Do people on here really believe that the holocaust didn't happen, despite the hundreds of thousands of testimonies & millions of numbers disappearing from the Jewish demographics after WW2?
No one says that it never happened, just that what happened has been exaggerated or even fabricated to serve as propoganda
>>75300726
>No one says that it never happened
plenty of people say that it didn't happen. Is this your first time on /pol/?
>>75300630
When are some of you going to do your own research into "the holocaust", and learn that you have been lied to?
Also, do you enjoy being told what to think?
bump.
Jesus the majority of people on this board are stupid as fuck. I'm a nationalist and it bothers me that so many of you mongols believe that the holocaust didn't happen
>>75301277
If your argument is that a hundred countries before the 19th century expelled Jews therefore it's okay that Hitler did it too, then I won't bother arguing with you.
I've researched Holocaust denial lad. The arguments for it are poor, and there are plenty of hard counter-arguments that debunk the main holocaust denial arguments.
>>75301022
>he doesn't know /pol/ is satire
>>75301734
Nice bait you fucking spaz, your encyclopedia of memes is lacking. Kill yourself
>>75301903
Nice bait you fucking spaz, your encyclopedia of memes is lacking. Kill yourself
>>75302045
Nice copypasta you fucking spaz, your encyclopedia of memes is also lacking. Kill yourself
1. No autopsies of bodies were ever conducted by any Allied
investigators to prove gassings of camp inmates.
2. No photographic evidence was taken by Allied aerial reconnaissance of
the camps between 1942-1945 showing mass exterminations or removal of
human remains, even though such activity would have been easily spotted.
3. No German communications, which were being monitored by the British
government throughout the war due to the early cracking of German codes,
alluded to any mass extermination or extraordinary loss of life in the
camps.
4. No captured diaries or journals of high-ranking German officials
alluded to any program of extermination, nor is there any documentation
whatsoever alluding to a program of extermination. As holocaust
believers claim that the National Socialists killed eleven million
people - roughly 5 million Europeans and 6 million jews - the idea that
every single document alluding to this massive operation was destroyed
is ludicrous.
5. Neither mass graves of eleven million bodies nor the remains of the
equivalent number of bodies in layers of ash and crushed bone, have ever
been located in or around the internment camps.
6. The claims of 'human soap', 'skin lampshades', and 'shrunken heads'
were debunked and admitted as lies in mainstream American newspapers in
the 1980's.
7. The 'steam chambers' and 'electrified floors', the first alleged
methods of mass extermination, were quickly proven to be lies before the
'gas chamber' story emerged and took hold in the public consciousness.
If the gas chambers had been real, there would have been no need to lie
about 'steam chambers' and 'electrified floors' initially.
8. The Katyn Massacre, the shootings of over 20,000 Poles for which
Germans were hanged, was admitted by the Russian government in 1990 to
have been actually committed by the Bolshevik NKVD.
9. The Babi Yar massacre was a lie conjured up by the Soviet jewish
propaganda minister Ilya Ehrenburg. The story, which involved the
Germans allegedly killing 30,000 jews outside of sniper-infested Kiev in
1941 (with no eyewitnesses) and then returning to the site three years
later to dig up all the remains and destroy them using "bone-crunching
machines" (while being pursued by the Red Army, no less) was laughable
to begin with. However, there is evidence which supports mass executions
of Ukrainians at the site in the early 1930's by the NKVD (see:
Holodomor). It's probable that, like Katyn, the Babi Yar massacre was an
example of the Soviets projecting their own atrocities onto their
enemies as propaganda.
10. Official Soviet policy was to prioritize the evacuation of jews via
trains ahead of the German advance. Eastern Soviet territories such as
Kasakhstan, Uzbekhistan, and Tajikistan recorded huge numbers of jews
flooding into their lands during WWII
11.All the "information" on gas chambers came from the Soviet Union, as
the Western Allies did not capture any camps that are currently claimed
to have had any, though initially, they did falsely claim that they had
liberated "death camps" with gas chambers in them such as Dachau.
12. All German camps had supplies of Zyklon B, not just the camps which
were said to have had gas chambers. Large quantities of Zyklon B are
neither mysterious nor sinister, as it takes a relatively high amount of
the spray to kill lice.
13. A study conducted in 1999 by an Australian team of researchers using
ground-penetrating radar proved that the ground around Treblinka had
been undisturbed down to 30 meters, meaning that no human remains of one
million people were deposited there. This supports official German
documentation which shows Treblinka to be a transit camp.
Name one genocide that wasn't denied at one point.
14. Records show that German guards were severely reprimanded for so
much as striking camp inmates, let alone killing them. Karl Koch, the
commandant of the Buchenwald camp, was executed by the SS for killing
several inmates and stealing personal possessions.
15. Germany has no history of genocidal behavior, not even at its most
aggressive. Jews on the other hand, have a long and bloody history of
genocidal behavior towards their perceived enemies, recent examples
including Russian Orthodox Christians, Ukrainian kulaks, Polish
Catholics, Germans, and Palestinians. Furthermore, jews are notorious
for projecting their pathologies, hatreds, and hears onto their enemies.
16. German "admissions of guilt" were obtained through brutal torture
and coerced "confessions" by Allied agents which included genital
mutilation, mock executions, beatings, and threats directed at family
members; Rudolph Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz, was tortured so
terribly, he admitted to the location of a concentration camp that
didn't even exist.
17. If the Germans had wanted to kill jewish inmates, all they would had
to have done was simply not feed them. This is how Eisenhower
exterminated 1.5 million German POW's in the Rhineland death camps after
the war. No need for gas chambers, "bone-crushing machines",
electrified floors, or any other outlandishly proposterous claims
conjured up.
18. Rudolf Vrba, the Slovak Jew who popularized the gas chamber story,
was forced to admit under oath during the Ernst Zundel trial in 1985
that he had never witnessed an actual gassing, and that his stories were
"artistic representations" (that's jew for lies).
>>75301022
>>75300726
>No one says that it didn't happen
>Just that it was fabricated
Wow
>>75300630
Yup, some do, interesting thing is that those people are most often Scandis.
>>75300630
I like to look at real sources, not fabricated material written by those who "wished" to believe it was real
19. Numerous Holocaust memoirs, such as Herman Rosenblat's "Angel of
France" and Jerzy Kosinski's "The Painted Bird", have been proven to be
fiction. Elie Wiesel's "Night", supposedly based on his experiences at
Auschwitz, fails to mention any gas chambers and instead talks about
huge pits in the earth where jews were allegedly burned alive.
20. Deception is central to Jewish interaction with non-Jews, as well as
Jewishness in general. Extreme dishonesty in regard to their holocaust
stories is entirely in keeping with their racial character.
21. The "Holocaust" is used as a political weapon to extort billions of
dollars from Germany and other nations, to inculcate sympathy for jewry
in the face of its global criminality, and to stifle European
nationalism at a time when their homelands are being invaded by millions
of hostile racial aliens.
22. If the holocaust had actually happened, it would not require laws
drafted by powerful jewish organization to defend its veracity. No other
historical narrative is protected by the threat of heavy fines and
imprisonment. Truth doesn't fear investigation.
23. All German documents and statements made by German officials show
that the "Final Solution" meant the repatriation of jews to their own
territory in the East, not their extermination. Holocaust believers
claim the Germans spoke and wrote in coded language (e.g. "ausroten" =
extermination as opposed to its actual meaning "uprooting", i.e.
physically removing and transporting people) but there is no evidence to
support this idea.
24. During the First World War, the British government ran stories in
the newspapers about Germans allegedly gassing people to death and
'bayoneting' babies. After the war, the British government issued an
official apology for their lies and wartime propaganda. They didn't do
so after WWII due to the need to justify the foundation of Israel.
25. Jews have a history of exaggerating their suffering, such as during
the Khmelnytsky Uprising in Ukraine in the 17th Century. For centuries,
jews claimed that half a million to a million of them died during the
rebellion, when today it is generally accepted that actual jewish
casualties did not exceed ten thousand.
26. There is no reason to believe that the emaciated corpses found in
the camps by the Allied forces were anything other than victims of
starvation and typhus, which afflicted all of Germany in the final weeks
of the war due to Allied saturation bombing. Gassing people does not
cause them to lose weight, and if Jews were being immediately gassed
upon arrival at the camps, as propaganda states, where are the otherwise
healthy bodies that died from these alleged gassings?
27. The mobile gas vans allegedly used to gas jews were actually a
method of execution devised in the Soviet Union by NKVD official Isay
Berg.
28. German commanders refused to follow Hitlers' Commissar Order of 1941
(mandatory executions of Bolshevik Commisars and Soviet
intelligentsia), as they considered cold-blooded killing dishonorable
and a violation of international law. Yet people are told to believe
that these same commanders were overseeing the widespread extermination
of millions of civilians of the Eastern Front.
29. Sporadic killings of the few Jews that remained to be caught by the
Germans in the Soviet Union were typically carried out by vengeful Slavs
who had scores to settle after two decades of jewish tyranny and
violence directed at their countries and families. It was German
soldiers who routinely stepped in to stop the violence.
30. The Einsatzgruppen, who lately have been the focus of TV shows,
movies, and books on account of the death of the gas chamber narrative,
were German troops whose job it was to secure the rear lines, which were
frequent targets of terrorist activity by Soviet partisans. There is no
reason to believe they were shooting thousands of millions of people as
is routinely claimed.
31. There is no reason to feel sympathy for those jews who did end up
dying during WWII, as they were an invasive, alien people who had
colonized and subverted European nations to the detriment of Europeans.
When it was made clear that jews were no longer welcome in Europe, they
should have left. Whatever violence was actually visited upon jews
during that conflict was the result of their own behavior.
>>75301671
So you have... Done your research?
>>75302266
Not very good with quotes, are ya? fucking faggot
Why would something that really happened require a law that forces people to agree that it really happened?
That alone screams post-war propaganda.
>>75302482
The jews dont want people to question it, therefore they made it illegal, and they will make it illegal in sweden too, it will happen.
>>75300630
>millions of numbers disappearing from the Jewish demographics after WW2?
it's actually very hard to find independent statistics that support that
I think it's most likely an illusion brought about by the number of jews who changed their names and wouldn't identify as being jewish
I have been to one of the camps and was thoroughly unconvinced by what I saw
it's an old argument, but wether or not the nazi's tried to I don't think the camps could have coped logistically with killing 6 million people
I suspect the "gas chamber and burnt bodies" is just a cover to explain why 6 million bodies could not be found after the war
probably closer to the truth is that the nazi's over-estimated the numbers to please hitler, and that most of the deaths were due to undernourishment and attrition; like the russian POW camps
>>75300630
Define the holocaust.
A systematic genocide program that murdered eleven million people (6 million Jews, 5 million other)? Murdered via a variety of contraptions such as fake-out shower/gas chambers, gas vans, lethal masturbation machines, and holocosters? Absolute bullshit with no supporting evidence beyond conflicting victim testimony and confessions achieved via torture and duress.
A population relocation program, much like those utilized by the allies during the war, used to relocated dissidents and high risk people to where they couldn't harm the war effort? Where a few hundred thousand died as the result of starvation and the typhus epidemic that was sweeping Europe and the total collapse of German supply lines due to massive allied bombing of German infrastructure? That is a far more believable scenario.
>>75301359
Cant really tell if youre baiting or not..
Get out, youre just making this world even shittier. Get out you devil worshipper
>>75302302
Good image
>>75303440
It was a bait lad.
Did it as an attempt to force some decent arguments out of people rather than people constantly memeing "but muh 6 gorillion"
>>75303625
Thank god it was a bait.
I agree that this 6 gorillion meme is too much.
And what do you think about the arguments above?
Wasn't the Soviet Union run from the start by Jews?
>>75303987
DELETE THIS!
>>75303033
This. They over did it with the comic book villain shit.
>>75303987
Yes, it was. I wouldl like you to give you some sources but i really have to go now.
Google bolshevik
>>75301359
This Briton is trying to defend his history.
>>75300630
Do people really believe Noah's ark didn't happen, despite hundreds of thousands of testimonies & millions of numbers disappearing from all the species on earth after the flooding?
>>75300630
>disappearing Jews
The population went from about 15.8 million in the 30's to about 15.3 million in the 40's.
Also, roughly 500,000 Soviet Jews died in the war.
The Holocaust is a hoax.
>>75305334
Do you have a source?
>>75302045
>Literally lowering to elementary shool level
>>75302045
>Nice bait you fucking spaz, your encyclopedia of memes is lacking. Kill yourself
>>75304239
Fucking this. Based Swede
>>75301671
go on then.
>>75301671
What a sneaky way to shift the burden of proof.
>>75302376
great contribution ahmed
>>75305765
What, word of mouth isn't proof? Then what concrete evidence is there to prove the Saturday-morning-cartoon bullshit that the Germans get accused of?
>>75304239
BASED, Just BASED
>>75307204
Honestly I don't know who to believe at this point.
>>75300630
The funny thing is those saying holocaust didn't happen are often nazis.
>>75302160
/thread
beautiful pasta swedebro,
>>75304239
Thank you based Swede
>>75307204
Every lawyer knows that witnesses are the worst kind of evidence. People make shit up unintentionally
>>75308495
The point is when you realize there is no evidence present for the existence of gaschambers, you get some followup thoughts.
>How is a lie of this extent possible? The jews must be really powerful
>If Hitler wasnt an evil man just gassing alot of people, what was he on about?
And then you rewatch everything you ever watched and realized the nazis weren't the bad guys
I remember in high school we were learning about WWII and I asked the teacher why they would gas and burn people to kill them instead of just locking them up and letting them die. It seemed to me incredibly insufficient.
Well, I was sent to the principal's office and my parents were called in. My parents and the principal asked me where I was getting my "political views". I told them I had none, I played guitar and video games, I didn't know who the vice president was. It was the most surreal experience of my life.
>>75310161
>I was sent to the principal's office
What year was this?
>>75309322
I see your point.
However Nazis aren't bad guys because Jew's extermination, they are because they lost the war, and the winners wrote history.
just asking lads, no memes
what will you achieve if you prove that the numbers were exaggerated?
>>75308495
>I can't prove the narrative, so I'll just attack the character of anyone who disagrees with it.
>>75311203
We'll stop sending reparations to Israel.
READ MONKEY
>>75311097
>nazis aren't bad guys
does that mean that the soldiers who fought for your country are the bad guys? germany invaded other countries europe
>>75311568
That's not what he said, read it again.
>>75311097
That's the entire point.
Hitler was right, but he lost so the jews can say whatever they want about him. Just make up a story emotional enough that opposing it is socially, politically and academically unacceptable. That way your lack of evidence will never be a problem.
Just use memes and facts that have no credible proof behind them like the rest of the stormfags.
>but muh cool armani nazi uniforms and haircuts
>>75302302
>mfw people think auschwitz was the only KZ just because it had the meme liner on the gate
>>75300630
>millions of jews disappearing
? When ?
>>75306943
>>75300630
>Do people on here really believe that the holocaust didn't happen
No, that's forbidden at /pol/.
>>75315425
Racism is definitely allowed on /pol/
>>75315425
>cited from the ADL
wew
>>75315737
>Racism is definitely allowed on /pol/
No, it's not. Global rule 3. There is barely any racism here anyway.
>>75316565
>There is barely any racism here
Thank you. I needed that laugh.
>>75316755
And there isn't, except if you consider racist facts (blacks commit more crime) or racist jokes (poo in loo) racism.
>>75317050
All right, I suppose so.
>>75302160
>>75302182
>>75302261
>>75302309
>>75302352
guess that wraps this shit up then
>>75317449
Not exactly. I will need more in order to red pill family members and such.
we spent more time learning about the 6 gorillian in history class than we did on the entirety of WW1
shit is fucked in modern education
