>Quality of life on the level of Czechs, Poles, Spain
>quality free public education and healthcare
>85% of households are owners of the house/flat they live in, only 4% of them have problem with mortage payments
>16% unemployment and falling, due to uneducated bydlos emigrating to clean german/canadian/irish gutters and toilets
>less than 10 years average age of highway network connecting the country, modernization of railways started as well
>politicians were scared to death with Greece public debt tragedy so they are finally combating it (86% of GDP, slowing down, deficit is falling as well)
>increasing numbers of young urban families are going into agriculture
>every tourist season is better than the last
And still, entire nation is filled with ungrateful morons who only parrot how they have it hard and how they want to "leave this shithole".
To every single one of you that wants/will emigrante, from the bottom of my heart..thank you. Don't come back traitors, ever.
Serbia>croatia
Amen broski, and yet these same cucks that leave the country are gonna be the loudest "patriots" and whatnot.
>>75092846
Went to Split. Literally one of the most beautiful places I've ever been historically and geographically. Every Croat I met hated it and wanted to move to NYC, London or Berlin.
Start a heritage foundation or something.
Stage a few events for locals.
Remove Kebap before it is too late.
>>75092846
>quality of life on the level of Poles
And you wonder why they leave.
>>75092846
I think i read somewhere that your media openly promotes Emigration. I don't watch media so i dunno.
>>75092846
This country is making me sick, thank god I leave in a year as well. Why should I stay in this shithole if I can be somewhere where I am happier and will have a brighter future ?
>>75092846
i live in germany now and have a job with which i can pay a Audi a6 :^)
I'm Croatian diaspora but I was born in the US. I want to live in Croatia as soon as I get money to retire I'll go. I understand your annoyance of fake patriots they leave the country but are "proud Croats" when football time comes. It annoys me too.
When I went to Croatia a lot of Croats were amazed that I made $50k before taxes and complained how there average salary was 500 euros a month. But then they failed to realize 50k in NYC takes me as far as 500 euros takes them in Croatia.
>>75093529
>I'm Croatian diaspora but I was born in the US.
so you are not. fuck off
>>75093506
Good for you. But are you a 100% owner of a flat/house where you live?
From practical perspective, it is far better to own your own place and drive a crappy car than like true bydlo here, take a big ass loan for BMW/Audi and have empty fridge and be unable to pay your bills on time.
living in Balkans is tiring to many people
>>75093758
All the serbs and.Croats here call me that all the time in disgust. Meh I still love my brothers even of the hate me.
>>75092846
> Croatia
> Slovakia
> Slovenia
no idea why anyone living in these countries would want to move out. All GOAT-tier tbqh
>>75092846
>And still, entire nation is filled with ungrateful morons who only parrot how they have it hard and how they want to "leave this shithole".
what else can you expect from a nation with no sense of pride, with no history of libertarian desire, without so much as a national hero.
built on crime, lies and deceit. on betraying the people who extended their arm to you.
"sto se grbo rodi, vreme ne pravi" Kocic. it's like he described your joke of a nation
Ne znam, studiranje i posao vani je bolje. Ovdje su jedine opcije ili pravo,ekonomija, s elektrotehnikom se bolje zaradi vani. Turizam i ekonomija mozda rastu nekim tempom, ali vecina svega ce otic u džepove naših politicara.
Nije da ce mi nece nedostajati hrvatska, ali branitelji i kreteni koji upravljaju mi ga mogu popusiti.
>>75094452
Please return to the trashcan.
>>75092846
Emigrants are normally trash
>>75094792
fuck off stinky turk
>>75094047
no but a 3 room apartment. more than enough. feels good to actually get my paycheck every month. i worked at gasstation near zagreb and never got my fucking money to this date. But germany isn´t very better. everyone is trying to sell you shit and you literally can´t get a break of working. everything is mass production i´m tired. i want to leave for switzerland or france when i get 60 or something
>>75094839
I'm Serb, and terribly tired of you people and your shit.
>>75094452
Croats are shit but so are we to be quite frank with you family
>>75094452
cela planeta srpska vala
odjebi miloš nitko vas više ne shvaca ozbiljno.
napravite opet sranje i opet ćete imat jednu laganu traktorijadicu, ovaj put iz banja luke za beograd.
I speak 5th grade level Croatian since my parents emigrated from there and I long for the day where I say fuck it to this place and go "home". But the EU asskissing and refugee loving retards living there make me realize I am more unwelcome than those muslim shitskins. Beautiful country but needs to grow its balls back.
Whole balkan is cancer.
>>75095383
Go home and start the race war
>>75094937
then you must be some croat loving scum who knows shit about them.
>>75095029
>le we're all the same meme
are you a jugoboo or some shit? when did we kick out over 300.000 people out of their ancestral homes? the town I was born in now doesn't have a single Serb. first time in its 1000 year history.
>>75092846
I am Half Croat and Half Serb am i still accepted ?
>>75095520
RARE
>>75095383
>needs to grow it's balls back
meanwhile the whole fucking world can't stop shitting their pants and constantly writing about based Hasanbegović
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/06/croatias-far-right-weaponizes-the-past-ustase-hasanbegovic/
>>75095665
Why not.
>>75096232
Lovely
Hhaahaha good thread my friend. While Croatia is better off than most countries in the region it is in no way improving.
source: hrvat
>>75095721
>US flag
>rare
maybe drink less, hans
>>75095665
>I am Half Croat and Half Serb
That's not how things work here. The true question is are you catholic or orthodox?
These threads are always pretty boring to read, it always boils down to the same shitty arguments and discussions.
>>75096471
Orthodox,well i guess i wont be accepted
>>75092846
its okay if you want to leave, I guess it just falls to personal preferences.
if you like easy life, like the way of life in your town and are not hard to amuse, staying is a better option. If you have ambition that you think isn't achievable in where you currently live, want to see more of the world, are less patriotic and more "cosmopolitan" than you should emigrate probably. Both of which doesn't mean you'll stay there or that you won't be living somewhere else in ten years. you can't predict life, especially when you're coming from transitioning countries like ours are.
>>75095521
Actually pretty autistic when it comes to history, can tell the whole ww2 in the balkans event by event, one of the reasons why I find nationalist rhetoric retarded cause it's founded on lies, all of it, or at least on misleading.
>Fuck everyone that wants to emigrate
>To every single one of you that wants/will emigrate, from the bottom of my heart..thank you
getting some mixed messages here
Im Yugoslav from both mom and dad, will I be accepted?
>>75092846
>Be croat
>No muslims or niggers as far as the eye can see
>amazing beaches
>Hot women
>Wants to move to fucking hellholes
jesus christ.
I'm born croat, if i can i'll move back there, even though croats ruin the whole thing.
>>75097047
>Yugoslav
>2016
>>75092846
25% vat
25%
25%
I fucking cant afford any new technology because of that.
>>75097272
>be Croat born in USA
>visit dad's birth town in Razanac
>try to hook up with girls
>every girl I hook up with has a same uncle as me
Such is the life in Croatia.
>>75097671
>born not in croatia
>Thinks he's croatian
i bet you are one of those faggots that only know swear words are repeat them ad nausea.
>>75096154
>him
>based
Saw him once on the street, the guy looked like he was affraid someone was gonna assassinate him any second, fucking sick mudshit.
>>75097671
>go to a tiny, barely populated vukojebina
>surprised that everyone is related
>implies that's representative of the whole country
come on, you're not even trying
>>75095521
>when
late 19th century and early 20th century kek
i wanna leave because i'm bored
i wanna live in ameriga, drive pickup trucks, camp and shoot shit
>>75098114
>drive pickup trucks, camp and shoot shit
There's literally nothing stopping you from doing that here
>>75096575
agreed
Croat from Herzegovina here. Croatia is beautiful country and I have a lot of relatives all over Zagreb and Rijeka, but I just don't feel too comfortable there anymore, the lefty stink is growing stronger and stronger every day, the media is in jewish claws, 90% of politicians are traitors, average Orjuna youth and midages like Serbs and Gypsies more than other Croats, etc. And it won't be long before Serbian SDP regains the governing. Long are gone the glory days of Tuđman.
>>75098269
Disgusting nazi cunt.
My fiancee has land in Croatia, I'm assuming in the middle of nowhere.
Any guesses as to how much it'd cost to build an average house? ballpark of course.
I'm just wondering if its $10,000 or like 50k or something.
>>75097967
I have dual passport you dumb fuck I am literally Croatian.
>>75098463
You can build a nice house for 20-30K.
>>75098391
I was in Serbia a few months ago and saw niggers on posters for an opera? or something and degenerate western television.
The jew has his fangs in every country in E. Europe.
>>75098437
Disgusting commie degenerate
>>75098471
you're probably 1/64th cherokee , apache, polish and irish too right?
>>75098463
The problem isn't money moreso as it is finding the paperwork to confirm that is your land that the government recognizes and finding Croatian workers who aren't lazy fucks. My dad has a tiny house like 2 BR vacation house took two years to build. No one wants to fucking work.
>>75092846
The only thing stopping me from maintaining a house and farm in Croatia is money. One of our few actually good, non-traitor journalists is Radley Balko, he blogged pics of Croatia regularly, it is beautiful.
>>75098578
Thanks! We could buy a ramshakle farm for 10 or 20 k in Serbia, but I'd rather not fix stuff every week.
>>75098471
So does the entirety of herzegovina and they are hardly croatian
Unless you have a Croatian ID and know the language, you can fuck right off.
>>75098725
I don't have a cherokee,Apache,polish and irish passport.
>>75098463
dont listen to the bosniak
>15.000 euros for government permits and licences
>30.000 to 60.000 to build the house (depends on the size and materials too)
>>75093274
>just fuck my shit um fampai
>>75098771
>passport doesn't make you a citizen
Ok. I speak the language though even though it's literally pointless to learn.
>>75098688
Filthy ustaša inbred.
>>75098391
luckily for you you live in a shithole desert and are left alone for the whole eternity
>tfw ex-emigrant (only 6 months, though)
>tfw returned home because hated myself for leaving
>tfw takes me 20 days here to earn what i made in 4 days there
>tfw feeling like i'm wasting best years of my life
i want to open my own business but i'll get taxed into oblivion and fugged in every orifice by stupid regulations
>>75098736
zing!
funny you should say that. My fiancee was telling me we needed to hire a guy to show us the land and mark it out.
She said Serbs don't want to work either. They all have masters degrees and no job prospects. It's very strange to see from a burger perspective.
>>75098821
only 15,000 for permits? that's it?!?
heh I didn't even think about something like that. I would have guessed a few grand at most.
Thanks, Croat-bro.
>>75094047
When rapefugees invade to Germany their first instinct seems to be "need BMW", too. I wonder where this meme comes from.
Let's be real here when you get away from the coast Croatia really is a shit country the further inland you get. On the coast though everything is so cash.
>>75092846
Fuck i dont get it, Croatia is beautiful as fuck i'd rather live as homeless in your country than in Poland but i love my shithole.
>>75094799
So fucking true i know a lot of hungarians who are planning or alredy emigrated and if i had to guess their avrage iq is barely above nigger level,
>>75094850
>immigrating to Switzerland with a retirement portfolio built in a country with half the wage
Good luck, you'll starve to death.
>>75099011
>t. American tourist
>>75098935
Nah, I'm fine, I have a nice job, two cars and house, the border is literally 10km away. How you doin, Izmet?
>>75098918
Fucking shitskin traitor
>>75098391
>Tuđman
It's funny to see far-righters and ustašoids claiming Tuđman, a Partisan general and Tito's friend.
>>75099013
I've been to your shithole when I got off the train at Szczecin all the homeless people lined up and did the hail Hitler salute as we got off the train shit was so cash.
>>75092846
You're dead right, Hrvat.
>>75098269
nah
i cant buy a gun legally
also camping outside of designated camping sites is ilegal
>>75099003
>only 15,000 for permits? that's it?!?
maybe even more, someone has to finance the government parasites.
croatia is fucking socialist/big government piece of shit nation.
>>75099164
Yes because split and Dubrovnik aren't popular at all around the world everyone wants to go to fucking Zagreb, a no frills typical European city.
>>75092846
>every tourist season is better than the last
and you're welcome
>>75099250
Moronic gentile filth.
>>75099215
better than you border rock boy.
>>75099403
>i cant buy a gun legally
Which means you're either under 18, have a history of violent crime, are mentally unstable or physically incapable of safely handling a firearm.
So are you a kid or a degenerate?
>>75092846
They will come back. They always come back. Calm your manboobs.
Pic related makes no sense. Why are there town signs with slashes in them? We're they blown up during the war?
>>75099890
Forgot pic. Wtf does this sign mean
>>75099731
Ten goats to fuck must be Sierra Madre treasure for you.
>>75099929
that means you're leaving Zamaslina
>>75099983
That's retarded. Whenever I saw it I assumed the town doesn't exist anymore.
>>75099627
Brainwashed zionist puppet
>>75099816
>They will come back.
doubt it. have many relatives in Switzerland and Austria who will never come back.
maybe those who go to Germanistan will eventually come back once it becomes worse than Croatia.
>>75099736
can you give me a source on that
i heard that you can buy one for self defense only if you can prove that your life might be in danger at the time
whatever that means, our laws are pretty dumb
>>75092846
>16% unemployment
Dude..That's really bad lol.
>>75092846
Give it time Hrvatska. You sold your country to the EU. It will get a LOT worse very soon.
>>75099929
Stop making us look retarded
>>75100074
He did nothing wrong in the period between 1941-44.
>>75099971
go suck on a rock retard
also nice flag
>>75099456
practically nothing changed, all those big companies got taken over by the same people now living in pic related's, away from the plebs, while the forementioned plebs, now even less of them employed, pay ridiculous amounts of taxes for all those leeches working for the gubmint.
>>75100074
Zagorci>Hercegovna
>>75100038
no it's not
>>75100177
its probably even more. they dont include people who are unemployed and gave up searching for jobs. its statistical manipulation, just like obama does.
>>75100074
Shitty fascist apologist.
>>75100292
zaboravio sliku
>>75100038
Only a braindead Ramirez like yourself would think such thing.
>>75100309
You need to get out. This is Axis country.
>>75100289
we dont have so many new parties and politicians for a reason. Its the most sought after career in this shit country.
>>75092846
>free public education and healthcare
>free
Maybe thats why.
>>75100186
>>Give it time Hrvatska. You sold your country to the EU. It will get a LOT worse very soon.
This.
Once you join the EU, you no longer have a country. Not saying that my nation is any less jewed.
>>75100411
No.
>>75100309
despite it's ugly backround story, this is a nice painting
>>75100411
Your constitution says otherwise
>>75100136
>i heard that you can buy one for self defense only if you can prove that your life might be in danger at the time
>i heard
>im too stupid to look up actual laws
http://narodne-novine.nn.hr/clanci/sluzbeni/2007_06_63_1959.html
Zanima te članak 6, 7, 10, 12
>>75100463
our country was shit before we joined. most of us were pro EU because of the expanded job market.
but yeah, it was a mistake. If we couldnt fixed our country on our own, it was stupid to think EU jews could do it for us.
>>75094684
Branitelji nemaju veze s tvojim problemim. Krivi usrane političare i usrane zakone koji se nikako ne minjaju na bolje
Well OP I'm not surprised. Everyone's attitude these days is "gimme gimme gimme". No one wants to try to work to build something worthwhile, they all just want to chase after the money, wherever it is at the present moment.
But fuck man, not all the money in the world could make living in a shitskin infested rathole any better.
>>75100662
>our country was shit before we joined.
better that than losing control of your borders and nation completely, but yeah, I'm sure it sounded like a gift at the time.
They would have found a way to make it happen no matter what, unless Putin rolled tanks in or something.
>>75099618
We appreciate your business.
>>75100762
>Krivi usrane političare i usrane zakone koji se nikako ne minjaju na bolje
Šta očekuješ? Da će političari izglasati zakone koji će smanjiti njihove prihode i ukinuti radna mjesta njihovim prijateljima i rodbini.
Prije će izglasati za dodatno smanjenje mirovina umirovljenicima.
>pic related, retired woman surviving in croatia
When does the Palace hotel re-open in Malinska ? Has the re-furb been completed?
>>75100074
Fucking fleeing coward
>>75100309
Fucking commie scum.
Both of you fuck off.
>>75101224
Cujes muziku revolucije, druze.
>>75099929
hey, I live pretty close.
also kek'd
>>75100177
It was 25% in 2008. This is a noticeable improvement.
>>75101035
our politicians are shit. we had big government since the country was created.
croatian people are basically cattle (krivousti even called us like that)
>>75101400
A bend večeras predvodi dr. Zlatko Hasanbegović.
>>75101457
are you retarded? you dont have to be registered as unemployed to get healthcare since 2 years ago. do you know how many people are unemployed now but not registered. Its just statistical manipulation you dumb piece of shit.
>>75100432
Point is we are able to pay for it, keep its satisfactory quality and not drive ourselves into the financial oblivion of Greek magnitudes.
>>75101492
>croatian people are basically cattle
'murricans are sheeple defined. People think I'm crazy when I tell them the evening news is just propaganda and the government doesn't have their interests at heart. We grew up believing all the lies.
>by the way, damn your English is good
>>75092846
>Quality of life on the level of Czechs, Poles, Spain
So... appalling?
>>75101224
We "just" need a strong patriotic young party having 2/3 of people in Parliament. "Most" had some ideas but that party was never made to be permanent (once you cross it is over) and they did not have a strong/right trigger.
>>75100580
>1) da ima opravdani razlog za nabavu oružja
>>75093176
hipsters and cocksuckers.
tbqh croats and south slavs in general have no inbetween: they are totally bro tier or are incredible fuckheads
>>75101272
Like any of this matters.
>>75101800
>"Most" had some ideas
Initially i thought so too. They ended up looking like the most incompetent bunch I've ever fucking seen. Can't believe I voted for those idiots.
>>75101846
Članak 13:
>Fizička osoba ima opravdani razlog za nabavu oružja za samoobranu ukoliko dokaže da je njezina osobna sigurnost ugrožena ili bi mogla biti ugrožena u tolikoj mjeri da joj za njezino osiguranje treba oružje te ukoliko zbog naravi posla ili okolnosti u kojim ga obavlja postoji potreba za nabavom oružja, a aktivnostima i mjerama institucija sigurnosti ili drugim mjerama se ne bi mogla osigurati dostatna zaštita.
>Fizička osoba ima opravdani razlog za nabavu lovačkog oružja ukoliko posjeduje lovačku iskaznicu.
>Fizička osoba ima opravdani razlog za nabavu športskog oružja ukoliko se aktivno bavi športskim streljaštvom.
>>75102356
the point stands
whatever, my dad has a couple of pieces from canada so i guess i could use that
>>75101608
Why are you worshipping a man who's life work was to secure the position of muslims in Croatia. He isn't a nationalist, he's just sounds appeling to fuckheads like you because "muh make croatia great again" idea, when in reality all he didi was cut some meaningless pseudo-cultural groups for goverment funding.
He's main works include:
1. Muslimani u Zagrebu 1878.-1945. Doba utemeljenja, Medžlis Islamske zajednice u Zagrebu-Institut društvenih znanosti Ivo Pilar, Zagreb, 2007.
2.Jugoslavenska muslimanska organizacija 1929.-1941. (U ratu i revoluciji 1941.-1945.), Bošnjačka nacionalna zajednica za Grad Zagreb i Zagrebačku županiju-Institut društvenih znanosti Ivo Pilar-Medžlis Islamske zajednice u Zagrebu, Zagreb, 2012.
3.Jugoslavenska muslimanska organizacija od uvođenja diktature kralja Aleksandra do Sarajevskih punktacija (1929.-1933.), // Pilar - časopis za društvene i humanističke studije, sv. V, br. 10(2), (2010.)
4.(Tro)jedan narod. Bošnjaci, Muslimani i Hrvati muslimani u Hrvatskoj u popisima stanovništva 2001. i 2011. godine, // Društvena istraživanja: Journal for General Social Issues, sv. 23, br. 3, (2014.), str. 427.-448.
See a pattern here? The guy's a bigger cultural marxist than SJW.
>>75093176
>wanting to move to Jew York, Londonistan and Cuckcity
I hope they enjoy it there.
>>75102722
>the point stands
Koja poanta? Učlaniš se u lovačko društvo i imaš opravdani razlog da dobiješ dozvolu. Nemoraš lova ni vidit.
pic related, my baby
>>75102848
SUPER RARE
>>75097671
my father is also bon in Razanac
>go there once every year
>every girl has the same last name as me
>>75103115
is it ZASTAVA made SVD?
>>75093176
>Every Croat I met hated it and wanted to move to NYC, London or Berlin.
"the grass is greener on the other side"
they have no idea that the price is their souls and their children who won't exist.
>>75100309
https://youtu.be/Y9-mYg5VDzQ
>>75103115
jebeno
koja je to?
nisam baš /k/
>>75094092
it's envy and not understanding
the sense of pride of being croatian or serbian and the connection to those cultures runs much, much deeper than the individualist shit lives we live in the west. they don't know that and they don't see it. they think we're fake and that we lived in a land that just handed us everything.
a cuban friend of mine who teaches in a law school made it clear to me when she said "all the lazy cubans stayed in cuba"
>>75103433
Jokes on you, I like this song.
>>75103115
/k/ here. details on the funs plox
Price/make/caliber etc
in trade I submit muh Glawk
>>75092846
>Quality of life on the level of Czechs, Poles >Spain
you have no idea what you're talking about
>>75103320
Probably, zastava guns have those 3 holes on the barrel wood part instead of 2 like soviet ones
Poland is plagued by nepotism and corruption, if you don't have connections you won't have a job at all.
>>75103320
Yeah, tho it surpasses the SVD in accuracy due to being 8mm, while costing half as much. You can buy one online here in Croatia for $500 in perfect condition.
>>75103497
M76 Zastava
>>75103624
answered all above
>>75103600
It's a pretty good song m8
>>75103813
>You can buy one online here in Croatia for $500 in perfect condition.
They cost $1000-$1700 in USA
>>75103736
Every slavic country is like that(maybe exept Czechs)
>>75104113
http://www.njuskalo.hr/ostalo-oruzje/puska-crvena-zastava-m76-oglas-18715880
~$416
http://www.njuskalo.hr/sve-ostalo/poluautomat-m76-oglas-18252994
~$595
http://www.njuskalo.hr/ostalo-oruzje/karabin-zastava-m76-poluautomat-oglas-13491529
~$297
Been to split and surroundings multiple times
Definitely on my list for emigration
>Croats are just based people
>>75092846
>Quality of life on the level of Czechs, Poles, Spain
Is this supposed to be a point FOR EU?
>>75093176
And here's me, an American born from Croatian parents, wanting to go back to the country I never visited.
[spoiler]I lie, I went for vacation once. It was great[/spoiler]
