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For a website that claims to be 'redpilled' your swallowing the ultimate blue pill if you're still not a vegan. Meat eating is unnecessary and overall unhealthier in today's society.
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Vegans need to be gassed
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People who dont regularly exercize are much more likely to develop heart disease and die much sooner. Why not attack that instead? There are some fights worth fighting in life and this isnt one of them. The environmental impact of eating meat is much more important than the physical health effects. If this is true why not attack petroleum use? It is much more damaging.
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>>75260002
Only if your an inferior homo sapinshit. this is a Neanderthal board.
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>>75260002
We need to start eating the vegans so we no longer have to hear about veganism.
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>>75260002
I eat meat because it tastes nice.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lvFyRmwSbIg

Fucking no hope in talking about veganism on /pol/, the amount of autism in this board is fucking unmanageable

They still fall for the "MEET MAEKS U MANLY LEL VEEGUN PUSSIS" meme.

Get educated, faggots. Dumping some redpilled videos.
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I will never stop eating meat
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>vegetarians
>everyone else

yes, diet-conscious individuals tend to be healthier than the remaining entirety of humanity

whether vegan or otherwise
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Veganism is a dangerous meme that makes males weak , effeminate and infertile. Don't fall for it. Just eat quality organic meat
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>>75260002
>people who pay more attention to their diets live longer than people that don't
Wow, couldn't have figure that out, that doesn't mean that meat is bad for you, just that people who don't pay attention to their diets tend to die earlier.
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>>75260002

being vegan is much better than primitive nigger behavior like eating animals
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XmXynDLkbXY
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>>75260002
What's the gay/vegan correlation?
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I will never become a vegan
I would however accept shit like insectburgers
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmfRUwqGy4
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>live six to ten years longer

Oh boy, an extra decade as a pathetic wrinkly senile burden on my loved ones. Sign me up!
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>>75260002
>Thinking I would rather live size to ten years longer in a frail,deteriorating body than die eating a final double from in n out burger
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t3j80WpjM0M
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>>75260002
nice sources
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>>75260002

enjoy your malnutritioned "long" life
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vegans should be killed
hellenic inspired exercise regiment is the true Aryan way
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>>75260916
>muh canines
Wow look at this fearsome predato... oh wait.
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>>75260002
Why do vegans feel the need to shove their shitty lifestyle down our throats.
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>>75261084
forgot my link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISgKl8dB3M
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GR_XfQ4je9s
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>Estrogen in Meat, Dairy, and Eggs

>The sex steroids found naturally in animal products likely exceed the hormonal impacts of endocrine-disrupting chemical pollutants.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/estrogen-in-meat-dairy-and-eggs/

>Dairy Estrogen and Male Fertility

>Sex steroid hormones in meat, eggs, and dairy may help explain the link between saturated fat intake and declining sperm counts.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/dairy-estrogen-and-male-fertility/
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>be a liberal nu male vegan
>go to grocery store in diverse neigbourhood
>tyrone decides he need some money
>dead vegan laying in the street
Meanwhile I am enjoying my fried chicken laughing at the dead healthy fag.
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>>75260002
enjoy your extra 10% of expected life as a wrinkly mess shitting yourself while I live life enjoying whatever the fuck I want
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>>75261093
Nigga, you implying that nigga isn't a brutal predator?
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>>75260002
Vegans are much more likely to be health conscious than meat eaters.

Eating meat is not the cause of this. Being a vegan raises more problems than it solves.
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>>75260002
Where's that article about the breast fed baby dying because his mom was a vegan and the milk lacked nutrients!
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>>75260002

>Six to 10 years longer (all things equal, given genetics, other healthy lifestyle choices, occupation, etc).

Hardly seems worth it. I know old dudes in their 90's who put real butter on everything and raised cows and ate red meat daily. Full fat everything.

They were farmers. Their active lifestyle likely kept them alive. If I die before 80 I will simply blame it on sitting in my office 8 hours a day and going home and sitting some more with only occasional exercise. Sure as fuck not going to blame it on steak.
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>>75260002
There is no correlation, it's just that the average american eats shit everyday.
That's why Italians live 4 years longer than burgers.
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>>75260984
>>75260992
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>>75261192

>The feel for the "weak vegan" meme

KEK
E
K

www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_avi
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>>75260002
Most vegans have a vague sense of health and count their meal macros and nutrition while also being physically active.

Their statistics for "meat eaters" could just be people who eat fast food all day.

Omnivores who count their macros and exercise are healthier and stronger than vegans, that's just a fact.
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Didnt some dumb bitch die in Everest because she wanted to prove vegans can do anything?
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>>75261411

*They Fell

fucking autocorrect
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Why would I want to live longer?
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>>75260847
This whole thing is very dangerous. You body needs meat, no matter how these shits deny it, its just this way, they eat tons of pills, and that already means you do something unnatural to your body, thus on the long run it'll backfire really hard.
You will be not only weak, but you'll often have headaches, feel extreme fatigue, and you'll even pass out, and since your body can't get resources from plants only it'll start to burn your muscles.
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>75260286
>People who dont regularly exercize are much more likely to develop heart disease and die much sooner.
Not true. Sedentary vegans have better arterial health than meat eating marathon runners.
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>>75260002
>Vegetarians and vegans are more observant of their diet than the average person
There's your reason right there for them being typically more healthy. If you were sane, you'd be observant and eat the flesh of beasts.

Much healthier.
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>>75261431
She was assassinated by right-wing extremist meateater conspiracy! Don't buy into their lies!
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>>75261187

>Liberal nu-male vegan

Kinda true, kinda not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvEJbpznCSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PJtrVC44fE
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Unless these studies take into account healthy meat eaters (people who prepare their own food, not people who eat at McDonald's) and said meat eaters who also are health conscious like vegans would generally be, this study is absolutely worthless.
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>>75260002
Faggot
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>>75260002
>wanting to live forever.
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>>75261411
>steroids and protein powder
FTFY.
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>>75260916
We eat meat.
We had an even bigger appetite for meat the further back you look
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>>75261406
our lifespan average is suppressed by black people killing each other
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>>75261614
Shit, it looks like #Imwithher now...
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>>75261093

Chimps are fearsome and brutal as fuck. They literally go to war with one another.
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>>75261383

>Some annecdote, therefore no problem!

o i am laffin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvz9w6NWJAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-W77eT0xMY
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>>75260002
This desu.
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>>75261253
Chimpanzees and most primates have large canines for display purposes, other wise the female would have them too. They're incidental predators but it's not their primary food source.
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>>75261816

Smoking is well established as being bad for you. What a false equivalency. Faggot.
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>>75260847
>organic meat
...As opposed to?
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>>75261573
>>75261603
>>75261639
>>75261378
>>75261314

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871675

Please get educated.
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>>75261967
USDA meat
Come on man, get with it
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>>75260002
It's all good I killed and ate a Vegan, I don't have to do it again for another 7 years.
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>>75261739

See >>75260970
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>>75260847
This. Grass fed free range niggas
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>>75260002
Yes snowflake you know better than mother nature, the only reason we evolved on a diet of animal proteins and healthy fats was because of the capitalist White patriarchy!

Enjoy watching your malnourished body degenerate as you shove carbs carbs carbs in to your face day after day. Your insulin sensitivity will be the 1st thing to go.
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>>75261967
>>75262080

>Organic is good because nature

It doesn't necessarily follow. also, some organic agriculture/crops are worse for the environment when "organic".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA4I-WRu_s0
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>>75261841
It pains me how beautiful she is. Personally, I consider her the most beautiful woman in the world and I've yet to see any women who've really challenged her title.
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>>75262145
Time magazine vs. youtuber

tough choice
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>>75262270
Ooooh anon-kun~~
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>>75261877
And that is how humans would eat if we lived at a chimpanzee level of development. Meat would be a useful supplement to a foraged diet of fruits/nuts/tubers/insects/whatever. We just got exceptionally good at killing things for their flesh.
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>it's another beta prey thread
We have eyes at the front of our heads like all mammalian predators you limped dicked B12-deficients
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>>75262022

>Low calorie diets of of the Vegan and Vegetarian type lower the risk of obesity related diseases.

This proves nothing except that it's easier to kill yourself by binging on Pizza and Doritos and pretty much impossible to binge on Broccoli.
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>>75260002
vegangains pls go
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>>75261411
Exception not the rule
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>>75261739
This. We have the short intestines of a omnivore who eats mostly animal products.
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>>75260237
fpbp
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>>75261584
>Not damaging your arteries because you can't push yourself due to lack of energy
>Thinking that's a good thing


And citation needed from a reputable, non vegetarianist or non veganist, scientist.

Here's an example of a shit source
>>75262022
This was likely written by biased fucks who can't into objective research. More reputability in sane nutritionist circles please.
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>>75260002
I have news for you. You are going to die. No amount of celery that you shove up your ass it going to change that.
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>>75260237
You obviously haven't been in a confined space with them before, they gas themselves
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>>75260671
>redpilled videos

Sorry, I prefer to get my medical knowledge from academia, not a couple meatheads on youtube that browse /fit/

Fact: there are necessary amino acids that are not found naturally in any plants
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>>75262505
>You are going to die

I'm afraid you are mistaken.
Pic related, it's me.
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>>75262317
>And that is how humans would eat if we lived at a chimpanzee level of development. Meat would be a useful supplement to a foraged diet of fruits/nuts/tubers/insects/whatever.
>We just got exceptionally good at growing stuff for their grains.

Fixed for accuracy.
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>>75260002
>IT MAKES U LIVE TEN YEARS LONGER
Who the fuck wants to live an extra ten years when you're already old and living on borrowed time?
That and a lot of time, old people have to be vegetarian because their bodies can't handle certain types of food. So basically, there's a variation between when old people die, wow!
It's totally not a fluke of statistics like how left handed people live longer.
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>>75262549
This. Hell there's one in particular that you literally can only get from red meat in any particular quantity.
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Vegans, vegetarians, halal and koshers kucks need to GTFO.
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Eating meat is unnatural. By becoming a vegetarian or vegan, you're living the natural, healthy lifestyle. All you have to do is take eight supplements a day.
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>>75262719
Fuck off mon frère.
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>>75261906

Ok, I'm gonna take the following statement you made:

> "I know old dudes in their 90's who put real butter on everything and raised cows and ate red meat daily. Full fat everything."

And I'm gonna focus on the objects you mentioned and see if they have negative consequences to the body and see if the smoking equivalent was false I.E. smoking is bad but red meat is not, therefore it is a false equivalent.

http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

WHO identified red meat (and processed meat) as carcinogenic. smoking is carcinogenic. seems like a pretty fair comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaIpaGSESO0

cholesterol is the main deciding factor in artherosclerosis I.E. heart problems. and read the sources if you can't stand vegan gains.
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>>75261584
>Using water in your car engine regularly results in much healthier tiers & gears than those of even petroleum using professionals
>Because you aren't going anywhere

I can't get over how stupid vegetable heads are.
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>>75261132
It's like this with vegans, gays, trannies, Muslims... Oh boy. Maybe they have to force it because most people realize they are stupid.
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>>75260847
>he fell for the organic meat meme
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>>75262266
>Organic is good because nature

Yes.
I eat gmo foods but if I had an organic choice of the same meat with competitive pricing I would choose organic 100% of the time
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>>75262549

Did you look at the sources they mentioned in the video. did you look through them. also, please tell me any amino acid that cannot be found in plants.
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>>75260286
Because it's not about any of those things. It's about egocentric validation of an eating disorder.
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>>75261411
This is how average vegan looks like.

Sure nigga.
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>>75262885
>Falling for the organic meme
Just as bad as being vegan.
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>>75261815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MiL8xylgbM
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>>75262785
Y'a mieux que Marine Le Pen, Starfoullah
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Reminder that most vegans grew up eating meat as children and teenagers, so they benefited from the nutrition from animals. Fuck vegans.
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>>75262022
I think even vegetarianism is dangerous, it can work, but veganism is plain retarded.
You don't need even sources for this, just try it out yourself. I guarantee you you'll feel like shit, because you are forcing your body to do something what it shoudln't. Well unless you are ready for injections and a mountain of pills of course, and visiting the hospital every 3 day.
Oh and have fun passing out randomly.

>>75262752
stop baiting
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>>75262790
>WHO identified red meat (and processed meat) as carcinogenic. smoking is carcinogenic. seems like a pretty fair comparison.
>(and processed meat)
Wow, it's almost like processed foods are fucking terrible for you :^)
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>>75262549
>BRAH BRAH HUMANS ARE HERBIVORES, JUST USE SUPPLEMENTS BRO, WHAT DO YOU MEAN A VEGAN WOMANS MILK DOES NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH NUTRITION TO HER BABY? DURR U BARBARIAN, ONLY BLUE-PILLS EAT MEAT, BE A WEAK PUSSY WHIPPED FAGGOT LIKE ME, WHO CARES THAT WE ARE APEX PREDATORS, NO BORDERS, MORE REFUGEES. BERNIE 2016

Every. Damn. Time.
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>>75260002
>>75260671
>>75261093
>>75261182
>>75261411
>>75261584
>>75261631
>>75262022
>veganism isn't for effeminate males, it just happens to appeal primarily to women
Are you going to implore me to sit down to pee next?
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>>75263081
That's Marion you degenerate animal eater.
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Correlation is not causation.
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>>75260002
>the majority if meat eaters eat processed foods
>vegans dont eat processed foods
The facts are irrefutable. Meat kills people.
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>>75260002
reminder that this is OP.

He's been lifting for over 8 years and can only bench 185. He's a complete curlbro faggot that flexes arms all the time.

>tfw your malnourished diet can only support growth in the smallest muscles of your body
>tfw all of your compound lifts are on the level of novice lifters
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Hello OP, I am a vegan (have been for about five years) and I see what you're trying to say but honestly don't bother. Meat-eaters never listen and are apparently unable to go without their burgers and steaks. I'm not the preachy type but the moment someone finds out about my diet everyone is chiming in with false statements and how meat is just soooooo tasty. I just keep it on the down-low and let them get on with it. I think the best way to become vegetarian/vegan is through your own choice and research. It's how I and a lot of other people I know did it. Some will see the light and some won't, and I've found that often the most surprising people will suddenly become vegetarian and it's such a nice feeling to see them so happy about it.
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Animals were put on the Earth for Humans to consume. Vegans are betafags.
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>>75262541
Underrated
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>>75263252
That's a green nigger.
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>>75260002
Nigger, I kill and carve my own meat.

Also,
>your
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>>75260002
Fuck off
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>>75260002

>people that actively think about what goes into their bodies live longer than people that generally don't

Wow. Amazing. Hows that vitamin B12 treating ya? Climbed any mountains lately?

Personally I only eat birds, fish, reptiles and insects. I can guarantee I will outlive any vegan alive today, even the newborn baby queers.
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>>75263252
Kek. This faggot can barely squat 225.
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>>75263115

Been plant-based vegan for 6 months, feeling bretty gud. don't just think we only eat vegetalbes. we eat fruits, legumes, grains, fats (like nuts, seeds, avocado, etc.), bread, tofu (inb4 GAYYY) and even seitan (mock meat, 100% vegan)
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>>75260407
unga bunga me thinks rockald trump bring back wheel making to best side of large puddle
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>>75263105
>when u disagree wit vegans and havnt told any1 in 10 minutes
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>>75261411
>Vegans stronk
>Vegans can do anything, watch me climb Mount Everest silly meat Eater
>Dies
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>>75263347


why
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>>75262973
Google it you stupid vegan fuck, there are actually several

I'm not spoonfeeding you
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>>75260002
>average taken from a number of 100 fit vegans and a 100 terminally ill meat-eaters
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>>75263055
You're third world af
You eat organic everyday, would you call your dinner a meme?

> - seeing as you probably couldn't afford it.. yeah I guess it would be a meme
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>>75263416
The average meat eater is pretty retarded.
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>>75260948
Gays already put enough meat in their mouth, thats why they're vegans.
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>>75261411
>vegan
>uses steroids that are made of animal hormones
topkek
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Vegans are mentally retarded. Not only do they refuse to eat meat, they also don't eat animal products like milk and eggs.
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>>75262690
After we got exceptionally good at killing stuff for meat, ya.
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>>75260992
>never been to in and out
How good is it senpai?
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>>75263158
Listen, humans are not born walking on two legs ok? Bipeds are unnatural and should start walking with the help of hands (walking on two legs was most likely invented by satan himself). Once a man pissed on an electrical output and got electrocuted and that is exactly the fault of the unnatural bipedalism, that should be a good enough argument. Also pissing while standing up is pretty much patriarchy, you don't want to be an oppressive shitlord, now do you?
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What do you call someone who only eats meat and wants to protect vegetal life ?
Other than retarded.
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>>75263128

Did you even read the source ffs

Processed meats are a GUARANTEED carcinogen (class 1) and red meat was SEPPARATELY considered as a PROBABLE carcinogen. and the sources are not biased, since the WHO is not advocating for vegetarianism here.

the other video i linked answers why we shoulnd't eat animals: due to risk of high cholesterol and its risks (atherosclerosis).

>LEL VEEGUN GAYNS

Read.The.Sources.Pls
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>>75262541
I can confirm. I tried this meme diet once and I was farting all the time.
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>>75263252

>Who is jon venus?
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>>75263433
He might not be very coherent but he's right. Organic is a nice idea and I understand it, but it's a meme. There is n9 official government regulation on wjat a food has to be or contain or not contain to be labeled as organic. Most of the things that food companies use as bullet points on organic meat products, for example things like "no antibiotocs" on chicken and no growth hormone on others, are actually already banned by federal law.
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>>75263660
free all the livestock into the wilds and see what happens
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Vegans tend to overstate the dangers of excessive meat consumption, and the ecological benefits we'd reap if the world transitioned to a vegetarian diet, where as omnivores tend to understate the dangers of meat consumption.

If you're a vegan or vegetarian because of moral ethics, or even health, cool, whatever. Do your thing.

Just don't insult me for doing something are species has done since the beginning of its existence.

Personally, even if it were true, I'd give up a few years to be able to enjoy meat, and other animal products.

Vociferous vegans are unbearable to be around. I don't want to be near anyone who spends a large portion of their time virtue signaling.
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>A FUCKING LEAF
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>>75260002
Veganism is retarded as well as most of the vegans.
Meat is great. If you feel sorry for the animals you are dumb. They were born to be meat. Excluding the meat from your ration will not save a single animal. They are dead anyway.
As for the health part - protein and vitamins from a natural source is essentual.
If you prefer to eat artifitually crafted vitamin pills made by shady corporations instead - at least don't yell about your NATURAL diet
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>>75263753
They die of starvation and from predators ?
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>>75263081
Damn kid, I'll be the first to claim the tongue
It doesn't get any fresher than that
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>>75263812
exactly
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>>75260002
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>>75263736
some fuarkin' cockmogler
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>>75263347
>I grew up on eating meat, but I'm now a vegan

every fucking single time
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Women eating veggies its meh

Men eating veggies it's straight faggotry and they should die
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>>75260002
sounds like some "facebook facts" that get reposted and repeated but no one ever checks their validity
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>>75263518
>>uses steroids that are made of animal hormones

I'm pretty sure they're processed from soybean oil.

>>75263578
It has more to do with irrigation and social structure.
Civilization = dams/irrigation canals + grains
Whole europe was overrun by neolithic farmers, so called hunter gathers are just cucks.
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>>75263812
I'm pretty sure that cows are such dumb fucks that they would actually die of thirst first.
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>>75263736
Wow, he has low body fat %, the only explanation is he's a vegan. You've convinced me, I am now #NoMeatButCock
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>>75260002

>confusing lifespan with quality of life

absolutely plebian
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>>75263408

I was also the "fuck vegans" type. I just decided to give it a try and honestly I see no reason to go back.

>>75263158

Yeah, no fucking shit women are gonna see slaugherhouse videos and stop eating meat because "MUH FEELS". They are the stupidest fucking kind of vegans and I wish they would die. They dont even eat properly, just eating oreos and fries and then get malnourished and blame it on veganism. fuck them.
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>>75260002
My grandma ate meat her whole life and she died at 83.
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>>75263753
>>75263812
This is what the fanatics at PETA actually want
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>>75263887
>MEAT IS TERRIBLE YOU'RE GONNA DIE
>VEGETABLES ARE GAY, YOU'RE A HOMO IF YOU EAT THEM

I'm having trouble finding much of a difference between you two.
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>>75260813
this
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>>75260002
>Vegetarians and vegans, sometimes more aware of what they eat and how much. Smaller demographic.
>Meat eaters are often gluttons (fat people). Larger demographic

I wonder why meat eaters looks worse.
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>>75263883

Well no fucking shit, no one even knew what the fuck veganism was until recently, it just started gaining notoriety. that's like saying "I was raised christian but i don't believe in God anymore"

>BUT U ATE MEAT BEFORE HAHAHAHA FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL VEGANS LEL
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>Be vegan
>Be against animal products
>Have to take supplements to be healthy
>All supplements are tested on animals
>Most beauty products and meds are tested on animals.
>Be a complete fucking hypocrite.

Fucking vegans just doing shit for attention.
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>>75263964
K, but let's not pretend our prairenigger cousins didn't hunt an entire continent to death. Or that our primative ancestors didn't get the intellect required to build civilization through the vastly superior nutrition provided by cooked meat.
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>>75264008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLrhvHFoSY4
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>>75260002
Well OP, food has a way better taste when you know that it once had a soul and suffered so you can eat it now.
I mean when we have taken our place as white masterrace again we should also eat jews and niggers as they are animals too but they can feel pain and fear way better then cows and this means they taste even better.
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>>75264041
Any man that's a vegan probably made that choice because "he" has above average estrogen levels, therefore the same kind of muh feels response as a woman.
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>>75263887
It's pretty dangerous for women unless they're eating a fuck load of veggies. My ex had to supplement iron or she'd pass out.
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>>75264226
well you said it yourself
kek
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>>75264100
Beta male
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>>75264269

>confusing vegan diets with vegan lifestyle
>Mexican intellectuals.jpg

Dios mio que tipo de estupidez cerebral, con razon mexico se ha convertido en el pais mas obeso del mundo, sigan comiendo tacos y escamoles, hijos de la gran puta

also

>TEN
>FEET
>HIGHER
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>>75260002
Quality over quantity.
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I'd rather die at age 50 enjoying steak and bacon and burgers and being happy rather than living miserably to 100 eating fucking plants.
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>>75264424
>rapidly declining testosterone levels due to malnutrition
>b-b-beta
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>>75264448
Tan chicano vas a ser papu?
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>>75264330

as opposed to reaching the conclusion that there is no necessary basis for killing animals for food when there are better nutritional options that are not animal derived.

yes. yes. muh feels
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>>75264498
but if thats all you eat you will probably be a miserable greasy mess from age 40-50
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>>75264532
Hey it's alright bettie, Meat it's only for alpha males

Keep figthing the good fight, yes?
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>>75260002
Long term veganism causes cancer and heart disease. Enjoy your genetic mutations
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>>75264532
You were probably low test to begin with.
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>>75264282
>K, but let's not pretend our prairenigger cousins didn't hunt an entire continent to death

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon
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>>75264574

De hecho soy colombiano estudianto en el exterior. Y si, la coca es vegana.

>MUH CHURRASCO
>inb4 "NIGGERS" "CULOMBIA" etc.
>Argentina
>White

:)
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>>75264609
Replace me a 500 Grams of chicken with veggie products at the same cost under a liveable wage in your country
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>>75264852
Congolombianooooooooooooooooo

mira como te atajas
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>>75260002
I don't case about Animals.
I went vegetarian to lose some weight I otherwise couldn't.
Also Hitler was a bigger motivation for me.
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>>75264795
What kind of moron eats an all meat diet and expects that to be health? A balanced diet includs meat, fats from animals and plant sources, vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts and seeds.

>vegans are gay
>therefore eating any vegetables makes you a faggot

lol
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>>75264736

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0x-8RB3eWk

that was massively disproven. and read the citations/sourcesin the description before saying "LEL YOUTUBER SO IT DOESNT COUNT"
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>>75260002
virtue ethics isn't a valid univeralizable ethical lense.
animals literally don't matter.
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>>75260002
>meat-eaters
>vegetarians
Define meat-eater, as the majority of people eat meat while just a small minority are vegetarians. Doubt it they are much better off than those who manage what they eat.
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>>75260002
Women live longer than men. I won't get a sex change either. You want to live longer, have you seen really old people, you want that?
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>>75265010
Nice strawman, dipshit. Learn to read IDs.
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>>75261411
Those weird bubbly looking tits and biceps are the product of steroid use

Which by the way, is derived from animal hormones.
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>>75264736
You just went full retard mate, never go full retard.
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>>75265224
I seem to have triggered you.
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>>75264887

estoy tratando de ayudarlos, coman mas vegetales por lo menos. entinedo que argentina es el pais de la carne, pero si van a caer victimas de ese meme, por lo menos coman mas verduras lel

>>75264858

Vital wheat gluten (Seitan). https://www.google.com/search?espv=2&q=500+grams+seitan+protein&oq=500+grams+seitan+protein&gs_l=serp.3...40286.41460.0.41858.8.7.0.0.0.0.247.471.2-2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..7.0.0.fpLNkKqTTwM

as opposed to chicken... http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/poultry-chicken-breast-500g-299110544?v2=false

not including the fact that chicken is injected with hormones, and fed antibiotics etc.
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>>75265056
I'm working so I don't care but
>Many vegetarians also struggle to get enough iron, vitamin D, vitamin B12 and calcium which are essential for health. One study found that vegetarians had approximately five percent lower bone-mineral density (BMD) than non-vegetarians.
Point is, there are pros and cons like eating meat. No point in denying yourself meat unless you have a medical condition
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>>75265481
>responded to the wrong person
>le triggered xD
We all make mistakes, just don't let it happen again.
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>>75265272
Yepp, he is using steroids.

On this stupid-ass topic: People eat whatever the fuck they want, even if it kills them. You drink and smoke, eat meat. All these can potentially poison and kill you in the long run. The main thing is not to fucking overdo it.

Read studies not half-baked asshats on youtube or on a bitch-ass feminist site.

Otherwise shut the fuck up and eat your shit. You live with the consequeces not I or anyone else.

Faggots this doesn't even belong on /pol/.
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>>75265525
>hurrrr out meat had hormones and antibiotics
>that's bad, even though it's been shown to have zero effect on humans who consume said meat

I guess you'd rather have pustules and cysts in your ground meat.
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>>75265620
>being this illiterate
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>>75265704
Here's your task. Screenshot where I had mentioned anything about people being faggots for not following an all meat diet. Any response that doesn't include said screenshot is an admission that you're an incompetent moron and flaming faggot. Bye, nigger.
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>>75261093
Chimps hunt and eat monkeys you colosall retard.
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>>75265985
>being this mad over 4chan posts
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>>75265652

You are right, antibiotics are not bad. the problem arises with superviruses created as a result of evolution. the problem with the agriculture industry is that it massively abuses antibiotics, leading to the potental rise in said superviruses

http://www.parentherald.com/articles/10892/20151007/superbug-virus-2015-cdc-warns-of-new-antibiotic-resistant-infection-an-emerging-threat.htm
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>>75266192
>u mad bro xD
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I'm vegan
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>>75266271
I'm guessing you'll lash out at your mother when she asks you to clean up your room later. Don't let frustrations from the internet pollute your personal life, son.
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>>75265569

On a poorly planned diet, yes. some vegans stick to fads or don't get their RDA because they're fucking idiots. diets like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7RhxVkj9Bw

are bretty gud, lots of legumes, grains, and veggies. plant-based milks are fortified and can provide B-12 and calcium.

also note that some vegans are fucking retarded and stick to fad vegan diets like the "potato" diet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi_2O5gyJ2c

Not gonna use a "no true scottsman" here, this girl in which Unnatural Vegan talks about IS vegan and IS following a vegan diet. it's just a retarded one.
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>>75266434
Don't talk to me like I'm your wife's son, cuck. Don't you have a bird feeder you should be eating from right about now?
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>>75263622
breddy gud. fries are lame in my honest opinion though
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>>75266323

>LEL UR A FAGIT EAT MEAT!! KEK YOU GOT KEKED BY FUKKKIN ANIMALS DIE OF MALNUTRITION OR SOMETHING

Welcome to /pol/. arguing for veganism is useless here.
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>>75266749
It's true though, you're literally getting cucked by animals. Your boyfriend is probably getting fucked by a rabbit as we speak.
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>>75261182
>nutritonfacts.org

Fuck off
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>>75260002
You're mistaking understanding for conscience. You can be entirely redpilled and still devoted to evil. Most boys are sociopaths in the modern age. You're also forgetting that this is nu/pol/, not /pol/. Redpills aren't a common commodity around here.
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>>75266659

>He thinks vegans only eat rabbit/bird food

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHJUzbcLH3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-AY7VUA4U0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w90AFRFx_qY

:)
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>>75266659
>I'll just keep posting memes and insult his masculinity, that'll hide the fact I'm seething with rage because of a discussion on the internet

Thanks for the brief amusement, Captain Ragehard
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>>75267010
Oh, they eat gratuitous amounts of sodium as well. We all know how healthy sodium is.

>>75267115
Why do you give yourself so much credit? Your wife needs to stop faking orgasms.
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>>75266848

>Letting animals live because you don't fucking want to eat them and have no desire to (I'm not even an ethical vegan, I just eat a vegan diet) is now being cucked.

>taking care of your health is now being cucked

Sure thing kidoo. sure thing.
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>>75267271
>he thinks vegetables and salt are bad for you
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>>75267271

well, I'm not gonna ask for a source on that cause it could be very well true. drink lots of water too, or am I a cuck for drinking muh 8 glasses (which is a meme ammount, I know)?
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>>75260286
The meat industry pollutes more than than the auto industry. Factory farms are a literal cancer to this earth.
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>>75267468

If it's not iodized, literally no point.

and yeah, sodium intake is a thing. specially as you get older, just food for thought.

and yeah, since when did vegetables become degenerate/cuck shit? God, /pol/ is fucking doomed at this point.
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>>75267582
>not drinking at least 1/2 oz for every pound of body weight
Enjoy your kidney failure. Unless you're 128 pounds, which wouldn't surprise me.
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>>75260002
My family is cattle ranchers. AMA.
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>>75260002
>A FUCKING LEAVE
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>>75267468
Sodium intake has a much higher impact on heart disease than meat, retard.

This is just antimeat propaganda. Humans need animal fat/meat to develop healthy brain matter.

Stop making shit up, it's a bad look.
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>>75267822
if you drink that will you die?
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>literally not one single argument against organic food ITT
>calling it a meme
Not an argument.
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>>75267704
The effects of a high salt intake is totally negligible on health, and the amount of iodized salt you'd have to consume to get anywhere near toxicity levels in humans is so high that you'd have to eat a barrel a day.
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>>75267921
I'm not anti-meat. I eat about 1lb of meat per day.

Sodium intake has virtually no effect on health, unless we're talking sodium deficiencies.
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Vegans are a massive fraud.
Ultimate blue pill
Meat 4 eva
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>>75266631
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi_2O5gyJ2c [Embed]

I want to fuck her mouth.
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>vegan food pyramid has supplements on it
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>>75267962
It would be extremely diarrhea-inducing.
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>>75268052
Organic food is a marketing scheme. The pesticides and fertilizers used in the US have been studied extensively, and there are no confirmed links to any health problems caused by the currently approved products that are in use by agriculture.

The disparity in nutrient levels in organically grown fruits and vegetables can be explained by farmers tending place greater importance on over-all yield, rather than nutrient density. This is not a problem, unless for some absurd reason you're limiting yourself to a ridiculously small amount of fruits and vegetables per day. In most cases the disparities can be corrected by simply taking another bite of whatever vegetable you're eating.

>being scared of salt is stupid
>insisting non-organic food is unhealthy is stupid
>not eating a wide variety of fruits and vegetables is stupid
>eating a meat only diet is stupid
>claiming hormones or antibiotics in meat have detrimental effects on human health is stupid
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>>75268227

I'm gonna need a source for that. Genuinely curious.

>>75268052

It's not really that there's something wrong with organic health-wise: it is much healthier against a shitty GM Organism/crop. against a well-made GM Organism/crop, organic organisms/crops can be just as good, if not lesser due to the improvements on the Genetic Modification.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NIgEgtOhlc

Unnatural Vegan video defending GMO. Also, organic crops/agriculture can create greater environmental impacts than GM. I know, I know, she's a vegan. but the same principle applies to both crops (vegan) and agriculture (non-vegan)
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>>75260002
Don't you have to get vitamin shots if you don't eat meat?
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>>75268891
Nope. Memes.
It's all memes.
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>>75260002
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
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I think that with more advances in neuroscience, we will need to reevaluate our meat consumption ethically. There will be am even stronger push for animal rights, and eventually our gov't will impose all of you to eat vegetarian diets or at least ban factory farms. So I hope you like beans and/or expensive meats..
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>>75268891

Vitamin shots? for what vitamin precisely? there is not one vitamin that I can think of. and no, B12 and D can be found in vegan sources.
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Our ancestors evolved billions of years to accommodate all sorts of food to ensure best survival and vegans now are fucking going against biological sense.
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>>75268860
I can't provide a source that says that, but a quick search of pubmed will show you data on "normal" (and by normal, I mean the upper to lower end of salt intake consumed by the average American, which most claim is far too high to begin with) intaket is wildly inconsistent. The only time you can find solid studies that confirm salt as a detriment to health is when there are deficiencies, or when the levels are so high that they're virtually never likely to appear in the real world,as no would would consume that amount. You'd be salting your food the point that it's extremely unpalatable, and virtually inedible.

In other words, if you'd have to be consuming something like an 1/8th pound of salt per day for it to have any measurable and confirmed, harmful effect on you. Nobody does this, so being worried about salt intake is totally unfounded and based on a few non-repeatable results found in presumably flawed studies.
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>>75269098

Hopefully the state doens't get involved in veganism. fuck the state.

There are advancements in lab-grown meats, and they will eventually be fully vegan (as they will be synthetic, and not animal derived whatsoever.) I think the free market's got this senpai. just give it time, more people will be vegan.
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>>75260002
fuck you its cunts like you that will lead us to extinction.

>for every animal you don't eat I will eat 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4jZ_BV4MQ4
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>>75269098
That's okay, because my family also produces corn, soy beans, and wheat.

Soy beans are high in estrogen, though. So a future bean world would be full of effeminate manlet traps, and the meat-eating elite would be more able to rule over the submissive populace.

Beef will always be an efficient source of protein and all 9 essential amino acids.
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>>75260002

>Implying 5-10 years is worth it for a shitty, meatless life
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>>75269375
soon they will be on an all bamboo diet
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>>75269641
>the estrogen in food sources will turn you into a woman meme

Stop perpetuating this ridiculous lie, you insecure faggots.
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>>75260583
>Ireland
>eating anything that isn't a potato

Stay classy
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OP is an idiot.

Cite your source for this stat.

Of course "vegans" will live longer than "meat eaters" if you dont control for diet and lifestyle.
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>>75260731
>mcdonald's doesn't have servers
>waitresses haven't looked this good in 50 years
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>>75269641

>He fell for the Soy=gay meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_UdM0RedwI

And before you comment on the person presenting the evidence, please at least look at the sources he cited.

>fuck you its cunts like you that will lead us to extinction.

as opposed to continuing the massive agriculture industry which is destroying our planet? Wh-

>checks flag

lel nvm
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>>75269828
Also, just a reminder. Soy contains plant estrogen, whereas beef contains even higher amounts of estrogen, mammalian estrogen, and virtually all of the meat we consume is harvested from female animals.
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>>75269929

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-W77eT0xMY

Video has sources.
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>>75260002
Who the fuck want to live longer in this shit filled place fuck all ya can and die early and happy with a bigmac in one had and a girl in the other.
Also why don't you look up all the poison you are eating that have been sprayed on that vegetarian food to keep the bugs from eating it.
I eat meat cause it taste good and if i go to long without it i crave it i eat vegetables cause i like them but i have never craved any of it
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>>75270056
don't you just poop out the estrogen you dont need?
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>>75270056
>and virtually all of the meat we consume is harvested from female animals.

Haha, I just realized I can troll feminists with this fact on twitter. This "proof" of patriarchal oppression will rile the fuck out of them.
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>>75269483
this is the ideal scenario
muh invisible hand etc etc. I'm unsure of how effecient this hand is, but it isn't like the govt is any better.
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>>75270194
I don't know the mechanics, but common sense would tell the soy meme is nonsense. Soy intake has risen year by year, yet infertility rates have dropped. It's nonsense.
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I don't want to live 6 to 10 years longer. I know I'll never be able to afford to retire, so what's the point?
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