Hey pol, three of my good friends from college are pretty staunch Ancaps. They like trump, want to vote libertarian but hate GayJo (they like McAfee better). Can I convince them to vote Trump or are they a lost cause?
>>75200986
Trump is pretty authoritarian when it comes down to it, not to mention a corporatist. Ancaps don't have much reason to vote Trump unless they hate immigrants.
>>75200986
Tell them Trump is the perfect stepping stone to getting an actually libertarian/third party candidate to actually win an election in the future, otherwise they're just throwing their votes away.
>>75201165
so to speak
>libertarians of trump
"""""Libertarians"""""
>>75201343
>throwing their vote away
t. Every republican for the last ~50 years
>>75200986
Demographics. A libertarian will never be able to win in the future if Hispanics that only vote for more government continuously come into the country.
>>75200986
Tell them the libertarian party is libertarian in name only now
They're making a grab for political power and sacrificing libertarian values to do so
The liberal left has left a vacuum from going to far left and libertarians look like they're gunning for it
If they're opposed to closing the borders because of the NAP ask them if not letting people into their house constitutes an initiation of force.
The initiation of force is from those not willing to obey the owners laws.
The owners on a national level are the citizenry. And if they have no ownership over their country, from whom do you derive citizenry from, and from whom does the government now derive it's authority? The people of the world? It's absurd.
>>75200986
lol McAfee? If there's one candidate with less substance than Trump it's gotta be McAfee.
Voting Libertarian definitely is not 'throwing the vote away'. If Libertarian gets 5% this year, they'll get Federal funding next election and we can finally stop this shit-show of a two-party system.
>>75200986
Show them this
>>75203557
Wrong one, I mean this one
>>75203152
>implying Libertarians can win after 11 million illegals get citizenship
>>75203642
/thread
>>75203823
The Latino share of New Mexico’s population grew from 38.2% in 1990, to 42.1% in 2000, to 47.3% (or 986,553 people) in 2013.
Guess who got elected as governor in 1994, and again in 1998.
Donald Trump will bring prosperity back to America. We will all be rich again, just like it use to be!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaOKb1IXJpo
The problem with Libretarians is that it's all talk with them. We get it you guys have the greatest utopia floating around in your head.
Reality: America is way too entrenched in corporatism to magically fix everything in a short time. What exactly is the Libretarian action plan to ween America off its current fuckery?
Trump wanting to take power from the fed and give it to states is a good start. He also has a good track record to back up being able to make at least that much happen.
Ask if they have anything substance to offer other than complaining about how no one is the perfect candidate for them.
>>75204225
Shhh let the children believe that nazism and free markets are compatible. As a mexican american I gave up trying to convince pol that their racist ideas are incompatible with capitalism, even in argument in which i state im for free market capitalism their cognitive dissonance will still make them call me a socialist or "liberal"
I'm an ancap and I think Trump is the best hope for America.
Don't get me wrong. I think there should be no government, but there is something worse than government.
Leftists.
If leftists move from the US (or preferably kill themselves) that is worth it alone to vote for Trump.
The one that don't will at least go to sleep with tear soaked pillows.
>>75200986
What state are you in? If it's not a swing state, who cares? Don't waste your time evangelizing for Trump if he has no hope of losing (or winning for that matter).
>>75204225
Ah yes Gary "Open Borders" Johnson, what a fucking surprise he got elected in New Mexico.
With anti-gun, anti-freedom of association, and debt and fraud stories hitting GJ this week I think his shot for the nomination is much lower.
McAfee and Petersen will force a 2-3 ballot minimum. With McAfee hating Johnson and having a good relationship with Austin Petersen I think 4th round if McAfee gets knocked out he will endorse AP and will pull off a huge upset.
Just face it, we'll have the best shot ever at
1) Causing all hell to break lose in the electoral system (which is why people supported trump on /pol/ at the start)
2) Best shot at electing someone like modern day Jefferson
3) Cause both parties next election to push for more passionate pro-constitution candidates
>>75205526
His more libertarian that Chump so what you bitching about, free markets isnt nationalism you dumb fuck
>>75205602
>anti freedom of association
Another racist spreading his cancer to libertarianism, how long are we gonna let them smear shit on our ideas
>>75205873
Btw im calling >>75205602 a racist not GJ
I guess none of you care about drug rights then? Neither Hillary nor Trump gets it. We need a 28th amendment affirming our right to own and consume any substance we prefer.
>>75205738
Ah yes the Mexican supports open borders because he's "Libertarian"
>>75206010
>>75205873
Using government force to FORCE a pastor to marry a gay couple, or for a baker to bake a gay cake is 100% against the principals of libertarianism.
We should boycott any company we disagree with, but never use government force to do our will.
>>75205602
>thinking this autist has a chance at getting any votes in the general election
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VuyHvaqd3w
>>75206218
>cantwell
Nice to see you in this thread Chile. I take it you don't know the context of that video, who cantwell is, what his shtick is etc.
TL;DR is he was pro-liberty but retracted his beliefs and turned fascist. Got nudes of a girl and started spreading them around. He's /b/ tier nigger who only can do ad-homs and mute people.
I question how you would react if your wife had a slime ball like that doing something to her.
>>75200986
Gary Johnson was forgotten the fucking same day.
>>75206668
I wouldn't call his radio show, and then act like a fucking moron.
>>75200986
TRUMP NET WORTH 10 BIL
GARY JOHNSON NET WORTH idk i couldn't find it.
>>75206171
Always using muh non aggresion shit to sneak in your racist backwards views. Next you will say we shoukd have boycotted cotton farms with slave workers instead of using force to ban them
>>75206826
>muh non aggression
>next sentence claims I support slavery
>>75206099
Im an American citizen so Chump cant do shit to me its not about race its about economics and Chumps plan is anti capitalist on all levels
>>75206952
Youre racist and homophobic, admit it
>>75206748
https://youtu.be/dKYKpSQRB5w?t=27m32s
>>75205738
If race was in the market, spics would be the last to be sold.
>>75200986
>Libertarians to Trump
Libertarians are a crowd of idiots.
A vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Clinton. You only make the general public hate your party by harming the presidential race.
>>75202417
And it's true. Ask Ralph Nader supporters.
>failed to get their candidate on the debate stage
>got Bush as their President
>>75206774
I can see nipple
:DDDDDDDD
>>75207241
Good. Hillary would be my second choice, after Gary Johnson. Anyway, getting a third party to win is a long-term strategy, it's not going to happen this election, but if we vote our conscience this time, it may happen next election, or the election after.
>>75207179
Oh look its that retard that you "libertarians" love to appeal to because hey the majority of the public only understands us vs them politics right.
>>75200986
Ask them if, given only the choice, would they rather Trump or Hillary. Then remind them that, at the end of voting day, the winner WILL be either Trump or Hillary.
>>75200986
Tell them horror stories about Hillary, they'll fall in line
>>75205526
Gary "Gun Control" Johnson
>>75207404
>at the end of voting day, the winner WILL be either Trump or Hillary.
Repeat something enough and it becomes fact. If every person who thinks that votes green if their lefties or libertarian if they are conservative we'd have a completely different system overnight.
>>75207404
If you were to ask me whether I'd rather get kicked in the balls or in the teeth, I would tell you to fuck off.
Now, it may turn out in the end that one of those two options will be impossible for me to avoid, but at least I make it out with some dignity instead of begging for one of them.
>>75200986
Explain Johnson can't win. Tell them a moral vote means nothing if their candidate can't win. And explain why Hillary is way worse.
>>75209118
If it wasn't for past support in growth of power in the executive branch, we wouldn't have to fear HRC like we do. We need to strip all powers not expressly granted to the president. Remove all past executive orders etc.
Setting precedent like we have done with the past dozen presidents will only worsen after trump. The next democrat will be the worst SJW socialist possible and be unchecked.
>>75209118
Pol btfo
http://reason.com/archives/2016/02/26/why-president-trump-would-be-a-bigger-di
