DAILY REMINDER THAT THE SOVIETS WON WW2 AND WESTERN PROPAGANDA DURING THE COLD WAR REWROTE HISTORY TO SEEM LIKE THE USA DID.
IN FACT WW2 WAS A SOVIET - NAZI CONFLICT WITH SOME SECONDARY PERIPHERAL FRONTS
>>75192734
>DAILY REMINDER THAT THE SOVIETS WON WW2
most people who read a history book know this, chill out
>>75192734
Only burgers deny that, fuckwad. It still doesn't make the Soviets right.
>>75192734
Bu shieeee
Korea numba wun
>SOME SECONDARY PERIPHERAL FRONTS
>Second Sino-Japanese War
>peripheral front
k
>>75192734
The US didn't save Europe from the Nazis, they saved Europe from the Soviets.
>>75192734
Yeah because their manufacturing and infrastructure just appeared magically and they never had any help from the evil capitalists at the US
Russian blood
British Intelligence
US manufacturing
>>75192734
And it proved that fascism (capitalism in decay) is for losers, and socialism is the way of the future.
>>75192734
>DAILY REMINDER THAT THE SOVIETS WON WW2
... with US armaments and supplies
>>75192734
when will people realize that the only reason they SURVIVED was because murica gave them shit loads of funds
the WINTER stopped the Wehrmacht the Red Army was in ruins Germany would have taken Moscow the following summer had the US not attacked, also if the US did not give oil,food and weapons to the Red Army they would have been useless.
And now you know jelly eurofags
>>75193519
>when will people realize that the only reason they SURVIVED was because murica gave them shit loads of funds
When america stops overplaying D-Day
>>75192903
I just wanted to post a busty soviet sniper to be honest.
>>75193609
>>75192734
History is written by the victors
>>75192734
Anyone that knows WWII history knows this.
>>75193706
>>75193609
how can you be sure her numbers are real and not
a product of soviet propaganda
>>75193706
I'm pretty sure that's a man.
>>75193879
>>75192734
Daily reminder that they also won the ideological war.
>>75193576
sorry but mainly food. sorry amerifat.
>>75193581
Real historians don't though I'm not a historian I just am aware that Germany had what like 70% of its resources on the east? Soo yea
>>75192734
I heard about some research the other day that suggested words written in all caps are significantly harder to read than words written normally. Can't recall the source, unfortunately.
>>75193581
>amphibious assaults
>easy
Nah
>>75194142
It was more like 80 or ninety percent
>>75193749
come on, stop with that shit. you just have to read /pol to see that nazi's propaganda is still working
literally babbys first muh reel histry
>>75193298
False :)
Soviet willingly pulled out of Norway because not enough popular support. Even when they were offered Northern-Norway (GB and the US was afraid they would take all of Norway).
I would guess this was the case in all the countries they got control over when they pushed back the Nazis.
>>75193330
>>75193398
>>75193519
Exaggerated. And even if, Blood > Everything else. Nobody is saying that they did it alone. It's just a fact that they did most of the job, by far.
So not a relevant argument.
>>75193576
Exaggerated, the military production of the USSR took Germany by surprise.
>>75193330
This. I'm no historian but I know the ruskies got major help at Kursk because the Brits were able to decode Enigma and knew where the Germans were be and stuff. Also Lend-lease help the ruskies a lot too but of course they won't admit that because "muh soviets won ww2" myth
>>75193876
oh shite, boland, russia hate thread?
>>75193609
thats reasonable
>>75192734
The Soviets could not feed themselves or move a platoon one mile without US support. Soviets were like the infantry and US was logistics and supply.
>>75194652
>muh soviets won ww2
The point is that the Soviet contributed and sacrificed the most against the Nazis. Not that they did it completely alone.
>>75193876
Hayha got 500 Soviets in 100 days, 300 Helmuts in 4 years do not seem that undrealistic
>>75194889
>>75194859
Literally the title of the thread is soviets won ww2
>>75194644
>the ruskies did a lot
They could barely strategically bomb Germany because the russian air force was shit and only effective near the ground like the il-2. Also Germany lost precious manpower and resources by failing in North Africa
>>75194859
also better strategy. But wermacht-fan will never accept it.
>>75194665
nah I'll let them pass this time
>>75194859
If by the doing the most means throwing human meat waves at the Nazis and shooting anyone who took a step back then of course they did a lot
>>75194644
Blood is worthless without iron behind it.
The Zulu learned this lesson at Rourke's Drift and you would be wise to heed their example.
>>75195288
exagerated. read real books, not manstein's memories.
>>75195046
>Strategic bombing
>Not far less relevant than CAS
>>75193947
>He wuz a good boy he dindu nuffin
Typical Russian logic, that 'good' boy would've raped babies, elders, and German farm animals
>>75195514
germans did it first
>>75195046
They couldn't bomb Germany strategically at all. There's a reason you can't name a single Soviet heavy bomber from the period without consulting Google.
>>75193947
It's like anime character backstory.
>>75195514
Same can be said about the German soldier.
>>75194859
The only thing the Soviets were good at was dying a lot
>>75195577
no big bombers. But rupture's artillery
>>75193576
>had the US not attacked
Not attacked who? D-Day happened in 1944, when it became obvious who was going to win.
>>75195452
because logistics don't matter amirite?
>>75192734
Soviets were economically helped by US.
>>75195452
>strategic bombing
>not relevant for WWII
wat
>>75195045
Yes, but I think it's pretty clear that it's implied that they did most of the job.
>>75195046
I am not saying that Soviet would have won alone. It's just pretty clear that they did most of the job. Contributed the most. Sacrificed the most.
>>75195170
Not really, they thought Hitler would wait until 1943 before he attacked (because they did not think Hitler was stupid enough to attack before having control over Western-Europe)/Africa. As History showed, everything turned around 1943.
>>75195288
Your point is? Like 90% of German soldiers killed, were killed by the Soviet Union. And the meat wave tactics are also exaggerated. "Every second soldier had a gun".
>>75195309
Yeah, but 1. The outside help they got are exaggerated. 2. Like 90% of German soldiers killed were by the Soviets.
Sure, it helped. Probably saved millions of lives. Hadn't the Cold War existed, the USSR would act gratefully, just as the world would towards the USSR.
Also the USSR had moved much of the production behind the Ural mountains, so the Germans were never really close. Maybe with a weaker leader than Stalin they could have won on capitulation.
>>75195641
And killing German soldiers
>>75193395
>Fascism
>Capitalism
Pick one
>>75195846
Sssh, don't say that out loud. We wouldn't want the glorious soviet to know he had aid from evil, corrupt capitalist
>>75195687
Although I'm not going to deny that American help via land lease was a big thing.
>>75196129
>Fascism Not a degenerate form of Capitalism.
>>75196199
Yes it was, but what Americans find it hard to believe, is that the USSR contributed by a lot more than any other.
>>75193298
The US saved nobody actually. The US has been a Zog for over 200 years. The Communists (Khazar Jews) beat the Nazis.
NAPOLEON IS A FAG AND SO IS OP KILLLL URSELLLVESSS
>>75192734
my american history teacher told us yesterday, no one was surprised, you're an idiot
>>75196043
agreed.
About strategy i was thinking about their their military operations.
>>75192734
DAILY REMINDER THAT PEOPLE WHO TYPE LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. IN FACT YOU COME ACROSS AS RETARDED WHEN YOU DO IT
>>75196539
why so mad
>>75196043
>>75196590
Soviet Deep Battle was actually better than blitzkrieg
As much as it pains me the Nazi's lost that war, I get a warm fussy feeling about those pictures of the Allied soldiers and the Soviet soldiers hugging and shaking hands at the end of the war in Berlin.
Just imagining being those young guys fighting in a foreign land finally told it's over and you get to go home.
>>75195846
>Soviets were economically helped by US.
Your mother is getting economically helped right now if you know what I mean.
>>75196765
yep.
Also the word blitzkrieg didn't exist during the war. lul
>>75196043
I should myself clearer of the human meat wave charge. I don't even mean actual waves of men rushing into machine gun fire but even the 'glorious' t34 was a metal coffin that the shittest German tank could pierce right through its 'amazing' sloped armor
>The Ferdinand may have been the most successful tank destroyer employed during the war in kills per loss, reaching an average ratio of approximately 10:1. During the Battle of Kursk the 653rd Heavy Tank Destroyer Battalion (German: schwere Panzerjäger-Abteilung, sPzJägAbt) claimed to have knocked out 320 enemy tanks, for the loss of 13 Ferdinands.[1] This impressive average ratio was due to its extreme firepower and protection, which gave it an enormous advantage when used in head-on combat or a static defensive role. However, poor mobility and mechanical unreliability greatly diminished its operational capability.
Again i'm historian but I know the Soviet tanks were garbage that had poor optics, no radios, and terrible conditions for the crews but everybody these days thinks the t-34 is the greatest tank ever made thanks to World of Tanks
>>75192734
>>75194248
I have nothing to say to this, I just want to find out my Jew name.
>>75196931
"historian"
>>75196797
Patton
>>75192734
It was their tanks bro, their fucking tanks.
While they were churning out almost a thousand a month out of tractor factories the delusional fuhrer was churning out a tiny amount of tiger tanks which broke down every ten km and investing money in useless shit like the Maus.
Also the japs were more scared of the Russians than the americans and actually offered up terms of surrender to the americans before the nukes were even dropped which the americans rejected.
Those filthy slavic rapist pigs did most of the leg work and america stole all of the glory but at least the american military operated under a morale banner.
>WW2 WAS A SOVIET - NAZI CONFLICT WITH SOME SECONDARY PERIPHERAL FRONTS
This is going to come as a surprise to China, the Philippines, Japan and the residents of Hawaii -- among other Pacific Rim peoples.
>>75197144
>>75196765
Weren't we using Blitzkreig when dealing with japs in Manchuria?
>>75194644
> Exaggerated, the military production of the USSR took Germany by surprise.
That it did but if it truly was the bee's knees they wouldn't have needed lend lease. Let's not forget up until Stalingrad turned in their favor, he was ready to duck dick for second European front.
>>75197356
"their tanks" is the typical argument from people who know nothing about soviets strategy.
German army is overrated.
>>75196765
Really? Where do you have that from?
>>75196931
I can't deny that, but what is the source of your greentext?
The only reason the USSR disbanded was because the original mission of the Bolshevik Jewish founders to Judaize the world and gain global control via financial domination with Russia as another war factory bulwark to destroy Europe, was completed.
Anyone who seriously looks at America in the first half of its lifespan -- fairly racist and in line with NS Germany, eugenics, miscegenation laws -- and then toward disbandment of the USSR -- pro-Jewish, pro-race mixing, communistic "equality of outcome" -- will see that the original mission was fulfilled, and the protocols of Zion book was realized.
It's hard to realize you were born into a poisonous garden, when you never knew what it was like to live in the healthy one for even a day.
>>75197768
>Let's not forget up until Stalingrad turned in their favor, he was ready to duck dick for second European front.
Who?
Soviets won on the front, but the Jews are the ultimate winners
>Jews could cattle a million of any race and slaughter them right now
>oy vey, don't forgot the holocaust, you're not a Nazi, are you? of course not goy, no one forgets the 7 gorillion
>>75197791
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/panzerjager-tiger-ferdinand-elephant.htm
Based U.S. education in western Europe, along with the omnipresence of our films and whatnot, did its job well.
>>75194248
21 soviet casualties per US death roll
>>75197656
It was more in the lines of a pincer movement
>>75197768
Which wasn't opened up until 1944. It's almost looks like our allies tried their best to do as little as they can. There was literally no good reason for waiting for so long before opening it.
>>75195819
For the prize of developing heavy bombers, long range escort fighters, effective bombing doctrine etc.? No, there were more efficient ways to spend resouces than bombing German civilians far away, like building CAS to destroy German panzers.
Soviets would be dumb if they decided to build force capable of bombing German cities.
>>75192734
Why the fuck isn't she my wife for life already ? Any reasons I should avoid killing myself because of the fact she's long gone ?
>>75197827
>The only reason the USSR disbanded was because
I'm quite sure it was because they realized they could sell public assets to their own friends facing next to no opposition and living the high life but tell me more about your jewish conspiracies.
>>75198161
Thanks
>>75198165
ayy lmao what the fuck france
>>75198435
There was no actual communists in USSR after the death of stalin. He was a fucked up person, but he believed in idea. Those who came after him were just retards who thought communism is about having two cars in a family (literally words of Khrushchev).
>>75192734
If you have to do a daily reminder, you might consider that people don't care what you're saying.
>>75198435
That was icing on the cake.
I'm talking more about the original reason the Bolshevik's even made the original push, who they were, where they came from (Wall Street Jewry funded), who these people were that slaughtered the Romanov's.
Of course there were deviations from time to time, Stalin was a force of nature who the big Jews probably would've rather seen Trotsky win instead, but in the end, Stalin didn't deviate too much from the original mission: destroy Europe, bolshevize the last bastion of resistance to global Jewry.
Every place on earth today that is considered previously "Western" is a liberal humanistic, globalistic in policy, anti-racist, pro-miscegenation shithole, with Jews in privileged positions (look at their percentages of acceptance in Ivy Leagues).
>>75197827
You overdose them redpolls, leaf
>>75198859
>There was no actual communists in USSR after the death of stalin
yeah because he killed them all exDee
>>75196931
It was the greatest tank ever made, In 1941.
By 1942 and for the rest of the war it was completely outclassed by Tiger, King Tiger, Panther, Upgraded Pz.IVs, the Upgraded T-34s and the IS series did not ever catch up. The best tank of the war was Probably the Panther or the Pershing depending on whether you think firepower or mobility is more important. The T-34 was radical and groundbreaking, when It was designed, and It DID completely outclass it's contemporaries, but it's contemporaries were the Pz.3/4, M3 Lee and M4 Sherman, and British A12 Matildas.
The only reasons the soviets won on the eastern front was Crushing weight of numbers compounded by the Germans being forced to split resources to fight in France. Without British Intel and The American actions in North Africa and Italy diverting both strategic attention and resources, the Soviets would have been obliterated at Kursk. Germany did defeat Russia in 1941, they ravaged and routed the Red Army, then were then forced into a multi-front war which they could not maintain and the combined allies, By which I mean the US and Russia with Moral Support from the UK.
>>75198988
Shit, I mean redpills
>>75197786
Even hitler pooped his pants about their tanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClR9tcpKZec&
Why you gotta be such a know it all frenchie? Stop playing to the stereotype that the french are pretentious.
>>75199024
Welp, that is also true.
>>75199321
>>75197547
>China, the Philippines, Japan and the residents of Hawaii
>SOME SECONDARY PERIPHERAL FRONTS
Seems legit
>>75198859
Why was HE a fucked up person? I could understand people like Nikolai Yezhov and other high-ranking people to be called fucked up, but is there any document or something Stalin said (except the fake quotes) that indicate that he was fucked up?
Like, he was no wizard, he didn't personally look into the case of everyone arrested. And in his defense, he executed Yezhov, when they allegedly found out he had been commiting atrocities. Neither did he have as much power as everyone is trying to portray, the image of a strong leader was played on to unite people.
>>75199024
Like whom?
The US was producing supply ships at a rate 1 ship every 72 hours.
From the keel being laid, to it sailing was 3 FUCKING DAYS.
Combined with 50k Sherman's being dumped into the war, I wouldn't call our contributions insignificant.
>>75200805
This is a misconception, one was sailing from a given shipyard every three days, but the construction of each individual ship took longer, an average of about three weeks, a few were completely very quickly in ~4 days, but that was as a part of PR stunt and was not the norm, additionally all the setup required basically disabled the shipyard conducting the stunt since production on other vessels would have impeded work on the rapidly built PR ship.
>>75193576
I think they are saying America let two massive armies of peasant scum kill each other and once maximum carnage was achieved, we jumped in and claimed victory. Just like we did in wwI.
America is truly the greatest nation on earth, and just in time for wwIII, euro scum vs muslim scum.
>>75194023
>believing JBS propaganda
>>75200805
Not to mention the American Hero's who commanded those Shermans.
>>75194786
Not exactly true.
>>75192734
>Western propaganda wrote that the USA won
Wow really makes you think
>>75192734
Americans sent Soviet soldiers to fight against Germany in order to not lose their sons. Because everyone, even Stalin himself knows Russian lifes dont matter.
>>75192734
Soviets emerge from war same ol backwards Commies they were before the war.
America emerges Superpower.
America won WWII.
Soviet """"victory"""": 20,000,000+ dead and gets to force communism on half of Europe for decades before collapsing
American victory: inherits the former role of the European empires as leader of the world order and becomes the wealthiest and most powerful country in history
>>75194248
lets roll
>>75202851
Euro fags have hard time with harsh reality. LULZ.
>>75202877
6877
Menochay Barenfeld
Is that even a real name?
>>75192734
Is this really a meme? I was taught we shat all over the nips in the Pacific theatre while ruskies got shit on, then shit on the Krauts.
>>75202851
fact is Americans would never had the balls to lose several million soldier to defeat Hitler
>>75192734
Soviet union wouldve been kaput if it wasn't for american equipment, millions of men on multiple fronts and british intelligence and support of american forces as well as them holding on to their island which became a huge american base to invade europe from different directions. Truth is that WW2 was 2 teams against each other. Not one country vs. another one.
>>75196538
jews fled Russians fought under their incompetent command and still won
>>75203236
Truth is, America had the sense to let two enemies decimate each other before stepping in at the end to claim victory.
Balls will leave you ruined, brains will leave you superpower.
>>75192734
Daily reminder that Stalin himself said that the USSR would have been starved into submission if it hadn't been for lend-lease.
>>75203543
If roosevelt would sold us on 30s during 'new deal' scam the ordered equipment instead of ww1 scrap, we would not have had to take war credits, that we've repayed for all "ex"soviet republics +interest
Thank you Ivan for your dirt cheap barely functional military surplus
>>75198165
This is why mass immigration into Europe is a good thing. Shitskins are dumb as fuck and love to consume our media, regardless of their stated opinions about us.
>>75203677
Stalin and lenin murdered 60kk Russians, while hitler did only 40.
And he kissed anglo sworld in public.
>>75198231
North africa, italy, etc. Also don't forget we were fighting 2 while you were fighting one that you coudnt handle on your own. We had over 3 fronts while you had one.
>>75203846
Oh yeah, all those p39s, shermans, supply trucks etc. were ww1 scraps. Youre retarded.
>>75199034
American m18 hellcats did better at knocking german tanks per numbers.
>>75203574
without the Russians you would accept Hitler`s rule over Europe
>>75192734
We all know about the European theatre.
Now remind who won the war in the pacific?
>>75204658
italy campaign didnt succeed (they didnt get to germany) and allied losses were huge. africa was a nice military campaign to study but the forces involved were very small compared to the numbers in the east front. the vastness of the empty terrain and the many back and forths , the first ground involvement of US troops and the fact that it was the first clear axis defeat not caused by the soviets, made many people overrate its significance.
>>75205022
Nah. We wouldve nuked europe back to the dark ages.
>>75198231
The reason Japan wasn't biting your ass in the east was because Australia, China, and the US had Japan on the defensive.
A carrier war, like tha Pacific is massive in scope and required an effort never before seen in war.
>>75205115
Oh yes. It didn't tie a shitton of german and italian soldiers at all. It was a complete failure and did not facilitate the actual main invasion in northern france.
>>75205022
Nah, I'm just fukin with ya, we were tied up in the Pacific.
Japan is just too damn good at warfare.
>>75205190
ORLY? That thing would have been ready to bomb you before your nuclear bomb was ready
>>75205190
Ya know, sometimes I get the impression that we are the only country that appreciates nuclear weaponry.
>>75205115
There is a conspiracy theory regarding the Italian Mafia in the US helping the allies smuggle weapons to the iltalian resistance fighters thru the mafia networks. Also, it is alleged that the mafia controlled the docks in New York and made sure no facist sympathizers could sabbotage the ships heading across the sea. As a result of this alliance, the allies agreed to liberate sicily first, followed by mainland italy, even though it was stragically insignificant.
>>75205673
Oh noes. 20 of those things dropping a couple of 500kg bombs is so much deadlier than atomic bombs from actual good aircraft like b-29s with actual good range. No wonder you fucks got your shit sho ed in. You master race fucks lack common sense. Yeah, lets kill jews and import millions of sand niggers, what could go wrong?
>>75192734
Alright who did she rape now?
>>75192734
Patton could have, and wanted to, remove the commies from Germany because he saw exactly how bad they were going to be in the future. That mans book is an incredible read, he was clairvoyant, the government probably assassinated him for being too woke.
>>75205673
LULZ. Flying bat bird. Short range. Very short range.
The only way Germany could have controlled the skies would be if they had scrapped their fighters and mass produced the only long range fighter available at the beginning of the war, the A6m2 Zero.
>>75205723
We are always 2 steps ahead, lol. Hitler was busy creating super tanks that barely worked and we developed a weapon that takes out a whole city at once. The funny thing is that it was developed by the people taht hitler said were inferior, the jews. Aryan master race my ass.
>>75196129
Fascism is the culmination of a capitalist crisis. It uses grandiose language and attempts to appeal to tradition and nationalism, but ultimately it's just papering over the cracks created by capitalism, as we saw during the Great Depression.
>>75196521
We beat the Empire of the Rising Sun entirely by ourselves.
The Soviets declaring war on them the day before they surrender does not count as helping.
>>75206201
Look at them today, even after we rebuilt them. Cuck serving the subhumans from islam while Israel is greatest ally.
>>75206091
that Horten has a range of 4000 to 6000 km depends where it starts it could hit New York and it was more difficult to see it on radar.
This thing is the precursor of the stealth bomber we know
>>75206735
We had nuclear bombs before the end of the war while you guys never even got that thing into service.
>>75206451
Fascism is more about damage control from land owners/factory owners and aristocrats as well.
It's a self defeating for fascist activists since once there's no more socialist threat and they may have to deal with liberals they'll get flushed at the stroke of a pen.
>>75206735
You mean 400.0km to 600.0km.
Forgot the decimal point there, Hans.
This is the same problem you guys have with your Volkswagens, ain't it.
>>75206934
you had to carry it on a airplane (like Big Boy) and the jet could easily destroy it before it reaches Europe
>>75207083
Kek
>>75194644
>we wuz victors
The US gave the Soviets billions of dollars (in 1940s money, which is about a gorillion dollars today) in cash and supplies because they were on the verge of collapse throughout the war.
The Lend Lease Act, pretty inarguable stuff. Also, the Red Army was a fucking mess, primarily because Stalin literally killed all of Russia's best engineers and military leaders.
Their strategies were 1) throw waves of meat, sometimes unarmed, at the Germans, and 2) starve and freeze to death as slowly as possible to deplete German supply lines
Remove the US (and all of its aid) from WW2 and Germany rules all of Europe and Russia to this day.
>>75207083
no 4,000 - 6,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229
>>75207117
We can and we did outbuild you in everything. You guys didn't even have one aircraft carrier. Lulz. Loom at you uboat strategy. We literally built giant cargo ships faster than you could sink them.
>>75194248
rolling and also simultaneously posting a Nazi Germany Rolling meme
>>75192734
The Soviets won because we sent them all kinds of war material and then say back while two of our enemies kicked the shit out of each other.
Even if you just look at all the transportation we sent them, the rediculous number of trucks, the locomotives, that kind of thing.
You know those pictures you see of the Germans and their horse drawn supply wagons and you wonder "what the fuck was wrong with these idiots, to think they could take on the entire world with fucking horse wagons?".
That would have been the USSR too, if it wasn't for the West.
They paid the price in blood, sure, but they didn't do it all on their own, and we were at that time happy to let their desperate commie asses bleed for us.
>>75207338
>>75207338
>aircraft carrier.
ORLY? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin
>>75207149
I'm trying to figure out how Germany got so good at shitposting so fast....proxy aussie perhaps.
>>75192734
The soviet won marching on American rubber, driving machines of American steal, on stomachs full of American grain.
>>75207546
Spam, how dear the word in mother russia.
>>75207338
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunderwaffe
>>75193395
>socialism
>future
because modern socialist states are doing great right now, aren't they?
>>75207515
>graf zeppelin was not completed and was never operational
Yes, really.
>>75207515
It was never operational, dumb fuck. Learn to read your own link.
>>75207338
German engineers help US and soviet union to reach the stars and that's a fact
>>75207875
they could had build it if they had more time
>>75196538
Lad the whole jewing inside USSR was stopped by Joseph "Massgraves" Stalin.
>>75207726
Useless propaganda shit.
>>75192734
Then where's the soviet union been all this time?
>>75207894
With our resources and infrastructure as well as our own scientists and research.
>>75207894
True. Well, maybe not the stars, but I know what ya mean.
>>75207942
They fucked around for years, couldn't be bothered to finish her, parked her in some shithole and promply forgot about her for a couple more years before blowing her up.
>>75208115
Horten_Ho_229 was almost serial production
>>75208130
you needed their knowledge thats a fact. in fact USA and soviet union took many inventions from German after the war
>>75207942
But you didn't while we built a lot of them that were way better than that piece of shit.
>>75208262
if the Horten_Ho_229 would have been ready your carries would have been an easy target
>>75207942
Should have thought of that before you decided to fight a two front war against THE WHOLE FEKKIN WORLD.
>>75208254
It sped things up, we didn't need them. We built nuclear bombs by 1945. I'm sure we couldve handled it just fine. Kek.
>>75208392
Subs were a better weapon system for killing carriers (Yorktown).
>>75208427
and it comes back to what i said at the beginning: without the russians you would had expected Hitler's rule over Europe
Damn I love being American. American history is the only history that fucking matters.
>>75208392
>ho 229
Fuck off with that balsa wood bullshit.
>>75208571
977 km/h km/h and hard to see on radar
>>75208532
I tell ya, this German is aussies tier shitlord.
>>75208392
AAA and p-51s shot down me262s and those rocket planes you guys had. They can shoot down those slower and bigger fantasy planes of your even easier. Even suicide kamikazes coudnt stop us.
>>75208686
buttburt much? even Americans said that this thing was remarkable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqgfjXaJxV8
>>75194248
Oh vey.
>>75193398
>with US armaments and supplies
Not in Stalingrad and Moscow
>>75208582
My bro answered you. NUKES, we had them.
>>75208713
If they can see it on radar
>>75208705
I know, I just like beating him and his superiority fantasy down. I can imagine ahmeds walking by his window while he shitposts holding hands with some german/slav hybrid chick like himself that he wishes he could fuck.
>>75208932
you have to carry them via airplant
>>75192734
BAHAHA Keep sucking more of that Putin dick you faggots.
We should have listened to Patton and simply nuked Moscow.
>>75208994
airplane
>>75207735
They're early attempts. Capitalism didn't come into being overnight. Early attempts failed miserably in the 16th century. The USSR accomplished a hell of a lot for the world's first socialist republic. Went from a peasant backwater to an industrial nuclear superpower within 30 years, and made huge scientific strides that benefited all of mankind. Cuba does excellently in healthcare despite enduring an embargo for 50 years from the largest capitalist power. I have no desire to defend North Korea since it's moved away from socialism to Juche, which is a deviation from Marxism. Socialism is still a learning process, but there is much to take heart from.
>>75208954
You could see it on radar. It was recently built by an american aircraft company. Look on youtube
>>75194248
Swerve, goyim
>>75209115
it sends as much radar as a hawk.. it was build to be undetected
>>75208824
I don't think you understand that attacking a relatively small mobile heavily defended target such as an aircraft carrier is an imbecilic idea when you are in a plane with insanely delicate engines that is primarily made of goddamn wood.
Can it drop bombs and have them land somewhere in a major city and get away? Probably.
Can it make an accurate attack run on a fucking aircraft carrier in the middle of a fleet? Dream on, Hans.
>>75192734
I wouldn't be proud about zerg rush win
>>75193298
Eastern Europe for 50 years wants to talk to you.
>>75209355
Its been proven that it could be seen in radar. Like I said. They recently built one by I think boeing or lockheed martin. Look it up in youtube. The tests and the building process are all on video.
>>75199034
>The only reasons the soviets won on the eastern front was Crushing weight of numbers compounded by the Germans being forced to split resources to fight in France.
That's not completely true. They did it the first year, it didn't work. They also won because they had good strategies/logistic/planification
>>75208824
There are things you German engineers need to be working on Today.
I want you to build an electronic pig that looks and smells like a real pig and program it to identify muslim men.
When it detects a muslim male it runs up and starts humping their leg.
Let me know when the prototype is finished and we will send it to Japan to be prefected.
>>75209011
Smart move, until you realize they have nukes too. Shut up burger.
>>75209450
He means the parts that did not end up in soviet control due to us and the brits. There was a huge staredown for decades over that clay.
>>75209686
good idea. that thing should also include a machine gun so we can identify and remove the muslim problem
>>75209844
Machine gun a good idea, leg humping by a pig may just become another muslim fetish.
>>75209844
We could make the bullets out of flash-frozen pork kept in a cooling unit housed in the pig's belly, to be loaded via belt. That way we not only terrify and humiliate them in this world, but also render their souls forfeit.
>>75197100
Fucking Latvian.
>>75197100
true
>>75195576
>>75195593
Russians were more fucked up. Anyone aged 8-80 was raped. Sure, killing a lot of Jews an all wasn't a good thing, but the Russians committed more ethnic crimes than the Germans did: Katyn Massacre, Holodomor, etc.
>>75210627
>>75195593
meant for >>75195604
>>75210627
>holodomor
Ukrainians were the biggest Nazi collaborators in the war.
>katyn massacre
Poles were the cause of the war in the first place
>>75210627
both sides did many horrible things. but now Europe has the muslim problem that they have to solve
if the civil war starts then Europeans will have to use the SS methods to get rid of them
>>75192734
During WWII, the Soviet executed more of their own troops than total US and British deaths combined
>>75208976
He definitely has the skills, just the right amount of smug superiority and tenacity to use against us burgers.
This lad could damage some sjws and Femtards, trigger the lot of them and have them wailing for their safe spaces, KEK.
I fuckin hate this cult of the GREAT VICTORY, wake up almost century passed, we need new reasons to be proud
>>75210245
True German genius begins to emerge in this thread.
>>75211874
Putin.
>>75211013
Ukraine was used as a buffer zone by the Russians, otherwise the Winter War would've gone by much faster and smoother for the Germans. A lot of the Ukrainian population got sick of being used as a buffer zone, and many in the western half became sympathetic to the Germans.
A village was taken over by the Germans. A women with five children was left without a husband cause he was either shot or sent to a camp or something. The Germans gave her a cow so she could feed her kids. When the Russians came through, they took away the cow, sent the woman to a gulag, and the kids were sent to foster homes.
One of my great-grandmother's children died during the war. While they were taking the child to the cemetary, a Russian pilot decided to go for a strafing run on obviously civilian targets. They had to scatter, and some of them hastily managed to bury him somewhere along the road. She never found her child's grave.
>>75211952
German engineering at it's finest!
>>75212123
>Ukraine was used as a buffer zone by the Russians
The ukraine literally means borderland.
>>75212420
Does that somehow make my statement invalid?
>>75212420
Spain of language, I found a dictionary of some pacific island tribe, don't remember which one but in their language the hard E means death and the word mu means turkey, like the bird.
So emu means Death Turkey.
>>75209092
It's good to know you're learning :^)
Just at the expense of other's lives, sitting on the skulls of over a hundred million. Oh well. At least it's not you.
>>75212848
How is this relevant to the conversation?
>>75213037
Every nation has its bitter enemy, anon.
>>75213253
while not inherently not true, it is still irrelevant to the conversation
>>75198909
>who these people were that slaughtered the Romanov's.
Stalin literally killed them all
Those Bolshevik jews are long dead
>>75213492
See electronic pigs upthread.
>>75203216
>Is this really a meme? I was taught we shat all over the nips in the Pacific theatre while ruskies got shit on, then shit on the Krauts.
American education is a meme
>>75192903
Shhh it's babby's first thread
>>75192734
Why did your army suck so badly m8
>>75192734
Pastaniggers will say anything to obscure the fact that during WWII: Electric Boogaloo they LOST TO THE FUCKING GREEKS! HOLY FUCK, IN HARDLY ANY TIME AT ALL 75% OF ITALIAN ALBANIA WAS FLOODED WITH GYROS AND PITA!
>>75210627
Got any proofs on rapes?
>>75216830
If we're going to discredit witnesses then the holocaust never happened.
>>75192734
I'm afraid I have to agree with this.
Right after the war the French were asked in a poll who won the war and about 90% said the soviets. By the 1990's the number had dropped to about 30% for the soviets.
We make the movies about us, therefore 'we' won the war. Propaganda by omission.
>>75210245
i like this idea.
How about we make it possible that the robo pig flys?
>>75216925
>holocaust happened
Literally wat?
>>75193519
Yep, basic research and you'll find Russian generals saying that without American steel, the T-34 wouldn't have half the numbers produced.
>>75211874
I'm not even from your country but I am still repulsed by what you just said.
>>75192734
I also hate how France, Norway, and Finland act like they weren't Nazi supporters.
>IN FACT WW2 WAS A SOVIET - NAZI CONFLICT WITH SOME SECONDARY PERIPHERAL FRONTS
In Europe. The Pacific was all us with a little aussie and british help
>>75192734
well in fairness the US pushed the nazis out of France and North Africa, and we totally fucked japan out of it. We definately wouldn't have been able to do even that much without the soviets being the primary conflict and occupying all the attention
>>75196931
The t34 was the greatest tank ever made
In the year 1939
As the years progressed German technology caught up and overtook russian
