You paid a multi-billion dollar corporation for a box of poison, disregarding the warnings on the box
You then willingly gave yourself an addiction to nicotine.
You keep buying their poison every day. Letting others profit from your idiocy.
You have the disrespect to think you have the right to smoke your poison in public and contaminate other people's air.
Then you berate e-cigarette users because their stupidity is less poisonous than yours, and is therefore for pussies.
It's time to grow up smokers.
Where did the person with the healthy lung live in a bomb shelter?
>>75124121
These lung demonstrations are such bullshit. The black lung product of a disease unrelated to smoking. Most of these demonstration lungs don't even come from smokers. Fuck, some of them don't even come from human beings, but rather pigs.
Smoking is disgusting. There's no need to underhanded methods.
>>75124121
>vapefag detected
You are both degenerates, and blowing a mouth-fedora is just as retarded as smoking, just dont have as much science built up yet. Enjoy your 'popcorn lung syndrome' faggot.
>>75124262
>>75124341
>>75124349
>>75124349
>Yes yes, pat yourselves on the back, goys!
>>75124349
>hes against smoking
>therefore, he uses e-cigs
wow
>>75124121
the owner of the lungs on the left is just as dead
>>75124756
>yesss good goy smoke it up hehe
>you're all going to die anyways just give me those shekels!
>>75124121
It's like people who still aren't vegan, it's truly remarkable whenever I run into someone like that. It's like, they still make you??
>>75124121
>picked up smoking in Afghanistan because nothing to do on fob during down time
>progressively gets heavier
>3 years go by and want to quit now
>start vaping to quit cigs but literally fucking hate this pseudo culture that comes with it.
Honestly helped me quit smoking cigs but I refuse to use this fucking thing in public. Wont even use it while driving unless on freeway.
Now I just lower nicotine amount every month then drop all together.
>being addicted to nicotine/cigarettes
Why does this meme exist? I'd understand if it was perpetuated by anti-smokers, but it's perpetuated just as much by smokers.
I quit cold turkey like 5 years ago after smoking for 5 years straight, and I had NO problem whatsoever.
I would like to mention that I think smoking cigars is still pretty based although I haven't smoked them since I quit either. I'd totally smoke a nice cigar if I stumbled into a situation in which I was given a cigar.
Anyone defending smoking must be 12, I smoked for almost 20 years and it definitely fucks you up. Ear infections, plugged sinuses, being out of breath, bad breath, chest pains, poor circulation. Plus it costs way too much.
If you want to die at 50 go right ahead and keep smoking. Then when you cough you will have fucking seizures and puke up fucking snot.
Op is right, if you smoke, you are a fucking retard.
>>75124349
Don't vape here, just to put it out there, so I don't get bombarded with hate speech and get triggered.
But the whole popcorn lung thing was typical media blown out of proportion shit.
Popcorn lung is caused by diacetyl, and popcorn lung got its name because people working in a popcorn factory inhaled copious amounts of diacetyl used in popcorn butter flavoring.
E-liquid companies have recognized this and very few, if any manufacture their liquids with diacetyl.
>>75124121
Nice propaganda op. Don't mind me, just dropping off the truth.
>>75125018
Dying young from smoking is a modern thing, my grandfather smoked a tobacco pipe literally ever night as he read books, nigger lived till he was 87.
The problem is mass production of cigarettes puts a fuck ton of chemicals in it
>>75125009
The addiction is quite real anon.
A lot of people have quit cold turkey. Most people have a much harder time controlling it though.
>yfw you realize smoking is the ultimate red-pill
>>75125181
>that source
Why are you in denial, anon?
>>75124941
> Not Smoking = Veganism
Try again degenerate
>>75124121
I don't get it. Both sets of lungs are dead and I'm betting the darker ones had a shit load of fun while the pink ones lived a straight laced life and probably got shot by a nigger.
>>75125195
Canada doesn't put chemicals in it's tobacco, it will fuck you all the same.
Let's not forget how their reckless stupidity puts others at risk with secondhand smoke.
>>75125395
Honestly dude, I doubt that.
Cigarette wraps alone are full of nasty shit.
>>75124602
Gee I wonder who would write something like this
>>75124121
Cigarettes are a eugenics program.
>>75124121
I smoked for 5 years. It's utterly degenerate. There's nothing redeeming about it and smoking fags will defend it until their literal grave because the poison has led them in to an infinite cycle of addiction and forgiveness for said addiction.
>they literally pay a rich corporation so they can poison their bodies
>then they defend this decision on the internet
>smoked weed before ever touching a cigarette
>never felt even the slightest nicotine craving
I know certain personalities are attracted to weed, but maybe the order you try these things in your childhood matters? Weed could be the solution for future generations, just make kids try it and fall in love with the weed high before the cigarette high.
>>75125368
So you smoke? Or you actually aren't vegan??
>>75125488
Whatever, smoking is fucking stupid, I quite 2 months ago and I can almost run 2 clicks again. I was spending almost 300 bucks a month on cigs alone. Just bought a 500 dollar vidya card with the money I saved.
>>75125672
Smoking anything organic, even weed, is bad for your lungs
>>75125181
80% of people with lung cancer were smokers at some point even if they quit because they physically can't smoke any more.
>>75124121
The one on the left is fucking raw!
>>75125672
I've never really felt addicted or even come close to addiction with anything except some types of kids candy when I was a child.
Nicotine is literally baby tier compared to the green hubba bubba chewing gum, that shit has something in it man
>>75124121
If it brings me one day closer to living in a world without people like OP I would smoke 10 packs a day.
>>75125812
just kek'd all over myself
The only thing I don't understand is why spend money on something you burn by the pack only to spend more money on it next pay?
>>75125181
Definitely false
>>75125672
weed lowers your sperm count drastically, can lead to impotency, and increases risks of schizophrenia
its also fucking horrible for teenagers hormones during puberty
>>75125745
But think about kids. They are going to be offered drugs in high school and that's pretty much guaranteed so let's pick our losses. You simply don't see lifelong pot smokers in droves like you see with cigs.
>>75124121
I smoked for like 5 days and I lost half an inch on my cock. Was back to normal after like a week without smoking. Never touched tobacco again senpai
>>75126160
True. Between marijuana, alcohol and nicotine, marijuana is the best choice
>>75125009
This, sometimes I even forget I have the damn things, and they are sitting in plain view in my car. I don't understand how people get addicted.
>>75125672
Weed calcifies the pineal gland and raises estrogen and can make you not produce working sperm which is why the Jewish media are promoting it so fucking much. Anyone who is truly redpilled does not smoke weed.
>>75125838
You're an idiot. Every single person I've known who tried cigarettes in high school has one thing in common. They've all tried to quit, and they've all come back at some point.
>>75125812
>>75125738
You write like a kid, so I highly doubt that any of what you wrote is true. If you're not a kid then you are illiterate.
Are you guys ready for the ultimate redpill?
>>75126427
Fuck off leaf, literally none of that has any basis in reality.
It's not the nicotine that does the most damage to the lungs (addiction set aside), it is what the filters and materials used to make the cigarette that cause that kind of lung damage.
>>75126571
Your country has a population of 7 million, it's garbage and that's not even counting the somalis.
>>75126669
http://www.livescience.com/52015-marijuana-lowers-sperm-counts.html
Good goy smoking weed is rebellious and we totally do not want you doing it
>>75125368
non-smokers die every day friend
>>75126879
Not an arguement.
>>75126959
I'm not arguing, just saying your country was 3rd world before the mass immigration.
>>75127023
Wrong, you're attacking my flag with false facts. 14-17 years old I would bet.
>>75124121
Fake and heterosexual
>>75126427
You have no idea how much that clicked in my head. My friend used to smoke a ton of weed and whenever we hang out he comes off girly, not like teehee but like in the stuff like he will straight up talk about his day for 10 minutes straight, and takes forever to get ready for anything. Before this sounds like a complete fundamental attribution error, this is compared to all of my other guy friends. They don't do this, except for the ones that have smoked a lot of weed. The ones that don't smoke don't complain about their day and shit.
>>75127088
Most european countries are shit honestly. They shouldn't be allowed to post here.
Anyone else think those Truth anti-smoking propaganda ads are the worst?
I almost want to take up smoking just to spite them.
>>75124121
Degenerate smoker here. Do nicotine pads actually work? Cause I quit for a few months a couple years ago. Nicotine craving got me back on though.
>>75126802
The filters are made of cotton... to soak up any extra tar that could seep out of the tobacco, plus you don't smoke the filter
>>75127172
Many would say the same about the shitposting leaf. But you're not over 18 years old so you shouldn't be here at all.
>>75127260
Do it. Then show them with some kind of proofs. They will cry in their jew meetings and before bed
The oldest woman who ever lived stopped smoking when she was 117 years old. You telling me she could of gone on to reach 150?
>>75127409
You country is smaller than my province dude, you should just shut the fuck up maybe?
>>75126599
noice
>>75126879
>goes to Country attacking
Don't lose focus you fucking twat.
Might need a cigarette.
How about this fucking anomaly.
>be 27
>can (and do) run 4km every day
>have well balanced diet
>work hard with my employees
>we all smoke
>smoking costs at the most 200$/month
You probably smoked 20+ cigerettes a day when you smoked. No wonder you lost your breath you fucking idiot.
Also one more fucking punishment for ya
>500$ vidya card
One poison for another, playing games will dull you out anon (no i ain't posting studies).
>>75124341
MD here the tar in your cigs causes the lungs to turn black.
>>75124121
Not if you want to kill yourself
>>75125009
Anecdotal evidence.
Not an argument.
>>75127481
Yes. Also japan and greece have the most smokers and the least lung cancer. Meanwhile some carrot-munchers die at 37
>>75127574
Little baby dick defending sweden and his cigs, you don't belong here.
>guys smoking and sweden is awesome, hoooraaay
>>75127576
Nothing else does. We live in a clean and bubbly society. Tell me about nicotinic acid and joint replacements and heart attack survival and benefits for mental illnesses and degenerative diseases?
>>75127514
I'm talking to a person not a province. Maybe time to stop posting now dude.
Besides what have you ever contributed to Canadian society, you're just some buttblasted 15 year old cannuck in alberta or some other shithole
>>75124349
/thread
Bunch of mouth fedoras in this thread
>>75127277
They suppress the urge for nicotine
>>75126933
Sorry, it's still not a proven link. That study doesn't factor in other lifestyle habits that have significant effect on hormones like eating foods with MSG.
>smoke weed rebellious meme
Come on dude don't hurt your credibility any more than you have to.
>>75127696
>crying about "bad for you"
>while having a big dick
Can't happen
>>75127260
I still remember raging back when they released the commercial that said a tobacco company executive on trial exercised his 5th amendment right not to self-incriminate 97 times like that's a bad thing. You're SUPPOSED to plead the fifth, that's why it was important enough to be in the founding fathers' short list of ten original constitutional amendments explicitly outlining civilian rights.
>>75124121
nice try shlomo
>>75124121
joke's on you, i smoke them because i want them to kill me. why would you want to live beyond the point of your body giving out anyways? most are approaching incapable by their 80s
>>75127743
I will stop posting, time to buy some groceries with my wife in my cool country that isn't half brown and tiny as fuck.
Enjoy the cancer goys.
>every doctor is lying
>>75127260
all the commercials they make for teenagers are funded by tobacco companies
they got banned from ads, truth is their proxy
>hello angsty, highly impressionable teenager - don't smoke! don't do it! it's bad!
>"fuck authority i do what i want"
>starts smoking
>>75127769
This is why THC is in every woman's tit milk. Kills babbies' balls. These anti smokers are ridiculous. Prolly drinkin beers in the process
Medical doctor here,
Fun fact, people who like to stick things in their mouth like toothpicks or cig's tended to not get enough attention when they were 0-18 months old, and especially didn't get fed enough breast milk.
>>75125009
There is also such thing as psychological addictions, I learned in my psych class that sometimes it's not just the nicotine that's addicting, the act of smoking and sucking is similar to infantile acts of sucking on a pacifier. There could have been some kind of stigma that stuck with that act and boom, the person is more receptive and probable to continue the act of smoking. To not strawman you, my point is some few, not all, may not really be addicted to the nicotine as much as they are the act.
>>75124121
healthy lungs or not, they're both dead
>>75124121
This guy knows whats up
>pic is a summary of smoking
>>75127881
You must be fun at parties
>>75127929
Life.gif
>>75124121
Most people that smoke are try-hard degenerates who will vote for Trump. Literal degenerates - not using the meme word. They are degenerating themselves and the integrity of the country.
>>75124121
Any tips from former nicotine addicts on quitting dip?
Yeah, yeah, I know it's gross. But holy shit is it hard to kick this habit. The cravings are brutal if I skip a day. I made it a few weeks chewing nicotine gum like a fiend... Not sure how someone could quit cold turkey.
>>75127170
Something "clicking" in your head IS attribution error. Not saying there's not a pattern there, but we're still years of research away from saying what weed specifically causes, and what people who like weed simply have in common.
>>75127980
>Most people that smoke are try-hard degenerates
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
Tell that to the military ya fucking weasel.
>>75127900
Fun fact while they were alive the non-smoker had a statistically longer life, and a better quality of life because they didn't have trouble breathing. Also fun fact they didn't waste money to die an early death and experience premature aging and poorer quality of health.
Maybe you should kill yourself because we are all going to be dead anyway right?
>>75128096
Back in the iron lung spruce moose plastic bubble with you.
>>75127655
"but he always lived so healthily" - just like the baseball sized tumor on his pancreas.
see, a smoker makes his body tough, so that makes it difficult for cancers to grow. but if you're a health freak, tumors are going to flourish.
Smoking is degenerate, terrible for you and a really stupid thing to do, but to call it "bluepilled" as though it has anything to do with one's ideology or capacity for thought shows how genuinely bluepilled OP is.
>>75124121
There is nothing wrong with being degenerate.
>>75127858
I-I'm no a kid. I'll blow him off by saying I'm gona do grown up stuff with my wife...what do mom and dad do?? Groceries!! They are always going out for groceries, I'll say I'm going to buy groceries and that is why I'm leaving.. not because I got triggered to a point where othee leaves got ashamed.
Bye have a nice night since it's like 12 o'clock at night depending on where in a Canada you are.
>>75128024
Pretty much everybody(except natives who always have broad shoulders even the girls) who was in the 'stoner' clique when I was in HS all had weak shoulders and shit and overall were pretty low test
>The risk of lung cancer associated with cigarette smoking was substantially higher in United States than in Japanese males, consistent with population-based statistics on smoking prevalence and lung cancer incidence. Possible explanations for this difference in risk include a more toxic cigarette formulation of American manufactured cigarettes as evidenced by higher concentrations of tobacco-specific nitrosamines in both tobacco and mainstream smoke, the much wider use of activated charcoal in the filters of Japanese than in American cigarettes, as well as documented differences in genetic susceptibility and lifestyle factors other than smoking.
>>75128290
That's called an anecdote, anon
>>75126459
Uhh your a retard. I picked up smoking when i was 15. Did it regulerly until i was 16. Then only when i was wasted until 18. Havent smoked in 5 years and i dont think i was ever addicted. I quit cold turkey when u wanted to. I did the same thing with drinking but that has actually made me feel like i was addicted when i quit.
Viva la muerte
>>75127576
go bruins
>>75124121
only libtards don't smoke
>>75128290
That's cool dude! Some guys I knew in the stoner clique included a state champion wrestler, a little league wrestling coach, and some guys who liked to sprint up a mountain at 5 in the morning.
>>75128401
>i secretly smoked one cigarette a day and hid it from my parents for a whole THREE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE days
>cigarettes are no longer obscenely physically addictive solely because I and a small percentage of others do not develop dependence on them
wew
>>75124121
all right, all right. this is my last pack, i swear.
What's worse,
being aware of the negative effects of smoking yet you still continue,
or intentionally using nicotine as a crutch?
Hey I dont care if people smoke, but it's a coin toss that I wan't to flip for when im older
>>75124121
I'm glad that, no matter how many bad traits I have, I'll never be a disgusting, nicotine-grabbing human volcano faggot
>>75127319
made out of plastic, bad for environment
>>75128171
>iron lung spruce moose plastic bubble
What???
I don't speak cucknuck
>>75127319
>He thinks the filter removes any tar.
AHAHAHAHAHAH
Pic related. After 1-2 cigarettes.
The black stuff is tar.
>>75124121
You know, you're right anon.
I'm not a smoker smoker, but I do smoke occasionally for that nic high. I'm going to stop doing that and throw my pack away.
>>75124941
True. People continue to eat the foods that are the main causes of chronic diseases and death in the western world. Absolutely stupid.
>>75128598
Also Jews are using the weed meme to control who young people vote for because they all think weed being illegal is an actual issue
>>75128081
>Military
>Not try-hard degenerates
Kek
>>75128651
I chain smoked. And would even smoke multiple at a time cause i was a fucking retard.
>>75124121
Why do the bureaucrats want to remind us "smoking is bad", I don't get it guys. Is this propaganda? What do they have to gain from this?
SOMEONE DROP A RED PILL ON CIGARETTES AND TOBACCO
Some of you blue pill claimers in this thread are actually nicotine users. Come on out, you've been summoned.
>>75129350
Reminds me of
>Global warming
Is it just a false-flag to push a certain agenda?
If so, what?
>>75129350
Nicotine helps remove fluoride from your body.
I like how it pisses people off so much now. It didn't used to, so it's further proof that the younger generation is mostly whiny.
>>75127696
>defending sweden
No, i'm saying resorting to flag be-littlement is one hell of a baby-tier arguement.
Give your nuts a tug and try again.
>>75125181
>[citation needed]
>>75129085
Nah bro, government exercising that level of power is the fucking issue. I've had close brushes with the law where weed being illegal almost ruined a solid year of my life.
Still waiting for an intelligent leaf, I don't know why they're so rare.
>>75129267
Shouldn't you be cross breeding with a maori slag.
>>75124121
we get it you vape
>>75129350
>Why do the bureaucrats want to remind us "smoking is bad", I don't get it guys. Is this propaganda? What do they have to gain from this?
By drilling into everyone's heads that cigarettes are evil and cause cancer it diverts attention away from the real cause of cancer which is fallout radiation from plutonium based nuclear testing.
>>75129350
It's probably people working in the health care industry where lung cancer is costing them billions of dollars every year.
>>75129514
Source?
Surely the goddamn bureaucrats don't want to keep us healthy and livid. Shouldn't they be doing the opposite and making our bodies weaker and dependent on substances like tobacco to appease "Big Tobacco" (is that a thing too or liberal propaganda??) Instead of running all these ads, warning labels, and age restrictions.
Those fucking bureaucrats don't give a fuck about us
>>75129752
hmmmmmmmm
>>75129641
We leave them to breed with themselves. Unlike your country, who will be breeding with mudslimes in no time thanks to your cuck PM.
>>75124121
No one in my long family chain of smokers ever died from lung cancer or any form of cancer but rather we have heart attacks. Get your bullshit myths out of here the only reason it is poison is due to the shit in the popular brands.
>>75125009
this
i smoked for a long time, pack a day, quit like nothing.
there's no addiction. people just like them and don't want to stop.
>>75129007
It just keeps the tar from touching your lips, which is not a pleasant taste. That happens a lot with cigars, but if you weren't such a faggot, you'd know that then.
>>75129823
http://beforeitsnews.com/power-elite/2014/01/nicotine-has-an-adverse-effect-on-fluoride-which-is-a-neuro-toxin-2444624.html
Just search for the links, there's evidence out there.
>>75125181
Fuck man, that peer-reviewed .jpg has me convinced.
>>75129980
What a fucking idiot, basing his beliefs of anecdotal evidence. So what, they die due to their shitty diet before the cancer can develop in their lungs? Congratulations.
>>75129887
So thats a yes.
>>75130053
???
People inhale the tar which is being vaporized. This collects around 90% of it, preventing it from REKTing your lungs.
>>75130129
Whatever you say, sandnigger's cuck.
>>75129765
Also keep in mind by the turn of the 20th century as many as one in every two Americans smoked. So if you needed a scapegoat to blame a noticeable uptick in cancer cases on and wanted it to be something people did to themselves so they feel guilty about it and don't question the narrative what better choice would there be than the most common habit?
>>75125009
The only people I've seen who have had problems quitting are people who already have addictive personalities. Even if they do manage to quit smoking, they end up on the pharmaceutical Jew later.
t. Used to smoke
>>75130136
I'm not arguing that you don't inhale tar, dipshit. I'm saying the filter prevents excess tar from seeping out of the tobacco and into your mouth, creating an unpleasant taste.
>>75130012
>people just like them and don't want to stop
that sounds like addiction.
>>75130093
You aussies really are cucks after all why the fuck are you so pissed over saying that no one in my family history that smoked got cancer? so what if they smoked i smoke and my future decendants smoke? what difference does it make?
>>75130992
Probably will smoke
>>75127985
Quitting dip was fucking hard. I weaned myself off of dip by buying pouches and rationing. The crazy thing was at my worst I was only at half a tin a day. I can't imagine how much harder it would've been if I had been on a can or more a day.
>>75127170
Alpha conquerer of nations and high intelligence scores here, fuck you retards and your anecdotes. Correlation equating causation is the cancer of modern "scientific study".
Learn proper reasoning and analytical skills. Or improve the gene pool either is cool.
>they're not addictive
so why is it the only thing I'm addicted to after doing hard drugs?
>>75130992
Because that's a stupid thing to say. You're somehow trying to use it as evidence to suggest you won't get cancer. Well if you eat meat, dairy and eggs as well as smoking you'll probably die of heart disease, diabetes or something else first, sure. But not living long enough to develop the cancer in the first place isn't exactly a 'win'.
>>75127886
This. I know I have a huge addiction this way with pot. The ritual of breaking up bud, packing a bowl, finding a good song or moment in some anime and taking a hit is just something else. Drinking just doesn't hold up as an experience.
>>75131136
>implying you've done hard drugs
>implying you're not just telling your self you're addicted because you can't stop smoking, but in reality the only addiction is the addiction to thinking you have an addiction
>implying you're not on hard drugs now
>>75124853
What your argument here? That no one should ever buy anything because Jews are selling it? How'd you get anything you use then? Mommy buy it for you?
>"Haha look at those dumb goys paying money to Jews for cigarettes daily" he says whilst giving kikes his money every day for food, clothing, entertainment, gasoline, etc.
Top kekaroony
>>75128320
Can you still smoke inside in Japan or have they gotten as cucked as us?
>You will never be a salaryman getting boozed up with your coworkers before coming back home to your sexy ass nippon-waifu offering her body and a pack of your favorite smokes.
>>75131286
I made the claim that the shit in the mass produced tobbaco is more likely to cause cancer over organic tobbaco not that cancer is impossible from organic. I have had smoking relatives (with the exception of one) who lived till their 60's and 70's.
>>75131605
I've done coke meth and opiates.
>>75131406
I haven't smoked weed in about two weeks now and that just sounds amazing. It's like getting to play an amazing video game everyday and suddenly not getting to play it anymore, it seems like nothing else in the world is as fun. But at the end of the day its just boredom, and boredom hurts until you have something fun as fuck to replace it with, thats really all you need despite your brain convincing you otherwise. The nicotine addict cannot replace the physical cravings no matter what they occupy themselves with.
>>75131779
Those are not hard to find at all.
>>75129549
Yeah same if they make the cops act on it(which rarely happens) it gives the impression that they don't want you but they really do. Just look at what hip hop has become. It's pretty much just promoting weed like it is safe while also promoting chink rcs as "Molly" and other Jew drugs for people that want to be extra edgy. The whole weed culture is spawned by this type of shit in the media and people are actually falling for the meme that it's better for you and therefore smoking it as much as they please. Even Bob Marley knew that shit was bad for you when he was diagnosed with cancer he stopped smoking weed and denounced rastafari. He was only a shill. The media pretends that never happened and uses him as an icon for le weed meme.
>>75131772
I agree with that statement, it's less shit for you. You do realize dying in their 60's and 70's is really young right? It's sad to see it has become normal for people to drop dead of a heart attack in their 60s.
>>75124121
You let the leftists propagandize you to control your behavior.
Congratulations on being one of the sheeple, OP.
>>75131953
Tobacco you can literally get evey couple blocks at the gas stations and convenience stores. How the fuck was that even an argument this isn't a contest for how edgy the drugs you do are.
>>75132166
So why did you reply? ;)
>>75124121
According to OP this is redpilled:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4srWvLXZRw
>>75131960
Look homie you need to go outside and fucking socialize with people. I know it's difficult with 10 people in your province but make an effort alright?
>>75132277
Sweet! I'm gonna get a bunch of my Bernie Bros together and we'll make tons of these all at once! So many glowsticks!
Thanks anon!
>>75131970
Going out in your late 60's and early 70's as long as you did what you loved is better then being sent to a nursing home and dying in your 80's and 90's. You also have to realize that death is unpredictable therefore you could still die young without the cigarettes (like being a fat fuck, or getting struck down by bullets).
I smoked for 7 of the last 10 years. Its fucking disgusting and I wish I quit earlier.
It's very hard to do if you don't have any external factors preventing you... but I want to say this, my smoking friends, youre only a 48 hour period from being thru the worst quitting will throw at you. Once youre over the first hump, the rest are easier, and the rewards come quick (not waking up with a fucked up throat, not wanting a cigarette every single morning/before you do a certain thing, clothes/breath not smelling like shit).
Also - smoking is terrible for your pets if you have them, they have tiny perfect little lungs weaker than yours. 90% of attractive women will also find you disgusting.. but, quit for selfish reasons. You'll feel *normal* again. You'll be more in control of your own behavior, and your mouth wont be so disgusting all the time.
Of course you can die anyway a million other ways.. but so what. Remember, nicotine is incredibly addictive shit tier drug and your brain is going to try and reason its way to stay on it. Beware of this. Don't give in. Also know that smoking relieves the anxiety it creates. It is not relieving your baseline anxiety. Once you're off them for a weeks or so, you won't need them because you won't be anxious.
Also important - just avoid people/situations where you're going to be around smokers. Fuck em! You just have one life and you need to protect it. Also try not to even talk about quitting or bring it up in conversation.
You'll be free soon, my friend, and may you live long.
>the red pill
if you keep your BMI less than 25 and can exercise without fainting, smoking wont kill you.
the people "dying" from smoking would've likely had that heart attack or that lung cancer anyways because they lived an unhealthy lifestyle or spend long periods (years) in an unhealthy environment (work related, smog in city, smoke in house). they were usually overweight and sedentary and died from being a sloth.
havent you ever seen a 90yo man smoking a cigar?
>>75124121
Yeah totally but it gets me laid fairly often
I smoke a 26 pack of jps golds everyday for 2 years now
>>75132516
You don't have to be sent to a nursing home and dying at 80 if you're healthy. Your longevity is mostly to do with your diet. The standard American diet (and the diet in my country too) is really bad. It will likely cause the death and suffering of all your loved ones.I wouldn't be surprised if less than 5% of Americans and New Zealanders knew what the actual healthier diet is.
>>75132834
healthiest.
>>75130329
?????
I've smoked ~100 cigars and I have no idea what unpleasant taste your talking about
>>75132917
Good cigars usually won't tar on you but shittier ones will, same goes for a pipe if you don't clean it
>>75124121
>Smoking one of the most blue-pilled, degenerate, and utterly retarded thing an adult can do.
I know.
But it's so hard to quit.
I had gone off it a full month before last tuesday. JUST
>tfw dad smokes a pack a day, has done so for over 34 years
>has to get shit cut out of his skin all the time
>coughs up blood every morning, retches until he cant breathe
>still refuses to quit or go to the doctor
;_;
>>75132383
Well, OP is a faggot after all.
>>75124945
Good on you anon
>>75132834
agree. americans eat meat 3 meals a day, 7 days a week. 3000-4000 calorie diet is average. packed with loads of unnatural shite. completely sedentary.
smoking tobacco or cannabis has little if any affect on health.
There is so much info about the harmful effects of smoking out there that you would think no one would smoke.
But they still do, and they even defend it as a good thing.
This thread is disgusting. You smelly degenerates belong in a 3rd world country.
>>75124121
>tfw loads of women smoke here
>>75133238
what does skin cancer and smoking have to do with each other?
what will the doctor do for him?
he should probably quit for a few months, he'll be as normal as anyone else in short order, the body just needs time to heal. he'll be right as rain in no time.
you should get him to a BMI less than 35 if he wants to live much longer though.
>>75133336
Yeah, although of course it's better to do neither.
>>75133342
you bought the smoking kills meme huh?
healthy, skinny people dont have heart attacks and contract various forms of cancer... unless completely hereditary ... which you'd be dead anyways from what is essentially a lottery system.
>>75133138
>entire family on dad's side all smoke
>most have died of smoking related diseases or other unhealthy habits
fuk me it is hard to quit
the longest I went is 3 months
>>75133586
when i said wont go to the doctor i meant for his lungs by the way
it doesn't really have anything to do with smoking but the cancerous skin patches are still worrying
he's tried quitting a few times, he just can't do it
i've tried to help but i can't do anything more for him, if he doesn't want to stop or get better i can't force him
>>75133633
from a religious and mental health aspect, i can agree. physically and medically, i do not agree.
>>75125152
And the ones that do don't use nearly the amount that those workers were exposed to.
I smoke because I enjoy it. Smokers always get a bad rap, but when they've stamped out smoking, the government will just move onto something else and tax the shit out of it/start the propaganda machine all over; Maybe they'll shift to a high tax on fast food chains and pop, since obesity in America runs rampant. Maybe a higher tax on gas or old cars, because they pollute the air.
Who knows.
>>75133830
Why do you not agree? Do you think it doesn't lower your lifespan even by a bit? Cannabis doesn't cause cancer, smoking does. Smoking cannabis still causes cancer. It also isn't healthy for your lungs, which gets more important as you get older.
who here /vape/?
>>75124941
>It's like people who still aren't vegan
Tree's have feelings too apparently.
>>75133586
Yeah the whole cancer thing is kinda a meme. Even according to the Jewish studies the odds are you won't get it. There are a ton of other health problems associated with it though that people tend to ignore and just say "muh lung cancer". I'm pretty sure if they talked about erectile dysfunction in all those anti smoking things no teens would smoke lol
>>75134109
No, but you have a body that isn't meant to consume animal products, and as a result you will die from a chronic disease caused by the consumption of your shit diet. Eating meat, dairy and eggs = Worse than smoking.
>it's a smokefags pretend they don't stink like shit and have bad breath thread
>>75134020
ayyy
>tfw all the vape shops in the area are all about MUH CLAHDS BROOOO
life is suffering
La la daaaa la daa doo dee saaa dada da....... rheŕŕrrre used to be a lonely tower on the sea....... yoooou became the light on the dark side of me..... MY POWER MY PASSION MY FLAME...... KISSSS ON A ROSE ON A GRAVE
>>75134585
i feel you
what are you vaping? my brother keeps begging me to buy that Cuttwood Unicorn Milk
>>75130065
>use things affecting dopamine.
No wonder my meds make me see things from a different point of view.
Though frankly I call bullshit.
>>75133732
You are a literal retard who does not understand human illnesses at all. You think if your skinny ass drinks water laced with reactive heavy metals you wont get cancer?
>>75134685
>Cuttwood Unicorn Milk
ahahahahahahahahahhahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha
>>75134685
Local juice. "Steel City Drank", it's at a Pittsburgh shop. It's not wonderful juice but it's cheap as all hell compared to other local shops. 30 bucks for a 120ml bottle. Currently have the peach rings flavor.
>>75132803
>thad
Fuck I remember that waifu loving pedo.
>>75133745
I'm more worried about the stroke side effects.
That runs in the family and latly i've been getting a bit light-headed too easily.
AROMATOSE INHIBITOR
>>75134010
Smoking the chemicals in cigs increase the chances of getting cancer. Weed literally has zero cancer causing agents. The worst it does is put smoke in your lungs, which will decrease breathing capacity. Neither one of them actually gives you cancer outright, but cigarettes/tobacco do have loads of chemicals in them that are cancer-causing agents which open you up to it. Not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer, but most people with lung cancer smoked.
>>75134410
>No, but you have a body that isn't meant to consume animal products, and as a result you will die from a chronic disease caused by the consumption of your shit diet.
Thanks greatest ally.
Every vegan I know is a cuck. It clearly reduces testosterone. My mother used to always make us meaty stews. That's why I'm over 6 ft when nobody in my family should be.
>>75134764
like i said
my brother is all about that junk
>>75134410
Meat and dairy are part of a balanced diet, m8. Literally every dietitian will tell you so. Not everyone wants to take supplements with their meals.
Fuck, the other day Four Corners did a story on how unregulated and dangerous supplements are.
>>75134895
Yes that's what I said, cannabis doesn't cause cancer, smoking it does. Don't believe the memes, people who smoke a lot of weed get lung/throat cancer just like cigarette smokers do, just less.
>>75134992
>Height
>Not genetics
Meat eaters have lower testosterone than vegans, believe it or not. You also consume milk right? Enjoy that estrogen, it will help you grow man boobs, give you breast cancer and reduce your fertility.
>>75134996
You don't need supplements to be vegan. Everything you've heard is mostly just people spreading misinformation that reinforces their bad eating habits and gives them a sense of justification that what they're doing is right. Meat and dairy aren't part of a balanced diet. The only reason they are recommended is because the medical profession thinks the American public is too pussy and stubborn to accept the science and instead waters it down by saying "reduce consumption" instead of "stop consumption." Not even Doctors get enough nutritional education. Would you trust a smoking Doctor to tell you you need to stop smoking? A fat doctor to recommend healthy lifestyle changes? No. Dieticians who eat meat won't recommend stopping, only reducing.
Redpill alert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0IhZ-R1O8g
>>75124121
I was reading this thread and i smelled something funny then i remembered i have not wiped my ass in weeks.
>>75124121
sempai you realize this is one of the few forms of socially accepted suicide available to me right? Also, the holy trinity of american narcotics are caffeine, nicotine, and alcohol.
>>75135341
>Meat eaters have lower testosterone than vegans, believe it or not. You also consume milk right? Enjoy that estrogen, it will help you grow man boobs, give you breast cancer and reduce your fertility.
Mate I'd have to chop off my balls to lose testosterone.
I reek of it to the point it's a put off. High metab, high energy, chip on my shoulder.
It's a problem because it's too much in working environments.
>>75135565
>You don't need supplements to be vegan
You can't get enough B12 from eating fruit and veggies alone. You either consume dairy or you supplement it. Human's are biologically omnivorous.
>>75134996
Rrright. Supplements are dangerous and estrogen-water with a side of carcinogens and antibiotic beef is perfectly safe.
>>75135621
The fuck?
>clearly a jew
>wants to force medication on people
Truly the most vile race on the earth.
I decide what meds I want, not you kike.
>>75124121
>Implying that there is something worth living a full life for
What's the point? By quitting smoking now, you'll get to see the death of Western Civilization first hand!
No thanks, I'll stick to my stress relievers that also shorten the period of pain, hatred and depression that is my life.
>>75125181
Does that include people who quit?
>>75135713
Google "unregulated supplements" and be amazed at how many people fuck up their health buying into an "alternative lifestyle".
>>75135673
No, we're actually meant to be eating fruit. Do you know where B12 comes from? Bacteria, which live in the soil and in the gut of even humans. The reason we can't get enough B12 from fruit and vegetables now is because everything we eat is unnaturally clean, and our water supply is also chlorinated, killing the bacteria which produce B12 in the water. I agree that supplementation is shit generally and it's much better to get your nutrients from wholefood sources. But B12 supplements are an alternative to carcinogenic, blood pressure elevating, diabetic causing, heart disease causing food so it's a lot healthier. There's a reason why adventist vegetarians have the highest life expectancy out of any group in the world ever.
>>75135781
>didn't watch it
He hates medication as prevention is better and more effective than drugs. You can literally treat people with diet rather than drugs. No side effects with the same or better results. How about you humor me and watch it? Tell me how shit it is after you watch it.
>>75135937
Yeah, the only supplement you need in a vegan diet is B12. No other supplement is worth taking except maybe Vitamin D as nobody gets enough.
>>75135939
m8, I'd rather just trust the science than what some rando says over the web. When dietitians start saying meat and dairy is bad, I'll believe them.
>>75135836
>No thanks, I'll stick to my stress relievers that also shorten the period of pain, hatred and depression that is my life.
Pussy.
Just let me handle the work, cuck.
I'm not even suited for the type of work I'm in, but only do it because cucks like you chicken out.
>>75126160
>Graduated in 2014
>Went to degenerate school with plenty of pot heads
>Wasn't offered any
I will never understand why smoking triggers so many people.
Also
>american
>wanting to get things banned because they offend you
i'm glad we are in decline.
>>75136172
Watch the video I linked earlier in the threat. Literally everything he says he cites directly behind him on the screen. All peer reviewed journal articles.
>>75136273
Sure m8, meat and dairy are secretly killing everyone. Gotcha.
>>75124121
>stop that because muh feelings
come back when you have an argument shitlord
>>75124121
>You have the disrespect to think you have the right to smoke your poison in public and contaminate other people's air.
Second hand smoke is bullshit. It was propaganda based in absolutely no fact whatsoever, but the fear machine started working and people ran with it.
>>75130321
daily reminder that addictive personalities aren't a thing
>>75136180
>OI MAIT LAT'S JUS HIT DE GOONSACK INSTAID
I consume no alcohol. I hate it. I don't do drugs either. I smoke at work and on my back porch at night and I just brood about how awful things are and how much worse they're going to get. Tobacco and vidya are the only things that bring me happiness anymore.
>>75136035
>You can literally treat people with diet rather than drugs. No side effects with the same or better results. How about you humor me and watch it? Tell me how shit it is after you watch it.
I'll tell you know.
It's literally to make the lower classes into serfs. I bet the medicative effects are negligible.
I notice he hates proteins, the stuff that gives us strength.
I take his lecture with a pinch of salt because I KNOW there's something dodgy in the Jewish community.
Oh look up what soros has done recently, yet more proof that there is something dodgy. I talked to Israelis that said they can't handle the shit some jews do. They lie and decieve because they are frightened of "usurpers" so to speak, or their own demise.
It's a joke, I just want the truth but they won't speak anything but lies.
Just come clean you cunts. Give us a chance to sort this shit out properly before you destroy this planet.
>>75136356
It's not a secret. It's just that nobody wants to hear it. If I was right, and it was killing everyone, would you stop eating it? Probably not, you're addicted. That is why you don't want to even look at resources which suggest things you don't want to hear. It makes you look stupid.
>>75125009
Big part of the addictive apsect is the oral fixation and the "social lubricant" effect it can have.
Environmeny plays a role as well. Ive quit cold turkey for years at a time and then picked the habit back up after working in an environment where there was very little stimulation and everyone else smokes. This applies to alcohol consumption as well.
no have no right to complain if tobacco companies are legally allowed to sell it.
>tax tobacco whah
>tax sugar boohoo
>tax alcohol :(((
where does it end?
>>75136398
Source?
>>75136486
>"I bet the medicative effects are negligible"
Okay buddy, you're seriously trusting your gut on a topic you've probably never researched over who is probably the most knowledgeable nutritionist MD in the world?
>>75136438
>Tobacco and vidya are the only things that bring me happiness anymore.
Find a purpose, even if it's pointless.
I do whatever I can to uncuck this shit.
Though my effect might be more apparent, being in Law and Finance.
>>75136514
I hear ya. You and that one vegan doctor are right and literally everyone else is wrong, and we're all secretly dying of cancer caused by eating meat and dairy even though I and many others are in perfectly good health without aid of unregulated supplements.
>>75136725
>Okay buddy, you're seriously trusting your gut on a topic you've probably never researched over who is probably the most knowledgeable nutritionist MD in the world?
I know jews fucked the finance system and have begun fleeing to Israel.
That says enough for me to not take their word. He could be right, but I can't trust that. He might change small interpretations here and there - infact I've had first hand experience of that occurring.
>>75124945
>literally fucking hate this pseudo culture that comes with it.
NO ONE CARES FUCKING DO WHAT YOU WANT TO
YOURE A GROWN ASS ADULT WHO FOUGHT IN A WAR
>>75125195
Inhalation fucks your lungs up, some people who smoke pipe tobacco and mosy people who smoke cigars dont inhale they just puff and the nicotine absorbs through through the mouth
>>75136783
No, not just cancer. Look up the main causes of death. Most of them are caused by consumption of animal products.
>>75136726
Right now I'm at uni doing CS. Doing well, I like what I'm doing but I really just hate the Marxist environment. I want to get out and move far far away from the noggified East Coast. Perhaps once I get out and have enough shekels to uncuck my life, I'll quit.
>>75136897
I think you're confusing "consumption of meat" with obesity. There's also more than a few academics who think Dr. Gregor is full of shit.
