideas BOTH from the socialist left and the capitalist center
>>75545631
I think he means that they are going to win more seats...
>>75545475
>C´s is advoquing for more rapefugees and its por-EU. what does that have to do with MAGA?
this anon is right
C's are extreme cuckservatives
>>75545690
oh, my bad m8
>>75545666
I could get behind that. Its not like there is a single economic approach that doesn´t fuck your shit up in certain situation, we have to be flexible
Also checked
>>75545707
>>75545475
Rivera said he would only take as many refugees as we are capable of (not like Sweden), and even Marie Lepene (or however you write it) has said that they would take legit refugees who are fleeing from war.
Besides, even if they were cucks, they are the only electable alternative.
>>75545666
> 666
Nietzsche confirmed for right
>>75545528
Podemos stands for massive repression and forced labour?
>>75545707
the only relatively mainstream party with an anti rapefugee policy is vox. Too bad they want to remove the gibsmedat and they reek a little bit of catholicism, just enough to make them an easy target for a smearing campaing in the media need it be (not that its the case, since its pretty much an irrelevant party).
We're doomed lads. It all comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down.
>>75545631
They are a bunch of corrupted cuckservatives, but the numbers are there.
PP still is the major Party in the country.
Cs isn't doing too well.
PSOE is bleeding since ZP.'s Gov. and Sanchez is an incompetent who can do shit to solve his party situation.
Podemos is raising drinking that blood.
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>>75545084
>"DO NOT RESIST EVIL", "If they take your coat give them your shirt as well", "submit and carry your cross" makes it very clear that he does not mean just "forgiving your enemies", he literally asks you to let them get away with it, because the Jewish War God will punish them with Hell anyways
You're reading it very directly which is a common problem that atheist and protestants have. Jesus encourage us to be a better persons, that self suffering is noble. Remember that he himself spend 40 days on the desert where the satan had tempted it. We are also temped everyday by Satan. And this is our cross that we have to carry on. Try to sometime read things in the Bible more metaphoricaly, you know like in the Parable of the Farmer Scattering Seed the farmer isn't really a person, it's a metaphor of God and his words. And nowhere in the Bible it is said that criminals should be unpunished, it's the opposite- the Bible talked about death penalty,
>Genesis 9:6
"Whoever sheds human blood, by humans shall their blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made mankind.
or Jesus who didn't defended the criminals that were hanged on the cross with him
>That would turn you into a slave of the weak, protecting the defenseless in a pointless, endless crusade
so you would turn around from your people that are being hurted on your very own eyes? Than you're a disgrace and you can't call yourself a man, rather a nu-male.
>>75545443
Fuck I'd hope so, but if PSOE formed a coalition with PP they would definitely disappear forever. Not that I'm complaining, but they may not like the idea.
>>75545631
PP will never recover. It has been cucked by the left for almost 30 years. They are ashamed and constantly censoring themselves. They don't even have an ideology anymore.
>tfw every country that was spared socialism in the 20th century is crazy about it today
I guess it's one of those things, where you have to get burned to learn your lesson.
At least it guarantees the EU won't last.
>>75534295
>country in the shitter in regards to employment
>lets bring in more people
You should sterilise these people.
>>75545934
Marie LePen also said that all the countries surrounding Syria (except Iraq) were safe countries, so France would literally take not a single rapefugee
also, he is not cuckservative not just in the "rapefugee" sense, but in the "muh cheap labour" sense, claiming that he wants to open Spain to talented labour immigration from all over the world, which translates into poointheloos getting hired while natives get fired
>>75546013
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>Note that this also gives moral justification to Leftist crusades against the strong (aka white men) to defend the weak (blacks, muslims, etc)
yeah well the leftist use the bible however they like to prove their point using false arguments check pic rel it sums it up pretty much how they think. The blacks/muslism are not weak and not oppressed, therefore this point of view that we should fight the white man is invalid. Remeber how strong is the picture of The Father in the Bible.
>Jesus contradicts numerous commandments, and this one is not exception
so prove me that with verses. For now you just post your foolish points based on some single verses from the Bible that I am sure you haven't read in your life, much more visited some edgy site that showed you how all this religion is stupid and every cool enlightened guy don't follows that. And you know what? You have all right to do this. But only in the Christian countries. Because when the muslims come they will view you as a creature even worse than me. Who will fight them? Atheist? lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAd72Gkfd4k
Al pepero y al podemita tiro en la nuca
>>75545967
No party actually stands for that in a democratic election. Not even the NSDAP back in the day. It happens after they win. That's why you the voter have to be smarter than them.
>>75542756
Quit shitting in your own country, it is not a shithole.
>>75546013
Why do you assume that Jesus does not mean those things directly?
Even then, if doing those cuckish things are examples of being a "better person", then why not actually do those cuckish things and be as saint as Jesus himself?
> so you would turn around from your people that are being hurted on your very own eyes? Than you're a disgrace and you can't call yourself a man, rather a nu-male.
That is like calling Genghis Khan a nu-male because he gave a fuck about destroying wholle countries. Makes zero sense.
Malehood has nothing to do with empty sentimentalism for third parties
I would only help people insofar they are not an actual menace to me, but Jesus' moralism does not have such concern, for it declares "weak" and "good" are synonimous, which makes zero sense
There are many weak and wretched things that need to be destroyed
>>75542908
So you are voting Podemos?
>>75546099
Not so crazy about it, the major party right now is the conservatve one, and that is after decades of corruption.
>>75545561
>How can I provide you a biblical verse that actually supports my position, that you won't actual take out of context and decide that it means the OPPOSITE of what it says
where the fuck did I did that? you said that x is the Apocalypse, so I asked you to give me a verse that says it's true, you can't do it so you give a lousy strawman because I can bet you didn't read the Apocalypse never in your life.
Also nice cherrypicking with just a few things I wrote, if this how you're want to discuss than I am ending this right now because it's pointless.
Remember /pol/ the jews have mocked and laughed at christianity in their media for so long with a very simple reason. They want to make white countries laicizied so their cultural marxism will win the hearts of people.
Compare this video from Catholic Poland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hakb6S0IpgY
with this video from atheist (or rather muslim) France
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU7pVnaxCM8
And judge for yourselves
>>75543433
Of course, Euskal herria is an invention created in the XIXth century to keep some económica benefits
>>75546176
You are extremely confused. Atheists like Dawkins are not the ones demanding for endless muslim immigration
The ones doing that are the Pope, the Church of England, and the Lutheran Churches
How can we actually argue about verses?
I have read the bible endless times. i used to be a radical christian as well.
Until I wise up about how demented all the "advice" written in the Gospel was
but we can't debate, because I have no guarantee that you won't immediatly declare that everything Jesus said meant the opposite of that because "metaphors and shit"
Taking in the most contextual reading, the whole of the Gospel is a call for self-righteous self-destruction
>>75546138
Well I agree with you, but if the poos help better our shit economy, I'd consider it a necessary evil. I don't think he's the best candidate possible either, I'm just saying I prefer him over the other ones.
>>75543694
he is worse everyday
