what's the most redpilled parenting style and why is it Permissive parenting?
Huh....guess I'm a #PussyMissle now
>>75519318
All aboard the Grandparent at 35 express! Toot toot!
>>75519318
>having a permissive mother and a uninvolved father
i dun goofed
Left Libertarianism is not real.
>>75519318
its authoritative u dumb cunt
>>75519437
how
>>75519318
Yeah letting your kids become degenerates who think they own the world sure works out great when you apply it to everyone in civilization. We have so many sophisticated Cultured swpls who are just doing so swell with their emotional identity issues and mental illnesses.
>>75519318
For a child to be raised correctly it requires an Authoritarian Father, who guides and directs the child from above, and a Permissive Mother, whose main purpose is to nurture and console the child rather than give it any kind of direction.
>>75519318
Authoritative mom, Permissive dad. God tier combo.
>>75520026
That is literally the most cucked combo possible. Such relationships always have the role of the mother and father reversed, the woman holding the power, and the man being her servant.
>>75519787
Yeah and authoritative parenting leads to psychopaths, and serial killers because their parents do not give the children to freely express themselves and rather conform to social norms. This isn't the 20th century, permissive parent is the way to go where children have less chance of becoming an anti social or serial killer.
>>75519318
No dad uninvolved mom feel
I'm as freeeee as a biiiiird
Authoritative leads to kids that are semi-spoiled but used to analyzing things
Authoritative leads to bets followers or sluts or rebels.
Permissive leads to sluts and low achievement
Uninvolved leads to messed up kids
>Authoritative is the only option.
>>75519318
Permissive parenting turned me into a complete fuckup with a criminal record and no job history
I'm a 27 year old friendless NEET living in the basement thanks to that "parenting" style
>>75520116
>the woman holding the power, and the man being her servant
Don't project your own childhood please.
>>75519534
Offspring and offspring's kid have children at age 17 or under.
>>75520134
This is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. You do realize how uncommon serial killers are right? Permissive parenting isn't parenting at all, you cannot expect a child to know right from wrong and establish it's own goals. To be permissive to your child is to hate your child.
>>75520026
Tiger mom + cuck dad is the absolute worst
>>75519318
Authoritative seems to be the right idea to me.
>>75520254
Really makes you tink, guess I'm a #Cruzmissile now
abusive
that's what I got and I turned out redpilled af
>>75520254
Hi three year older me.
With balance.
Sometimes a friend is needed, sometimes a firm hand is needed. Like women, not one strategy works 100% of the time, you need to be reactive and perceiving.
>>75520369
Lemme play Devil's advocate here. Maybe they value gentle guidance and self-determination over social conformity.
>>75520254
Same here to be honest.
Well, I lived with an Authoritarian dad and permissive mom for 13 years. But my dad was too authoritarian, and my mom devised a plan to leave my dad and move 2000 miles away to another city. So I lived with my mom for the next 6 years. I think her parenting made me more complacent and lazy.
But my dad made me scared and timid. :(
:(
>>75520372
Cuck dad + cuck mom is worse, inevitably leads to children who are completely unable to function as adults
>>75520116
I can confirm.
>>75520134
I'd raise a psychopath before I raise a degenerate.
>>75519441
are you me though
>>75520372
>tiger mom
Read what I wrote again
>cuck dad
More like cool dad who lets you and your friends do whatever they want (within reason)
>>75519318
I had two super-authoritative parents. The key is to learn that they express their love through their high expectations and strictness and that they always enunciate what you are doing wrong because they assume I already am aware of what I am doing right.
It's rough at first but in the end its a good parenting style.
>>75520442
Funny how ODD can lead to hatred of the powers that be, isnt it, anon.
>>75519318
Both parents were permissive.
They were both from poor european immigrant families (they often had no money to buy food) and worked their hardest to give me the best education possible while slowly redpilling me through my life.
Meanwhile, shitskins everywhere are living off welfare and getting everything my parents worked hard to have just because they are poor. Actually, one called me an "opressor because I come from a family that doesn't know what it's like to be poor" this week just for being white.
I want off this ride.
>>75520333
That isn't my childhood, I was raised by a single father. The role of the Authoritarian parent is supposed to be held by the Man, just as he holds authority over his wife. The role of the Permissive and nurturing parent is to be held by the Woman, just as she is supposed to submit to her husband. The only time that these natural roles are reversed is when the father is a complete cuck who lacks the balls to control his wife. This isn't something you can deny.
>>75520671
you know me
>>75519443
Keep telling yourself that, buddy.
>>75520026
Fucking kill yourself
Authority all the way. Parents don't hit their kids anymore and let them do anything they want, nurture them too much. If I misbehaved I was whipped with a belt, locked outside the house in winter(for short time, til I apologized and begged to get in) and in some cases just ignored. And when my father caught me from cutting my wrists when I was 14-year-old edgelord, he didn't let me drown in self-pity and think I'm the victim, he punished me because I was so stupid for doing something like that. When I was 16 my parents mocked be because I couldn't get a summerjob and jus lazed around, so I made sure I got one next summer. And I grew up to be a good citizen who respects authority, self-control and most importantly other people. The "friendly parent" meme needs to end.
>>75520746
Bud, this is a parenting style chart not a domestic relationship chart.
>>75520520
A woman can't be a cuck, women are supposed to be gentle and accepting. A woman who behaves like a man is defective. It's the father who has the responsibility not to be a cuck or any cringe "cool dad" bullshit
>takes the role of a friend
This is how we made millenials
>>75520746
Also I have a theory as to why your mom left.
>>75520809
>My parents were so abusive I self-harmed, for which they abused me
>Great parents
Sure, whatever helps you justify it man.
>>75520616
Letting your child do whatever they please isn't good. The child may think it's good because they're having a good time, but just because something feels good and is fun doesn't mean it's healthy. It only leads to the child being undisciplined, and stifling the child's chances of success in adulthood. If you truly love your child you do not spare the rod.
>>75520809
Honest question, why didn't you kill yourself? It sounds like your parents were assholes to be honest and I would probably wish death upon them.
i think you have some bad demons in you
>>75519318
authoritative > authoritarian >>> uninvolved > (power gap) > permissive parent
>>75519318
At the beginning of youth, top left. At teenage, take the bottom left or top right, depending on how your kid turned out.
Very subtle communist shill thread.
>>75521012
I hate occupy democrats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016
That list is full of good people.
>>75520845
Women become cucks when they put their child's feeling ahead of its long term development
Children can cuck their mothers
>>75520965
I didn't self-abuse because of that, I was just depressed for some dumb reason and heard about it on the internet.
>>75521012
I had some suicidal thoughts as a teen but got over it. My grandma who raised 5 kids alone(young widow) told me to get over it and that depression isn't real, people just don't work enough anymore so they have too much time to be depressed. I love and respect my parents they didn't let me to become a self-pitying beta. I think it's good to raise boys not to feel so much, now boys are so feminine when they're taught it's okay to cry and have feelings.
>>75520809
Hahahaha holy shit get a load of this mentally ill cuck. Jesus fuck. This is why I don't look at poor people.
>>75521012
>KKK leader David Duke
Was one 40 years ago.
>Russian dictator Vladimir Putin
He's not a dictator.
>Pro-rape blogger Roosh V
This is a bullshit lie.
>>75520947
Any theory you can come up with would be wrong.
>>75519318
(You)
>>75521238
The father should decide this, women are terrible at long term planning anyway and don't know what actually matters. The father should direct, reward and punish the children, the mother should only provide muh feels to help them psychologically cope with the harsh realities of life.
Authoritative Left is the only way
>>75521351
>raised by a single father
>thinks he can chime in on parenting advise
>>75521253
Holy shit, are you serious or trolling me? Do you really believe the shit you're saying? It is sad of true.
>>75521116
Yes, a parent leaving a child to become feral honestly is better than coddling it to become a complete weakling.
>>75519318
I have noticed that kids with Authoritarian parents are often rebellious when they grow up
>>75520254
>manchildren blaming their parents for becoming manchildren
>>75521449
I can chime in on parenting advice because I've seen what the lack of a fathers authority does to children, it turns them into degenerate faggots.
>>75520254
>manchild blaming parents for becoming a manchild
only on 4chan, folks
>>75519318
you definitely want medium to high warmth but on the other scale you can go either way
you gotta have a bit of a balance, there's advantages and disadvantages to each approach but a mix is the best of both worlds
too authoritative and you get an insecure child who habitually bases his or her self-worth approval
too permissive and you get a disrespectful child that doesn't understand the consequences of his or her actions
permit them to make mistakes but control them by demonstrating the consequences of their actions, either by not protecting them from the natural consequences of their actions, or by taking away your implicit support of their actions as a parent who feeds and funds their life
>>75519441
yep that's me
sad thing is there is no real connection/bond formed with an uninvoled parent, I keep in touch with my mom but haven't heard from my dad in a good while, know little about him and couldn't care less to be honest
>>75521572
>>75521475
oops posted twice, that's gonna look retarded
>>75521572
>>75521475
Yes we get it
>>75521469
Not only that, it made me submissive and gave me a fetish for being spanked.
>>75519318
>Implying anything but Authoritative parenting is good
Come on anon, top left is clearly the best.
>>75521627
That's ok, you were already retarded begin with bud. Sheltering your kids from any other human contact but being a special snowflake is what created the sjw generation.
Authoritative parenting, slowly transitioning to permissive as the child matures and proves to be a good decision maker, and only if they prove themselves.
>>75521739
This has nothing to do with sjws. The guy was just putting blame on his parents for becoming a neet.
He should ultimately take responsibility for how his life turned out.
>>75519441
>>75520598
>>75521616
>Nigger countries with nigger parent qualities
Color me shocked
The ultimate redpill is that those raised in dysfunctional households such as >>75520809
grow up to become subhuman brain-damaged poverty-cucks. They pollute the streets with their heroin addiction and fiendish attempts to fill the insatiable hunger for the validation that their parents never gave to them.
The only solution is to put them down before they cause further damage on society and reproduce, creating more cucks.
>>75521627
What looks retarded is thinking that parenting isn't the single biggest factor that will determine how a child will turn out
>>75521949
Yes, here is the clarified chart
>>75522035
Man the fuck up, Manchild, take responsibility for your actions. Get a fucking job.
NO. Friends are friends, parents are parents, kids need and subconsciously crave discipline, being a friend is being a bitch to your kid. They'll get out of control and won't respond to you because they think you're their equal.
>>75522108
They think it's the parenting, but it's really the genes. Only weakling people would have such a faggot parenting style anyway. He can't fix himself because he was fucked since he was born, not since his parents did anything to him.
>>75521949
>>75522085
my dad is white, but he's mentally troubled
>>75519318
>God Tier - Authoritative
Children grow up to take care of themselves, plus are able to both respect yet question those in positions of power or authority.
>Normie Tier - Permissive
Faggots, feminists and cucks flow freely from this zone.
>Loser Tier - Authoritarian
Psychos and bullies abound here. All they know to do is follow in the footsteps of their psychotic, bully predecessors.
>Shit Tier - Uninvolved
Full-blown degeneracy runs rampant in this area. Cannon fodder.
I'm gonna have to disagree here. You need a mix of permissive and authoritative. Especially when they're younger. You don't have any guarantee that their negative qualities will be sorted out with when you let them out on the world, or that they're ready for it.
Thinking any one parenting style is applicable to all children is fucking stupid though.
>>75522108
>man up
Meaningless phrase, akin to "embrace the future" and other such nonsense
>get a job
Okay let me just put on my job hat and go down to the job store and pickup a job
You're a cuck
high control - low warmth is absolute shit tier
>>75522338
I'm a cuck? Yet you're the faggot making excuses for why you can't work? Fuck off leech
>>75519318
Authoritarian mum, Authoritative dad.
>>75522421
Stop being a bitch to >>75522338
It's not his fault that his parents were gigantic assholes.
>>75519318
Both parents are authoritarian. All of my brothers and i all did extremely well in school, never did drugs, never drank, did well in sports, and never got in trouble with the law. I dont know if my family is an exception, but i can say this, every single fuck up i know has at least one uninvolved parent (usually the dad) and the mom is permissive.
>>75520351
shiiiiiieeeeeeeeeet
I wish I had an authoritative daddy to put me in my place.
Authoritative parents is the best.
Basically, you debate and go half way. Kid wants to go to a concert. You initially want to say no, but ask for something in return.
This style has proven to be the best way to raise children. Being completely controlling does not work as well as people think it should.
>>75522421
Yes you are a cuck who had no idea about growth and development
You are the biggest cuck ITT there is no disputing that
>>75522637
t. 27 year old neet
I feel bad for you.
>>75520809
t. Average real finn
>>75521924
sjw's are /neet/'s essencse anon, they have become hindered to their own progress due to shitty parenting.
>>75521293 (You)
>>75519318
You must establish that you are the leader but not be so authoritative that they develop resentment towards you and desire to act out against your wishes. It's a balance, like many things.
Don't be niave, especially with daughters. Keep your girls locked away and your boys on a leash. Girls tend to get involved in sex and boys with drugs, again don't be niave know what to look for. Best to avoid living in a shitty area, which means you have to work on not being a loser at this point in your life... however if you think shitskins are a problem now just you wait, you pretty much have to be in an extremely rich or rural area to avoid them.
who /noparents/ here?
>>75522692
Id rather be NEET for life than be a cucknadian trying to bully people on 4chan
>>75519969
This
My mother took the role of Permissive and my father Authoritarian.
When I was a kid, I loved my mother more than my father. In fact, I'd probably go so far to say as a kid, I really hated my father.
But as I grew up, I realized my father did so much more for me than my mother ever did. He was the whole reason I am where I am today. He pushed me, and expected results from me. I got so much done simply because I didn't want to let my father down.
I didn't need a friend out of my mother. Because of that, I was often lazier than I should have been simply because, "It's okay, mum will take care of everything"
Kids don't need friends from their parents. They need parents. Discipline, expectations and strict guidelines.
My sister currently has two kids, both her and her husband are both Permissive. Her two kids are the most spoilt pieces of shit imaginable. I fucking hate them little shits.
>>75522570
No, but seriously, having no dad and an uninvolved mom is the reason my boyfriend beats my ass if I don't get good grades. You're kids will end up faggots like me if you don't raise them at all.
>>75520026
kill yourself
>>75521012
Cherry picking
>>75522085
Underrated
>>75521012
The fact that you seem to think that suicide is such a readily available option shows that it's more likely you with the demons taking up residence inside.
>>75519318
Not even funny. My aunt is a permissive parent and her entire family has fallen apart and nobody respects her
>>75523111
This. You're father is supposed to be the hardass, while the mother is meant to be much more caring. Its just the best overall unit, other than two authoritative parents.
>>75523424
h-how did you know
Not a day goes by where I don't wish I can kill myself
>>75522539
Welcome to Britain
>>75523530
It's alright to want to die, anon. We are all degenerates in a degenerate world. You just gotta find a reason to go on anyway.
>>75520809
>kid is cutting their wrists
>beat it out of them
>>75519318
>Authoritative
Best. Produces hard-working, well-adjusted citizens. Unfortunately it has fallen out of favor in the West.
>Authoritarian
Popular with traditional Asians and sometimes whites with military backgrounds. Produces similar results to Authoritative style, but children tend to have more emotional problems and difficulty relating to people. Often backfires, causing children to either rebel and turn degenerate, or in rare extreme cases engage in extreme antisocial behavior, like shooting up high schools or movie theaters.
>Permissive
Liberals, cucks, nu-males, etc. Most accepted "modern" parenting style, unfortunately. Complete faggot-tier; produces weak, undisciplined, whiny SJW types who demand safe spaces and recognition of made up gender identities. Contrary to the argument of its proponents that this parenting style allows for better relationships between parents and children, these children usually end up less emotionally connected to their parents and are frequently depressed and frustrated due to the lack of boundaries and challenges in their lives. These feelings worsen in adulthood as these individuals find themselves unable to cope with the day to day difficulties of life, and seldom accomplish anything because they have little motivation to attempt anything, and usually give up on most projects as soon as they encounter the slightest difficulty. They are usually inclined to blame others for their own failures due to their artificially inflated and ultimately fragile sense of self-worth. Basically, this parenting style is responsible for the success of the Bernie Sanders campaign.
>Uninvolved parent
Niggers, white trash, La Raza Mexicans, etc. Children grow up with neither discipline nor affection, usually become criminals. High rates of substance abuse. Parents were usually raised this way themselves.
>>75519318
i had authoritative parents
They did what they could.
When I was very young, I kept pestering my mother to let me play with a book of matches. Any time she would light a match I'd be trying to grab at them. She finally had enough of it one day and sent all my friends home for the day, then gave me a box of matches and put my outside on the sidewalk. Of course I ended up burning myself, but I also never asked to play with matches again.
If that qualifies as "permissive" in the sense that she allowed me to fuck up and experience a consequence, then I'd say it worked. I recall my father just laughing about it, which made me feel stupid, but also resolved to not make him laugh at me again.
>>75523707
I have no reason. No friends. No future. Nothing..
help me
>>75523847
There's always a future for everyone, my friend. Even if you're alone, you may not be forever.
>>75523847
If you sincerely ask for a reason he will give you one.
>>75523751
>Fins know no love.
>>75521012
I guess Chris Christie is nothing to brag about, but the rest of those endorsements are all pretty positive.
>>75524110
>christ cuck
>>75523847
You should kys live stream. If you've ever thought of taking your life, you are worthless and should die as to not carry on your disgusting quitter genes
>>75523801
Agreed. My dad could be a strict, apopleptic asshole but I love and respect him now more than my friends who were spoiled by their parents love their dads
>>75524297
A lesson in not being shit-tier from FUCKING AFRICA. Oh god my sides.
which one is the "feed your kid to the wolves so they get stronger" parent
>>75524244
You've got nothing anchoring you, and you're throwing away a lifeline.
>>75524244
Go to church man
You seem to have nothing to lose anyway
>>75524420
Go mollycoddle your suicidal burger friend into making a more degenerate society filled with edge lords and feels. The world needs the strong anon. Those who contemplate ending their lives are weaklings who need to be eradicated
>inb4 nigger with no dad
I'm white and had a great father
>>75524613
>>75524793
I haven't been a Christian in like 6 years
There's nothing left for me there. I used to be a devout worshipper. Then atheism really debunked most of my preconceptions of Christianity that I can't see myself taking it seriously again
I guess you're right, but it's going to be hard taking it seriously again. It's like I have to seriously delude myself into thinking God exists.
>>75520696
Lord almighty I thought you had to had to have money to be a self-loathing cuck. What you need to do is leave Brazil and go somewhere where when people whine about you having money you actually have money.
>>75524850
You will only realize that God is real once you first realize that Satan is real.
>>75519318
It's okay if the mother is permissive, but the dad has to be Authoritative or Authoritarian. Either way, the parents have to lead their kids down the right path of life and prevent degeneracy. I've seen so many kids go wrong because their parents were uninvolved.
>>75519969
That's what I had, but my father died in a car accident. My mother never dated or remarried because she didn't want to put me through any step dad hell and dad was her one and only. Mom did the best she could do, but could never replace that masculine part, even being very Christian conservative. I don't like to blame it for being the loser I became, but it sure didn't help much.
Before he died, at least taught me how to use and respect guns, fishing, and camping/hiking. Just wish he was there for the pubescent years.
>>75519318
Permissive upbringing here
It gave me some positives, critical and independant thinking mainly. But overall I suffered. Established poor habits in regards to health and organisation, becoming somewhat of a slacker. Didn't stick with any sports, limited social network. Had no support in figuring out what I wanted to do after high school other than "follow your dreams etc., we support you regardless". Ended up graduating with no idea and slacking around at home for two years before moving on.
>>75525596
Sorry man but if you're a slacker you have poor critical thinking skills even if you know you're a slacker
>>75524850
there are far more interesting religions than Christianity. I suggest taking a bunch of psychedelics and forming your own conclusions.
Psychedelics will make you believe in magic again.
The most important thing that Christianity did for the world was get a whole bunch of smart philosophers thinking about religious ideas.
>>75520026
My Mom and Dad were both authoritative and permissive in different ways. My Dad was cool letting me hang out with friends and having people over, but he was really strict me not being a faggot, my mom was the exact opposite
>>75520809
This is the reason Europe is burning and semi-fag/emo while Finland is still a country.
Finland knows what's up.
>>75525556
You need to find a way to thank your mother for all her hard work
Give her the dick
>>75519441
Opposite here
No idea how that happened
>>75526212
Well that, and preserve as much written knowledge of the ancient world as they could get their hands on from rampaging hordes of Eternal Kraut
>>75525916
I don't think slacking necessarily relates to critical thinking. Semantics aside I'm constantly trying to improve, but upbringing leaves a deep imprint. I will never give up though.
>>75526212
>man is suicidal
>rather than getting him in a church and socializing with his community you want him to take mind altering drugs
Fuck off you snake, you're either malicious or extremely foolish.
>>75519318
Authoritative Father and Permissive Mother master race reporting
>>75525556
And you didn't even get quads
>>75519318
I was raised with permissive but find my self somewhere between authoritative and authoritarian. Mainly because I don't want my kid to be a faggot.
Authoritative is best obviously
Authoritarian is just going to create rebellious idiot kids
Permissive creates stoners and socialists
Uninvolved creates pornstars
>>75527104
I've been suicidal for 6 years, funny enough right around the time I left Christianity... heh..
How the fuck are you supposed to raise a child in this day and age anyway? I'm not so worried about politics, but rather the overexposure of low quality media and entertainment.
>>75519318
>permissive mom
>authoritarian dad
It's a good combo, and would have left me extremely well off if my mom wasn't a dumb cunt who left my dad shattering our family to fucking smithereens.
God damnit.
I still turned out ok though in the end and have a solid foundation to be a great parent my children, albeit after great struggle.
If I have kids, I'm planning on an authoritative stance until they're 12 then uninvolved from there forward. If they haven't turned into decent human beings on their own by then, it's too late anyways.
>>75519318
abusive parent best parent
three b system:
beat
belittle
berate
also dont forget to rape your hellspawn so it has something funny to tell the therapist when it gets older
>>75527616
#niggerstyle
>>75527587
>solid foundation to be a great parent my children
>leaf
>>75527362
>>75524850
>>75524244
Reread the Bible. Don't do it out of religious feelings, just read the damn thing. Completely, too. Don't puss out halfway.
You'll learn a lot of things you didn't realize before. And in the end, you'll realize Christ was real all along and the Devil made you stray from your path.
Don't be a bitch, actually do it. Right now. You're willing to kill yourself, so you don't have anything to lose anyway.
Just pretend you died just now. You're dead. Buried.
Ok good now as a zombie, read the fucking Bible.
Stop reading this comment. Go. Now.
>>75520254
>>75520462
>>75520518
How the fug does a NEET get a criminal record? Don't you just sit inside all day watching anime?
>>75526562
>Eternal Kraut
You fucking idiot, the krauts helped in that. It's the arabs that destroyed all the ancient works
>>75519318
>Oh you're a gender blender tigerkin? Fine by me!
>redpilled
>>75520026
Other way around buddy, you'll never be able to control your kids unless your wife can
>>75519318
Authoritative Dad, Permissive Mom.
I turned out just fine really.
Authoritarian parents need to get lynched. Less school shooters
Authoritative Warmth obviously
>>75519318
If you're a boy - Permissive mother, Authoritative father, father has the more influential role
Opposite for girls
>>75528554
What wrong with gender blending?
