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Can we get a military hate thread going?

>scrape retards from the bottom of society
>give them minimal training and guns
>send them overseas to rape children
>throw a temper tantrum whenever anybody says anything about them
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of course
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>>75053622
fug you
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>>75053622
Here's the problem with the modern US military.

America has wanked itself dry of this warrior worship. It's a massive spillover of patriotism from when we last really needed soldiers to go and fight people - WWII.

Every war after that the government has had to prop of these worthless idiots with no sense of duty to go and fight for their interests.

The government wants to keep that number of warm bodies high so they recruit endlessly even though we have no real wars to fight and no real enemies who threaten us. So they shove this warrior worship down our throats so that we accept them as "better" than us for "serving their country."
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>scrape retards from the bottom of society

I'm ex-military but you're fucking stupid if you think the military is bad because it gives a job to idiots age 17-25. If those fuckups didn't go into the military to be babysat they would be doing even stupider shit with you faggots in the civilian world. You should actually thank them for at least this little bit.
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>>75053622
how is dearborn this time of year?
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Where his head go?
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>>75053622
Woah, that's some clever shit, calling the military bottom of the barrel retards. Your opinion is not only extremely valid and logical, but probably also not representative of some underlying insecurity that is brought about by the fact that you're actually a gigantic pussy who claims objection to military service as an excuse fir his own cowardice. You, sir, are a true national treasure, and I would be deeply saddened if you tried to suck the buisness end of a shotgun, so don't do that.
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>>75054057
Shouldn't you be sending drone strikes against innocent civilians somewhere?
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>>75054378

please see

>>75053622
>>throw a temper tantrum whenever anybody says anything about them
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>>75054381

>ex-military

>thinks I'm doing military shit right now
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>>75053622
>Americans spend trillions giving these frat boys weapons
https://youtu.be/mYgDu7G3U_c

Fucking hell. This country is a disgrace
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>>75053689
>>75053746
>>75053867
>>75054032
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>>75054314
And this is why I have recurrent hardcore nightmares of human dead bodies, body parts and entrails
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>>75054378

kek, only proving OP right.

>hurr durr you didnt fail out of high school and join the army like the other degenerates?! hahaha what a pussy
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>>75053746
>too much of a pussy to grab the decapitated head by the hair
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>>75054378


Very true bro. This faggot's logic is so stupid it's not even funny. He's bashing the military for "scraping retards from the bottom of society". Where do the retards come from "society". From his world. From the civilian population. He wants to bash the military instead of fixing up his fucking sector "the society and civilian population". Sure the military has it's shitheads but if you were to count heads at how many dumbasses float around in the military and how many float around in the civilian world the graph would need to be so fucking big just to be able to even show the small number of jackasses in the military and the number of fools that make up society. The sad thing is he's one of them. some loser hovering on 4chan and /pol/ or all places.
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>>75054537
This pic needs to be seen by all the butthurt patriotards
YOU ARE FIGHTING THE WRONG WAR
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>>75054549
Why get your hand dirty by touching a subhuman ? Personally I'm disappointed that they didn't piss on that thing.
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Glad to see that Iraq is still butthurt :^)
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>>75054764
Shows that they are too dainty
Our ancestors scalped Indians
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>scrape retards from the bottom of society

there's your problem
minimal graduation from community college should be required to join the army
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>>75054840
You lost :^)
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>>75054939
In non-wartime, this probably isn't a bad idea. We already turn down more people than we take in, so we don't NEED the massive influx of highschool grads/dropouts. In wartime, however, you take any warm body that can point a gun.
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>be american
>get shot
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>>75054977
>instilled democracy and killed brown people

Nah mate, we did exactly what we came to do.
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The military isn't the problem. The government is. Most of the guys in the military are great. Policy is going to weaken the military's fighting ability to the point where they can't even protect themselves, let alone their country, which inevitably they'll one day recognize as no longer being worth fighting for. But at least 10% of COs will be transgendered otherkins.
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>>75053622
Tanks making love?
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>>75053622
>A solider fucked my gf the post
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>>75055082
I just wanted to add that we haven't been fighting to protect our countries for decades. We're fighting to protect Israel and Jewry. That isn't the grunts' fault.
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>>75055015
Yeah, we all know an american is more likely to get shot than a sand nigger from literal Iraq
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>>75054426
>>75054531
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm only saying that OP is surely someone with his life in order, far superior to all those dick swinging, monkey retards that are in the military. I also particularly like his argument he put up that says that anyone disagreeing with him is throwing a temper tantrum, thus validating his argument. That is the epitome of logic and not at all fallacious. He sure showed those military fucks that are all off getting doing amazing things all over the world. He probably says these things to their face too, and doesn't just post about it online like some limp dicked cuck.
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https://twitter.com/1st_infantry/status/735437761067384832
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>>75054057
Nah bro, I get what you're trying to say, there's the start of some truth to it, but do you have any idea how much money we spend on that?

Young men do need rites of passage, but we can give everyone 4 years of warrior college out in the woods with stone-age weapons for about 1/100000000th of the price and it would have the same effect on psychology and development, well better really since no PTSD.

>>75054091
>seesomethingsaysomething-1.jpg
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>>75055218
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
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Fuck off, mate.
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>>75053622
Your hate for it mainly stems from outside factors, they can only obey or they'll have insubordination on their record(which they wouldn't want at all).
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Juba the pig hunter
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>>75055047
>Iran controls Iraq
>More brown people than ever and they are all coming to the West
You lost
Hope you had fun and the PTSD doesn't bother you too much
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>>75054057
I don't think anyone is attacking the concept of having A military, dude.

We're attacking the military as it exists for being fucked up because it is.

And that's not the fault of the soldiers, it's the fault of politicians, bureaucrats, generals, and traitors in the Military Industrial Complex, which anybody with a brain knows is not all bad.

Nothing is more frustrating than the fact that soldiers always perceive every attack on anything wrong in the military as an attack on all soldiery and the concept of valor itself, and truth, justice and the American way.

Soldiers and civilians alike need to realize that we're all on the red list together. My fault, your fault, nobody's fault.

This country's being set up for something BAD, I hope everybody's thinking hard about when it'll be time to stop going along with it.
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>>75054057
they'd just die of drugs or get a shitty job as vomit cleaner in a mcdonalds
you give them guns, power and a false selfconciousness that builds on the feeling being a soldier sent by a superior power
i know what kind of people go to the military and i believe most of them shouldn't
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>>75054549
I wouldn't fucking touch it either, every single motherfucker over there has fleas.
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>>75055479
This is why they are patriotards
It's like you've touched their raw amygdyla
We tell them over and over they are used for neocon wars now we just fuck with them for reaction
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>>75054939
>>75055521
Yeah, right? Look at these degenerate fucks. I bet they couldn't hold down their McDonald's job so they decided to do this. I bet all of you guys could do that in your sleep.
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>>75054522
what are those morons?
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>>75055301
>2012
>Before ISIS took over your country

Oh, okay hun, okay.
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>>75055047
>instilled democracy
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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This is actually what worries me most, lately. I've been studying hard and preparing myself physically to join our national officer school, to go infantry. I'm doing this because I've been passionate about our army since I was a child. But the more time passes, the more military I meet, the more I understand most officers are insufferable career queens, most grunts are stupid as fuck and hold no love for the country or the military whatsoever.

So is it true? Is it hard to find your place in the army when you've got any sort of understanding of the world and any sort of interest for intellectual matters?
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>>75053622
What happened anon? Did one of them beat you up or fucked your girlfriend?
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>>75055227
>amazing things all over the world

wow haha the brainwashing really worked on you didn't it
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>>75055479

Well then why not start a politician hate thread?
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>>75055807
I see a lot of kids who I hope to God will be helping us fight Chinese and Russian troops who are already activated inside of this country.

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/05/15/twenty-year-old-un-plan-to-invade-the-us-found-in-newly-re-discovered-documents/

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/05/13/critical-update-foreign-troops-are-positioned-to-attack-americans-and-the-american-military/

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/05/12/secret-military-maneuvers-foreign-mercenaries-civil-war-drills-will-there-be-an-election/
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>>75056307
I didn't start this thread, I think OP is a fucking idiot, but I hope people can come in here and have an intelligent discussion just to spite the bastard.

How's that?
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>>75054111
Kek called him out!
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>>75056094
T'es français ou amerifat in vacation ?
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>>75055683
this. you can't reverse their brainwashing unless you're actually professionally trained to do so. since the moment they got off the bus at basic they have been trained to associate any and all disagreement with stereotypical hippie queer degenerates. even as they read my post they are imagining me as a hippy-dippy long-haired card-carrying member of the communist party because this is the image that has been burnt into their minds by months/years of indoctrination.

there is also an element of lashing out against those that would treat them as anything other than special, since that is the way they are treated by the mainstream. it's a sense of entitlement borne out of experience that is itself a result of percieved superiority.
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>>75056307
Because if the politicians did not have dumb goys like you to die for their kickbacks and global visions the war wouldn't get off the ground now would it?
Accept responsibility and learn or you will be the white South African special forces serving the ANC as your country slides into the third world
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>>75056745
I know what you mean
I've argued with cuckservatives and kosher nationalists online about Israel and Jews and they accused me of being Muslim
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>>75056877

Nigga, civilians are just as much slaves, you pay those politicians' wages and vote them in.
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>>75054314
Third panel
>That booty tho
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>>75057127
Two wrongs don't make a right, do they, sojer boy?

C'mon, admit it, you know that the NWo is real and you KNOW that they are setting you guys up, right?
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>These are the same people that will cry for help once shit starts going down

lel faggots
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>>75056234
More amazing than working for a buisness you don't care about for 40 years because its the only way you pay your bills.
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>>75055683

Yeah because "Can we get military hate thread going" isn't a direct insult on military and every single one of it's members.
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>>75057359
i wasn't aware camouflage uniforms are a pre-requisite to whatever charity labour you think is "amazing"

>>75057470
i'm here to make you feel insulted
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Militaryfags are the biggest welfare queens

>I voluntarily chose to do a job for money knowing full well how bad war can be
>therefore I deserve free college, benefits for the rest of my life, government sponsored programs to find work for me, and eternal gratitude because I cleaned toilets and helped expand US global oil domination
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>>75057127
>that wonderful democracy you spread rember?
Someone will be found to vote for them
Also I'm being diluted by a horde of browns so soon my vote won't make a difference if it ever did
But you have a simple and effective tool
Don't fight, don't enlist, don't re-enlist
They maybe able to duck with our democracy by importing hordes of welfare collecting layabouts and degenerates but whites still are the soldiers and they can't be replaced by Daqjuan
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>>75053622
>fill their heads with nonsense about how they're heroes who protect America
>send them home with an undeserved sense of superiority
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>>75053622
INHALE FREEDOM EXHALE PATRIOTISM!

you make me fucking sick you degenerate
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This whole thread is cringe filled with edgy teens and assblasted Muslims. All degenerates.
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>>75057236

When you're a soldier, you're a soldier. You agree to serve your country in the way it asks you to.

It's not our job to think it's up to the fucking population of the united States to not vote in some fucking war hungry jackass. How about you vote in as president that reflects what the country wants.
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>>75057733
>I'll pull triggers on american citizens if i'm told cuz i don't get paid to think

>>75057720
:^)
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>>75057586

"I couldn't help things even if I wanted, why evem try"

Yeah and here you are guiding us on how to make a difference. The "i will support by watching" mentality. You're a sorry piece of shit you just don't know it.
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>>75057359
>Delivering welfare to third world niggers
>Amazing
Where do you think you are?
That marine commercial delivering aid was the gayest shit I've seen >>75057470
Don't get rustled
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>>75057733
Something something unlawful order something something
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>>75056586
Français.
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>>75055807
See this guy? He is the GOAT of the Class of 2016.

He is ranked last in his class.
He has a 2.0 GPA.

He has accomplished more than you ever have and ever will.

He has a guaranteed job after graduation.
He will be a commissioned officer in the US Army.
If he should decide to leave the military, he has a support network that can get him employed in any number of civilian sectors.

He is set for life.
He also gets one dollar from every other graduating classmate, which is a bit over one grand.
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>>75057961
but he accomplished nothing and never will
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>>75057470
>Criticize a institution that has obvious flaws in its system
>Hur Dur you are insulting every one of us
As someone who has a brother who served 9 years and did 7 tours in the Air force I can tell you that a good portion of Those in the military only do it for the money. And their is just as much "degeneracy" in the armed forces than there is in regular civilian life
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>>75058041
t. Edgy NEET
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>>75057720
Unless you're coast guard and literally protected our borders you're just a slave to zionosm and a good goy.
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>>75053622
>Can we get a military hate thread going?
>>75053689
>of course

Hey look at who was first to join you, makes you think, right?
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>>75054057
This. A lot of civil wars have broken out mainly because the military stopped recruiting. Bunch of hot-headed unskilled young men roaming about tend to join edgy political causes and cause trouble. That said OP is right the wars they go to are bullshit
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>>75057922
I am helping by not joining the military just as I've advised all of you :^)
I'm not the one who has participated in an institution which has helped destroy the white race continually
You had a choice and you had the info and if you didn't then that's forgivable but you should know now that the military is stupid and evil
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>>75058086
wonderful projection sir but i already called you and your boys out on that trick

it's cool though you got paid in tax dollars to dig wells in impoverished villages while wearing camo don't worry about me
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>>75057961
But what if he gets blown up while fighting for the Jews?
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>>75058254
Alright, what are you doing posting stupid shit on a weekday morning then?
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>>75058254
I'm not military so you trying to label me as one doesn't work. I'm truly sorry that someone in a uniform didn't hold a door open for you or has a girlfriend and family unlike you. Whatever it is, I'm sorry you have to be so edgy you could cut granite.
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99% of what the military does is just sit around with their thumb up their ass and maybe do something gay as fuck for a couple of days every month which is where they earn their paycheck.

It's not something to worship, but it isn't something worth hating either.
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>>75058323
shh the green men don't wanna think about how they are gonna get killed by IEDs while another man is fucking their wife back stateside
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>>75057944
T'as quel âge? Tu prépare quelle école?
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>>75054381
>Muslim
>innocent

All sandniggers should die.
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>>75058202
I feel like all of this shit only really applies to US forces. The only thing I've ever heard British soldiers complain about was poor equipment on operations and shitty accommodations, both of which have since been much improved.
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I was thinking of trying to join the Royal Armoured Corps. Is that a bad idea?
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>>75058780
Kek don't ask a bunch of neets and edgy teens who don't leave their basements. Go ask a veteran
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>>75053622
All you fags sound mad, those student loans pile up pretty quickly don't they? It's too bad you did not choose the option that would allow you to get paid to blow shit up, then after its all said and done get some free school out of it.
>stay mad faggot.
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>>75058780
Can I ask you why you want to die for Israel?
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>>75058862
You'd be surprised at how many of us men in green browse 4chan
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>>75058202
Military service isn't for everyone. I know people who genuinely enjoyed their time in the Canadian Armed Forces, with a couple of incidental bullshits, that are bound to pop up in every job. A lot of the shit on that guys list is reasonable shit to expect of soldiers. Some of it is less so, like the mandatory (untested usually) vaccines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mefloquine Like this "Anti-malarial" drug they make soldiers and such take.
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>>75058728
Former Army here, I skimmed over it, 95% bullshit

>>75058780
Better than infantry, see if you can go Armored Reconnaissance
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>>75054527
Pussy
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>>75058937
Because I want to drive tanks. That's the long and short of it, really.
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>>75058202

I wonder if this applies to the australian army, I feel like it does. Most of the former vets I've talked too are jaded and bitter.
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>>75054522
i dont see the issue. seems pretty safe to me. most of the money spent goes to civilian contractors R&D and "protecting" foreign countries like S. korea japan and most of eroupe.
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Ex-military here, put in 6 years for the Navy and made it out fine. Got lots of qualifications, went to 30 different countries and got pussy in every single one, got college credits and took college classes, met great people, went on adventures, and got paid an absolute shit ton to do so, barely above teenager age.

What I'm getting at is, while you guys complain and yell and post pictures meant to hurt our feelings or whatever we are literally sitting on a financial fortune and benefits for life along with the respect of an entire nation bordering on worship. I could give less of a shit how you guys feel about any of what I did, seriously. I went hiking in the outback in Australia and fucked all of Japan while you guys were posting rare pepes on /b/.
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>>75059364
why are you responding then? because your story isn't true anyway?
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>>75058202
What a load of garbage. The military isn't for everyone, pussies and NEETS need not apply.

I have several friends who joined the Marine Corps and they loved every moment of it. Not only did they have 45k in the bank after their first tour, but they also were able to go to college without racking up any student loan debt using the GI bill.
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>>75054522

Highly motivated individuals, I like them.
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>suddenly all these (1)s

hmmmmm
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>>75059474
No, I'm trying to demonstrate that if the pictures and military hatred are trying to inflict any sort of demoralizing, pain, or guilt for our service then I can promise you without a doubt it is failing to do so for xyz reasons I showed above. Not only that, but the benfits of service are abundantly clear, and even someone of at least moderate intelligence like me joined for these reasons like so many others, not because I'm the bottom of the barrel as it's been implied. All the military is, is an opportunity to boost a resume and provide a small financial boost in the beginning years of your youth, which assists you later on. It's perfectly reasonable.
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How about a more productive dead muslim thread
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>>75059162
Ok well fair enough just be aware of the risks you re taking and all the innocent people you are murdering
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>>75059799
What innocent people do you think he would kill as a tanker?
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>>75059799
nobody is innocent faggot.
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>>75059799
Realistically, based on deployment opportunities, he will be going somewhere in the middle east. I guarantee you there will be few innocent people there (non-combatants) and those who are unfortunately caught in the crossfire were realistically not going anywhere anyways. These people are barely above NPCs in a video game, seriously, it bums me out.
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>>75059941
I heard a story from my brother's boss about how he had to drive a tank over a large traffic jam, killing some people. he felt bad about it.
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>>75059729
your cognitive dissonance is impressive but futile

>The military is 100% beneficial to your future prospects and is a reasonable venture, you can't go wrong!
>Servicemen deserve to be worshipped for risking life and limb to serve ((national interests))

Also you conveniently ignore the military men who get blown up and lose bodyparts only to come home to their wife fucking another man. let's just ignore the average number of 22 veterans who kill commit suicide every day, it's a good career choice, goy!

you're an idiot for any number of reasons, but the big one here is myopia
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most men in the military are bluepilled fucks who think the world still works like the 1950s, they think the wars they fight are just and their women wont cuck them them as soon as they leave.

they go overseas and realize theyre killing and dying for nothing while their "wife" robs them blind and fucks niggers and they end up going nuts from "ptsd" or other mental illness. When they get home they feel like they can never verbalize what a fucking sham their lives were because they've been conditioned to think it would be "treason" or "unmanly" so they turn into these whiny "muh freedumbs" types.
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>>75059941
>>75059967
>>75060034
>fire round at terrorists
>miss and blow up boy on way to school
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>>75058491
l'école des sodomites refoulés. Vive l'armée
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>>75060305
I don't think I remeber ever seeing an M! miss their target.
Do you understand how the targeting system works?
Answer: No you do not.
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>>75060138
I don't understand why this is making you so emotional, but oh well.

The people who are maimed or injured or also financially compensated, joining a branch that sees action is a calculated risk, cost benefit analysis should be implied before you go somewhere littered with IEDs. I don't feel bad for them.

On that note, no nation can stand without a military. As fun and dramatic as it would be to see our entire military dismantle so we can all be free and happy, another nation would prey on our weakness, this is the truth of the dog eat dog world we live in. Yes, most deployments are pointless and innocent people get hurt, but it has to continue for a military to function and defend the nation, and this goes for everyone, not just America. Does this make more sense?
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>losing three limbs was worth my five-figure income and a "better" resume! now i can play minigolf as long as i like!
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>>75060408
>M!

M1, shit, you know, the tank
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>>75060417
*are also
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>>75060305
yes because this is guaranteed to happen
those bullets just can't resist juicy innocent targets
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>>75058041
he has a fucking sword, how much more do you want?
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>>75060467
>britbong
>M1 tank
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>>75060447

Thanks for protecting my freedums

F
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>>75053622
What branch did you try to apply for?
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>>75060506
Shame those little girls could have grown up and rode the cock carousel
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>>75060417
>Yes, most deployments are pointless and innocent people get hurt, but it has to continue for a military to function and defend the nation

You're so close you can almost taste it, I'm sure, but I won't spoil it for you since you're so intent on figuring it out on your own.

I wish "financial compensation" was good enough for the 15-30 veterans that will commit suicide within the next 24 hours. I really do.
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>>75060305
Hey, you gotta understand, that school was coming right for them. That's self defense, good sir.
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>>75060305
The middle eastern people are inherently less human then us anyways, they're subhuman farmers born to toil in agriculture and cling to their religion while they starve and fight their holy wars. Don't feel bad for the children either, they're the seeds that grow into the very weeds we're trying to remove, get me?
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>I went to Afghanistan and all I got was this lousy stub.
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>>75060392
>l'école des sodomites refoulés
Bonne chance pour ton avenir, sodomite non refoulé. Courage, tu peux y arriver.
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>>75060614
That isn't our issue though. They're fighting their own demons, if they were not emotionally stable enough to handle service they shouldn't have joined. I don't understand why the instability of a few veterans is causing you to demonize all of the armed forces.
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>>75057961
>trusting people who can't remember something that is written down in a fucking book to remember critical commands given in high-stress situations

why would you want people that are shit at remembering and learning stuff to defend your country?
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>>75060305
you mean,

>>fire round at terrorists
>>miss and hit pre-terrorist
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>>75060771
>he blames the people that get brainwashed and traumatized instead of the people that brainwash them and put them in traumatic situations

I'm sure if your life was irrevocably changed for the worse by something that really had nothing to do with you and you had to live with that understanding for the rest of your life you would be just fine, right? You got that sweet sweet 45k in the bank, my man!!! Baddle brutherzzzz!!!!!
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"My life will never be the same now that I have no legs and only one arm, but you should have SEEN the bonus pay I got for it, dude!"
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>>75060932
people who join the military(especially for combat roles) thinking it going to be like call of duty are fucking retards from the get go
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>>75060932
I do though, why should a grown man who volunteered to join the armed forces have his hand held afterwards because, as he should have seen before, came out traumatized from a high stress period of time. Shocking, I know. Even if you try to characterize and mock military culture with that "baddle brutherz" bit it doesn't change the fact that there was both financial compensation and an element of volunteerism there. Don't join the military if you are emotionally unstable and can't handle high stress environments, I don't feel bad for these particular veterans by any means.
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>>75061066
no one made that argument you mong but thanks for admitting that the military is full of retards that join for the excuse to kill people

>I can't wait to watch my friends die then come home and get discharged after pulling a shotgun on my wife cuz i'm suffering from hardcore PTSD!
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>>75061030
Like I've said before, as a veteran I don't feel bad for these people, joining branches that see combat and receiving rates (jobs) that see combat are calculated risks and fully volunteered for as well as financially compensated, I don't understand why this is difficult to grasp. Why do you feel so emotionally invested in these independent, fully grown men?
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>>75061282
why don't you just admit you were too fat and stupid to make it in
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>>75061030
Do you really save pics like this just so you can talk shit on the internet?
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>>75058906
>being a poor fag
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>>75061242
At least you admit that you don't care about your so called "brothers in arms" losing their lives and limbs because you got paid to sit on a boat

I mean, you're a monstrosity of a person for it, but hey
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>>75061381
>>75061390

>tfw dumb smelly nerds don't know how to temp folder
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>>75061282
The previous poster was referring to people that jump into the military without being able to hand the emotional and physical strain you dipshit.

>that post
>I get my understanding of people who come home from the military from tv crime-drama stereotypes
Continue living your miserable neet life
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>>75061428
and wolves pray on the sheep bitch nigga such is the law of nature
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>>75061551
Seek mental help
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>>75061562
Except the scenario I so expertly laid out for you is a real story, and actually happened to the guy in the picture you probably thought looked "badass".

hint: part of your brainwashing was to make you think you're smarter than you are. you haven't had a thought of your own in years.
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Aww all these poor saps who were denied entry into the military. Probably for being overweight or autism. I really hope threads like these make you feel better about your insecure, unimportant lives. Pic related.
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>>75053689
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>>75061696
omg is he ok?
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>>75061428
I did more then sit on a boat, I was a Seabee which meant I wore fatigues and had combat training, I maintained the bases we were stationed at in high risk areas. But see, I crossed over to that rate. It was a calculated risk and the financial compensation was there. I was fired on twice and saw someone approach death but I knew before I joined that I could handle this level of trauma. Remember, the military is volunteered for. Don't feel bad for the veterans that have PTSD or off themself. I'm not saying I don't care for my "brothers in arms", I'm just saying at the end of the day they are grown men and they should be able to compose themselves, otherwise it is no longer my issue, get me?
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>>75061671
It's funny that you never meet shitheads like this fuck >>75061666 in real life.

They talk shit on the internet because it is the only place they can. I doubt if he would have the balls to say "hello" to me in real life.
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>>75061671
I'd rather be fat and autistic than this guy


>>75061919
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>75061666
millions of people serve in the armed forces and come home fine
Some get fucked in the head and their life goes to shit, military isn't for everyone

>hint: part of your brainwashing was to make you think you're smarter than you are. you haven't had a thought of your own in years.
oh the fucking irony of this post
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Why are we hating on our own troops? They protect our freedom and you guys are just butthurt neckbeards
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>Naked force has resolved more conflicts throughout history than any other factor. The contrary opinion, that violence doesn't solve anything, is wishful thinking at its worst. People who forget that always die.

Can any of you apes tell me the difference between a civilian and a citizen?

Military force is a necessary evil. Get over it
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>>75062090
>>75061820
complete failure to address the point of why you're wrong about your original assertion
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>>75053622
Nice country you live in.

Can't you give those people free education instead of gunz?
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>>75062433
pls stop posting it's starting to get depressing
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>>75062433
Alright faggot your appeal to emotion ends here

Fuck I lost my leg anon, but driving this sweet car was tots worth it
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>>75062582
not as depressed as this guy
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>>75062433
I'll never live the same now that I lost my leg, but those car rides to work were so helpful
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>>75062575
>Can't you give those people free education instead of gunz?
U.S gives out guns? where
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I can't even see with these fake eyes, but owning an exotic pet like a chimp just made my life complete
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>>75062672
>comparing car accident injuries with combat injuries

m8 i don't even gaf
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>>75062575

The only people that get free education are "illegals". Everyone else has to pay through taxes, die or go to jail for not paying. Education wouldn't help anyways. School is where kids go to get corrupt and learn how to become degenerate and build confidence to say fuck adults since teachers can't do anything to them.
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>>75062901
Life just hasn't been the same since that escaped ape chewed my face. I should have known better than to go to the zoo
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>>75062908
Well, fuck that kind of life then!
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>>75062433
I disagree, my point is clear but all things considered our opinions are subjective, not logical, so I won't be convincing you of dick.

In essence though, what I'm saying is the military is a necessary evil. Any damage and innocent lives lost are also part of making this machine run, whether we like it or not. It won't change. Now, with that said, it is also voluntary and provides financial compensation as well as opportunity and valuable training. Anybody who goes in and is dissatisfied, maimed/injured, killed, or has PTSD should not be emotionally coddled. I don't feel bad for them because they made a calculated decision to volunteer for a specific branch and job, knowing what they were going to get in to and getting paid for it. They should have prepared accordingly. That's about it.
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>>75062433
human flashlight
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>>75062961
I'm sure the ratio of primate attack victims to combat veteran amputees is very balanced :^)
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>>75062575
Free college is where mouth breathing retards go to get brainwashed into becoming culture killing lefties

Theyre better off with a gun so maybe all the white guilt will make them kill themselves
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>>75062901
I can't believe lost my leg today
Running this marathon is suppose to be a healthy and for a good cause
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>>75063097
I wonder which groups actions caused that kind of violent extremism to reach our lands :^)
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>>75063286
It wasn't :^)
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>>75063212
By Allah who could have predicted that this construction incident would happen! Well at least I got in my daily prayer
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>>75063096
That's shit. If even a smallest country like Croatia can have free education, paid vacations, free healthcare for its citizens, then USA can do it gorillion times more.
Something is wrong.

And by the way, our gov. is utter shit. Corrupted 200%.
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>>75063015

You getting your leg blown off isn't a part of the contract and you aren't payed to go through that. The same with PTSD. You aren't payed to go through that. You are payed to risk your life and risk the most devastating situations and until that happens live an "acceptable risk" situation. When something does happen then they owe you for it. The same thing happens in the civilian world. You work at some warehouse and fuck with forklifts and pallets. If something happens to you that was not your fault on their property they compensate you. It's not like your check for that week is supposed to hold you for the rest of your life while you can't fucking work.

As far as PTSD imparticular, If you really are fucked up and I mean FUCKED UP after seeing some messed up shit then that's abnormal and does affect the rest of your life, your mentality, and your way of thinking.

If real PTSD occurs then it's not normal circumstance experiences. Real PTSD isn't about going through basic training, or getting in a fight. I'm talking about spending a year non-stop doing patrols, seeing ieds go off, and passing areas where driving bombs is a realistic possibility.
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>>75063487
My corporate masters told me I could die but I did it anyway cuz I couldn't resist the urge to kill subhumans!
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>>75063420
All I was doing was driving to work, when a drunk driver hit my car and it caught fire. But I just need to drive to work, it was sick broski
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>>75053622
Sounds like some NEET got stomped by a serviceman. Dry your tears OP. Bruises fade.
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>>75063603
I just wanted to go to school
guess I deserve this, praise Allah
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>>75063642
I'll never get laid again cuz I thought joining the military would be "good for my career". Totally rad :^)
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Bootlickers getting triggered hard ITT
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>>75063766
so the electrician did a shooty job with my houses wiring
........yeah
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>>75063564
You do get compensation. You have an increased disability percentage as well as a bevy of medical benefits, including a VA paycheck and pension that is significant. You are most certainly payed to go through this. I was Navy and lived a comfy life, but went combat and faced danger because, among other things (opportunity, excitement) the pay warranted it. We are not talking about children here, I don't care if they are the most hardened rambos around, if they are concerned about their mental health in the future or their well being, they shouldn't have joined the military. You still want to? Fantastic, welcome aboard. But if you have PTSD afterward or are injured, don't come crying to me, you volunteered. See what I mean? I don't understand the issue here.
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>>75053622
Fuck you, you dishonorable troll. I hope you and all your family are barren and you die the shameful death of a coward.
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>>75053622

American Faggot troops who probably cuck and suck BBC also are the same people who

wait for it....

>RAPED IRAQI YOUNG BOYS IN FRONT OF THEIR MOTHERS

http://news.groopspeak.com/classified-videos-allegedly-show-u-s-soldiers-raping-boys-in-front-of-their-mothers-images/

Oy Vey. Homosex is gewd for your race goyim.
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>>75063910
I was maimed for life because I joined up with an invading army but at least I got to take this sweet pic with Dubya!
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>>75063519
1. Croatia isnt 20 trillion dollars in debt
2. Croatia doesnt (to my knowledge) have a new generation of young people who want to turn their country into a multicultural shithole
3. Croatia probably has like 3 colleges anyways
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>>75063923

Well, let me put it this way. Would you agree that if the military is accepting soldiers, that means the military NEEDS soldiers? could it mean anything else? does the military NOT NEED soldiers if they're still recruiting?. Keep this in mind.

If the military needs soldiers then should everyone just say FUCK IT and not join? because they will face PTSD? Is that the right thing to do? is that a real suggestion? don't join? that's the right answer? Obviously there are not enough rambos because if there were enough people who actually WANTED to go through this the slots would be full. Is that a wrong thing to assert?.

What happens if nobody joins and the military doesn't have enough people? whether it be John Rambos or regular John Does that don't like to war but know someone has to do it?. Does the problem solve itself? or does it end in some sort of draft and then people will start getting DRAFTED and now we're back where we started, people who don't want to join but now have to or go to jail?
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>>75064223
Nice pic faggot
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>>75064223
woosp
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>>75055047
>"we"
Who you lying to? You live with ur mom and shit post on a shity honey pot image board run by heebs.
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>>75064095
Sexual crimes have existed in every single fucking war, it becomes a problem when the act is instilled into the mindset of the soldiers. I.e. the soviets during the push to berlin, and the iraqi and afghani police/soldiers who regularly go after little boys.
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>>75053689
Hate to be that one triggered guy but if I met you in real life I would torture you so badly day and night, cut your limbs off, pry your nails off one by one every hour or so, so the pain can set in ya know? I would then take a spoon and tear ONE of your eyes out. I wouldn't kill you of course but I would put you in a cell the size of a coffin, filled half way up with pig blood. You would remain in the coffin sized prison cell laying down at an angel. You would stay there until you are a senile motherfuker. I would then tie a Koran to you, pump your body with gasoline and pig blood. Then have a woman light you on fire. It would be pretty nice actually.

Thank America for all the shitheads like you that we killed. Thank America for every dead Iraqi, even the children. Thank American for heroes like Chris Kyle. Thank American for a destabilized Middle East where you guys are killing each other everyday. Thank America for everything. I'm so glad you live in a third world country where you've most likely had friends or family killed by pure aryan blood :). Rest in peace to those brave soldiers that fell in combat.

250,000 less shit heads that can breed like fucking mice and grow to a sole 2,000,000 in a generation

You people are a joke
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>>75064257
No I see what you're saying, the military does need soldiers. Both Rambos and John Does are joining, and they are doing so for the financial compensation. I'm not saying it doesn't suck that these people get hurt or get PTSD, but they shouldn't join if they don't want these things. The military realizes this, and this is why the pay is large and the benefits are numerous. It's danger pay and all that jazz, compensation for your work.

With that in mind, don't let a few disgruntled or suicidal veterans warp your perception of the military. Most of us are capable and independent, and we are perfectly fine with our positions.

I don't mean to be combative and I'm not angry/triggered, I'm just genuinely curious why there is a palpable hatred for our own military, maybe I'm autistic but I can't understand why there is disdain for payed volunteers who are informed of the danger.
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>>75053622

It's a common mistake to assume militarymen are dumb.

There are people from all walks of life and certain units and areas of the military employ some of the smartest people on the planet.
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>>75054537
>>75054743

Classic propaganda, been done since forever.
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Why do you amerifats collect 'n store dead mudshits pics? Can't you crawl out of your basements, join the army and make some pics for new degenerations to store on theirs comp? Don't break the circle, it could be a bad omen.

And you, Iraqi ifuckgoats pbuh pedo, you can store dead murifats as much as you like, but you will never get nearly close to US mudshit death count in Iraq nd entire sandfuck cuntries.

One thing you can do:

Kill your self and post pic. We will archive it.
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>>75053622
Might is right buddy, it's the second truth of this reality next to Math.
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>>75053622
The people I knew in highschool that went into the army were either really smart but really poor or retarded rednecks from rich families who thought it was about honor
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>>75064958

Taking pics has been done since pics could be taken, and posing with dead enemies has been done since the beginning of mankind.

Everyone does it everywhere, it's a human thing.
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>green men trying to deflect from people questioning hero worship to arguing for the necessity of a military at all

you are dumb and you should feel dumb. get your DI out of your head and think an original thought for once
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>>75053622
Who will rape foreign children if there is no military?
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>>75062018

Well you already got the autism already downpat.
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>>75065155

I doubt real militarymen frequent this shit board, they're mostly on other boards including /out/ and some in /k/.
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>>75060573

This desu
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>>75064649

>and this is why the pay is large and the benefits are numerous

Alright, I have to start seriously disagreeing there. From my experience the pay was NOT worth it. I probably made about the same as I would at Mcdonald's or Wal-mart for what I did there, only there I got yelled at, had to do full weeks in the field, couldn't quit, hours and hours of useless waiting in the motorpool stretching our days as if I was some fucking manager but without manager pay. The free food chow only worked when we got the opportunity and time to make it there.

In Iraq I got hazard pay but still wasn't worth it especially when we used to tell eachother stories of what these Blackwater security guys were making on the civilian sector.

I am ex military. I did a little over three years because I was stop lossed in Iraq.

I don't hate the military. I am very proud of our military because I went. I'll tell you something though. I personally like to buy into the whole PTSD thing and try to talk about it and help people convince me I have it because when I start thinking of the thoughts I have of always feeling killing someone is the only acceptable way of handling a conflict and will always be the result of a confrontation I try to tell myself it's not normal. When I feel like all that's normal I will begin to accept it and I really don't want to think like that or I'll probably end up another statistic eventually on the news. I don't want to end up like that.
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>>75064553
dude don't sweat it. My theory is proxy fag or alphabet soup trying to disturb a hornets nest because recruiting numbers are low. Could just be a butthurt hurt haji but who cares he's butthurt in iraq which on it's own merit is commendable whether you like it or not.
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>>75053622
t. retard lower than bottom of society
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>>75065235
foreigners already do a great job of that as it is
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>>75060780
>why would you want people that are shit at remembering and learning stuff to defend your country?
2.0 at West Point is still better than a 4.0 at most normal public universities.

They have to deal with constant stress and hazing while also taking very difficult engineering courses.
Also they need to be the very top of their class and get a senator's letter of recommendation to even get in to west point.

So this guy is still better than probably 60% of other American college graduates.
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>>75065369

Ever considered being a merc?

I hear it's not as the stories go, but ten times shittier.

Like the worst of the army but with no securities of any kind and even shittier gear.
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>>75065369
>>75065002
You've just seen too much real shit friend.
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>>75065002
>math
>a reality
Math proofs are constantly being disproven and rewritten

Math at best is a temporary truth
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>>75065584
The fundamental language of math as it relates to the most basic human interaction does not change.

t.History major who flunked college algebra
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>>75065448
Recruiting numbers are great in all branches right now, you'd be lucky to get into even the shittiest MOSes right now.

Very few real career options in the outside world right now, thanks Obama.
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>>75065123
Maybe, but I don't have a bunch of pictures of dead serbs or muslims. Wtf?
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>>75065369

But killing is the ultimate and ultimately correct way of handling conflicts.

It's embeded in us by nature. We're animals and the law of the jungle applies everywhere.

Only with agriculture and its consequences did we start learning to trust others to solve our problems and higher rules were created.

I dont think you're a monster for thinking that, it is obvious you've lived a more direct and humanely "real" life than most people.
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>>75056340
You can't post three articles from the same hack source and claim to know shit about shit son. How about real evidence you fucking wacko.
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>>75065369
Ah, sorry to hear about that. I guess it just comes down to rate and branch, I was seabee in Navy and made it to E5 so my pay wasn't terrible, including danger pay.

As for your psychology afterwards, I would unfortunately say that is normal. Since the beginning of human civilization that has been the norm of human thought, especially for those who have fought in combat. Aggression becomes a reasonable instinct. Just funnel your energy into something engaging. Even socrates, the great philosopher and cerebral genius, was a military man who wore armor and used a spear for many years as a hoplite. It's not the end of the world.
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>>75058041
He accomplished getting a free "education" from the taxpayers by working political connections.
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>>75065784

Killing is almost guaranteed way to make things worse or continue the problem. Killing leaves nothing solved and creates more tension between the killer and the now affected people that were connected to the person killed pulling them into the battle. At this point things just got worse because the forces have grown on one side and most likely they will retaliate by at least one more death or perceiving that they will get attacked again will take out more with harder blow than the one given to them. It's a leapfrog affect. I know killing HAS to happen because some people just don't listen to reason but I think the first and most reasonable method of solving things should be a compromise. Obviously nobody can be totally happen but a bargain should happen to where the parties disputing can come up with a deal where one side sacrifices some things and gains some thing so that the current dispute causing so much of a disturbence is spread out to where there there is only little disturbances here and there but that are tolerable for both sides.
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>>75065766
Probably because only 1% of the population owns a camera in Croatia
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I can't wait for WWIII
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>>75066217

Well but that's a problem for the military to solve, not for the individual.

Usually higher branches and units of the military do that stuff and quite effectively. SOF like Green Berets which are not exclusive to USA usually befriend, train and plan with locals and psyops units quite effectively deal with this side of warfare.

I'm just saying seeing killing as the ultimate way of handling a conflict is not due to ptsd or anything similar, but rather the most natural and down to earth way.

You might like this article

http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com/2015/10/whats-so-special-about-special-ops/
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>>75066225
I'm 1% semiliterate oligarch snob with trump-tier kitsch house and 6 megapixel camera on muh smartphone.
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>>75066173


I used to see a psychologist and one of the things that she mentioned and I hadn't thought about was that I see all this stuff happening in the civilian world and it makes me feel at risk. I see a lot of news and see people get murdered and killed here and there and know these people are all over the place.

She asked me once why I didn't feel like that when I was in the military and I told her that military bases for one were very secure and I trusted my fellow soldiers. I know we have bad people in the army but I never felt like they would kill me so I guess I didn't worry about it. Even in Iraq I felt secure on the base, I was with my unit on our base and we always had guard towers being monitored to protect us all and I guess that's why I never worried too much. I hate it out here though where everyone is out for themselves and there is no safe zone except your own house and even that is hardly ever secure with just a fucking door and a bunch of glass windows.
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