Internet piracy is theft.
Stop justifying it
>b-but I dindu nuffin........
>m-mmuh difficulty in access
>m-muh delayed releases
you're a filthy, degenerate criminal
If you pirate, you violate intellectual property and hence abdicate the notion of individual property rights and are therefore a communist.
Why are you communist freaks, /pol/?
>>75262538
Many people who pirate content would not use or watch it if they had to pay for it. There's no loss of income here, they wouldn't buy it anyway. Instead, they do talk about it and create free advertising, this kind of advertising, mouth to mouth, is also one of the most effective ones I think.
Win win for everyone.
>>75262538
U just mad nobody is paying for your pro version of "4chan loli grabber". Nobody is stealing it because nobody is using it.
>>75262538
stop being a cocksucker OP
stealing from the jews is not theftery
>>75262538
I think you will find commies find ownership theft.
You seem to be confused (or just stupid).
>>75262538
>Original OC donut steel!
>If you repost my maymays without my EXPLICIT PERMISSION I will sue you in court with a LAWYER! And a JUDGE!!!
- the post
>sharing is theft
>>75262994
>Implying the government doesn't own everything.
>>75262538
>piracy
Every person using this word instead of copyright infringement deserves to get his opinion thrown in the trash
>>75263068
says the brazilian
>>75263204
>semantics invalidate the argument XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>75262873
This.
I never talked about MGS 5 because I don't know if the game is good.
They could have sold more games, if it weren't for Denuvo.
>>75263204
>Wanting to see "copyright infringement" 500 times in one thread instead of just "piracy"
>>75262538
information is nonlocal
>the media jew eternally btfo by god's physics
time to accept jesus, schlomo
>>75263271
You aren't talking about being a privateer or a fucking pirate. You are talking about software.
Do you use the word "sexual assault" when you talk about murders ? No ? Then fuck off and accept the right word.
>>75263313
Copy and paste instead of using the wrong words.
>>75262538
What if i have Foxtel but still pirate the shit i get on there?
>>75263396
>Copyright infrigement
>The right word
>Not "the right words"
>Trying to educate on accurate grammar
The irony
Consumers refusing to purchase unsatisfactory products is the backbone of capitalism.
>>75263449
What am I Stephen King? I not trying to get my shit published. The word piracy is just fine. The problem is YOU that are struggling to comprehend the discussion with the words used.
>>75262538
I remember in the 90's I bought a full game for 50 Gulden.
Now I pay € 60,- for a poorly developed game that has one third the content.
Then I need to pay extra to unlock content called DLC which is already included in the original game.
All in all I've payed over € 100,- per game these last years and all have them were major dissapointments compared to what was offered in terms of,... everything besides graphics.
Hence I pirate, if I like the game I simply buy it afterwards or if I really like it I buy a copy after a few hours of playing.
Also some older games cannot run on Steam for some reason, not even with the latest patches, there is simply no other way to play it than to download some version of it. Fucking Dark Messiah, Y U NO WORK!
>>75263646
But they are satisfactory products given that they are consumed.
Piracy creates a natural monopoly with zero cost. No firm can compete with that.
>>75262538
>Piracy is theft
Some shekels for the good goy
>>75263820
Satisfaction of content sure is proven by consumption and unsatisfaction of price is proven by piracy of product. If it was worth it it would sell.
>>75263048
R A R E
A
R
E
>>75263536
>autism
>>75262538
>Ausies
>Into XXI century economics
>Be auto desk
>Crack your own product
>Post it online
>Draftsmen and engineering students download it
>They become use to it
>They demand it as a working tool
>Sales to companies ++
>Be Sony
>Make a movie about a dictator
>Get "hacked"
>Movie leaked
>Only the noise make up about the loses(actors production etc..)
>Be ausies
>Shitpost
>>75263536
>implying grammar and semantics are the same
Cmon even the australian is better than you
>>75263820
It's not a monopoly as they don't compete in the same arenas at all. "Piracy" prior to the interbutt was largely criminals SELLING actual physical copies in competition with legitimate vendors.
This is obviously a destructive influence on the market. Distributing digital copies for free isn't comparable in terms of monoploly. No-one is going out of their way in the market to make people pirate anything.
>>75262538
After western sanctions all pirated software is considered spoils of war.
>>75263971
>If it was worth it it would sell.
Wrong.
Piracy offers an identical product at zero price. The rational consumer consumes infinite of pirated good and zero non-pirated good, ignoring contingent risks of getting caught and negative utility of "feeling bad".
The people that "pirate now, pay later" make up such a small minority.
If you don't pay for something, you don't have a right to use it you freeloading hippie
christ you yanks will pay for health insurance because you realise health aint free, yet apparently all intangible goods are free.
this form of intangible marxism is sweeping over the world
i stole some games
cannot buy them if i wanted
but i guess i am a communist
>>75263820
Look at games without piracy.
Overwatch sold like fucking hotcakes because it's fun as balls. Battleborn is already 40% off, and down to like 3k players despite being out less than a month because people think Gearbox is a piece of shit, and the game looks horrible. The game isn't even that bad, just ugly. It's the developers that people hate.
Now imagine that with the possibility of getting the game free. I've bought Roller Coaster Tycoon physically, on gog, and on Steam, but I'd never pay for a game I hate.
>>75264130
RARE
>>75262538
Trust me, I've reevaluated and decided to just stick to legal means of domestic media consumption. But fuck you, I'll risk a c&d for subs.
>>75263820
This is such a disingenuous argument since the entertainment industry seems to be having no problems making massive profits despite over a decade of file sharing.
>satisfactory products given that they are consumed
They consumed the product because they obtained it at near zero cost.
>>75263720
>piracy is fine
No it is not.
It has been used by entertainment companies to make it evil. And you are falling for this.
When does the true piracy begin ?
If I get (borrow) a game from a friend, is this piracy ? If I knew this person from a community dedicated to game sharing, is this piracy ? If the guys from the community sends it from the internet, is it piracy ? If I know him, is it piracy ?
>>75262538
So is taxation :^)
>>75262538
So u be sayin that jack sparrow wuz a commie?
I think piracy is ok :DDD
>>75264255
>>75263978
It's not rare you cunts.
If you're gonna speed out over an uncommon-at-best country in this thread, at least do it to the Best Korean.
>>75262873
This. Game of Thrones and the like would never have become this popular Worldwide without piracy. How many people get HBO outside of the US?
>>75264208
I've never known a single pirate who wasn't also a massive paying consumer of digital goods.
I don't give a shit about your hot opinion.
I'm gonna pirate the fuck out of shit I want to pirate. Who the fuck need to justify it anyway?
>>75262538
If you walked in the book shop and opened a book and copied the content onto a paper, would that be a theft?
If I didn't pirate I would never buy it anyway. So what's the problem
>>75262538
Well done, my goy.
>>75264606
>If I didn't pirate I would never buy it anyway. So what's the problem
You don't have a right to access what you don't pay for.
Can you break into a 24 hour gym nobody else is in, that you're not a member of, and use the facilities for free?
If you don't chip in, you don't get the benefits.
>>75262538
copy+paste is not theft emu rape baby.
also if someone is too stupid to secure their product then fuck them.
and let's not forget sony, micro$oft and everyone else have no problem pirating open software and user content and they also have no problem spying on us. so double fuck them. and before you start with "support the content creators or they'll starve" I say let them fucking starve and let better ones take their places.
I'm not a communist, I'm just a thief.
>>75263291
Actually they'd sell less since MGS5 is unfinished garbage.
I would pay if had money.
I wouldn't pay for music though, or pay to a singer/band directly
>>75264730
What if he can copy the facilities without even bothering to go to a gym ?
>>75264775
forgot to pirate pic
again - if you have a problem with copy+paste go talk to the chinese first
>>75264730
Yes I could as no one would be there. Either way that's a completely different context. I handle no goods and no one would even know. You say it like musicians that get there music pirated are struggling. The pure fact that they make THAT much money from singing and dancing is a joke. While you got a doc on £30000 a year. I don't give a fuck about whiney musicians. They have enough
>>75264775
>copy+paste is not theft
yes, it is you delusional gypsy
>also if someone is too stupid to secure their product then fuck them.
hurr durr black man breaks into a store they should have put better security in he dindu NUFIN
>open software
you mean free software, which is licenced for use on the condition they also publish any modifications they have, meaning microsoft effectively pay employees to contribute to such projects. kay senpai.
>user content and they also have no problem spying on us
what's forcing you to use their services
>and before they'll starve" I say let them fucking starve and let better ones take their places
look at it from the formula of the universal law
if everyone pirated, there'd be no content.
imagine the government puts a law in - to allow enough drinking watr- no watering gardens. You watering your garden makes no impact on the grand scheme of things. But if everyone does, there's no drinking water. Do you still water?
Musician, here.
Back when YouTube wasn't the total clusterfuck it is now, I received a message from an American who informed he had used a 'cool new trick' to download my entire collection of work, and that it would be 'perfect' for his road trip across the country.
Was I happy about this? bollocks was I. Everyone has overheads they need to cover (some more than others, fair enough) but the principle is universal.
Tangentially, he would have ended up with 128kbp MP3s, too. Daft cunt.
>>75262538
Piracy is a form of universal income.
>>75265109
You are really doing a terrible job trying to convince people not to pirate shill
>>75262538
you pirated a whole country from the abodigitals
>>75264775
You're being as disingenuous as the majority of Romanians I know are. What you're describing is still taking income away from the creator.
>Be Romanian
>Fuck over hard working people
Hungary should Nuke you cretins.
>>75265202
you're a communist. the electronic equivalent of a black thug who steals other stuff and tries to justify it..
i'd rather be a shill, thug. #PirateLivesMatter
>>75262538
>intellectual property
>property
>implying that the original ceases to exist
>implying that you can "steal" information and ideas
>>75265449
you do realise in your libertarian wonderland, with no patent protection there'd be literally no medicine
freedumb
>>75265405
why so angry mayte? are you a failed musician? didgerydoo albums not selling like they used to
>>75265566
>implying I don't want fascist aristocratic technocracy, sans jew of course.
/pol/ simply can't justify piracy. You live in a state of cognitive dissonance.
Enjoy the new order of Marxism. You've all taken the bait.
>>75262873
This is the most retarded logic.
>steal ice cream
>yum
>If I couldn't have stolen it I wouldn't have bought it
This is somehow not stealing though.
you took a product someone made without their consent, used it then claim that he was never going to get your money in the first place. I have an idea. If you don't want to buy something don't buy it.
>>75262538
I will try before I buy as granted to me under capitalism you think I am going to monetarily support pieces of shit that are undeserving go back to your communist shit hole I vote with my wallet cunt.
>maybe try making something people want next time.
>>75265686
>why pirate?
because i can
>>75265566
Uh.. no?
The cure for polio was given out to free for everyone, the guy who discovered it wasn't a greedy jew and didn't make a billion dollars off it, but the disease was cured
>>75264222
The flag got me excited, then I realized it was a proxy.
>>75262538
implying ~80% of content entertainment providers put out is worth the price they ask
go fuck yourself
>>75265264
Kek
>>75265733
>no lose of income
>>75265686
>implying art is important
>implying that money is anything but a jewish trick
>implying that copyright/patent law doesn't protect the corporation instead of the scientists
>implying they actually get royalties from their inventions
etc.
You virtue signalling retards don't even care about the people who actually do the work, you just support the corporations.
Sure, patent law and intellectual property are needed to a degree.
But the way they are now, and the way the companies that produce piratable material are, piracy hurts only the labels and the corporations. The actual people who do the work have long since been paid, unless its a small business, then you shouldn't be a dick, or the music industry, in which case, who gives a fuck.
>>75265733
Ice cream is physical.
Digital content doesn't remove the original content.
A proper analogy would be copying the ice cream, not taking the original ice cream.
TIL /pol/ are a bunch of degenerate thieves.
If i go to the library and check out an e-book, am I pirating?
>>75265897
Then don't buy it or steal it. Simple let them lower prices or fail.
So if I let my friends borrow my DVDs are they pirates
>>75266229
>DVDs
who the fuck watches DVDs?
>>75266282
If I let my friend log in my netflix account is he a thief
>>75266229
yes, but only if the borrowed them form a cargo ship in the gulf of yemen
>>75266319
yes, but its fine, movie + music industry are both insanely rich, and very jewish. there is nothing wrong with any action that hurts jewish profits.
>>75266367
Wrong. He didn't pay for the intellectual property. He is a pirate.
/pol/ is as bad as sanders. Free shit lmao. I don't want to pay, I'll just take it for free. Someone else can pay for it, I don't care.
Where's my free college and free weed
>>75266229
No.
You have bought the DVD which includes a single playback licence associated with that physical DVD.
But if you burn a copy of it, or worse transcode it and give it to 100,000 people, then yes.
There is a big difference between "sharing" and piracy.
The platforms which electronically enforce this (DRM) are viewed extremely negatively by people because in reality, they just want free shit.
>>75262538
But it's ok for movies and video games to be mediocre or unfinished and we're expected to pay for it?
Fuck you ultimate cuck
Piracy allows so much more people to know about the shit and talk about it on 9gag and kikebook, it creates trending, facilitates merchandising...
In the end, they make more money than they would just selling their crappy products
You just sound like an idiot who found out about the internet yesterday
>>75266449
WRONG
MY FRIEND LET 10,000 PEOPLE BORROW IT
>>75262538
Seriously when did lending something you bought to someone become a crime.
Imagine if back in the day someone copywriting fire.
>>75266083
>write a book
>make copies
>someone steals book
>That was a interesting read
>I wouldn't have taken it if I couldn't have bought it.
>I'm doing him a favor because i'm advertising his book when i happen to mention it once a couple months.
>Its not like he's losing income
>its not like the entire purpose of writing a book was to make money so he can support himself to write more
>It was too expensive anyway
All I see are a bunch of excuses for being a nigger. Stop stealing.
>>75266449
Oh okay, so, if only a few people torrent movies and games it's not piracy it's sharing
>>75265109
>to copy is to steal
>to copy is to break into a physical place and damage it + steal
>if you copy my software you're stealing but if I copy someone else's, change the interface colours and charge 59.95 that's A-OK
>if everyone copies the original will magically disappear (right after saying if you copy free software and change it a little that's fine, the free software doesn't disappear) and noone will ever invent shit
hmmm...so after thousands of years without copyright laws today, in current year we have: antibiotics, aircraft, computers, cars, guns, microsoft windows (yep, not original), etc, etc...but we need copyright laws now. and to copy is to steal.
![[intensity intensifies].gif](https://i.imgur.com/Y7s8xYo.gif "[intensity intensifies].gif")
>>75266551
I bet the Jews did this.
>>75266551
>embed is autoplaying
what the fuck
>>75266620
that image is hilarious
>>75266551
kek
>>75266551
Sorcery!!
Burn him at the stake!
>>75266551
YOU WOULDN'T 3D PRINT A GUN
YOU WOULDN'T 3D PRINT A CAR
STOP. COPYING IS PIRACY.
>>75266551
irritating shit
>>75266551
What the fuck
>>75266551
sup ##mod
:stopmusic:
>>75266449
I like how you don't address a valid point.
Copyright law and intellectual property law are unfairly balanced towards the publisher and distributor.
These people do no actual work towards the end product, and should not be protected.
>>75266083
>>75266587
>literally said don't be a dick to small businesses
>implying the law doesn't just protect the publisher and not the artist
>implying entertainment works the same as digital mediums and scientific developments
>implying it actually matters what some faggot, who probably is a bad writer, makes
REMEMBER
A FEW PEOPLE IS JUST SHARING.
BUT MORE IS PIRACY
>>75266551
so... this is the hacker known as 4chan... pretty impressive.
>>75266551
>>75266658
Thanks mod-kun
>be le me
>be in le garage sale
>buy movie
>original intellectual property owner gets no money for the content
TRIGGERED
#GARAGESALESAREPIRACY
>>75266583
But you aren't just lending it to someone. you are copying it and then giving it to someone. Imagine the poor guy who spent 50 years of his life trying to make artificial fire. The second he made it everyone just steals it from him and everybody has fire and he's back to being a nobody low life beta in the tribe.
This isn't about lending something to another person its about stealing it.
>>75266937
point already addressed above
>>75266834
Piracy has been around since the Internet went public. I don't see Beyonce struggling
>>75266449
ok emu survivor answer me this: if I pay for a DVD don't I own it? and if I own it can't I do what ever the fuck I want with it? if not why?
Capitalism allows for "Try before you Buy"
Capitalism is Quintessential for Piracy to exist as is Piracy for Capitalism to exist.
Communism is collectivization... WE ARE NOT KILLING THE CREATOR OF THE THING DOWNLOADED
>thats what commies do.
If I download something I don't like and its shit I delete it if I enjoy something I will give money to the creators as a way to support them and even go beyond and donate.
>probably an exception to the rule as I am a creator myself.
>>75266193
mod stop shitposting
they have a licence from the distributor to allow them, that's the difference
>>75266974
that's called corporations, tard.
Publishers, distributors, etc. they take credit for other peoples work all the time, and make billions off of it.
And unlike pirates, they actually do harm, because it means that scientists, who actually matter compared to artists, are hurt.
>>75266937
This
LE COPYING IS THE SAME AS LE SHARING
UNTIL TOO MANY PEOPLE GET IT LOLLLLLLL
tf 10 million people bought it and they made tons of cash but 5 million pirate it and it had no effect on sales at all
TRIGGERED
>>75266974
I have to give it to you anon, I couldn't have made a worse analogy if I tried.
Anybody know how to get into contact with Warez BB admins?
>>75267055
>If I download something I don't like and its shit I delete it if I enjoy something I will give money to the creators as a way to support them and even go beyond and donate.
Sure you will.
>>75266765
hey guys lets agree to stop stealing from small companies because that'll work
Hey guise it only ok if your stealing from the ebil rich man.
People like you need to kill yourselves. You're just making excuses for stealing. Stop being niggers.
>implying entertainment works the same as digital mediums and scientific developments
Are you saying there is a difference between a book written in 01's and book written in print. Because there isn't it.
>doesn't understand the concept of intellectual property.
>be le me
>be in museum store
>take le pic on my iphone 6s
>original artistr never paid for the photo of his painting
TRIGGERED
>>75267226
I'm downloading now
>>75267178
Explain to me how Streaming a movie is like Grand Theft Auto.
>Who doesn't want physical copies of shit they like its just better.
>be le me
>go see movie in theaters, pay 15 dollars to support it
>download cam to watch it again later, or watch my favorite parts
>original creator only got 15 dollars from me and not the additional 10 billion dollars I should have paid for the cam to watch my favorite scenes
TRIGGERED AS FUCK
>>75267226
Corporations, publishers, and distributors deserve no money for intellectual property.
In the case of the small business, the distributor and the inventor/creator are usually one and the same, meaning that they actually deserve money.
People who create are the only ones that matter, and copyright and intellectual property law as it is now just takes advantage of them.
>come up with brilliant money making idea
>oh that's on company time, it's ours now~
What's with this stupid music?
>>75266551
You ginger fuck
>>75267483
>Corporations, publishers, and distributors deserve no money for intellectual property.
Do you steal from Wal-Mart because the Walton family don't deserve your money, nigger?
DID YOU PAY FOR THAT FUCKING MEME IMAGE?
WHO SAID YOU COULD SAVE IT AND REUSE IT?
>but it's free
>implying the intellectual property owner of pepe and dat boi allowed you to save that
TRIGGERED!!!!!!!!!
>>75264775
Copy and pasting your projects it's neither theft...
If I get credit for it and get paid for it and you as the creator wouldn't .. it's not theft.. because I simply copy-pasted it.
Of course both of us have the same project in our hands but I got the credit for it - because I copied it from you and hurried to monetize it.
>>75266116
Ok, so how about I go to a store that charges to copy items, I copy an item and just put what ever amount of paper I used back into their machine from my house. Is this theft?
>>75267226
How much does it cost a producer for each download of a digital album. If we were stealing cds I'd agree
Pirate Party Fag here, do you think the folk who invented agriculture got a dime?
>>75266551
you scared the shit outta me, i was pirating something and i thought it was a virus playing the song
<BE LE ME
<GO TO LE CINÉMA TO WATCH LE FILM
<THEY ARE NICE AND MAKE AN EXCEPTION TO THE NO SINGLES POLICY AND I GET TO GO IN ALONE
<CHECK MY FALCON AT THE FALCONRY CHECK ROOM
<PROCEED TO SHOWERS AND TAKE A PRE-THEATRE SHOWER
<OBTAIN LARGE BUCKET OF CRAB LEGS
<SIT DOWN TO ENJOY LE MOVIE
<WATCH FULL THING
<GO HOME
<REMEMBER THE MOVIE IN VIVID DETAIL
<REPLAY SCENES AND ENJOY THEM AGAIN IN MY HEAD
GUYS MY MIND PIRATED LE FILM!!
>>75267732
No, physical wear on machines and ink use
Poor example
Am I the only one who heres the piuracy rap in the background? wtf
>>75267754
YOU MENTALLY COPIED THE FILM
TRIGGERED
>>75266551
Should have played some seriously copyrighted material so everyone that joined the thread would be guilty of piracy.
Piracy can actually be one of the greatest things in modern day. The fact that anyone has the ability to gain access to anything they want and increase their potential for giving to humanity. It's one of those things that is an unseen investment into culture. It is probably the greatest thing to ever happen to culture, and it also probably improves the economy. How many people are there that would not have a career if they didn't pirate some program when they were 12 years old? Or think of the amount of influences people have nowadays by pirating music. Piracy makes it so that people have access to information and are able to use that information, which exponentially increases connections to be made.
My view is that the only people who should feel morally culpable pirating programs are people who are making money from it. If you aren't making money from it, and you are doing a hobby that you would have otherwise not even have gotten into, there is no ethical reason why this person should pay. He can only give back to the community and not take away.
>>75262538
No it's not, it's pure capitalism at it's best. Here's the story.
Artists and musicians used to be lower class in society with the exception of the select few that were exceptionally talented. This is rooted in the capitalistic sense of creation of value. However, they had to work hard for what they earned by touring, gaining exposure via a ground game, and exhibiting or performing their work.
Then came technological advancements that allowed for massive reproduction of works and dissemination such as the printing press, recording equipment, radio, and tv. That allowed artist's to reap benefits to scale multiple times over for producing something of value only once. They basically worked hard at one thing once, and were able to live at a higher means thereafter. Of course with competition, it became harder; but the reward was greater. Copying mixed tapes never really put a damper on the business because the quality was shit and people didn't do it on a massive scale.
Finally, technologies such as the Internet, p2p and torrent DL's caught up to it. Without looking at it from a legal standpoint, but more a free market standpoint, their golden years were over. They produced a work and it was disseminated for free. Without litigation, the trend was leaning toward artists' median income declining to what it used to be, but slightly better because of competition and advances.
But they freaked out, lobbied, and litigated. It's the liberals that push for more laws for it. This might make more sense when you think about how in the context of things, artists are almost always liberal now. Having more laws, allows them to bypass the free market and make more money.
I'm especially sensitive to this matter, because artists have become celebrities that are grown ass children. They don't know shit, never held a real job, and think their opinion is gold. And people buy into that shit and idolize these freaks making the world a worse place to live.
>>75262538
Dont copy that floppy
>>75267754
how on earth did a shitposter become a mod
>>75267868
Not cutting off your ears....
Triggered.....
>>75267901
Oh, TLDR; it's NOT COMMUNISM
>>75267663
Physical property is not ideas.
The person who comes up with the idea owns the idea.
It is theirs to do with what they wish, however, it will always be theirs.
The concept that a corporation can own a patent takes something away from creators.
Creators are literally the only people on this fucking planet doing anything to help anything.
Why haven't you addressed this extremely serious issue?
>come up with brilliant money making idea
>oh that's on company time, it's ours now~
I'm fine with intellectual property law and am in most cases anti-piracy, I literally said that before.
It just needs to be changed to protect the creators instead of the corporations.
And for the record, the walton family doesn't deserve money
WALMART A SHIT
>>75267754
also please consult global rule 3
>>75267901
>I justify my stealing habit by the fact that groups of people used to be poor in the past.
Stealing is wrong regardless how you put it - if you don't want to make that artist rich don't buy his products, and if you like his product and bought it - what's your problem 100000 more people also bought the product and now he's rich?
>>75267976
Walmart is great
>>75266551
WHAT IS THIS?!
Too bad piracy is pretty much over now with the new copyright technology DeNuvo. Look at Doom 4. Normally, it would be online at all pirate sites the day of release, but there's still no legit copies anywhere because DeNuvo can't be hacked.
As more and more games start to use DeNuvo, piracy will be a thing of the past so its a non argument.
>>75267896
Also, I know from experience, I owe nearly all of my knowledge, talent, skills and anything that could be seen as having potential to contribute to humankind thanks to piracy.
>>75266989
>Stealing is ok as long as you steal from rich people.
Are you a commie?
>>75268044
Your premise that it's stealing is wrong, therefore your argument is invalid. Try again later.
>ever standing up for these grown children
You liberal cuck.
>>75268085
And that's the succession of technological evolution. That's how it should be. Not litigation.
But then we should be allowed to crack that shit with impunity.
>>75262538
>yes good goy, pay for our propaga... I mean movies
Who cares about pirating jewish movies?
>>75267049
No you can't. You do not own a dvd when you buy it. You are renting it for life.
If you buy a dvd and give to someone else thats fine. However if you buy a dvd, copy it , then give to someone else its theft.
Since you're already copying why not copying a couple more and start giving them to hundreds of people for free. I mean, your just letting the borrow it right?
>>75267812
Ok asshole, I give them the same amount of ink I used and there is no wear and tear from making one copy, I fix hardware for a living so please don't attempt to tell me wear and tear happens with every fucking thing.
>I used the treadmill for 3 seconds, now it's gonna need new shit!!!
>>75268183
You're the product of socialist education in USA, it's literally that
http://changingminds.org/explanations/critical_theory/concepts/signifier_signified.htm
I follow a supreme Being which is absolute and took human flesh - that is where my morality and standards come from.
God said stealing is wrong, of course stealing is wrong, even the mechanism God put into my brain tell me stealing is wrong, I did not break it with Jewish media.
>>75262538
No it isn't.
>If you pirate, you violate intellectual property
What a bunch of made up bullshit. Copyright infringement is taking someone else's creation and claiming it's your own or making money on it without their consent. Not viewing it. Corporate faggots are worst faggots.
>>75262669
>>75262787
No this belongs right where it is.
>>75262538
t. kike
Jesus copied bread and fish and distributed them to people for free. If what he did is theft then Jesus is guilty of sin and the entire gospel is therefore null and void.
>>75267100
Are you retarded? What does this have to do with scientists. The distributors have to pay the artists you know. If you want to start copying the content then give the creator a percentage of every purchase then go ahead.
Why do you keep talking about scientists.
What if a scientists published his paper on a new invention that can be made at home and bunch of people downloaded it. It hurts him too.
Scientists have nothing to do with piracy though. Scientists aren't the only people that have intellectual property.
>>75267118
>no affect on sales
Yes it does have a effect on sales. they just lost 5 million sales retard.
To be honest I downloaded a ton of stuff
But then I felt bad for jewing the poor content creators so I uploaded it all back again
>>75267119
I'm not the one who started the fire analogy.
>>75264784
All communists are thieves, but not all thieves are communists.
MODS HELP
HELP
DELETE THIS THREAD
>>75267663
ITS NOT STEALING BECAUSE WALLMART DOESN'T OWN THE MILK OR PLAYSTATIONS.
I violate "intellectual property rights" all the time just like I violate Jewish law, neither are enforceable to me and I don't recognize them.
Theft implies the original owner no longer has their property, but filesharing doesn't affect that at all.
>>75262538
Typically when you steal something from someone, they have less of that thing.
We're just sharing copies.
>>75268375
ahhh....so I'm paying for renting it now.
just like when I buy a car I'm only renting it. or like when I'm buying some pork or a beer I'm only renting those.....aha....
fuck you and fuck your legalese kike speak. I'm buying another 2TB drive
>>75268518
REREAD!!
REREAD!!!!
Your reading comprehension skills need some work.
I said
>Your premise that it's stealing is wrong
In other words, you are wrong about it being considered theft.
Goddamnit man. I was quite fucking clear. I didn't need all that shit.
>>75267907
lods and lods of bratise :^)
>>75269069
>Typically when you steal something from someone, they have less of that thing.
this doesn't apply because you're comparing tangible items where copies cannot be made with intellectual, intangible property.
apple & oranges.
if you're going to argue using something physcial, use something like drugs where the cost isn't in the manufacture but the r&d. i'm just copying the drug that somebody else figured out.
>>75263048
>The Isle of Man
Dude. Fuckign kick ass.
>>75267754
<BE ME
<GO TO WALLMART
<STEAL ALL OF THE DVDS IN THE ISLE
<SHOVE ALL OF THE CLOTHES INTO PANTS
<DRINK ALL BLEACH TO USE LATER
<ITS NOT STEALING BECAUSE WALLMART DIDN'T CREATE THE BLEACH OR MOVIES
<PLUS I'VE ALREADY SEEN THESE MOVIES AND REMEMBER IT IN MY HEAD SO ITS NOT LIKE I'M STEALING IT OR ANYTHING.
Meme music
>>75269257
>In other words, you are wrong about it being considered theft.
It is considered theft by the law.
>>75264222
i totally agree. for example i want to play a game like Lil Samson for the nes i cant own it. because some crazy fuckn neckbeard is hoarding them all and charging a fuckn fortune for them. or download a 1gb file that has the whole library that i can play any damn way i want and make infinite copies of. The real argument here is Digital Vs Physical media The Hollywood jews need to stop crying over the lost shekels. realize if someone loves your product enough they will support it
>>75268944
Technically due to the way the jews at SONY set up their distribution and the final EULA, all PlayStation 3s and 4s are owned by SONY regardless of who most recently paid for them. So no, Walmart does not own the PlayStation.
Where is that music coming from?
>>75269304
>lods and lods of bratise :^)
how much did you pay the chink to up you from janifag status, captain do-it-for-free?
fuck i hate to say it but i wish moot was back
>>75269480
The ghetto
>>75269369
equating stealing with copying again.
not an argument jamal.
If I can get away with it, I'll keep doing it. If Denuvo stops games from getting pirated I'll just play old/autistic/other games. They can't stop me from pirating TV shows/movies/music/books so there is that...
piracy is fine
corporate cucks are just afraid of it because its an unknown quantity throwing a wrench into their metrics
though it does make a good scapegoat when you want to off some executive
>>75262538
Ancap here.
Fuck statist laws, if they want to preserve their intellectual "rights" they should make a better criptpgraphy
<BE ME
<1876
<READ BOOK
<THAT WAS GREAT BOOK
<I BET PEOPLE WILL LOVE THIS BOOK
<WRITE THOUSANDS OF COPIES
<GIVE THEM TO EVERYONE I CAN FIND
<GIVE COPIES TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO COPY BOOK
<MILLIONS OF PEOPLE GET BOOK FOR FREE
<ITS NOT THEFT I SWEAR
<ALL I DID WAS COPY IT
>>75265733
Physical products are the exact same thing as data that can be copied over and over again?
>>75262538
>Violating monopoly rights
>Theft.
Nope.
>If you pirate, you violate intellectual property and hence abdicate the notion of individual property rights and are therefore a communist.
Not an argument
>>75269577
best position on the future brat. besides all the games in the future are going to be full sjw propaganda anyway so why pay to have your brain infested when you can play good old games?
I still have porsche, diablo, brood...a lot of older games that I modded for hi-res and they're 10000x better than whatever the fuck is called "art" nowadays
>>75269442
Who's law? That's assuming the law is always factually correct. The liberals create most of those laws. I'm arguing it's not communist, it's anticommunist. It's capitalism at it's finest, free from law.. and you throw a law definition out there? Goddamn, that's some circular logic.
Stealing is when you take something from someone else that is not yours. You're not taking something from anybody. You're duplicating it. It's not stealing.
This might have a learning curve to understand. I don't even know anymore.
>>75269793
>>75266116
>>75266083
>they already have tons of ice cream
>BE ME
<1908
<BUY CAR
<SEE HOW ITS MADE
<CREAT MY OWN EXACT COPY
<START MAKING MILLIONS OF COPIES FOR FREE WITH MY DADS FACTORY
<START GIVING EVERYONE CARS FOR FREE
<THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH DOING THIS FORD DIDN'T LOSE ANY INCOME.
>>75268440
I'm sorry son, it seems like you're thick :(
>>75262538
It's not theft you mongoloid, but it's definitely illegal.
>>75262538
the concept that you can own an idea is retarded beyond measure
>>75269325
you're right, piracy and theft is like apples and oranges in that they're nothing alike
how the fuck does this thread have music playing on it what mod did this for free
>>75269561
but its the same thing. wallmart can always just copy another dvd of the movie. You didn't steal all of their copies just one of each. Wallmart can continue to sell these copies, you however did steal multiple copies of dvds.
Whats the difference. In this case wallmart is just the person making copies and your just the one taking them for free.
>>75270093
>if you take a picture of my car you're stealing my car
fuck off shill. I'm buying 2 more hdds
>>75262538
Okay that's cool try and stop me faggot.
>>75269581
>le ebil corporations
The internet has reinvented capitalism.
Prices and commodities in the virtual world are not based on resources.They can be replicated for free and almost ad infinitum.
If anything, we are starting to enter what seems like a post-scarcity society. At least just when it comes to digital media.
I pay for movies I really want to see. I'll also pay for game services like gamefly. But usually, I just want to enjoy a game or movie once, finish it, and then delete it forever.
I don't think it's as easy as "piracy is stealing."
OP ETERNALLY BTFO
>>75262538
>If you pirate, you violate intellectual property
Actually I don't.
>>75269697
the purpose of life is increasing connections, piracy is an anti-parasite mechanism. Instead of information being parasited and thus decreasing potential for connections, it is flowing. The wealth of one living being within this system of dynamic interrelations does not come anywhere close to increasing the amount of connections that piracy allows. We're taking net gains here. If there was no piracy, you would be on your way to a state of atrophy after a state of homogeny. This process called piracy which beings are involved in is a bypass valve that creates balance. No ideology whether moral, political, or economical will take this principle into consideration. And they don't need to. It's a natural process and it will find a way to balance, just like in the jungle or anywhere else. it is all the same shit.
>>75269793
yes. You think a book it that expensive to make? Its just a bunch of paper and ink. Books can be copied over and over again. How is it not theft to steal a book from a bookstore? It only costs cents to make the thing. If you leave a dollar on the ground then run out of the store with a 30 dollar book its not really theft is it.
>>75270349
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
so walmart can make copies even though they don't "own" the dvds (they're just renting them, I got that) but if I make a copy I'm stealing
remember those 2 2TB drives I was going to buy? they just became 3 and soon enough imma build a fucking wall of them. you're gonna have to back shill.
I can afford the entertainment but I don't feel like paying the Jews.
Thanks for the thread, t. Hershel Shecklestein
>>75270271
"i missed the point", the post
>>75263855
EL HUECO LAS MALVINAS, TU HERMANA Todos piratean en Peru
>>75270205
>the concept that you can own property is retarded beyond measure.
>>75270711
You don't have a point, you never had one.
>>75270666
walmart can't copy the DVDs and rent them out, unless they get permission from the distributor (and pay for the privilege).
They can buy & rent out like we can.
FUcking HiroYuKI and MODds get rid of this msuic RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>75265645
>under rated post
>>75271012
>You don't have a point, you never had one.
your lack basic comprehension skills doesn't assist, you sanders voting cuck
>>75262538
Was that picture your original?
Where does that fucking song come from?
Everyone itt knows goddamn well what Trump's opinon on piracy and animu actually are in reality. I for example had great fun hacking my Wii, going to gbatemp for all the best homebrew, and then torrenting all the retro games I wanted in .wbfs format.
But if this was made impossible to do now through the actions of the coming conservative pro-bussiness, pro-property Trump administration; though I'd be supremely butthurt about it, I would still vote for it. Because I am not a manchiild who cannot see beyond himself.
/thread
/argument
/discussion for all time
>>75271323
It's hirogook and the mods
>>75271095
Is there any logical reason why you would fucking say that post is underrated? Has anybody expressed any kind of dissatisfaction or criticism at all against it? Are you delusional? Are you reading replies that are nonexistant? Maybe you come from communities with voting systems, but there is literally no way that you could know what other people think of that post you just replied to here. Maybe it's psychological. Maybe it's your own post you're replying to, like a 12 year old fucktard liking his own facebook posts thinking his swelling autism is going unnoticed. Maybe your self esteem depends on you tricking yourself into thinking someone out there thinks your post is worth something. Or maybe you are just a retard, the worst kind of retard, the one who thinks he's smart, the one who thinks he's the only one to have gotten the joke, to have understood the post. Well, guess what, faggot, that post is under no definition underrated so why don't you do the world a favor and go check out what the bottom of your toilet smells like?
>>75271139
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pirate_Flag_of_Jack_Rackham.svg
>Creative Commons Public Domain Dedication
try again fag
>>75270869
It IS retarded
>>75271139
kek
pic is my very thin month. didn't even torrent much since I mostly use that evil streaming and direct download
>>75271481
i'm not sure what's worse, the fact you're a pirating commie or that you're using utorrent
at least get tixati or deluge
>>75271450
Commie detected.
this is why you should kill yourself.
>>75271450
fuck off with your shared ownership bullshit, you communist KEK
>>75270869
Pls bend over, I have a sexual emergency. All resistence is invalid.
>>75268173
Yeh. I got free education. Free health care. Free money for young people. Come join
>>75271481
>>75270666
>>75270371
I wouldn't expect any less from a gypsy.
>>75264251
What's your point? Overwatch is a multiplayer game and is impossible to pirate. The top selling single player games are heavily pirated at launch and also tend to drop in price rapidly after launch, presumably in an attempt to derive some revenue from people who want to play it, think the price is too high, and feel entitled to play it immediately rather than wait for it to drop to what they seem to be a "fair" price - as I'm sure there is a limited time horizon for those people to be willing to pay anything at all once they've already pirated and played it.
>>75263751
>Dark Messiah
Holy shit I love that game. Played it through like 6 times now. Why don't they make a sequel or something... Dishonored just wasn't quite as good and too easy
>>75271760
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""free"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>75271609
You say it like communism is a bad thing. Check out the health of people in cuba
>>75271760
>free
So finally they reveal their true colors. Communism doesn't work by the way.
>>75271336
Irrefutable/10
I too pirate shit, but this post is based and cannot be denied. Time to grow up kiddos.
>>75271883
>You say it like communism is a bad thing.
you don't belong on this imageboard
>>75271883
>cubans
>healthy
gr8 b8
Might is right faggot.
I can take pirated content and you can't stop it.
Who's the commie now?
>>75262538
Get fucked retard
>>75271573
why would I do that when I can mod the tiny the way I want?
and like I said torrenting is what I use for small stuff, all legit. direct is what you need to do to push the kikes' shit in.
>>75266937
There's a reason game publishers raised a massive stink over used games sales and M$ almost release the xbone with no ability to play used games.
The fact of the matter is that used games are seen as even more of a problem than piracy itself on the bottomline, and the same is true in other digital industries.
>>75266551
>Oregon Trail
KEK
>>75271915
Don't want to break it to you like this but have you seen America recently? Capitalism is broke too m8
>>75272169
By this logic once I can stop it my might circumvents. So all you can do is cry bitch tears.
>>75272047
Says an English reject. What's that flag m8
