Explain to me how you trumpsters, alt-right people are different from those butch lesbians on tumblr? You both are obsessed with race, won't shut the fuck up about your precious ideologies, and throw words like "cuck" and "sjw" around, but when someone calls you virgins you get triggered and defensive as fuck https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3mmWYdonr3Y
>>75521695
>Explain to me how you trumpsters, alt-right people are different from those butch lesbians on tumblr?
We have balls, guns, and are not faggots like you (OP)
>>75521695
We are economically literate and don't have daddy issues
>>75521695
This, "alt-rights" and SJW's are both beta male collectivist statist losers
Libertarianism is for alphas
>>75522078
Apparently not since you guys get so defensive.
>>75522156
This
They are faggots anyway for hiding behind "race" or "nation," just like SJWs are shit for hiding behind "gender" or "muh under privilege status!" A real ubermensch can stand up as an individual and not need a herd to protect them.
>>75522140
Except your "economic literacy" caused the 2008 crash under "Dubya"
>>75522287
>get so defensive.
Your confusing "defensive" with alpha testosterone levels you beta cuck.
How does it feel to have a mangina?
>>75522344
Hm? I adhere to the Chicago school of economics and my idol Milton Friedman.
Don't strawman me by saying I'm a Bushtard
>>75522156
>>75522341
Not a libertarian, but I agree. At least you people aren't bible thumping conservatives trying to pose as libertarians to rebrand a shitty and failed right wing ideology
*Was
Libertarians USED to be alright. But if they had a little more T they'd be alt right.
We usually have facts and statistics to back up our biases
Also literally who cares about insults, you SJW cuck
>>75522156
>Libertarianism is for alphas
>>75522455
What failed right wing ideology would that be?
>>75522403
So your only two choices or 2 extremes? Beta male, and over emotional meat head?
>>75522403
>nigger-tier behaviour is 'alpha'
end yourself my lad
>>75522511
The one his father holds
>>75522532
>Canada trying to define alpha behavior
>>75522424
Those were Bush's policies. So yes, you are a bushtard, sorry. And Milton Friedman's views may work in a high school lunch room, or if everyone on earth was magically moral and believed in volunteering. Not in a world of global economics and 7 billion+ humans. The stop sign isn't there just to fuck with your head.
>>75522491
Not just insults, but alt-right fags are so easily triggered. I just have to show some hot interracial lesbian porn and they start all flipping out like SJWs are a Cards Against Humanity Tournament.
And at least SJW stays away from the chans. Fucking stormcunts come on here, knowing what it is, and get all in a tissy when their pure white American feelings get hurt.
>>75521695
>its a fat ugly guy with your opinion thread
>>75522723
Bush's fiscal policy was Keynesian, same as Obama's.
The Chicago School is not Keynesian.
Also, insult Milton again and I'm going to throw you out of a helicopter
>>75522526
>2 extremes?
You are so mild and progressive, please tell me more about your cucked way of life.
>>75522511
What has conservatism accomplished? Hasn't been civil rights, certainly not economics. Foreign policy is obvious. Conservatism isn't the pioneers in science or the arts. Basically it's biblical fundamentalism and the usual racial, anti gay stuff. Btw I'm not an atheist either, I'm Christian. Frankly, I find it gross how some conservatives view the poor, etc. And than hide behind Christianity.
>>75522723
lol you don't have an actual argument so you rely on the "every republican loves dubya" meme.
Anyone who thinks Dubya or right wing politics caused the economic crash of 2008 has to be a double digit IQ beta who never spent an hour of their life trying to understand economics.
>>75522884
Never said I liked Obama, I don't. And "greed" is not good, ambition and innovation is good.
>>75522971
By definition your defense of the Obama Status quo and rejection of Trump makes you a conservative
All conservative means is status quo
>>75523070
Greed is human nature
Ambition and innovation are run on greed
I prefer the word incentive over greed though
>>75522901
This is the problem with you people- someone criticizes you, you call them "cuck". If you were some tumblr feminist, it would be "racist" or "misogynist". You're only proving my point of how easily triggered you are.
>>75522344
>2008 housing crash
>not caused by Clinton, HUD, the GSES, and his financial deregulation
>>75523213
>>75522971
So your a cucked liberal faggot that thinks he knows what libertarianism is. And I think its gross how most christians view the poor as being these downtrodden victims of an evil capitalist system that have no need for personal responsibility because "jezus said help Jemal lol."
>>75523072
Never said I didn't like trump, I just don't put complete unquestioned loyalty into one man, like the right does with trump and the left with bernie. Some things I like and don't like. And the status quo isn't a singular thing. It's broken down into parts and levels.
>>75522156
>Libertarianism is for alphas
A perfect example of libshit alpha
>>75522474
>>75523245
But deregulation is what conservatives prefer. So why are you criticizing and blaming the political party that passed laws that you favor? Also, the Bush tax cuts affected a lot of the market- putting 2 wars on the national credit card, etc.
>>75523213
>how easily triggered you are.
>implying I am triggered
>implying I give a shit about what you think
>implying that people on an Asian, anime, may-may board give a fuck about your petty arguments.
If you came here to have some kind of faggoty debate while drinking a latte, you are barking up the wrong tree.
>>75521695
>Explain to me how you trumpsters, alt-right people are different from those butch lesbians on tumblr?
Simple, most alt right people will actually talk to you if you don't come with strawmen arguments or broad brush statements, if you come in like you are now expect to be trolled, be mocked or called out over it.
>You both are obsessed with race
Everyone is to some point, the difference is we are open and express our opinions regardless of criticism, this is free speech in action, as with all speech, if you disagree with it then by all means point it out and become involved in the conversation.
>won't shut the fuck up about your precious ideologies
So does everyone else, simply because we now chose to be boisterous about it this is a problem why?
>and throw words like "cuck" and "sjw" around
You mean how regressives have chucked around "racist", "bigoted" and fascist like it is going out of fashion,don't be upset if we are simply stooping to the same level and beating you at your own game.
>but when someone calls you virgins you get triggered and defensive as fuck
So why are you getting triggered when we throw around the term "cuck" and "sjw", why do you find the idea that we have the right to be offended just as you are so abhorrent?
>>75523294
Never said anything about libertarianism, I said conservatism. Read again. And what Jesus said is quite simple- help the poor. You love your gross ideology more than showing compassion and spreading God's love, and it's a risk of going to hell over. Your pseudo christians.
>>75523663
If you didn't give a shit what I thought, you wouldn't have replied.
>>75523745
The bible also said those who will not work and are able-bodied will not eat
>>75521695
>explain to me my basic rights under law i'm a progressive centrist who thinks you are both the same.
>>75521695
>You people who don't have a single belief in common are exactly the same because I'm a thin-skinned bitch who is terrified of criticism and hides behind nihilism to keep my fragile ego safe
>>75523803
>If you didn't give a shit what I thought, you wouldn't have replied.
>What is a troll?
>>75523677
So your basically argument is "others are like that, we can be too". Ok.
>>75523812
I agree. Doesn't mean I need to demonize the less fortunate. And people have different life experiences.
>>75523933
Your simple mindedness is giving me brain damage
>>75521695
/pol/ BTFO
>>75523886
There's nothing to criticize about me, because I've never really stated my political views and beliefs "except I'm Christian) you're basically criticizing my criticism of your very vocal views.
>>75524146
>>Christian
>>shaming men for being virgins
pick one. Chastity is a virtue
>>75523745
You responded to something I said asking you to clarify your statement on libertarians.>>75522455
So yes, it was about libertarianism.
>And what Jesus said is quite simple- help the poor. You love your gross ideology more than showing compassion and spreading God's love, and it's a risk of going to hell over. Your pseudo christians.
You retarded cristcucks act as if poor people are just victims of capitalism and are not in any way responsible for there condition.
>>75524170
I never shamed men for being virgins. I asked how you can be offended by virgin when you call others cucks, etc.
>>75524409
What I'm offended at is that people think calling a man a virgin is a valid insult. It speaks to how degenerate society has become.
>>75524146
>There's nothing to criticize about me, because I've never really stated my political views
So exactly as I said. You hide whatever you believe because you're deathly afraid of criticism.
>>75524262
You responded to my post >>75522971
>>75524468
But yet calling others "cucks", etc, is acceptable?
>>75524480
No, I'm just complicated and I don't put all my eggs in one basket and call myself "liberal or conservative or libertarian". Depends on the issue, the facts and circumstances.
Fresh OC
>>75524497
>18 posts in this shitty thread
>accusing others of being butthurt and defensive
>>75524551
so you're just saying it's wrong for anyone to insult anyone ever? You want a safe space where everyone has to use neutered language?
I never said I want people censored or punished for calling me or anyone else a virgin, I just want them to know it's wrong.
>>75522287
>attacks entire group of people
>is surprised they defend themselves
oh haha wow
>>75524497
I know.
That post was in response to this>>75522511
Which was a response to this>>75522455
>>75524654
All I've done is asked questions, and rebutted a few. I've been called cuck and others were just triggered. Some actually said valid posts, I'm just trying to keep up with so many. Sorry if I didn't get back to anyones.
>>75524644
Dank.
>>75524635
>No, I'm just complicated
You really aren't.
>I don't put all my eggs in one basket and call myself "liberal or conservative or libertarian". Depends on the issue, the facts and circumstances.
Which is to say you're a spineless pussy who would rather waffle to anything that covers your ass than stand for something and stick to your guns.
>>75524895
yeah he is a total waffle, but let's be real: no one entirely identifies with their party's platform
>>75523933
If that is what you took away from what I said then that is fine, it is not up to me to convince you if you have your mind made up already.
If, and when, you decide to be up for an honest and open discussion then /pol/ will be here, if you want to just shitpost then /pol/ will be here, if you want to be an ignorant moron then /pol/ will be here.
Unlike a lot of other places on the internet at least /pol/, and by extension the alt right, are not a bunch of free speech censors, we may think you are retarded for holding your views but we will not censor you from saying it.
>>75524828
According to you any sign of anger is inherently bad, and unless someone's neutral, moderate and calm in every word they say they're inferior to you. I ask, what's wrong with anger? What's wrong with insults? What's wrong with being more decisive instead of pretending you're perfectly neutral and never anger over anything?
>>75524635
So, you're a libtard cuck. There is no such thing as someone who doesn't follow an ideology.
>>75522287
>Asks a question
>Gets an answer
>"You guys are so defensive!!"
>>75524794
Well conservatives attempt to make themselves appear libertarian, but the base still believes in government intervention socially (gay marriage, marijuana, etc) and in the 90s and 2000s some wanted censorship on video games and porn. Many still want censorship on porn, but games are now facing censorship from the left. My point is at least libertarians are across the board "no government"
>>75524978
This.
Pro-censorship people are only part of the "alt-right" and /pol/ and if you ever read a thread about censorship and speech, you'll find many views that often disagree with each other. Some alt-rightists take a hardline anti-Enlightenment reactionary view and are anti- free speech but this is far from the majority.
>white male Hillary supporters
OP, how do you feel about supporting Saudi Arabia and China's choice for President?
>>75524895
You haven't asked me what I think about a specific issue. All you're doing is name calling.
>>75525088
Scalia defended vidya games more than any other Justice.
>>75525088
so let's get this straight. You yourself say it's better to be nuanced instead of needing to follow every point of a platform exactly.
Meanwhile you actually prefer the libertarians because they do just that.
If someone were to say that certain social issues are worthy of government intervention and certain ones aren't, suddenly you aren't OK with this because it isn't a consistent platform.
>>75522971
Then you should be all for Trump, because he's neutral on gays, supports trannies in restrooms, and is against the current SJW political correctness shit.
>>75524978
Maybe not on /pol/, because you're not the moderators, but in other arenas I've seen it (youtube, breitbart, etc) so thank you for granting me a right you have no real authority over.
>>75524996
What are you so angry about than, if I may ask?
>>75525088
I am somewhat well versed in 90 paleolibertarian literature and I don't remember them wanting the state to censor video games and porn. All I remember was ancaps that were pro-family and pro-borders.
>>75525088
>>75525088
Also do you know history at all? Do you realize that what you're defining as "Conservatives" were actually the liberals (classical liberals) of their day back in the 1800's? And then before the French Revolution pretty much every point on the American political spectrum would have been considered radically liberal (compared to Monarchist traditionalist).
You're defining "conservative" as "modern american politicians that call themselves conservative"
>>75525147
>You haven't asked me what I think about a specific issue
That doesn't matter. You already said that you glibly shift platforms "depending on the issues, the facts, and circumstances." Why should I ask what your foundation is when you just told me you don't have one?
>>75525175
He did, American family association disagrees however.
>>75525233
I don't prefer libertarians, I said they were consistent with their "no government" views.
>>75525289
See >>75523072 #
>>75525569
As I've stated >>75523072 #
>>75525646
Which do you value more? consistency or being able to pick depending on the issue?
For example, if I were to say that pornography is a social ill and the government should intervene to prevent children from being damaged mentally, but don't agree that all video games should be banned, is there something inherently wrong with me becuase I'm not consistent ?
>>75525297
>but in other arenas I've seen it (youtube, breitbart, etc)
You mean people censored you for being liberal on YouTube? Seems unlikely.
Also, Breitbart has comment sections?
Seems like you're just a shill pulling shit out of your ass.
>>75525722
What is this even supposed to imply?
I'm pulling out the big one for this.
>>75525569
Sorry, wrong post >>75523369 #
>>75525297
I never granted you the right, I simply pointed out that you have it.
Free yourself of this victim mindset and realize that you have always had free speech, you are just starting to realize that others are now flexing the same right you had.
>>75525966
I don't put unquestioning loyalty into one man either, but I still believe Trump is the best option out of what is available. I see Hillary as the bigger threat.
My real beliefs are that democracy with a universal franchise is inherently flawed, but this is something that cannot be fixed by any of the candidates at this point.
>>75525874
It depends if you've established yourself in a certain ideology. If you said that, while claiming to be a no government libertarian, than yes. Context and who says it are important. Just like there is a difference between Louis ck saying a racial joke and rush Limbaugh saying one.
>>75525825
>I've stated
>I
>(ID: RMrbk89y)
>(ID: u5gq/IjP)
That is what someone else has said you are, but you have not made any explicit confirmation or denial of that. You did however say that you identify as whatever is momentarily convenient, and apparently it is convenient for you right now to be called a conservative.
>>75525966
You're not saying a god damn peep of what you actually believe. You're just very vaguely saying what you don't. Not one poster ITT is asking what you don't believe.
>>75525931
Go to breitbart and read their articles comment sections. And I posted the wrong post, my bad.
>>75526165
I'm not a no-government libertarian. I don't have a perfectly set ideology either, just like you. I just disagree with you on many of your points.
But somehow you're probably going to accuse me of having a set ideology simply becuase I support Trump at all.
>>75526009
You don't even have to tell me I have the right, I know I do lol and there is no victimhood on my part. I haven't lashed out and got defensive when called names. Others though have gotten defensive for merely asking questions
>>75526366
>I haven't lashed out
>Explain to me how you trumpsters, alt-right people are different from those butch lesbians on tumblr? You both are obsessed with race, won't shut the fuck up about your precious ideologies, and throw words like "cuck" and "sjw" around, but when someone calls you virgins you get triggered and defensive as fuck
This sounds like lashing out
>>75526366
>You don't even have to tell me I have the right, I know I do lol
>so thank you for granting me a right you have no real authority over.
No but your snarkiness is definitely shining through this belied calm exterior and the wording you have does make me suspicious.
It could be the fact that I am jaded and have seen so many people act like this before I am preconceiving the type of person you are.
Then again it is not up to me to decide what type of person you are, you are making this decision for me by the way you are acting.
If you want me to take what you are saying deliberately then that is fine, I am looking forward to it, if you want to shitpost that is cool as well as I enjoy good shitposters.
>>75526268
Ok, than that's fine. All I'm saying is that someone people are concrete in their label, I'm not. I wasn't specifically talking about you, you're an individual. I was mentioning the alt-right as a whole. Me personally, I'm pro life against abortion, but can understand some cases where women may need it. I'm pro marijuana but against legalizing hard drugs. I think universal healthcare should be in place, free college but against the minimum wage. However in favour of social nets. I understand the Syrian refugees need to leave their lands with the threats they face, but also understand Europeans worrying about their borders. I love video games, but yes I believe in a link between violence and games/movies. And I believe people shouldn't sleep around with each other (but that's none of my business). . Just to name a view.
>>75526536
My snarkiness towards your patronizing posts, yes.
>>75526492
You didn't point out where I was wrong though.
>>75526851
That's fine. But you do realize that the "alt-right" is more than just Milo , Trump and Breitbart followers, and there are many disagreeing groups that use the label. For example, Milo supporters and actual bona-fide National Socialists would oppose each other, and there are regular anti-milo threads on /pol/ from that group calling him out on promotion of homosexuality. Then you have the Neo Reactionaries, which oppose the entire paradigm of American politics and often prefer monarchy or other traditional governments (many of these don't even support any candidate since they see the whole process as a farce). Views about race and social issues vary greatly even among people who use the label "alt-right" which is why I avoid it and think it's a stupid label.
>>75526851
>I'm pro life against abortion, but can understand some cases where women may need it.
Then you are not Pro-life, only Pro-life when it suits you.
>I'm pro marijuana but against legalizing hard drugs
Marijuana is a gateway drug that leads to harder drugs
>I think universal healthcare should be in place, free college but against the minimum wage.
You believe other people are entitled to other peoples money and private property.
From what I just read you fit the label of someone who is retarded
>>75527029
So you admit you are being snarky, I was never being patronizing, I was treating you as an equal, if you perceive being treated as an equal as patronizing then who truly is the bigot here?
(BTW this is me being snarky back, it is rhetorical in case you decide to answer as you are the bigot by your very words.)
>>75527102
I've seen "the right" argue with each other on, thefederalarticales.com (something to that affect) and certainly see it in this election year. And liberals are the same way (hence the lines drawn between hilary and bernie supporters) I was talking about the particular, cliche trump supporters who go on and on about feminists/race and use words like cuck and sjw...just as the cliche tumblr feminists go on about the same things, and use words like virgin and manchild, etc. I still don't see a difference between the two.
>>75527380
>I still don't see a difference between the two
You have eyeballs in your eye sockets, yes?
cuck and sjw are words
virgin and manchild are words
Yes they are both words but they are different words with different meanings.
>>75527191
Abortion issues aren't all the same, different events happen to different people. I don't believe in demonizing them though- they have enough on their plate. Marijuana could lead to other drugs, just as beer could lead to moonshine or alcoholism. And we already pay for other people's healthcare. The U.S spends more on healthcare than any other first world country. And that won't change, universal healthcare is just more cost effective. And free university isn't a radical idea- it use to be free.
>>75527202
I'm not gonna play this game back and fourth with you dude. Lol I'll just say ok.
>>75527380
the worst offenders in my opinion are the so-called right-wingers who ALSO call fellow right-wingers virgins and manchildren (especially virgins, I think there's some merit in extreme cases for the second one)
I think there's a fundamental hypocrisy in someone who claims to be traditional and for family values and chastity but then shames men for being virgins. At least a feminist who insults a man for not "getting laid" is coming from the perspective of pro sexual liberation.
>>75527543
Both coming from defensive groups who are easily triggered and use words to attempt to discredit dissenters.
>>75527796
Except the right doesn't look half as obnoxious as the left when triggered
>>75527726
I can see that. I see it between trump and cruz supporters a lot. And even though I am a Christian and go to church, I really don't see the people who proclaim to have "family values" as anything special or particularly good. That crowd tends to have the anti gay, do as I say mentality. Which is fine, except when they push it on others. I'm traditional in that sense because I choose to be. I don't brag on about it or shove it down others throats.
>>75528048
They certainly do at some rallies and debates.
>>75528135
>I don't brag on about it or shove it down others throats.
> I really don't see the people who proclaim to have "family values" as anything special or particularly good.
Then you are not Christian
>>75521695
Category error is the logical fallacy you are currently engaged in.
>>75527695
That is your right to back out of the conversation, it was a pleasure talking to you and I look forward to your continual posting on /pol/ as we accept. mock and ridicule everyone on this board equally.
>>75528214
I'm not a fundamentalist. Faith is one thing, but secularism is important. I don't want a Christian version of Saudi Arabia.
>>75528189
>Trump holds a rally with his supporters
>a bunch of Bernie bros show up and disrupt and wave mexican flags around trying to antagonize the Trump supporters
I have yet to see the opposite happen to Bernie at one of his rallys
>>75528283
>but secularism is important
You can't be holier than thou and then claim to love secularism
>>75528295
Yes, you are right. And they've gotten violent as well. Bernie supporters can be just and delusional and obsessed. Doesn't excuse the fights at trumps rallies or some of his rhetoric.
>>75528354
Never claimed I was "holier than thou". And secularism is the reason you can express and live your life as you wish, with fear of a religious group restraining your rights threw the government. I think we do much better than looking like the middle east. It's scary when conservatives and Islamic extremists both agree on something- they hate secularism.
>>75521695
did he try to criticize someone for pointing out his blatant hypocrisy only to come off as even more of a hypocrite? Damn, I thought Milo was actually smart. He fell right into this one though. He really needed to just dodge that question, this will come back to bite him.
>>75528654
Well at the end, basically saying "fuck you"..if that's not being triggered I don't know what is.
>>75528642
You are a disingenuous retard.
>I believe leftist bullshit but I'm not a leftist.
>Conservatives aren't christians because they hold the poor accountable but I'm not holier than thou.
>>75521695
>SJWs and Alt-Righters have strong beliefs about political issues
>This means they are exactly the same.
muh horseshoe theory
>>75528768
Secularism is actually "leftist", it's middle of the road. It doesn't favour belief or non-belief..it just leaves it out entirely. And holding someone accountable is one thing, demonizing the poor or passing laws and making policies that specifically target them and hurt them is wrong, which some conservative law makers and politicians have done.
>>75528765
I honestly liked Milo a lot before seeing that video, but I'm not a delusional poltard either, this was just poor form. Seeing someone use his own thin logic against him and watching him resort to the same rhetoric that he criticizes others for is just delicious.
>>75529015
I want to know who those politicians are so I can personally thank them.
