Is mkultra just conspiracy theory bullshit or did the government really do mind control?
>>75267376
Extensive Congressional hearings proves it's 100% real.
I'm interested to hear what your shill sockpuppet on your proxy says though.
The government admitted to it. It makes people uncomfortable so its still discounted as a conspiracy theory.
>>75267376
It's not conspiracy. They tried to controla minds, no sure if they ever reached they goal.
Most of documents were destroyed though.
Unabomber, DST, Psycho drugs and all
>>75267376
Mind control is a stretch.
Anyway the way human mind process information is an interesting thing.
>>75267376
Real deal. I imagine some of the stuff they got down on makes Guantanamo look like a charming beach vacation.
>>75269386
If it is pre-planned and carried out by several people in secret it is a conspiracy.
What did you think conspiracy meant?
>>75269470
they had a list of goals they wanted to achieve and they met some of them. you can look the wikipedia page. if the only thing you count as mind control is being able to control someone with an xbox controller then no they didn't achieve that
>>75267376
No my dad was a physician with the Navy during Vietnam and they experimented on people with LSD at his base. It was real.
>>75267376
>did the government really do mind control?
They researched it.
We'll never know if they achieved it, will we? We'd just remember things differently every now and again, and pass it off as poor memory.
I think it's real and everyone in this thread was turned into a tin foil idiot
>>75267376
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=berenstein+bears
why don't you tell me
>>75269618
It's not particularly different that advertisement research for example, only with a military budget.
Seriously the lenghts that users on this forum go to believe in crazed conspiracies is insane.
>>75269770
They found that controlling specific sectors of society, ie: education and media are far more effective at long term population control than LSD and beatings.
In other words they went with the carrot rather than the stick.
>>75269613
You are correct. Conspiracy =/= conspiracy theory. Once its proven, its no longer a theory. People get that confused easily I think.1
>>75269892
And is shown in today's media
>>75269770
Nah, that's just how memory works. Every time a memory is recalled it is altered, every time it comes up in our consciousness it moves further from how it actually happened.
>>75269856
mind-wiping people, torturing citizens, and putting LSD in the water supply isn't the same as advertisement research. why does an italian think he knows anything about mk ultra, btw?
It's conditioning via culture. Why do you think it's wrong to walk up to a person on the street and murder them? Cultural conditioning.
>>75267376
It's real.
If you take a hardcore amount of acid all the time for 6 months, it's going to fuck your brain up. It's not a drug that should be taken every day.
>>75267376
The government really did mind control using drugs, hypnosis, pain, and multiple personalities. No-one knows exactly how far they got, or if they even stopped (they probably didn't,) but the madmen actually did it.
>>75270139
You're delusional, that's what you get from staring a monitor all day. Back in the day that stuff didn't happen.
>>75270169
Because if everyone went out and killed someone in the streets we'd all die low IQ scum
We are humans so if you want to act like a great ape, stop using this computer right now
Cultural conditioning just means common sense of human beings.
>>75270368
You're as good at shilling as you are at pulling your weight in alliances.
>>75270139
Eh, it could be worse. Could have been 6 months of BZ.
2 confirmed BZ experience reports.
>https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=60851
>https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=93237
>>75270521
That's your conditioning speaking. You think there is logic to your actions but it's all an illusion of the mind forced onto you every single day since birth.
A better question would be, how and why were the test subjects chosen?
>>75270803
they first performed tests on volunteer cia agents. later, an example of one operation they did that is publicly known now was codenamed midnight eruption or something. they set up a brothel and gave the johns acid to experiment on them. they had them on video as blackmail if they wanted to try to blow the whistle
>>75267376
>theory
It isnt a theory you retard, there was a huge congressional inquirey into it. Now as to the project every being shut down, do you think the CIA would ever give up on the idea of mind control? Furthermore, given that the CIA, at the time of its founding, was almost equally divided in half between Americans and Nazis isnt it strange that MKUltra, when its name is expanded from its annotated project name to its full name is Mind Control in German.
>>75267376
The real question is, >Did MK Ultra ever stop?
The answer is no. It didn't stop.
>>75271043
>Midnight Climax
They also tested on military personel IIRC.
>>75271225
If you ever look at how closely intertwined the "acid gurus" were with the CIA in the 60's you will realize there is very likely an on going experiment with hippy/festival/raver culture.
>>75271225
war. war changes.
>>75270803
I tend to believe the theory that some missing people were kidnapped for purposes like this. Just a feeling.
>you will never get dosed with that top shelf MKULTRA LSD
>is mind control real?
People literally believe that race and gender aren't real.
>>75267376
Leaking mkultra was the experiment. They wanted to know if people would revolt, they found out the actions of the government don't matter to people. Revolt is psychologically impossible in mass-capitalism.
>>75273583
This is an intriguing interpretation I haven't heard yet. Thank you.
> comes to /pol/
> asks /pol/ if X is a conspiracy theory
> facepalm
OP GTFO !
