Trump is an idiot for getting himself lured into accepting that debate. Sanders planned that shit out as a trap and Trump jumped right into it without thinking like he usually does.
Sanders has already stated that he will do everything he can to help the Democrats beat Trump and his campaign strategy is now completely based on convincing super delegates to switch to him because he does better against Trump than Hillary in the general election.
Sanders is going to be attacking Trump unstop and either defend or ignore any attempt by Trump to attack Hillary. He's going to highlight just how different his own platform is to in order to keep as many of his supporters from going to Trump after he loses the primary. Trump will get baited into attacking him and then he'll lose all support from Sanders supporters in the general election, which will ensure Hillary's win.
Trump has officially been stumped.
>>75147021
Ok 1 more
>>75146897
Watch Hernie have a medical condition happening before that even happens
>>75147041
Ok 1 more
>>75147057
Ok 1 more
>>75147077
Yay I did it
>>75146897
For the closet commie cuck it's a lose-lose, he'll be forced to [a] attack Trump [b] defend shills4hills and justify her war crimes.
Trump is literally the Machiavelli of our age while the sandman will be the 1st person in US HISTORY to lose to a woman.. the same woman who was the first person in US HISTORY to lose the nomination to an African American.
>>75146897
Trump is going to only discuss the corrupt system
and hes only going to discuss Hilary.
Im 100% right.
>>75147228
No, it's not.
Bernie's strategy is not to attack Hillary, but to make everyone see how well he does against Trump. He's not going to want to alienate Hillary supporters and super delegates by attacking a fellow Democrat.
This is a lose/lose for Trump, because he either attacks Bernie and lose all those potential supporters he could have gained after the primary if he had just kept his mouth shut or he could focus on Hillary and let Bernie beat the shit out of him and make all the Bernie supporters see why they shouldn't support Trump in the general election.
Trump got baited, hard, and he's about to get the shit stumped out of him.
>>75147365
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/bernie-sanders-no-pressure-drop-out-223555?
Bernie is already pushing the narrative that there is no corruption.
>>75147107
We're proud of you.
Trump didn't make any mistake. It's he who planned this. Trump wants the debate to kill two birds with one stone. He will slaughter Bernie in a debate and achieve two things:
1) Win over Bernie supporters.
2) Make Hillary look like a complete, impotent fool, by doing to Bernie in a single night what she was not able to do in a year.
How is he going to do it? By agreeing with Bernie on enough issues that every attempt to get at substantive policy discussion will end in shrugged shoulders because they both basically agree, and then Trump can steer the remainder of the debate to personal attacks, where he thrives.
>>75146897
When is this debate?
>>75147585
1. Bernie supporters will never vote for Trump once Bernie takes all the attacks he has already made against Trump onto national television.
2. Trump relies on making people look corrupt, but he can't do that against Sanders. He can't even do his usual attack against billionaires, because Sanders will just hammer away at the fact that Trump is one of those billionaires.
>>75146897
Oh my, finally I see it! Thanks so much for your powerful insight!
How could Trump possibly appear as anything but a complete moron debating that great mind of our times, Bernie Sanders? All the biz negotiations throughout Trump's career, the pundits on all news channels, the rest of the Republican party, all vastly inferior to the intellectual superiority, accumulated experience and incontrovertible competence embodied in this icon of our future, Sanders.
We don't need to watch the debate at all. Thank you for blessing us with the fruits of your stellar visionaries .
>>75147107
well done mate
>>75147487
He can steal supporters from Bernie while also attacking him. He did the same thing in the Republican primary. Why wouldn't it work in the general election? Besides, he already calls him Crazy Bernie, a socialist/communist. If attacking Bernie causes him to lose Bernie supporters, he's already lost them.
>>75147834
Trump's entire strategy revolves around making his enemies look corrupt, but he can't do that against Sanders.
He will be forced to debate policy, at which point, he could either try to pivot left and lose the support of conservatives, or he could stand his group and lose the support of Sanders supporters in the general election.
>>75147487
>Trump got baited, hard, and he's about to get the shit stumped out of him.
What part of "Can't Stump The Trump" don't you understand? He's won the GOP nomination, the cuckman has been mathematically eliminated - his """wins""" are technically loses as he only leads in single digits. He has no path to victory, "super delegates can change at anytime", he started with 41 and only has 42. They can change at anytime, the democuck party is rigged and corrupt. Start your hashtag #ImWithShillary now and get over it. It's over for bernedcvcks.
Anyone else excited for the 1st ever bipartisan debate this election?
Is Trump gonna grow stronger?
>>75148065
Sanders is literally a communist, it doesn't matter.
>>75148065
As I just said! You have it all pegged.
Quick, drop Trump a message and warn him.
>>75148260
kek
>>75148065
>he can't make sanders look corrupt
you do know he's a socialist and it would be the easiest thing in the world right?
>not realizing that Trump is doing this to make Hillary less relavent
>thinking Sanders will get the nom
>thinking California is smart enough to choose Sanders over Clinton
>>75148065
Conservatives will support him as long as he doesn't pivot on the wall. They don't want him to raise taxes on the rich, but at least he'll audit the fed. They might not like his past statements on abortion, but we'll start saying Merry Christmas again. He's formed a new coalition that won't go away simply by adopting a more liberal stance on taxes.
He doesn't need to make Bernie look corrupt. It's way easier to just show how incompetent he is.
>>75147834
>fruits of your stellar visionaries
Thank you
I agree with OP, Sanders has Trump in a box. The only way that Trump can win the debate us by actually debating maturely, which we all know won't happen.
>>75149247
>trump can't win against sanders. the guy who couldn't even defend his podium from black girls.
>trump has toyed with and annihilated every single one of his opponents.
Dude how stupid are you?
He doesn't need to actually debate Sanders unless he gets the nomination which is decided in a couple weeks
Trips say this is a Bernie plot to make Trump look good.
Hey they might even be friends and get a beer after. I disagree with Sander's political stances but at least he doesn't want to stab America in the back.
Yes OP, it's surely Trump stuck in a debate with Sanders, and not Sanders stuck in a debate with Trump.
>>75146897
Sanders just needs a legitimate reason to stay in the race until the convention. Clinton already decided to ignore him and focus on the general.
>>75149247
Trump can be mature, if he thinks it would help.
>>75146897
You are a fool if you believe trump was lured into this
He is light years ahead of you in terms of planning
>>75146897
It really only hurts Hillary. If she doesn't show up she looks weak and will lose in November. If she shows up she'll look like an idiot between two candidates who have strong political ideologies.
>>75147823
>sanders isn't corrupt
>he actually thinks this
>>75146897
>Sanders is going to be attacking
Wait a minute, hold it you dummies.
Sanders is a cuck and does not attack anyone.
He couldn't even attack Hillary for crying out loud.
>>75147823
>Trump relies on making people look corrupt, but he can't do that against Sanders
>>75146897
You dont get it do you? Trump has everything to win on legitimizing Bernie. The DNC is never picking him as nomine no matter what, so anything that makes Bernie seem like a serious candidate and makes the Dems vote for him is good, because it increases the dammage done to the democrat party.
The best part of it is, if the DNC pick bernie they have 60% of america saying they'd never vote for a socialist, and he's hated among the coons so trump would probably get hella niggervotes to.
There's nothing to loose on egging bernie and his boys on.
>>75148129
Not only that, it may be the first bipartisan debate between someone guaranteed to not get the nomination and the future POTUS
>>75146897
>his campaign strategy is now completely based on convincing super delegates to switch to him
Without having a method with which to actually accomplish that goal.
Which is a common theme with every "plan" Sanders has. He has no capacity for formulating a detailed and effective plan.
>>75147823
>Bernie supporters will never vote for Trump
They've been jumping ship to Trump for months. And according to several polls 30% of the remaining Bernie supporters will switch camps to Trump if Bernie doesn't get the nomination.
>>75147487
What are you doing in this country you fucking homo?
Agreed
His insult attacks will just ricochet off Bernie while Bernie hits him with facts and all Trump can do is make goofy faces like it's not true even though it is true.
Trump is a moron for accepting Bernies challenge but I bet if he didn't the pressure would have amounted. Might as well say yes and pretend you're doing it for charity.
I can't wait to see all these trump tears
>>75146897
Classic Bernie supporter mindset. You're all totally unable to see the larger picture.
Trump wants to lose this debate. Trump wants Bernie to come out on top. There's no chance the Democrats give Bernie the nomination, but the longer he remains running the more damage is done to Hillary.
Trump is using Bernie to further undermine Hillary support by keeping injecting him campaign with a little bit of life. By the time Hillary faces off against Trump she'll be much weaker than had she secured the nomination weeks ago.
if Trump is going to debate policy, he could just talk about the positions he has on his campaign site, which are far superior to any of the other candidates. He had to knock off all the two faced GOP candidates up to this point; principles would have only paralyses him.
>>75150041
Did not != could not
Why does Bernie Sanders keep wasting his time discussing about Trump when he's still getting destroyed by Clinton?
>>75147077
checked
Trump knows how to deal with cranky jews, he's been doing it for decades
Also, isn't this more of just an exhibition?
How do you get tickets to this
>>75147077
Top work sport
It's going to be a boring, pointless debate. Both Trump and Sanders are simply bad at debates.
>>75146897
Sanders will inevitably throw out anything he stood for and endorse Hillary. This isn't going to hurt her.
Trump just has to sound smart and not shout insults
>>75147823
>Trump can't make Bernie look corrupt.
Yeah, but painting him as a borderline commie nutjob whose most relevant accomplishement in 30 years of Senate is renaming a post office still works.
>>75146897
You know he agreed to this because of free publicity and for charity. By making this debate for charity it makes it look like Trump is the good guy win or lose
>>75150503
>>75152624
These. This is a fucking trap. If anything, the damage has already been done. Liberal bloggers are calling out Bernie as a traitor because they know that he knows this will damage Hillary indirectly. They are also mad that he has legitimized Trump as a serious opponent by agreeing to debate him.
>>75146897
Cuck sanders WINNING a debate against trump
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>>75147077
Kek has rewarded your faith.
If Trump actually prepares and debates properly, I think he definitely has a good chance of winning. He just can't be off the cuff like he was in the Republican debates.
>>75153325
That won't work unless he's extremely convincing in doing so. Most people are wise to the fact that it'd just be a shitty formality and he wouldn't really mean it.
>>75147823
>sanders isn't corrupt
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eoin-higgins/what-about-sierra-blanca-bernie_b_9233818.html
>>75147107
this shitpost is of exceptional quality!
Trump is a faggot, Kek is a frog faggot, you're all faggots
>>75146897
the debate challenge wasn't a trap by sanders, it was a desperation move. he needs to shake up the race because all current polls have him losing california and he needs to win it overwhelmingly to even have a chance at the dnc.
sanders can't attack nonstop if trump plays it cool or he will look like an ass. trump will be the nice guy and sow seeds with bernfags that he'll reap when sanders is out. even if trump somehow loses the debate, he still comes off as a class act because he did it for charity when hillary wouldn't.
it's literally a win/win/win for trump and nobody saw it coming. he pulls this shit all the time.
>>75153334
>>75148185
>Bernie is a Communist
>people think this
He's not even a socialist mates. You people have zero understanding of leftism. How can you claim to understand politics when you cant even understand ideology of the people you oppose?
>>75147585
>How is he going to do it? By agreeing with Bernie on enough issues that every attempt to get at substantive policy discussion will end in shrugged shoulders because they both basically agree, and then Trump can steer the remainder of the debate to personal attacks, where he thrives.
this desu.
>>75149247
Trump dismantling Ted with the 9/11 answer was somber and mature Trump.
>>75153636
I think a lot of bernie followers will take it and not really notice the difference.
>>75152857
sanders only chance of winning is to show dems he can beat trump before hillary is indicted for crimes
>>75147487
>States the increasingly nervous Democrat as we watch the Democratic party dissolve into a pool of infighting...
>>75153649
What about when he voted to increase production of F-35s because of his defense industry donations? What about when he voted to label all GMOs except for milk because of his milk industry donations? The man is corrupt as fuck, but since Vermont industries are irrelevant it doesn't matter. He's a crony capitalist, like every socialist ever.
>>75153110
I'd give my left nut to see this bitch spread her legs
Reminder to hide and sage shill threads.
>>75153788
This
>>75147834
10/10 socialist faggot OP rekt
I actually agree but I think Trump might just dodge the debate when it comes down to it.
>>75147820
Hasn't been announced yet
>>75149247
>trump won't get more than 10% support
>trump won't get more than 20%
>He won't pass 30
>H-he can't get above 40!
>He can't beat rubio!
>He can't beat Cruz!
>he can't beat the Bush family!
>Trump won't win the republican nomination!
>>75153688
>dubs
Australian-approved shitposting done right
Trump and Sanders should have a civil sit-down debate, not a superbowl spectacle behind podiums.
Kind of like a modern, less sophisticated version of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ9Si5pkAqg
>>75147487
LMAO you actually believe this shit.
I'm a Clinton supporter for monetary policy and abortion reasons but I've already accepted that Trump is going to win the election. The reason is because Bernie Sanders has spent a year doing Trump's work for him. Look at a graph of Clinton's approval rating. It kept dropping the more Sanders convinced the left that Clinton is a corrupt Republican. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree that she is a corrupt Republican, all that matters is that enough of Sanders' supporters now believe it that they will actually vote for Trump.
What does Sanders have to gain from debating Trump? He just needs the attention because he ran out of money and must rely on earned media. If he truly understood that he has no chance of winning, he wouldn't be actively trying to sabotage Clinton.
What does Trump have to gain? He can rail on Clinton relentlessly and get Sanders to do it too. He can portray his views as being close to Sanders on trade, foreign policy, infrastructure, and immigration, and he would be right. Looking at this from a purely economic point of view, the scenario that makes Trump better off while keeping Sanders indifferent is that they both spend the whole debate trashing Clinton and agreeing with each other. So that's what's going to happen.
In ten years, every Democrat will remember and hate Bernie Sanders.
>>75146897
>Sanders is going to be attacking Trump unstop and either defend or ignore any attempt by Trump to attack Hillary. He's going to highlight just how different his own platform is to in order to keep as many of his supporters from going to Trump after he loses the primary. Trump will get baited into attacking him and then he'll lose all support from Sanders supporters in the general election, which will ensure Hillary's win.
This is 100% correct. Most people on /pol/ are too retarded to see it.
>Trump has officially been stumped.
This is false. Trump won't go through with the actual debate. He will gracefully avoid it and remain unstumped.
>>75147823
Falling for the old ""my super tolerant progressive candidate is incorruptible" meme. Don't you have some Huff Post articles to share on Facebook?
>mexishits watch the debate expecting Trump to get BTFO
>Sanders reveals his true racist agenda
>Trump redpills them on the need for national sovereignty
I can't wait
>>75152791
He cowers and backs down and shows serious nervous body language when he's on stage with her. He is either Hillary's bitch or he's deathly afraid of her.
Not sure if you're all trolls or simpletons.
How can a debate hurt Trump? It's just more ratings and more exposure, and now the chance for some Berners to uncuck themselves and realize black guys railing their wives and girlfriends every night isn't the ideal way to live life.
>>75147077
Nice 1
>>75154625
The incentives are placed perfectly so that Trump only benefits from attacking Hillary and agreeing with Sanders, whereas Sanders benefits from just having attention. They're both just going to be attacking Hillary the whole time.
>>75147021
>>75147041
>>75147057
>>75147077
>>75147107
this guy
>>75147823
my anecdote for the day, two people I'm friends with who hate trump have already said they are voting for him if bernie isn't nominated
>>75153413
>They are also made that (Bernie) has legitimized Trump as a serious opponent
>Bernie legitimized Trump
These people really do live in their own fantasy world...
>>75147487
>Trump goes in
>Appeals to the disenfranchisement of Bernouts
>Explains why his way is better and that Bernie's is literally impossible
>lose/lose
>>75146897
inb4 Bernie gets branded and fuckin slain like all the other economically challenged retards before him.
Unstumpable Trump will rip Bernie's shit to bits.
>>75154966
Dunno about that. I think Sanders has made it very clear that he will support Clinton over Trump. It may be that Sanders has finally decided to drop out and see if he can do some damage towards Trump on the way.
>>75146897
By agreeing to debate Sanders, Trump minimizes Clinton and embarrasses her. It will look to the public as if she’s hiding, afraid to debate.
By tying a Sanders debate to charity, Trump signals that Sanders isn’t a “real” opponent. So Sanders gets minimized at the same time. And it puts Sanders in follower mode. Trump suggested, Sanders followed.
The charity angle will probably make the debate impractical. The networks don’t want to run a freebie. So there is a high chance it won’t happen. But Trump gets credit – and attention – for offering.
Imagine what happens if Trump and Sanders start discussing which charity gets the proceeds. If Trump picks a veterans organization, Sanders would be supporting Trump’s brand. Trump is all about the veterans. And I also imagine Trump making an opening offer to split the money 70-30, with Sanders’ chosen charity getting the smaller part. That opening offer would be headlines for days.
If the debate happens, Trump shows strength by exposing himself to attacks. But it also gives him the opportunity to frame the race as two rebels versus more-of-the-same-Clinton.
>>75146897
>>75156044
Would Trump lose a debate to Sanders? Trump is famously light on policy details, but keep in mind that Sanders would have to explain how he pays for his ideas. Trump can embrace Sanders’ ideals (universal healthcare, free college) while pointing out that we have no way to pay for that stuff in the short run. Compared to Sanders, Trump would start to look like the mainstream candidate. Trump needs that.
Both Trump and Sanders could attack Clinton on stage, to huge ratings, while Clinton has no effective way to respond. Clinton can’t even TALK about the debate without giving it more attention.
The risk to Trump is that Sanders wins the debate. But they have seen each other’s act so often that no one would expect a knockout punch in either direction. In fact, I would expect both of them to show uncharacteristic respect to each other on stage. Trump wants Sanders’ voters, and Sanders has created a brand that is built around civility. I would expect them to play nice. That helps Trump more than Sanders if it makes Trump seem more “presidential.”
As usual, Trump has created multiple ways to win and only one (improbable) way to lose. If the debate never happens, Trump wins by making the offer and getting the attention. If the debate happens, it minimizes both Clinton and Sanders. The only risk is that Trump loses the debate to Sanders in a huge way. And that seems deeply unlikely.
Trump is taking some risk with the offer, but not a big one. I call it a good bet.
>>75146897
two cucks debating on how best to be a cuckold. who cares.
>>75155486
He doesn't want to rip SanJew apart, he wants to win his supporters. He's not going to be able to do that by calling him 'wacky socialist Bernie'. Bernie supporters love that he is a socialist.
>>75156279
>wanting libtard supporters
how cucked can trump get?
>>75156373
>cucked
thats how he wins, he gets the cucks on his side. becomes POTUS, goes on his red pilled rampage.
now it doesnt matter if cucks support him or not, because he is already president
>>75147823
>Trump relies on making people look corrupt, but he can't do that against Sanders.
This anon doesn't know that The MAJORITY of his money is under his Wife's name.
>>75156549
wow I bet you're excited to vote for the president all the cuckolds love aren't you
>>75146897
look man, Sanders is just like Jeb. He's not an alpha male, not even close. He can't stand up for himself. When debating someone like Trump that's most important.
>>75153811
Are you retarded?
>>75147581
Democrats were already talking about making trouble for him in the Senate if he continues to attack Hillary.
>>75153811
>Honeymoon in Soviet Russia
>not a communist
That alone should speak volumes.
>>75152624
>>75153413
>>75155165
Hyped for seeing this shit now.
>>75147823
Trump doesn't need their vote. He just needs them to stay home instead of voting for a corrupt hag
>>75146897
No he's not, by helping sanders win California he can stir more shit up in the dem nomination process.
He also can use his skills to get sanders supporters to vote for him instead of hillary in the general.
Don't forget that trump is the king of this shit.
I wish moly could participate too
>>75154585
>im a clinton supporter
m8
leave
>>75156373
>cruzmissile confirmed
>>75156279
nobody wants to support a destroyed loser.
Trump will win against either candidate.
the only thing he should be worried about is california.
If any state is shitty enough to try to shoot him its CA.
Trump knows what hes doing anyway.
>>75147228
>Trump is literally the Machiavelli of our age
/pol/ just gets funnier and funnier.
>>75156373
he cucked the dems out of there voters
dilbert guy looks to think its good for trump
Trump doesn't have to win the debate
He just has to seem reasonable and agree with some of Bernie's premises (if not his course of action)
Bernie supporters will see that they can agree with trump and vote for him against Hilary
Bernie can't get the nom and trump already has it locked up
The only way he loses is he really attacks Bernie
>>75149689
>Jews not stabbing America in the back
I'm not so sure about that anon. What makes you think he isn't trying to push "democratic socialism" knowing full well the damage it will do to the economy in order to develop an army of useful idiots to foment glorious peoples revolution?
