https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrGRP2mu0GA
why atheism, which encourage people to workship science, can be dangerous
>>75279500
This is important
>>75279500
>Worshipping scence is dangerous goys!
>>75280864
Not An Argument: The Argument of the Inept
good topic
>>75280864
i'm agnostic, i just mean that if you dont take it without a grain of salt can be dangerous, especialy about governement funding reasearch(global warming)
>>75279500
Wasn't he arrested?
Checking out.
Seems neat.
>>75279500
science is the modern religion
stef is an living, breatinhg, throbbing argument
>>75279500
Being conservative has become synonymous to being retarded.
>>75279500
This guy... This guy right here
>worship science
Do you retards not know what science is? It's not some crazy conspiracy or even a belief system. It is simply a method through which we can test and confirm/disprove hypotheses through observation and empirical evidence. That is far preferable to "muh tradition" and "muh religion"
Kill yourselves.
>>75283335
stop spamming everyone, its annoying to read a thread when you are late to join
>>75283335
>Tell someone his post is not an argument
>someone else tells me that doing so is not an argument
No it's not an argument. Why would you give a real argument to someone who is not giving you a real argument? I was just pointing it out.
>>75284076
Not. An. Argument.
>>75279500
This is easily the second stupidest molyjew video i've ever not watched. And there are a lot I haven't watched, so that's saying something.
Yes: You shouldn't just trust a scientific headline.
"Atheism" as in the new atheist movement (aka sam harris and richard dawkins), encourages people to use logic reason and evidence (aka science) to make deductions about their world.
Steph proves once again that he's a total idiot and is simply conflating communism with athiesm AGAIN.
And i didn't even watch it.
Your daily reminder that Stefbots are literally cultists who would sooner commit suicide than live without their Dear Leader.
>>75284029
>It is simply a method through which we can test and confirm/disprove hypotheses through observation and empirical evidence.
PROVE
>That is far preferable to "muh tradition" and "muh religion"
IT
>>75284029
i mean that the current result of science can be falsified, not that the methodology of science is wrong
and when i mean workship science, i mean workshiping the result of research that call themselve science
>>75284029
>implying most scientists do not corrupt their data to receive more money from positive results for their bosses
>>75284029
climate change
>science
kill your self
Why and when did this guy get famous?
>>75284815
Maybe people agree with his ideas?
>>75284815
Stefan Molyneux is the greatest philosopher of our time and has the world's largest philosophy show on the Internet.
>>75285248
Not an argument
>>75280864
Worshipping anything is dangerous.
>>75280864
Stefan Molyneux: "Fuck physics, make iPhones."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBNzJISlxl0
>>75285328
Not an argument
>>75285598
i want these renditions to fuck
>>75283525
I choked on my food good God I love you anon
>>75285847
We cucked Ben Garrison so hard.
>>75279500
https://youtu.be/VOKCzsAsL3I
>>75285847
>>75285730
The memes are uniting!
>>75284325
They have a hero, humans tend to flock to those figures to help understand both the world and those on it. It's understandable, the world is extremely complex and confusing, the problem is that if you don't put those figures beyond doubt, how could you trust what they say or their intentions? That is obviously very dangerous, putting your hopes on an individual, because every individual is fallible.
The worst thing about learning about truth of human nature is how lonely you feel knowing that in truth you can never trust on someone with heart and soul.
>>75279500
science "replacing" religion is always complete fucking lunacy and degeneracy.
religion is not a science club.
>>75279500
Stefan the Sophist
Stefan is wrong here, and this where you see he is nothing more than an ideologue. Science is the most effective tool humans have. Stef hates science because of le tax is theft meme. He is willing throw away 200 years of technology because he thinks the state doesn't have right to take away your money.
>>75286413
>molycore is rising
This is excellent news
>>75286997
you didnt see the video
>>75287428
I've seen enough Molyneux to know. He constantly rants about how understanding more about the Universe is bollocks and that that making stupid shit for normies to consume is more important, not realizing that humanity is teetering on the edge of being locked on this planet forever unless we get the fuck out of here in the next 200 years. AnCap won't mean much if it can't get off this planet.
>>75287697
>not realizing that humanity is teetering on the edge of being locked on this planet forever unless we get the fuck out of here in the next 200 years
What?
>>75287697
>I've seen enough Molyneux to know. bla bla
good it mean that any argument that you could give mean nothing against that video
>>75287934
If Molyneux is arguing against public founding the obvious reason why he's wrong is because private founding only does so with profit in mind, things which they can not profit, say something they can't patent, they won't found it. That is ALREADY true, we depend on public founding to make crazy ideas come true.
>>75287697
>I've seen enough Molyneux to know.
No you haven't obviously.
That's like saying that you have watched enough video's on particle physics to be considered an expert on the subject of particle physics
Your manking an "argument" based on faith. Which is basically religion renamed.
>>75287922
Of course *you* wouldn't understand, you're a Brazillian. You don't live in the West. Society is already decaying. Like, super fucking fast. This kind of decay and ignorance hasn't been seen since the glorious Mycenians decayed into little more than illiterate boat niggers. Now its happening again. Only this time, if we allow ourselves to even stop producing and finding more fuel for a year, we're fucked. Billions of people depend on oil for agriculture. And if we even fall back to Roman levels of civilization, we're still fucked because we've already used most of the easily accessable oil on the planet. The rest is locked under the sea or the artic, where you require oil to buld machines that can harvest the oil in the first place.
>>75287934
You should worship science. Not because good, but its the only thing we have left. If we give up now, as I explained, we're doomed. And wehat can MNolyneux offer you, seriously? Free Market capitalism isn't fair or just. Its doesn't reward hard working intelligent people. It rewards niggers and prostitutes like Molyneux and Pewdiepie who say and say do the stupidest things for click bait, which is why Molyneux supports it. As long as you have a large audience for dat ad money and dem donations, it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong.
>>75288632
Molyneux is. His entire hypothesis is based on UPB, which is proven wrong every time a person take a bite out of a pice of chicken. Sometimes, it is preferable to steal from something else. And this isn't morally wrong because PROPERTY RIGHTS DON'T EXIST. Therefore, there is literally no reason to consider what he says.
>>75285553
Lol that clip
>Newton you faggot, stop fucking around with planetary motion and research something useful that people want, like an elixir of life!
>t. Stefan Molyneux c. 1660
>>75288926
>PROPERTY RIGHTS DON'T EXIST
Wew, lad.
>>75288397
the problem with public research is that the governement bias research that incrase their narrative (leftist governement give leftist result, right wing governement give right wing result)
>muh dont trust science because I have to pander to my conservashit/alt-right audience for dem shekels
>don't worry about the environment or new energy sources (because that shit requires public funding which is evil because it WANTS ME SHOT), it's all a hoax by the science kabal
>>75289097
>rights
>exist
>>75288762
i wont workship the current result of science because they are most likly funded by leftist organisation
if we were before 1905 you would have asked me to workship that the aether existed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether
>>75289097
They don't. If they did, Carnivores wouldn't exist. Property right are *enforced*, like all rights, by humans. Which is why you have the second amendment, at least in theory. In reality, there's nothing stopping anyone from stealing your shit, other than the fact others humans give a shit. If they didn't, then property rights don't exist.
Think about it this way. Molyneux is in love with UPB. But when a man goes out and catches his game, and he eats the flesh that animal carefully nurtured and labored on, Molyneux takes no issue. And the reason he doesn't is because its not human. He doesn't consider it to have full appropriation of its body. But to the Universe or nature, that isn't human or animal. Its detached, so it considers you going out and killing another person and eating them to be no different. Which molyneux would certainly take issue with. He's detatched from reality.
>>75279500
1. Correlation implies causation, especially those that confirm my hypothesis.
2. Don't trust scientists. They are owned by the State and you know it: the State touches it, it sucks.
3. However, when I'm citing studies to appear more credible, trust the scientists I'm citing. That and the random biased think tanks I follow.
>>75279500
>less than 5k views on the video
Does Molyjew have shills in Brussels now too?
>>75289302
where is your address then
>>75279500
4. Them crowdfunded science is more credible because it does not rely on the State. It relies on what people actually want and find useful.
>Ignores virtually all this type of funding only exists because people want to see their preconceived views supported by science. They are literally paying for a study.
>>75289790
>>75289790
>the flesh that animal carefully nurtured and labored on
source? did the animal tell you this
>>75291392
>source
Science.
>>75279500
Ain't giving views to this idiot anymore. He claims theories as facts with neither evidence nor contradictory.
He's a narcissistic self entitled cult leader, vomiting the "burden of proof" on anyone but himself.
>>75291850
scientist use animals for experiments all the time. your argument is invalid
>>75291932
>not an argument, the post
Best of luck with future arguments, friend.
>why atheism, which encourage people to workship science, can be dangerous
This isn't true. Atheism doesn't innately encourage anything. Now, the "new atheist" movement is shit and encourages the "fucking love of science." Richard Dawkins followers are worse than religious-types. However, they're not the only strain of atheism.
The problem is not atheism itself, it's just this specific movement that's dominated atheism. Their mistake is they think that science should replace religion. This is wrong. A worship of science should not follow atheism, art/culture should. You're guys' beloved Nietzsche says the same thing. As does Hume, Schopenhauer and Mill.
>tl;dr fedora atheism is cancer, noble atheism is the righteous path
>>75293589
>You're
lol
>>75279500
Every single day, every time Molymeme makes a new alt-right video, a thread on /pol/!
leftists love science, until scientific racism comes along
>>75293589
Nietzsche thought the masses needed religion. He thought widespread secularism would be destructive, because most people can't handle themselves, they'd self-destruct and/or be complacent. He foresaw "nihilism" for the masses with the removal of religion.
And he was right.
>>75293793
Not
>>75293793
if you dislike it, why are you bumping in this thread?
>>75293793
Every single day I see your flag I am crying louder and louder :(
when will i escape this hell of a country ;_;
>>75293969
No. In Twilight of the Idols he points out how religion isn't enough. How it fundamentally doesn't work for humanity because its ideals are unattainable and should therefore be gotten rid of.
He goes onto say that nihilism will ensue from religion's ousting and that this state is insecure. It follows from this that we need a replacement for religion to defend ourselves from the cancerous void of nihilism, i.e. culture and art.
>>75295260
He was clear he wasn't writing that for the masses, that the masses weren't capable of thriving without religion
>>75285598
Is that real? I didn't know Ben even knew about Stephan but It looks unedited.
>>75295260
His argument against religion and Christianity more specifically was that it placed artificial bounds and "guilt" on what would've otherwise been history-making men.
But Nietzsche never wrote his books for the blockhead at Walmart to say "I'm der ubermensch, look at my fedora, now I need my hotpockets to cope with the stress of life."
He'd think that is ludicrous, and that most of the weak "herd" need herd religion to deal. His revulsion came toward the strong adhering to this herd morality, in which the result would be as he put it "everyone an invalid or an invalid's attendant."
>>75284029
And let me guess. You actually believe that scientists which are only given grants in attempts to prove something, are 100% honest 100% of the time and don't mess with their shit?
I bet you also believe neo-darwinian theory is scientific fact and not about to be completely BTFO.
>>75279500
>he Corruption of Science
so is this faggot pretending to be a scientist now?
>>75296506
>He'd think that is ludicrous, and that most of the weak "herd" need herd religion to deal. His revulsion came toward the strong adhering to this herd morality, in which the result would be as he put it "everyone an invalid or an invalid's attendant."
Which is essentially what you have with all of these Christcuck losers wanting women's rights and privileges (men being an invalid's attendant, since women only care about equality of outcome, NOT equality), refugees (more invalid attendant), and Popes kissing niggers feet (okay, maybe not invalid attendant as much as foot fetish homosexual interracial porn).
>>75296989
It's true.
Here is an older article before the Government started mass censoring the Internet.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_corruption_of_science.html
>>75280864
Scientism is deadly.
>>75295174
What? How the fuck did you get into our country? I thought we got rid of you all in WW2.
>>75297871
>Go to the about section to get an idea of what the website is about
>"The right to exist and the survival of the State of Israel are of great importance to us."
lmao
>>75298338
As it should be. Ever heard of the 144,000? We live in the age of information and nearly everyone is so massively ignorant of fucking everything.
Feels bad Senpai.
>>75279500
Kinda reminded me of Kierkegaard's some articles. Muslims and Jews are bigger threats non the less
>>75279500
>Science is perfect and uncorruptable
Nobody who actually does science has ever said that. That sounds like the IFLScience/Bill Nye/Neil Degrass Tyson crowd, who are idiots.
Science denyers are retards
>>75299669
fedora tipping atheist and liberal believe it through
>>75279500
there is a lot of global corruption into what kinds of research governments decide to fund
>>75299883
Both sides have their science deniers, fanatics, and cherrypickers. It's not a left/right issue that you can just sit there and say "hurr durr leftists amirite?"
>>75300216
By and large I've found atheists to believe in the science as similarly and as fervently as christians believe in god. The more atheists I'm exposed to, the less I trust them and the more I believe they are wrong.
For reference, I'm an agnostic theist.
>>75299800
racial equalism is "science"
more than 50% of the population think thats science, in the whole europe its like that
thats the science
>>75298715
MOLYNEUX IS A DEMON!
>>75301001
The chocolatier makes a great point for all the cucks in this thread whining about "muh incorruptable science".
>>75300216
there are also paid shill scientist
>>75301293
yes and they workship that "science"
these science workshiper in this thread allways forgot what is "science" for the majority
does molyneux know about his following on /pol/?
>>75301386
In the biological world we call them "biostitutes." If you look at any discipline there are people who are willing to sell out for money. That's why you have to look at all the evidence and the methods used to get there to see if what someone is saying make sense, which requires a degree of scientific literacy that most don't have.
That's why metastudies and repetition are important. In a metastudy, you compile all the current literature and then run them through a statistical ringer to make sure they're accurate. Repetition insures that fakes are caught. Science is a self-correcting system when everything works right, but there's a lot of other outside factors that you have to deal with. It isn't perfect, but it's the best way to deal with a problem or question.
I can give you a real life example of scientific chicanery. Take the Briggs-Myers test. Multiple studies have been done testing the efficacy of the test and have found it lacking, yet it's still in the mind of the public as the methodology seems scientific. Businesses use it for promotions and hiring and people pridefully parrot their type (look at the threads that pop up on /pol/ from time to time). Part of the reason it's so prevalent? It's a huge cash cow for the Myers & Briggs Institute and the Center for Applications of Psychological Type that promotes it, sells the tests, certifies people in administering the test, and then props it up with research from the seemingly scientific journal called the "Journal of Psychological Type." Who edits and puts out the journal? The Center for Application of Psychological Type and the Myers and Briggs Institute.
>>75301507
Belgian bro, it's not workship, its worship, without the k.
For that great piece of advice, you should send me some of that fantastic beer you guys have. No stouts or porters though, I don't have a palate for them.
>>75303394
these one you need to go directly to the church
they are the one who produce it
>>75303199
I think everyone with some critical thinking ability understands this. However, you should never assume that any significant percentage of a population is capable of critical thinking.
What society has done, and atheists in particular, is to treat science like a religion. Not just well researched, respectable, peer reviewed science, but also all the bunk pseudo-science that comes about. Scientists are now treated like celebrities and priests - when science says something is so, it is so. Other scientists may debate the findings of another scientist, but no common man can ever do so. That's the point that he makes in the video. As you can see by looking at this thread, it's not a idea that is widely tolerated anymore.
>>75284325
i think his views are legitimate, but the way he promotes antagonizing your "statist" friends fucking annoys me.
most people don't even know what being a statist is, can't you just explain to them what the problem is instead?
>>75300739
people become atheist because they see theism iw wrong
and that the end the atheist became agnostic due that there is too many corruption and a lack of technology and knowleadge to be sure about everything
>>75289790
>sentient beings are no more important than non-sentient beings
It must be weird to be that degenerate and atheistic.
>>75289114
That is obviously true, but we still depend on it to make long researches. Better some than none.
>>75279500
>why atheism, which encourage people to workship science, can be dangerous
Not an argument.
>>75304515
you call that a nihilist atheist
>>75304670
your country is the argument sweden
>>75279500
Science, mainly cutting edge physics, is the closest man has yet come to figuring out god.
On the other hand, modern day-academia is a cesspit of judeo-marxism. "Higher learning" is the veritable cancer that's killing mankind, while in it's shadow science bravely marches on.
Gas the liberal arts. Gas STEM. Gas them all and give gas until only starry-eyed physicists remain. Maybe retain a few chosen maths fags to act as the liberal arts of tomorrow.
>>75304305
> Scientists are now treated like celebrities and priests - when science says something is so, it is so. Other scientists may debate the findings of another scientist, but no common man can ever do so.
I'm all for science being questioned, and sometimes citizen scientists make really important discoveries and bring something to the table, but most of the time I just see parroting of viewpoints of other people who have an agenda, with zero critical thinking put into an argument.
>>75304670
>>75304806
Sweden believes in the science that all races are equal.
>inb4 "is he based?" Guy
>>75302907
He's the one shilling numbnuts
>>75305130
> Gas STEM
But, then, who would build my rockets and get me to Mars? HOW AM I GOING TO BE A PRIMARCH IN GOD EMPEROR TRUMPS EMPERIUM OF MAN WITHOUT THE STEM FIELDS TO BUILD MUH BATTLESHITS!?
>>75305248
I THINK you're agreeing with me, but I can't tell...
>>75296334
>real
it was done "on commission", Stefo paid Ben to draw it as a vanity piece, to give himself the aura of political relevance.
>>75279500
I was just watching this.
I'm a Biochem guy and everything they're talking about resonated with me.
>>75279500
Stop promoting this jewish supremacist here you piece of shit faggot.
Scientists can lie but science doesn't.
>>75305629
I agree with you with a caveat, the Dunning–Kruger effect is real and widespread.
>>75305629
>But, then, who would build my rockets and get me to Mars?
The free market. And if your rockets crash and burn, the market will adjust and tighten quality control accordingly.
Trump is a necessary meme and battleshits an unnecessary and thankfully skipped one in an age where raining a diarrhoea of thermonuclear warheads out a puckering tear in the very fabric of the universe is not fiction but fact requiring funding.
>>75305725
Not an argument.
>>75305862
good luck sort the lie from actual science when you want to worship it
>>75284098
Not an argument
What does /pol/ think of based Bill Whittle?
Is he redpilled?
>>75306007
Bu... Bu... But, MY EXTERMINATUS!!!!
>>75279500
>>75279500
The man has been progressively losing his mind and you are all just affirming his delusions. When he stops going there, he will be well
>>75306974
Showy yet boring. Pop goes the array and only your distant ancestors will see a flickering light in the night sky signifying those that dared oppose the triumphant goosestep of the children of Holy Terra.
>>75279500
This shit has been true since at least the Vienna Circle.
Anyone who hasn't realized this either is a scientism worshipper or else has never met one.
>>75307450
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