With all of these stories of valor in Hollywood of the allies, what are some heroic battles/stories of the Germans/Italians during WW2?
>>75145707
>heroic stories
>italians
>ww2
Germany saving Mussolini who was captured and imprisoned by the allies.
The red baron
Did they ever make a movie about Lanzerath Ridge?You know,where 18 fresh recruits stalled 500 elite Fallschirmjägers for hours and caused them 90 casualties?
>>75145707
>United States
>Asking about Germans/Italians heroic deeds instead of listing a million heroic deeds by America and making eurofags jealous
Way to be a cuck, friend.
>>75146243
Why is that cuck? There's no way that the allies were the only ones to perform amazing things in combat. Why is it strange? I like to read about heroic Romans and Greeks, who would have definitely been enemies of the U.S.
>>75145828
good meme, maple syrup fucker
>Cuckeau
>>75145876
Isn't that ww1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_of_the_Savoia_Cavalleria_at_Isbuscenskij
>>75146243
>instead of listing a million heroic deeds by America
fighting for the kike is not heroic.
>>75145707
my grandfather was a Rat of Tobruk, in the units journals is makes note of how they would creep out at night with just their bayonets to kill the Germans/Italians while they slept. they felt somewhat sad for the Germans because they considered they worthy opponents and wasn't really a nice felling killing them that way, but when it came to cutting the Italians throats while they slept, they felt dirty because it to them it seemed like they were killing civilians or less as the Italians were considered such inferior troops.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassino
DAILY REMINDER THAT THE SOVIETS WON WW2 AND WESTERN PROPAGANDA DURING THE COLD WAR REWROTE HISTORY TO SEEM LIKE THE USA DID.
IN FACT WW2 WAS A SOVIET - NAZI CONFLICT WITH SOME SECONDARY PERIPHERAL FRONTS
>>75145828
A
FUCKING
TRUDEAU
>>75146506
Cowardly pieces of shit.
>>75146769
soviets would of totally been wiped if for not having huge supplies of tanks, arty, guns, ammunition and technology that both the British and Americans sent across, oh and the soviets never even paid their debt for all the equipment.
>>75146820
>MAMA MIA! DA CANADIANS KNOW!
>>75147104
lol, didn't the soviets have men charge front lines without weapons?
pretty autistic. like a zerg rush
>>75145707
During the Battle of Narva on 3 March 1944, he single-handedly destroyed eleven enemy tanks with a 7.5 cm Pak 40[2] He was found unconscious and close to death the following day and brought to Swinemünde and eventually Berlin, where he received the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross and a congratulatory telegram from VNV leader Hendrik Elias. However, the only Wehrmacht Sondermeldung about Schrijnen's action only claimed 7 destroyed tanks ("In der Kämpfen der letzten Tage bei Narwa hat sich der flämische SS-Sturmmann Remi Schrijnen in der SS-freiwilligen Panzergrenadier Brigade "Nederland" durch Abschuss von sieben Panzern besonders hervorgetan").
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remi_Schrijnen
We can't have nice things because we can't honour the fallen on both sides equaly
just ask you know who why
>>75146875
You wops sure are
>>75146875
like to know how crawling across open ground to the enemy camps with just a bayonet knowing that less then half of your group will make it back alive is an act of a coward, in fact it is what made the Germans fear the rats of tobruk, their unflinching bravery against overwhelming odds to fight to the end.
>>75147298
one comrade had a rifle and the other comrade the bullets
>>75145707
>heroic battles/stories
>Italians during WW2
pick 1
A fine display of courage.
>>75147104
that is correct, thats why they were allies. theres no point in discussing a hupothetical conflict where no side had allies and help.
but the thing is the russians did by far the most fighting and won the war on the ground. i read recently that the germans had 190 divisions in the eastern front and maximum 20 divisions in africa/western front at any given moment in ww2. that shows how exaggerated are the allied claims of equal share of the credit for the victory
>>75147472
jesus christ.
>>75147335
got to love the amount of captured Italians, lolz. !!!Cheap Italian guns for sale, never fired, only dropped once!!!
>>75147298
Yep, Stalin was reptarded
>>75147472
>>75147513
>>75147298
That never happened you illiterate cretins. That's a video game. Jesus Christ why are so eager to discuss history when you don't know shit about history?
Read the story of Erich Hartmann or Hans Ulrich Rudel
>>75147593
i think he might of seen that movie, can't remember its name. anyone???
>>75147512
There was some 40 divisions in West and Norway AFAIK but those were mostly second-rate troops.
Best German troops fought in East.
>>75145707
>what are some heroic battles/stories of the Germans/Italians during WW2?
Victors write the history books.
The incredible self-sacrifices and amazing victories of the losing side are all 'forgotten'.
>>75147700
enemy at the gates
>>75147700
enemy at the gates, it was also on the firt COD game.
>>75147700
He saw it in Call of Duty.
>>75147593
pssssst, don't spoil their Enemy at the Gate education, because their history teacher could give not a single fuck about anything other than MURICAN-history
Michael Wittman
Kurt Knispel
>>75147801
>>75147799
pls, teach us o' wise one
>>75147848
Otto Skorenzy.
>>75147549
interesting fact : the bulk of the communist partys weaponry during both the resistance (1942-44) and the greek civil war (1946-49) was weaponry captured from the italians during the war.
>>75147507
>checkflag
>>75147863
and do the job right, that your family pays taxes for, for free?.
Hell no
>>75148025
France was more successful in WW2 than Italy, people never mention shit about Pétain but he managed to keep the Germans, the Italians, the commies and the allies at bay while supporting the resistance.
He took the personal blow that saved France from all the post war -isms.
>>75145707
Barbarossa where they risked and indeed sacrificed it all in order to save Europe from communist tyranny.
>>75146769
I know its b8 but still
>supplying every ally with fuckhuge amounts of steel and fuel
>doing 70-80% of the work in defeating Japan, who had some of the most fanatical soldiers and commanders in human history
>helping in an enormous way to win in north Africa
>invading Italy
>having hundreds of bombers over German industrial centers in broad daylight every other day, something the Brits couldn't do
>being THE major contributor and participant in the largest amphibious assault in human history
>liberating France
>the atomic bomb
Just because we didn't want to join a European war right off the bat, on a continent where there's a war every 5 years, doesn't mean we didn't do shit
>>75145707
>what are some heroic battles/stories of the Germans/Italians during WW2?
There was the time the Italians bravely surrendered to an army that they outnumbered 4-1. Or the time they got beaten by the Greeks. Or the time they switched sides.
I mean, really, just take your pick with anything that Italy did in WW2.
>>75145707
>some heroic battles of the Italians during WW2?
Even the French army kicked their ass
>>75148325
Another historically illiterate American. Why do you people even need free speech? Nothing smart ever came out of your mouths.
>>75148358
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i can't stop laughing at your pic.
>>75147104
This
America bankrolled the last 3 years of the war almost single handedly and then the commies didn't even pay us back
>>75145707
a little truth of life ... Google translation of subtitles that shit but you can understand the meaning of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_jjjLjq34
>>75146504
We were fighting because naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan launched an unprovoked attack on American sailors in an American harbour, killing and maiming hundreds, both military and civilian. Germany declared war on us.
>>75148355
its not bait the fact that you think it is shows how well the decades of degrading the soviet effort and overrating the US involvement has worked.
from all of these things you mentioned the only game changing contribution to the war is the economic and material supply to the allies who were actually fighting.
all the other things range from irrelevant (bombing of german infrastructure didnt get any results until the war was decided) to secondary (africa, italy, japan - remember it was a european war after all) to relevant in a broader perspective (for example the developement of the atomic bomb was very important in end-war and post-war negotiations with the ussr and completely changed the allies stance towards the ussr which was somewhat indulgent until then).
>>75147507
>mfw the Italians were responsible for the fuck up and they make up most of the casualties
Jacques, you got your ass handed by the Germans without exception, taking pride in defeating Italians is like taking pride in stealing a candy from a baby.
>>75149107
I get your point with the Soviets winning, but how was Japan a "secondary" enemy? They were the only ones who did any real damage to us armed forces
>>75149107
>Africa and Italy were irrelevant to World War II
Now this is delusion
>>75149158
Hitler praised the French soldiers though.
And they even gave military honors to the one who fell in 1940.
>>75148025
>check flag
>>75149233
if we see ww2 for what it was, a primarily european war, japan had a limited influence on it. in the grand scheme of ww2, the pacific theatre was a secondary US-Japan conflict.
>>75149244
italy campaign didnt succeed (they didnt get to germany) and allied losses were huge. africa was a nice military campaign to study but the forces involved were very small compared to the numbers in the east front. the vastness of the empty terrain and the many back and forths , the first ground involvement of US troops and the fact that it was the first clear axis defeat not caused by the soviets, made many people overrate its significance.
>>75149244
Those were secondary fronts and they were used as attrition tool against the Germans. Malta was the only strategic focal point the German High Command cared about, their intervention in North Africa was, like their intervention in Greece, because Italians proved themselves as the worst soldiers of the entire conflict again and again. Italy proved not to be "the weak underbelly" of Europe solely because the Germans have de facto and de iure taken over Italy. Summa sumarum, you are an average American with american-tier general education.
>>75148305
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>>75149375
That is absolutely true,he thought of the French as natural brethren of the Germans despite of their long history of military/political conflicts. I just pointed out the fact that you posted a misleading picture. French have wrongfully became a meme when Italians are ,without doubt, the worst soldiers in 20th century.
>>75149905
The germans literally had to stage a coup in 1943 and put him under house arrest.
>>75149716
>>75149745
>the diversion of millions of desperately needed soldiers and hundreds of millions of dollars worth of supplies outside of Germany didn't matter
Ok
We get it, an American tourist fucked you're mom. You don't have to be intellectually dishonest about something that happened 70 years ago.
Besides the occasional tank or fighter ace i never heared of infantrymen doing anything as signigficalt as their allied counterparts.The more i hear about those stories the more i question if germans are any good at fighting anyone stronger than belgium.
>>75151065
To be fair Germany had a ridiculous number of fighter aces. The first like 50 in terms of kill count were Luftwaffe pilots.
>>75145707
The German aces were the best of the war though
>>75151210
This. Reading about the exploits of a single German tigergruppe in Viller-Bocage sends chills up my spine
>>75151026
>diversion of millions of soldiers
>millions of soldiers
>millions
You sure are retarded Tyrone.
> hundreds of millions of dollars worth of supplies
> hundreds of millions of dollars
Again, absolutely false, it was a fraction of supply load. Also, you do realize that the Zionist ,uh I am sorry, American dollar is not the absolute measure of value.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark
>Americoons able to fuck our women
>its not the other way around
Stay in delusion Tyrone. Also, I double dare you to point out to me a single piece of historiography that counters my thesis. I double dare you, you double nigger.
>>75151326
>superior, experienced crew with superior machine against tanks that can't frontally penetrate it with a shit crew
That shit is just unfair
>>75151210
>aces
You misspelled soldiers there,aces are included in that category.
>>75151026
>millions of soldiers fought in Africa
actually most of the troops fighting on the axis side were italian. germans had like 3 divisions. probably less than 100,000 men during the whole campaign.
you are misinformed and stubborn without a good reason
>>75151819
>everything outside of Germany is Africa
Turkish is your first language so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
>>75152005
>>75152005
You are literally retarded Tyrone. How about you finish up high school and then you come back to shitpost here.
Why did you not respond to my post Tyrone?
>>75151623
Are you having trouble finding arguments/evidence for falsehoods you wrapped in your shitposts?
>>75152005
are you an idiot? we keep stating facts and you keep coming back with insults hoping to appear less misinformed
we are talking about the african campaign. by the time the italian campaign (especially the invasion of mainland italy after sicily) happened, the battle of kursk was over and everybody could see that there is no way the germans would be able to win the war.
i bet you think normandy was the turning point in the war or that the battle of the bulge was the hardest fought battle in ww2
>>75145707
Hmmmm, there's that one time when 5,000 Italians heroically captured a bridge held by 9 Frenchmen
...Well, actually they failed, but eventually the armistice was signed between France and Germany and the 9 dudes holding the bridge were ordered to give access to the Italians
Didn't the Italians use manned torpedo's to sink a couple bong battleships in port at Alexandria? Then again, the bongs raised the wrecks, captured the Italians and the Italian brass never found out they were successful until they switched sides.
>>75153751
>manned torpedo
Wtf
>>75151651
>well equipped and supplied allied troops with absolute air superiority against tired veterans,tennagers and seniors
That shit is just unfair
>>75153945
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_torpedo
>Italian engineering
>>75147996
I heard recently that he ended up working for Mossad after the war. Funny old world
>>75153952
What's your point, Hans? I'm just saying that at the time the allied tanks were ill equipped and unprepared to handle Tigers.
The germans actually had problems with russian armour at the start of the war, their panzer III's weren't able to put a dent in the Kliment Voroshilov tank.
>>75154871
klaus barbie assisted in the killed of ernesto che guevara, making him the most based german of all time
>>75146347
>>75146820
Your efforts in both of the world wars were so pathetic that even we were fucking god warriors compared to you. Do you realize how sad that is?
>>75156090
Pointing out the obvious,just like you.