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Some friends and I are developing a small movement, we hope it becomes something bigger. They are great, I have learned a lot about Mexico and why it is why how it is. I, in the other hand, have "developed" many ideas and I am actually very good at puting them in very simple terms. This is what I have done so far:
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Have you developed a fpbp?
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1. The Nation

Fascism/National Socialism is about the responsibility of the individual in its society, and the society giving back to the individual.
Its spirit is in both Nature and Society. This is the natural way of organizing a society, as it takes its ideology from the ideal society and applies them in a natural (realistic, proven and practical) framework.
Pride in the Nation, in your community, family and in oneself
Love in the Nation, in your community, family and in oneself
The Fascist Spirit holds meritocracy, hierarchy, pragmatism and tradition above all else:

Meritocracy

In order to have a functioning meritocratic system the Nation, trough the State, must ensure that everybody is equal in their opportunities. If not then we would have a society which frowns upon the unfortunate and tells to themselves that they deserve and that is not true, we humans can only control what happens to us to a certain extent, that's our reality as animals and cannot (and must not) be eliminated, but society can help the unfortunate by giving them opportunities to succeed if they want to. Only then we can say that everybody deserves what they have.
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Hierarchy

Leadership and power must he held by the strongest and the best. Once a fair meritocratic society is installed a hierarchy will naturally form. Instead of stopping elites from forming the Nation must embrace them and State and Society must only regulate it's grow and power so they do not become oppressive. For one to be an Elite one must not only exceed in it's field, but to be a great individual. Anyone else must not be allowed to grow until they learn how to be

The Elites

As an incentive to become a great person, everyone from an elite will be given not a special treatment by the State, but a special treatment by the Nation and Society. Fame, glory, monuments to celebrate not only them, but everything they represent. It will be known that Society benefits from the existence of Elites and society will be grateful

Falling from grace

Humans are not perfect, we must never believe that. Once in a while an Elite will let greed, selfishness and anger control him.

Tradition

[open: Why is tradition important? What to do in a society without traditions]
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The State

The State is the artificial frame that organizes the Nation. It is made out of the laws and administrative bodies that guide the Nation's power to the Nation's interests.

Economics

The State must allow free enterprise. It must allow individual must keep the fruits of their production as long as they were earned in a moral and legal(tool used to ensure the protection of morality) manner to encourage the individual to work by themselves.

"It is impossible to believe, to have a society in which there is any real work going on unless people can get the reward for their effort. […] And at the same time we believe you got to have social justice. You cannot have people who are exploiting and squeezing little helpless people economically. And this is where I get the trouble with the conservatives because most of today's conservatives I've discovered are reactionaries. They are real anxious to hold onto their money, They don't care how they have to figure it out, they just want those money bags, and they come up with any kind of rationale to keep it"

-George Lincoln Rockwell

Regulations

If we are to compare the State and the Nation to a family; the Nation would be the mother; creator of life, and the State would be the paternal figure, the head of the National Family. [expand]

Ascending into Power

Leadership must be for the best not the most popular.

The Society

[open]

The individual

[open and in construction: What virtues does the individual have, and what is his goal in life?]
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Unsorted ideas

I should only eat meat if I or someone close to me hunted and killed it (should this practice be enforced by promoting sustainable hunting and fishing?).
Respect to animals who are not our equals, but still deserve respect and understanding for being fellow living creatures who are trying to survive.
We must look upon nature as a guide. Not being a cancer.
Everybody must be an artist (Will this help people to appreciate the human form, nature and their environment?)
City planning is important. It must be functional and beautiful. A wonder of art and design.
All "american" culture (or lack of) must be purged out of the Nation, and we must develop and feel pride for your own culture
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>>75277578

If you want fpbp your post actually has to be good. Stop being an insufferable faggot.
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>>75277578
We are still in a very early stage. In theory we should have a Family Planning Benefit Program as a way to control the population and not letting some elements of society go out of control
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I want to believe...
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>>75278774
War that does not concern the entire Nation but only the interest of a few should never we stared. War is a last resource but one must be never afraid to use it because of international backlash
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>>75277487
Hail Hydra
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> Some friends and I are developing a small movement, we hope it becomes something bigger.
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What does anon think of social depression
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>>75279590
>social depression
I do not know exactly on what kind you are referring, but he one I am thinking of comes mostly from material goods and how they have substituted virtues. This is later externalized by the society as a social decay. Treatment:
>Make virtues sexy again
>Teach the wonders a simple life can give you
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>>75277487
>>75277588
>>75277609
>>75277663
>>75277719
You're either a 12 year old child or mentally at the level of one.
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>>75280074
That webm. made me laugh.
If there is a reason why I do not completely dislike kids is because of ho they think. One can say that it's just immature ideas made by an untrained mind, but what I see are the purest ideas possible. Romanticism is not a mistake
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>75280074
My fine anon has started with Jewish trickery
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>>75280508
>but what I see are the purest ideas possible
Even the most noble and beautiful idea is utterly useless when it's based on idealistic principles and not the real world, because it's simply not achievable. Yeah, romanticism is great if you're an artist or a writer, but not if you're a politician (or want to be one).
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>>75277487
Ayyy good luck getting anyone in here to give a fuck.

People here are either to dumb to see the political flaws or somewhere else
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>>75280508
mexican nationalism is a joke, it failed before and it's still failing today
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>>75281447
Anon has a point there
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Have you shown your project to your school teacher yet?
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>>75281447
There are two simple words to get anyone here to do what you want
>Tierra
>Libertad
>>75281041
Idealism is important for every movement. If you take no risks then you will find yourself doing nothing with your life
>I did nothing with my existence, but gee good thing I never did anything hard to do. Thank God I did not even bothered.

Mine are just ideas of an ideal society and I am open for discussion. The practical aspects will be seen later and of course I will adapt myself to reality
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>>75277588
Reading, pleasantly surprised so far.
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>>75277487
WE WUZ ARYANS N SHIT
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The Mexican Gold Shirts did it, so it is technically possible.
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>>75277578
>>75277927
Clever girl.
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>>75282708
Thank you, be as awful as possible when criticizing, it should become a Mexico-proof ideology. And add ideas if you want to
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>>75283088
My idea is to develop the movement in secrecy as much as possible. We really do not need a lot of followers to appeal to people to join, what is really necessary is presence, to come out with a boom so they never forget you, once that's achieve it's only a matter of time for them to start thinking
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>>75281552
>mexican nationalism is a joke, it failed before and it's still failing today
Well its certainly working in america
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"A Fascist government is the perfect solution to Mexico's problems today."
- Me
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Taking into consideration that Mexico will never become a developed country even though we have the resources to get there, it's a shame that our government can't even administrate its income before turning it into something utterly shameful. Fascism is the way to go when it comes to establishing order. At least in the short term.
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>>75283800
Do you realize that dogos like that are stealing tho good American k9's jobs because they ask for less and do a good enough job? But this is a symptom of a capitalist society who sees only for profit and not for the good american dogos. This is why I would build a wall to stop the hordes of savage dogos
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What I am trying to do has two sides:
>Mexico can work wonderfully as a "normal" society, all it needs is to get rid of some... less than desirable elements of society.
But
>The whole world is in moral decay. The last solution can only work in a short term. A ideological revolution is needed as soon as things here allow it
>>75281721
Thank you for reminding me; My former TOK teacher used to say "A good politician must also be a good philosopher"
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>>75283110
I'm not awake enough to give too much of a reply, with some mental people atm, however; traditionalism might be argued with people being a result of their habits, which we should respect (only if they are beneficial and healthy), and changes to the old ways should be respectful to people's way of life.
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>>75284706
Shit, I forgot that Norway is in the other side of the world. So far I am interested in traditionalism because it keeps the culture and national identity alive. It is usually something that has being proved to work (but this opens the possibility of becoming closed minded and refusing to evolve). Maybe a society whiling to change and always innovating but with a love for the past, nature and your people is the answer, this way the society can evolve but may never loose their central ideas that gives them their national identity
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>>75284690
Are you being ironic too? Because I was. I don't wanna have to point out that I was joking, because I agree with everything you've just said. I just thought it was a funny pupper.
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>>75285136
Of course I am, I was misspelling "dog" so I and the argument appears more ridiculous. but it has some half-truths in it
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>>75285135
Fucking saved btw, would post to a group om Facebook, but currently banned.
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>>75286107
>but currently banned.
kek
Share it all you want, ideas are not a propety
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>nacionalismo mexicano

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

Al mexicano promedio le vale verga la política, en fin, PAN o PRI nos chinga igual. Y eso sin contar la corrupción masiva en todos los niveles de gobierno federal y estatal, los cárteles, etc... tú pretiendes "unir" al país como Adolf Hitler? Ni en cien años, carnal...sólo mira cómo nos dejó la Revolución
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>>75287257
No pierdes nada quedándote ahí sentado y haciendo nada. Así que sigue haciendo eso, no te entrometas y disfruta el show
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