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>According to a Breitbart report, a reporter representing Saudi Arabia is now claiming that the U.S. planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon to create the war on terror.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3130396/saudi-arabia-legal-expert-says-that-u-s-government-blew-up-the-twin-towers-on-911/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q5OdZBJpHU
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that shit hard as fuck
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>>75253444
>can't melt dur

>fails to understand how red hot metal works under high stress.
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>>75253444

>Building 7 not even hit by a plane
>still collapses at free fall speed

Only true idiots believe the official story at this point.
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>>75255060
It was the fires. Or something.
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>>75253444
>Saudi Arabia: We dindu nuffin
I swear the same people that claim how 9/11 was an inside job are also the exact same people that want us to believe how Islam is a religion of peace.
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>>75253853
>>75253444
Anybody who has done blacksmithing or basic chemistry or physics knows this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA
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>>75253444
>My twitter has become so powerful I can make my enemies tell the truth.
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Wtc 7 fell without any plane hitting it

>MUH DUST BLAST

You have to be an actual retard to believe that.
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>>75256517
TRUTHERS BTFO
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>>75255060
>almost every person with relevant credentials agrees with the official story
>people who also believe the moon landing is fake and that lizard people control the government tell us that the government was behind 9/11

lol
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>>75256875
>use fake moon landing and lizard people to criticize legitimate issues people have with the official narrative
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>>75253853
>>75256517
but then where did all this molten steal come from?
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>>75253444
the 9/11 commission report that predates the saudi tin foil claim actually pins it on them

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/12/911-commission-saudi-arabia-hijackers

it was even on the news in america because obama said he wouldnt open up any course for law suits against the saudi government despite their involvement in 9/11 because then their people would allegedly be able to sue america for stuff

basically they are in full damage control mode at this point. we could slap them with sanctions and we dont need their oil in western markets it conflicts with our desire to sell our own
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>>75257129
Office fires weakened the support structures, causing them to flex and give way.
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>>75256517
I agree it's pliability vs melting point jet fuel can make structural steel pliable here what I don't understand how did building seven collapse? And where the planes hit the towers why did the structure's both collapse and why didn't any of the steel at the bottom of the building hold strong a single point of massive damage where it struck that building shouldn't have collapsed it now before you say I'm autistic or some other dumb shit I build super structure for a living first in ironwork and structural steele and then in concrete formwork I have a background in how that building was built it was a fucking tank just doesn't make sense to me I wish it did I've always hoped and prayed it wasn't a false flag attack but the shit just doesn't add up
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>>75257189
Structures are made of steel. Steel doesn't melt because of jet fuel.
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>>75257189
At the bottom of the structure though? That makes no sense man
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>>75257150

USA needs that dirty mudslime oil, the only alternative is slav oil and that's not going to happen either. The USA can't produce enough oil to satisfy itself.
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>>75253444
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>>75257363
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>>75255060
>still collapses at free fall speed

This is my favorite one.
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>>75257295
Steele doesnt melt at the temps jet fuel can reach but it does become pliable easily in the 1400 to 2000 range
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>>75257295
Tell the blacksmiths of yesteryear that metal doesn't soften when heated.
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>>75257189
yes, no one should deny this, but it does not explain the reports of liquid steel.

the argument is jet fuel cannot create a temperature hot enough to turn steel from a solid into a liquid state.

not jet fuel cannot create a temperature hot enough to make steel malleable
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>>75257452
It definitely heats up. It doesn't heat up to pour like in that pic
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>>75257528
>>75257579
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>>75257532
See I missed that some how I didn't know there were reports of liquid steel
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>>75257189
Anything that falls will take the path of least resistance, and in this case, for both buildings that was in upon itself. This is impossible without simultaneously weakening the support structure, i.e. a planned implosion.

I can't believe people still just sit there and accept the bs almost 15 years later.
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>>75257295
The jet fuel soaked into carpet, furniture, the people in those floors, etc, etc.

The ifficial story is legit, but is omitting facts. Saudi and Israwl were bith involved in financing, training, planning, and executing the attack. The Clintons were also involved deeply, Hillary running for senator of NY was no coincidence.
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>>75257667
Wood or any furniture/carpets don't burn hotter than jet fuel so steel should still not pour like liquid.
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>>75257647
The office fires spread through the whole building, weakening the support structures, causing them to flex and make the whole building collapse in it's footprint.

Falling fire fell on building 7 and it collapsed within hours of this.

Go be a tinfoil somewhere else.
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>>75257532
>freedom slide
kek
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>>75257667

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html

>Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse
>Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in WTC 1 and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in the WTC towers did none of these things.
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>>75257778
>dust makes a building fall just as a plane that hits it does
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>>75253444
>Senate votes unanimously to declassify the rest of the WTC Commission Reports, which for years people have said implicates the Saudi government directly in aiding Al Qaeda's planning and execution of the attacks.
>WOAH GUYS! I MEAN MAYBE YOUR GOVERNMENT DID IT! J-JET FOWL CAN'T MELT S-STEEL BEANS! RIGHT GUYS? RIGHT? ... please don't stop buying our oil
Saudi Arabia is literally going "dindu nuffin" over the release of the report.


>>75255060
Building 7 was hit by several thousand tons of burning rubble when the North Tower collapsed. Firefighters at the scene reported that while the north side of Building 7 was relatively unharmed, there was massive structural damage on the south side, including a nearly 20 story long deep vertical gash exposing the structural supports.

There is no such thing as "free fall speed". There is terminal velocity, which is the speed at which the gravitational and drag forces acting on an object equalize, and there is a free fall acceleration, which is when any object falls freely under the acceleration of gravity.

Neither term applies in this case. All three buildings collapsed in a time shorter than the corresponding free fall time from the height of collapse..
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>>75257778
Oh shit it was hours later? Well that answers any doubts I had. Seriously. Was too young to know at the time and too uninterested to look that shit up when I was older. I just imagined it fell minutes after the others did. Truthers are actually retarded I guess.
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>>75257532
>reports

With tens of thousands of people involved you will always find someone who saw something.
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>>75257129
don't worry about it would the clintons or bushes ever lie to you ?
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>>75257647
>Anything that falls will take the path of least resistance

Explain why this is true.
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>>75257939
http://youtu.be/j4MjsVnasLA
This building burned all night and it didn't fall. The steel remained.
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>>75253444
>According to a Breitbart report
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>>75257647
That's exactly my point too structural steel is designed to be as strong as possible with very few weak points then incase in concrete reinforced with rear you can't tell me a building designed with to withstand a 9.0 earthquake completely collapsed because a 747 hit it
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>>75253444
It most certainly can. Charcoal can melt steel beams with air blown through it - ever heard of a blacksmith's forge? A smelter?. And what sort of winds are generated by rising column of air sucked in by a raging fire of Jet fuel.

Also looking at the color of a candle, you see that yellow is definitely hot enough to melt steel.

Jet fuel is more than capable of melting metal given enough air.
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>>75257667
Thats why there where people standing in the gap the explosives made in the wall to complete the second half of the b-thing ritual.

>atleast read up on WHY it was done.
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>>75257979
true, it could also have been the alloys used in the aircraft.

i just wanted to clear up the melt doesn't mean malleable
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Saudi Arabia is much more trustworthy
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>>75258132
Jet fuel burns between 800° and 1500°F which is not hot enough to melt steel, which melts at 2750°F. Give it all air in the world, it will not burn any hotter.
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>>75253444
>SA pulls the "nuhuh you did!" on America
Grow the fuck up mudslimes.
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>>75258056
I'd imagine the buildings would have collapsed in a less... Pancakes like fashion.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M

ITT
>Durr hurr, truthers sure are autistic, there's zero evidence of foul play by our own government, even though literally no aspect of that day adds up when going by the official story that's to this day questioned by the victim's family members and first responders.
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>>75253444

>there are people ITT right now who unironically don't believe in reptilians

In about twenty years you faggots are in for a big surprise.
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>>75258132
I don't think you understand how a forge works kek
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I thought Hulk Hogan did 911 tho.
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>>75257129

>Implying it cant be aluminium or something else
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>>75258268
But they arn't lying.

>you are now aware the Hijackers are Still alive some of them even work for United Emirates.

The only one that is dead was the one that said he was alive and got mossad'd.
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>>75258072
>This building burned all night and it didn't fall. The steel remained.
No it didn't.

Windsor had two structural features - a reinforced concrete "core" and steel trusses supporting the outer parts of the floors. All the steel supports above a reinforced technical floor about a third of the way down the building failed and collapsed in just a couple hours, leaving only the reinforced concrete core above that level behind. You can see the steel outer structure collapsing away in these shots.

WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7 were all-steel buildings. Steel core, steel frame, steel trusses, steel gridding. All of the actual support structure in those three buildings was completely steel.

There's a reason almost every building designed after the late 70's started using reinforced concrete.
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>>75258469
but hogan is a real american, he fights for the rights of every man.
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JET
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Jet fuel is simply kerosene

Guys, have you ever seen a crashed jet fire?


https://youtu.be/lksDISvCmNI

This is a 747 simply hitting the ground. That blaze is hot enough to flex literally any metal.

Besides, there air ducting from the bottom of the buildings made the place heat up like an oven.
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>>75258552
YES GOYM

20 MUSLIMS WITH BOXCUTTERS

LITERALLY BTFO

NORAD, ALLEGEDLY THE BEST ARMED MIL DIRECTION OF THE WORLD

*here's your pay, shill*
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>I didn't know g-guise I swear
>look I was reading stories to little american children while the evil Mossa-I mean arabs fucked our shit up.
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>>75258552
Are you fucking retarded? The leftover was steel.
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>>75258552
Wrong wtc all buildings had a reinforced concrete core
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Welp, for 15 years burgers defending obvious gov involment in those attacks.
They have guns literally in every family, and not even 1 rifle per man. And they're still to cucked to go against the gov.
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>>75258769
>>75258983

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W6LdB24-wU
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>>75258983
You are in no place to talk about being cucked by the government kek
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Do i have to post it again retards 100 % proof that the wtc went down because of damage
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>>75258252
http://www.instructables.com/id/Waste-Oil-Forge-and-Foundry/

( Click show all steps )

In an enclosed area such as a burning skyscraper, that insulates and keeps the heat in, the metal will melt.
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>>75259276
The next line of attack in your dossier is pyroclastic clouds.
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>>75259276
Those are just falling embers from office fires.
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>>75257778
In the history of building fires, not a single one ever collapsed, except for that day where 3 of them did.

>Falling fire fell
no you just sound retarded

que the gif of building 7 compared to a planned implosion. Watch as the building completely looses its structurally integrity in an instant, and uniformly falls in on itself. Are you really that dense?
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>>75258440
see >>75259288
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Obligatory 911 in 5 minutes by James Corbett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLXyB5GtfBU
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>>75257129
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>>75259402
>Falling fire fell
>no you just sound retarded

I don't see anything wrong with those words.
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>>75258056
So you want me to explain gravity to you? Its a law of nature, the same applies to water and electricity. Come on now...
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>>75259443
A building is not a forge the effect is no where near the same find whatever you need to suit your reality but a building is a not a fucking forge there have been many sky scrapers catch fire they didn't collapse
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You are now aware the same people that "debunk" 911 conspiracies are the same people that reffer to the JFK assassination as "some video of a guy shooting a pumpkin"
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>>75256517

So explain how that would cause the foundation below the fire to collapse? How does the strongest part of the building (the bottom) collapse from a fire 80 floors above?
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>>75259495
>>75259276

here 200% proof now
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>>75259662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1zED8dy63w
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>>75259633
But all that jet fuel is the difference.
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>>75259495
>stealbeam
jesus fucking christ.
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1:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nL10C7FSbE
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>>75255060
>freefall speed meme
B8/10
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>>75259662
>>75259771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gC4T6v6Rc8
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>>75257667
>The jet fuel soaked into carpet, furniture, the people in those floors, etc, etc

So the jet fuel was not burned in the terrific explosion from the jet hitting the building? It just stayed in a liquid state as to soak everything despite fire raging all around it.

Why are do we bother?
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>>75259771

3 does not sound like controlled demolition you need way more then that , it was most likely the elevators crashing down
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>>75259969
Elevators don't explode when they crash idiot.

Life is not a fucking michael bay movie.
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Titanic was an Iceberg job.
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>>75253444
The fires were just too intense, It's why Kerosene is banned now.
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>>75260041

but it can sound like that idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMkJmnyDuQ
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>>75259022
>>75258852
>>75258769
See, these fuckers get it. I have no idea why people still believe the official story. Hell, there were pools of MOLTEN steel found at ground zero MONTHS after September. How the fuck were there fires that hot, let alone underground that long after the day? That's some crazy ass jet fuel and office furniture that can burn like that without having access to oxygen. Hey, you know what burns white smoke hot enough to melt steel and doesn't need its own source of oxygen? THERMITE.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdJRXuIBheM
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>>75259791
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>>75260432

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyyS6NzYTBA
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>>75260432
the b-thing

israeli '"students'"
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>>75253444

>I would rather believe goatfucking Muslims than my own goverment
>Thats what redpilled niggers really believe
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>>75257363
Yes we can we don't because bankers wanted the dollar as the global reserve currency
Prudhoe Bay Alaska
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvoSuRXsklQ
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>>75258879
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Tower_(Madrid)
>with a central core of reinforced concrete that resisted the high temperatures of the fire without collapsing.
>Around midnight, on Saturday, February 12, 2005, a fire was detected on the 21st floor. The fire spread quickly throughout the entire building, leading to the collapse of the outermost, steel parts of the upper floors
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>>75260662
MEANING A FEW PIECES AT THE TOP FELL OFF NOT THE WHOLE FUCKING STRUCTURE IDIOT.
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>>75260043
Not knowing the truth...
http://theunredacted.com/titanic-conspiracy-the-ship-that-never-sank/
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>>75258932
No, they weren't. They were all steel beam, steel truss, steel grid designs. The North and South towers were a steel tube-in-tube design with dense steel supports holding up the core of the building, a steel outer frame where the exterior walls and aluminum facade were mounted, and steel trusses stretched between them, holding up concrete slaps for the flooring.
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I don't know how many times I have to say this, but I will say it again.

If you believe that 9/11 was an "inside job"; if you believe that the collapse of the towers was the result of anything other than the damage done by the planes and the fire that came after, you're a moron.
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>>75259787
So the jet fuel stayed in liquid form and got all over the building and then some came off the other two and hit building 7
Do you guys really think this shit?
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>>75260915

Next Slide: the t-rex cunt piracy.
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>>75260925
OH SO WE JUST HAVE TO IGNORE THAT THERE WHERE PEOPLE IN THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE IT WAS APPARANTLY BURNING SO HOT TO MELT STEEL ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APPrKNskn7Y
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>>75253444

Lambright here.

You all realized the day the truth comes out is the day of the revolution.

What I mean is that.

The day the American Public knows that a 3rd building fell and that controlled demolitions were done and that the FBI suppressed and that the CIA and Mossad planted the explosives is the day of the Revolution.


What can we do in the mean time.

Boycott everything Israel.
Boycott everything Goldman Sachs

Prepare for a revolution.
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>>75261039
>t-rex cunt piracy.
Wait do you not know about the Dinosaur Hoax?

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/09/dinosaur-hoax-dinosaurs-never-existed.html
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>>75260925

You can say it all you want, you're the fucking Moron.
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>>75260762
Yeah... all the steel bits fell and all the reinforced concrete bits didn't.

That's my point.

Steel is shit when it comes to fire damage. All you've got is a thin layer of spray-on insulation and the moment that gets blasted off or deteriorates the whole support becomes vulnerable. Most structural-grade steel loses between 25-35% of its effective yield strength at just half its melting point.


Almost no one builds all-steel buildings anymore, and certainly not all-steel skyscrapers.
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>>75261176

It doesn't have to MELT steel, it simply has to weaken it.

Speaking of which... here's a video of jet fuel melting steel beams:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2TMVDYpp2Q
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>>75257899
>comparing tube-frame structures to shear frame or frame with outrigger structures that are nowhere near as tall and burned without massive kinetic impacts damaging the integrity of the exterior tube-frame

Conspiracy theorists need to take an engineering class.
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>>75258659
>jet fuel
>shortly after take off
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>>75258511
This.
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>>75257532
>all those burger stands
you know how to make me smile
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How to dismiss every truther who claims
>It was da BOMBS guys

with only ONE webm

WEBM rleated

I saw people claim it was a implosion bomb :^)
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>>75260186
> pools of molten steel at ground zero """months""" after 9/11
> believing this

You are a special retard, aren't you
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>>75261318
Yeah It's shit, no one uses steel any more since Kerosene was discovered. Also US engineers never built with any redundancy as it was just to damned expensive, remove one bolt and Kaplunk, game over dude.
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>>75261225
>Boycott everything Israel.
>Boycott everything Goldman Sachs
Pretty impossible at this point desu. They control too much.
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You guys are really shit at convincing people
>your handlers should fire you.

>>75261318
Except that you are incorrect and your own arguements suggests this.
>you keep changing your point.

>>75261466
see
>>75259813

>>75260171
Yeah but it can't look like one.
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>>75261621

Exactly. I was looking for this video earlier but couldn't find it.
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>>75260432
> buying into this
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>>75261812
>>75261902


This is a good video too.
https://youtu.be/gYSV2OxAvZE
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>>75257289
U r rong cuz conspiracy theriz r bad did this make u think?
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>>75261644
The longest lasting naturally aspirated construction fires in our planets history.
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Passing of jennings.jpg

The only formal announcement of his death was a single announcement at his work place that stated that "regret[ted] to report the passing of ... Barry Jennings on 19 August, 2008." No cause of death was given, no autopsy or death certificate has even been released, and no witnesses to his death have come forward. His family disappeared at the same time. Two days after his death, the release of the NIST Final Report on the collapse of WTC7 claimed that there were no witnesses to explosions in building 7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XOK-r80nr8
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>>75256875
>everyone with "relevant credentials" is a government shill or paid off by government, because those with opposing viewpoints aren't let in due to "peer review" censorship.
>they agree with official story.
>whoopity doo
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>>75256318
>It was the fires. Or something.
thats some good argument, or something.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFuWlLP0jz8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8u-pjN_rA8

>>75262324
except architects engineers demolition teams and scientists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYUYya6bPGw
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>>75261781
>Except that you are incorrect and your own arguements suggests this.
>you keep changing your point.
My point hasn't changed. Reinforced concrete is a better, safer building material than doing a building all in steel.

The steel parts of Windsor collapsed due to fire damage. The steel parts of the WTC buildings also collapsed due to fire damage. The WTC didn't have the reinforced concrete core or technical floors that Windsor had, which is why Windsor's collapse was only partial and the WTCs collapses were total.


Try to follow the conversation, Bruce.
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>>75260631

based trump said just yesterday he wants to bring back the keystone oil pipeline
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>>75262484
Hey Fuck Head The Image I linked Showed a Standing Building with steel attached.

>Try to not talk so much shit.
>>75260762
WTC had more asbestos than Windsor had Concrete and and lets not forget It had its own Central Suport Collumn Layered with Concrete and Asbestos.

Shit for brains.

Seriously you should be fired you are just helping the truthers not covering shit up
>Handlers put a bullet in this pricks head.
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and because you are a dumb fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEIcYDDBgZs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2A8VMg_B64
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>>75258983
>watches rt
>jeez the americans are cucked!
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>>75262733
that makes sense. people belive airplanes are make out of heavy metals. but the fuselage is made out of light metals that bend very easy. what would happen on the crash would be like an epty can against the wall.
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>>75260917
I stand corrected it was steel sry for the mix up for some reason I remember yrs ago reading that they were concrete cores and most skyscrapers being built in the 60's and 70's were using reinforced concrete cores but I looked and your right they were steel
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>>75259276
Truthers BTFO as per usual.
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>>75263238
burgers the point is: an airplaine could never get inside a building like the tween towers. its basice material resistence. check with an engineer and get back.
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>>75256318
top kek
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>>75261621
DELET THIS EVERYTHING MUST BE A CONSPIRACY
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>>75263425
Wtf are you talking about the plane took out the outer columns dumb fuck..it wasn't enough to take the building down though the fire and other contributing factors might have though such as the clips used to hold the floor joist
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WHY DIDNT WE LISTEN?
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>>75262619
>Hey Fuck Head The Image I linked Showed a Standing Building with steel attached.
Yes, melted and collapsed steel surrounding a reinforced concrete core.

Look at the picture - most of the outer shell is just fucking gone, but the reinforced concrete core remains.

The consensus of the investigation into the collapse was that the if it weren't for the reinforced concrete technical floor, the whole steel exterior would have gone.


The WTC core was steel, not reinforced concrete, and I dare you to find a single credible source - blueprints, architectural articles, engineering reports, etc - that says otherwise.
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>>75262619
7 iron, concrete and asbestos towers? 2 aluminum airliners and some kerosene?

Of course the complex needed to be removed, but along with every Constitution in the west? Obviously the world is running down and TPTB were simply taking advantage of that.
The micronukes in the basements is the most plausible theory implying an industrial military banking theocratic coup. Looking no further than the Vatican and Jesuits withe their minion Masons in hindsight.
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>>75263788
thats the point. in theory it could never pass through the outer columns. its just not possible.
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>>75261644
https://youtu.be/8DOnAn_PX6M?t=4h6m51s

Here, you fucking moron. Do a little research before dismissing shit that you don't want to even consider.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Laaq44SDgg
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>>75263977
>>75261644
If you embed rather than following the link, start at 4:06:50
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>>75253444
Jet Fuel (and oxygen) can melt steam beams, but can't professionally demolish buildings.
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>>75257289
Ever hear of sentence structure? Not a Grammer Natzi here, but damn dude!
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>>75264064
steel, not steam -.-
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>>75259276
I've never seen this webm before. Could a controlled demolition do something like that? Like a small one on the inside of the supports?
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>>75261621
this senpai

for the truthers with nigger-level intelligence:

>take a piece of plastic straw
>grab a lightweight object, e.g. your mouse
>place it on top of the straw, loaded along its long axis
>notice how it doesn't collapse on itself?
>now apply some push sideways to the middle of the straw

this is called a second-order effect. the same material/element cannot support the same load if you introduce eccentricities into the load path, i.e. by shifting the middle of the straw slightly away from the direct load path of the mouse.

>b-but what pushed the steel memes sideways to allow that to happen?

there is a thing called 'radius of gyration' considered in every steel design: this is the reason why you can't have columns unbraced. when you compress a material along its long axis, it wants to push its own material out of the way (sideways), this is called buckling.

in simple truther words:
pushy pushy make bendy ooga booga bendy
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>>75253853

>fails to understand how heat sinks work
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I think you have to be dumb to believe the planes arent the reason for the buildings to collapse, for me its evident.

isnt the really weird thing the 'plane' which hit the pentagon ?
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>>75255060
what do you think is more likely, that the building collapsed to other circumstances or that they just decided "eh fuck it, lets collapse it for no apparent reason" and risk it looking suspicious
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>>75264103
You feel better?
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>>75264308
Your Saudi overlords announced they would capture 4 planes and hit WTC7, but they decided to troll you.
Amerifats were too amerifat to adapt to the new plan and blew up 7 anyways.
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>>75259495
Yeah, that experiment used enough fuel to fill SIX 747s.
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>>75256517
>find a job
He's literally addressing /pol/ and doesn't even know it.
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>>75264225
>common core kid thinks he knows heat transfer
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>>75264118
it was so hot no man could place thermite at that time . If seems highly impauslible that the plane crashed and they planned exacly where it crashed. And placed the thermite where the weakest structure would be
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This will only help Trump. So let the retarded Saudis go through with this.
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>>75261621
>can literally see the explosions prior to collapse
nice video
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>>75259540
You said:
>Anything that falls will take the path of least resistance

Your explanation is "gravity"? Gravity exerts a force on mass in a particular direction. It exerts this force regardless of resistance. Your premise is bunk.
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>>75264259

>Jet fuel vaporises entire skyscapers in an hour and half even after most of it explodes on impact

>Doesn't melt pentagon computers or random pieces of paper right next to impact hole


Yeah the pentagons the only problem here.
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Heh, checkmate
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ITT: SCIENCE BITCH
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>>75264894
why do redditors religiously not believe in ANY conspiracies at all
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>>75258511
You ever work with molten aluminum?

It cools VERY fast. (that's why it's such a popular metal for heat sinks!)
That color, on aluminum, is more anf 800C, but less than 1000C in temp.

Here's a video of a man heating aluminum up to 900C:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30OVAvg1aGQ&feature=channel_page

He pours it out and in under 2 seconds, it turns SILVER.
The molten metal falling out of the WTC tower stayed cherry red during its entire descent.

There is video documentation of this.
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>>75261687
>no one uses steel any more since Kerosene was discovered.

Can't tell if you're simply being Australian or not. Kerosene lamps were ubiquitous before electric light.
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>spend 6 years to become demolition contractor
>months of careful planning with the demolition master, architects and other professionals
>extensive preperation, like drilling holes in just the right places and putting the just right amount of explosive in
Why bother when you could just randomly ignite a few barrels of jet fuel anywhere and get the same result.
Demolition craft BTFO and on suicide watch.
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>>75256747
Why is nobody praising this gypsy? He's factually correct.
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>>75265198
Its just dumb as shit, i used to be a truther but after a decade iam going with the plane story, that america had anything to do with it? , they covered it up probably

not even redditor
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>>75265198
>the allies we the good guys fighting against comic book evil
>the government can't lie to us because it's wrong and good guys do no wrong
>the god of the jews will punish me if I don't buy the new iPhone
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>>75257939
Damn this nigga smart
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>>75265255

humz good point guess like i am a cruz misslile again
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>>75257647
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_%28structure%29

The weight of the towers were supported by the exterior frame. The buildings were essentially tubes with the floors slung from the sides. The path of least resistance WAS towards the centre.
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>>75253853
Red hot metal is actually still durable as fuck.

Also, if it DID melt and the beams couldn't support the weight, wouldn't that shit fly all over the place? Like you have houses 100 feet away that received almost no damage. Did you see a tower falling?
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>>75265255
>You ever work with molten aluminum?
>It cools VERY fast. (that's why it's such a popular metal for heat sinks!)

Wut. Copper has better thermal properties. Aluminum is used because it's cheaper, lighter, and you can extrude it.
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>>75264621
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Building 7, untouched by the hijacked airplanes, imploded in the exact manner of a professionally engineered demolition - straight down, and with scientific precision into a compact pile of rubble, barely damaging any of the surrounding buildings.

Gonna pay for these crimes someday.
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>>75265968
Copper has way more heat capacity which means cools slower, despite having twice the heat conductivity.
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>>75256517
Complete invalid test conditions, +300 over top end of jet fuel, closed consistent heating from furnace not a wild fire within a building + there is nothing to say that the 2nd piece was a different make than the first, utter horseshit made by a man who doesn't know how actual scientific experimentation is done.

>hurr I'll make my own conditions and overshoot the temperature claimed, DEBUNKED!
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So where is the lost video of the Jew rabbis dancing on the rubble after the towers fell?
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Dear America

It's been almost 15 years since 9/11, nobody cares about your shitty towers anymore. It's time to forget the past and move on.

t. Rest of the world
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>>75263968
I always wondered about that, knowing how fragile planes are
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>>75266172
It's a heatsink. The copper is a pathway, not a source. it dissipates heat more quickly.

Also, Aluminum has a way higher specific heat than copper. When volumes are equal, copper has a moderately higher thermal capacity due to it's higher density.
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been years since i've posted this on /pol/. it's about time y'all niggas get reminded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK6VLFdWJ4I
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>>75266849
I thought we were talking molten metals, in which case they are a heat source, in respect to their environment.
Copper stores way more heat than Aluminium in the same Volume, so it takes longer to cool off, no matter how high the heat conductivity is as the limiting factor here is the transfer from metal to air.
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>>75264652
>If you can explain it, it's the right answer
Checkm8
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>>75267284
Ahh, we're at crossed purposes. I was responding to his heatsink comment. I can't fault anything you've said when considering molten metals.
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https://youtu.be/xrnx33xoH64
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>>75257129
Urinal cakes
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>>75253444
> USA initiated most of the war.
> Cucked mexico until they lost their shit
> economical war against japan until attack on pearl harbor
> financed Hitler with money
> false flag attack in tonkin
> started wars because of lies.

holy shit, USA is literally a sociopath.
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>>75258552
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>>75264894
i love how people point to chemtrails as if this somehow debunks all conspiracy theories.

i love it even more knowing about operation LAC, which proves that it has been done before, and that tests similar to LAC have caused the death of americans in st louis around the same time.

but, of course, this will never be brought up by people who laugh at "truthers"

right?
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>>75253444
HABBENING
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>>75266730
Enjoying your sand niggers much?
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>>75253444
>jet fuel

It's only paraffin. Not thermite, magnesium ribbon or sodium metal.
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>>75259495
please see post >>75257532
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>>75265879
It looses strength when you warm it up - it becomes bendable. That's what blacksmithing is all about.

None of them probably came close to actually melting. They broke, and the whole building over it came crashing down on the floor under it. Then those beams collapsed and you had a domino effect all the way down.

Why would anything fly all over the place? Gravity works one way and it collapsed from the plane impact downwards one floor at the time.
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>>75270503
First Interstate was kept relatively contained by firefighting teams.

Windsor's already explained in this thread.

The Beijing Cultural Center and Chechen hotel were both built almost 40 years after the WTC complex. They were also both built after the NIST released its final reports on the collapses of the towers. Arup - the engineering firm that designed the Beijing building even touted design improvements based on the NIST's recommendations in their literature.
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>>75272284
Things would fly all over the place because that's what they do at every other building collapse that is not controlled.
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>>75259276
Looks like sparks to me
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>>75272780
You mean when they collapse at the bottom?

When it starts high up like at WTC much of the falling energy is used for overcoming the supporting beams beneath it. Things spread out only when it meets something that won't give - like the ground.

That was deep down in a basement in WTC's case.
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>>75266730
MIDF please go
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the towers turned to microscopic dust and there was practically no rubble. how does that happen IRL?
Im not even sure that planes hit the towers
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>>75257579

Did you analyze that molten metal yourself?

What makes you think its steel and not another metal.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2TMVDYpp2Q&spfreload=10
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>>75274392
>there was practically no rubble
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>>75257150
>We dont need saudi oil
Petro dollar faggot, our money is backed by their oil
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>>75274574
erm.. there should have been nearly 10 million tonnes or something.
I think we can all agree that the entirety of the two towers in a heap is what was was observed. no where close.
nice photo of 'some' rubble though Lel
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>>75274795
>was not observed
sorry, my bad
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>conspiracy sites pulling shit out of their asses to be relevant and get add revenue

I was originally just gonna argue its nothing but damage control by the Saudi's who are very close to being officially implicated in the attacks, but its just a bunch of mentally ill morons trying to make money off of retards that believe anything they read on the internet
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>>75257965
>>75257778

entire structures of buildings do not weaken because of a fire, even if it was hours.
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>>75257778
trying this hard
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>>75272305
shills.... shills everywhere....
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>>75274795
So give us an estimate.
Given the amount of tower material, and the depth of the basement parking area beneath, how large a visible pile of rubble should we expect?
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>>75257939
Fuck off shill


>NIST determined that diesel fuel did not play an important role, nor did the structural damage from the collapse of the Twin Towers or the transfer elements (trusses, girders, and cantilever overhangs).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

NIST says the damage from WTC 1 and 2 had nothing to do with it. Nice fancy words but you're full of shit.
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