NATO Chief Says Warsaw Summit will Recognize Georgia’s Progress
At its summit in Warsaw in July the Alliance will recognize progress made by Georgia and reiterate commitment to continue providing practical support to the country, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on May 18.
“I strongly believe that the summit of NATO in July will recognize the progress Georgia is making and will reiterate our strong commitment both to provide strong political support to Georgia, but also to provide practical support to Georgia, working with Georgia to implement reforms, build institutions and to enhance Georgia’s ability to modernize its armed forces,” he said at a news conference on the eve of NATO foreign ministerial meeting when asked about Georgia.
“We will continue to defend Georgia’s right to make its own decisions and we will continue to work on reforms and help Georgia moving towards NATO membership,” he added.
http://www.civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=29160
Old generations of Polish MANPADS were doing pretty well during war in Georgia, btw. It was the only weapon that we exported to Georgia ever only because it was outdated, but as you can see it was pretty effective against mighty Russian airforce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VrRnZGz2NU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARAjsciEX1M
These GROMs on your photo are new generation and they are much better
On a longer watch yes, but until now it would be more important to get people care about NATO again.
Once the nations that already allied on the papers proove that they can trust on each other we should expend NATO, but not before that
>>75045887
no, fuck off
mama says is danger to peace and american imperialism
>>75046278
>it would be more important to get people care about NATO again.
There are only two countries in Europe that spend over 2,1% of GDP on military: UK and Poland. If every NATO member spent as much as we do, the alliance would be much more effective in solving global problems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVIUfxLng
>>75045887
>RUSKI TWOI MAMY
lol these chants, Bad Company
>>75046416
I think that he said: "ruski ya tvoyu mamy yebal" : "Russian! I fucked your mom!"
Still lost the war. Your tech didn't quite help. Fucking polish delusions, I swear.
>>75046515
Well, Russian army is huge. But our MANPADS ridiculed Russia a bit, that's always an entertainment. Also noticed that we exported oldest generation of these MANPADS.
>>75046515
>implying german tech helped them in ww2
Still, lost the war
Today in things that never happened.
Georgian army got rekt by an unorganized Russian army same would have happened if it was Poland
>>75045887
poland is nato loving traitor and loves muslims
>>75046676
Georgian army is on Zimbabwe's level. They never had any chance to win open conflict with Russia, but the truth is that Russia was unable to conquer them in full, they were basically afraid of outcome.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
>>75045887
Going to a conference in trilby during October
>TRY TO LEARN ABOUT GENOMICS
>GET BLOWN UP BY "REBELS"
>MFW
>>75046371
Well, basicly only UK since polan gets so much money for its military from other EU nations.
But thats what i mean, NATO is broken.
When its fixed we can expend it, but not now
>>75047640
>since polan gets so much money for its military from other EU nations.
Will this meme ever end? We get from EU funds barely 5 bln euro netto / year and all of this money is spent on farmers and infrastructure. It is less than 1% of our GDP.
Moreover 2016 year is first year when Poland pays more to EU budget than takes from it
http://www.money.pl/gospodarka/unia-europejska/wiadomosci/artykul/polska-bedzie-platnikiem-netto-w-ue-w-2016-r,220,0,1976796.html
>>75045887
The real question is what will NATO do when Georgia goes into Abkhazia and South Ossetia with tanks. Because it's gonna happen if they feel safe from us.
>>75047640
>Well, basicly only UK since polan gets so much money for its military from other EU nations.
Wtf are you talking about you retard?
Russia will get buttmad if this happens
>>75047640
Trump will force you to pay 2% gdp for army
NATO is already to big since 1999, we dont need to fuck it up even more
>>75045887
You do not have enough of Middle Eastern refugees and want more from Georgian?
>>75048543
Poland luckily doesn't, it's the most homogeneous country in Europe.
>>75046780
>Russia was unable to conquer them in full,
Dude, their army dissapeared in 5 days. Those faggots demonstrated against russian agression on the streets but nobody run to enlist and protect georgialand.
You do not understand the Polish perception of military affairs: If all population does not killed - the war is lost
New trophies for the Russian army!
>>75049061
>If all population does not killed - the war is lost
I think this is the Soviet/Russian mentality lad, you got things all mixed up. Poles even have jokes about Russians using tactics/strategy in which Ruskies are dying in the millions - no big deal comrad, run forward or bullet in head!
>>75045887
Isn't one of the requirements to join NATO is lack of of territorial disputes? Because Georgia still considered Abkhazia and South Ossetia their territory.
>>75046610
Germonystan at least conquered bunch of countries and did massive damage to Russia before getting BTFO by allies. Georgia was simply raped. Don't be so butthurt Polan.
>>75049288
They'll change requirements, just like IMF did for Ukraine, no big deal.
>>75046780
> http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
> 18th place in the world
Poland should be amongst first 10 strongest armies in the world to obtain a deserved political status imo. We made some progress but it is far not enough. And what we really need is nukes, a lot of it. I really hope that our government is doing something in this matter in secret now.
>>75045887
Absolute waste of american time and money to prop up these idiots. They are no value to us whatsoever.
>>75048710
>>75049061
>>75049163
>>75049288
>>75049364
> this massive Russian butthurt
Georgian army is as "strong" as army of Lithuania more or less or poorest african countries. People here only enjoy the fact that our old-generation MANPADS had such a high effectivity ratio against your airforce, that's all
Weren't they the first ones to fire in that conflict about Abkhazia?
>>75050208
>massive Russian butthurt
nah
I don't get it, wasn't the greatest Russian of all time, Stalin, actually Georgian? So why all this butthurt?
>>75047731
i look forward to the new nato where it's only poland and the anglosphere because nobody else wants to pay for their military.
>>75046715
> poland
> loves muslims
We love all people on this planet. Besides i think that we have no rational reasons to hate muslim people because they don't live here at all.
>>75050903
Poland will spend more and more on military because we need to improve our geopolitical position in Europe.
>>75045887
Poland have strongest history complexes than nay country in universe.
Its why Kurwas have murican balls so deep in mouth and get ready to die for @democracy@
Pathetic cargocult niggers.
>>75051144
You can't even have national complexes because you were completely russified, your national identity was replaced by Russian one and you serve as a toilet-cleaner of Russia that is poorer than Poland. It must be very humiliating for a nation, but since you are not a nation, it doesn't bother you, right "comrade"?
Real Belarusians reside in Poland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0JrgccZ7qY
>>75046371
>solving global problems
Yeah look at Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan. Thank God West intervened, now those people know true freedom and democracy.
>inb4 le i don care im just a petty polish rat and as long as my globalist masters pester russia its fineXDDD
>>75051320
cuck
>>75045887
>Mighty Russian air force
They were using Su-24 and Su-25, perhaps one or two Tu-22s, not Su-34s or Su-27s, their most advanced air assets at the time.
>>75051320
with russian language we have more information than with belarussian or kurwa language, nigger.
>video with brainwashed monkeys
>2%
>statistical error
>Real Belarussians
KEK
>>75051563
Russia is forced to wage a huge wars with available assets, not prototypes. So what that they constructed 16 "armatas" with a plastic armor, if 99% of their main battle tanks tanks that can be used in real war (active status) are T-72, T-80 and T-90 that we can easily destroys?
It is not like we underestimate Russian army, we always treat it and present it as more dangerous that it could be in reality, but cmon, dude... The only asset of Russia that makes the world treat it more seriously than Kongo or Zimbabwe is their soviet nuclear arsenal.
>>75051917
>Su-34s or Su-27s
>prototypes
>plastic armor
>we can easily destroys
This kurwa is pretty amusing.
>>75051917
>second-rate members of NATO which are in for geopolitical/cannon fodder reasons using ''we''
>>75052098
>implying there's first rate NATO members
>implying everyone is just not cannon fodder for the US.
>>75052057
You must be deluded to believe that Turkish F-16 couldn't easily shoot down any Su-27 if it did it with Su-24. Where is such a huge technological jump between these two models?
>>75052160
yeah but countries like UK or France or Germany have some weight by the nature of their size and power
Poland is literally buffer zone
funniest moment in recent history was when they literally sent troops to participate in invasion of Iraq
how fucking low can you get, on national level
>>75051917
>Russia is forced to wage a huge wars with available assets, not prototypes. So what that they constructed 16 "armatas" with a plastic armor, if 99% of their main battle tanks tanks that can be used in real war (active status) are T-72, T-80 and T-90 that we can easily destroys?
Ach, der ewige Polen.
>>75051917
>t 90
>we can easily destroys
>we can easily destroys
>we can easily destroys
Battlefield 4 expert here, lol
>>75050925
such a cuck. the communism is strong in this one.
>>75052179
>fighter aircraft ambushed unsuspecting interdictor
>that demonstrates superiority of said fighter model over all Russian aircraft
>>75052179
>Turkish F-16 couldn't easily shoot down any Su-27 if it did it with Su-24
>huge technological jump between these two models
>f-16 - fighter
>su-24 - bomber
>su-27 - fighter
Just so you know, before posting nonsence.
>>75052179
>fight in back like rat
>fact like a trend
Kurwa kid must read books not 4chan
>>75045887
No.
>>75045887
No, not while frozen conflicts continue in South Ossetia and Abhkasia. Territorial integrity is a vital NATO membership criteria.
>>75052344
LIES, the Soviet version of """""communism""""" has nothing to do with the modern day European cuckoldry/pc culture. In fact, during Soviet times most of those SJWs would be forcefully sent to mental institutions.
>>75052265
Lol, even our most basic stuff like RGW-90 Matador that penetrates up to 600 mm of armor would be able to destroy T-90 trash. We wouldn't have to even use more sophisticated anti-tank weapon for it with tandem warheads and top-attack mode, like Israeli Spike that we produce in thousands on a licence f.e.
>>75052231
IDK, you can be macedonia tier, send troops, and not even be in NATO.
>>75046371
>solving global problems
>NATO
You mean "making global problems"?
>>75052550
you sent troops for peacekeeping, Poles unironically sent troops for opening invasion
>>75052522
If you be glassed how you can use all this shit?
>>75052522
>>75045887
No. Nobody's gonna defend Georgia, are you fucking sick? Georgia is like totally isolated from any european country
>>75052708
>If you be glassed how you can use all this shit?
Oh look, threatining people with nuclear weapon is the last resort of Russian argumentation when they realize how shitty their conventional forces are :D
>>75052577
I was in Poland and read newspapers.
Its like CNN + BBC + DW x 3
this hypocritical white niggers brainwashed more than cockholes
Poland anon, stop embarrasing yourself.
>>75051613
Come home Litwin...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGOXMf6yDCU
>>75047957
An individual attack on another country would invalidate NATO responses.
Although NATO members do not recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia, it would be a viable enough reason for NATO members to avoid conflict with Russia.
As much as Russia would lose a direct confrontation against combined NATO forces, Russia is very secure in their positions, and there would be an absolute bloodbath on both sides.
Western morale could not accept these losses, it'd destabilise governments, but the insane Orthodox mentality in Russia would make their dead martyrs.
NATO would gain nothing and would stand to lose everything.
>>75052903
Come home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRbBHo2sGXE
>>75046371
>There are only two countries in Europe that spend over 2,1% of GDP on military: UK and Poland.
You forgot France
>>75052512
its a jewish propaganda aimed at the extermination of white christians
just like cuckoldry of the leftists
>>75052988
>>75052816
> living in a shithole where all media are monopolized by a dictator
> calling citizens of democratic countries "brainwashed"
That's amusing
>>75045887
We should not be expanding NATO at all, it's bloated as is.
>>75052875
nos so easy. Kurwa make few succes wins in battlefield 4 and now have strongest MORAL in this thread.
I don't care. Hopefully we leave NATO once Trump is elected anyway. Most of the other NATO countries are fucking deadbeats who cost us money.
>>75046369
what the fuck are these "mama" posts?
>>75045887
Russia is a retard. Instead of forging alliances with its neighbours, they actively drive them away.
Just an example:
>"Relations with Turkey are actually good, sir!"
>"Heh, lets enter their airspace until they shoot us down, heh"
Now Georgia is becoming russian Cuba.
why did russia and georgia even fight against one another in 2008 in the first place? they are both christians
there are too many enemies in this world for you to turn on your friends
>>75053194
Georgia was denying ethnic Russians sovereignty.
>>75053154
"Russia" (Putin) isn't retarded, friendly relations just aren't in his geopolitical strategy. He takes things he doesn't negotiate
>>75053038
>pictures from romania
I filmed this in Poland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZsxY5Gkhi0
>>75052903
zmahar? what do you do in cuckland. Andrey?
>>75053256
What did he take then? He is being surrounded by american bases and missile "defense" systems.
>>75053050
thanks for your support, belarusian friend!
>>75053194
Because Ossetians baited us and our moronic president took the bait and then Russians invaded us, because they want to keep us destabilized and divided.
>>75053297
No moron, that's how typical Belarusian village looks. But i guess that your media controled by a dictator will never show it. They show only movies from center of Minsk :D
http://englishrussia.com/2014/05/31/life-in-belarus-village/
atlantist pole from kc thread
nie pytajcie skąd wiem
>>75053239
>Ossetians
>ethnic Russians
>>75053038
>democratic countries
>still fallling for this meme
>>75053355
Why is Ossetia a Russian controlled enclave?
>>75053194
Georgians began to shoot at our peacekeepers and starts kill our citizens living in South Ossetia. During the Olympics when EVERYONE should support peace. Medvedev goes furious and sent troops.
>>75045887
>Pole thinks big brother NATO is therr to protect.
>doesn't realize NATO is just another globalist tool.
Listen, if the EU or whoever ever decided to use force to tear down Poland's nationalist gov. and instsll a libtard one, NATO would betray you in a heartbeat. Instead of relying on others, your country needs to build a strong military of its own.
>>75053432
Because they are bunch of commies.
>>75053297
>I filmed this in Poland.
She's a filthy Gyspy, she even says "Gtfo, I will send Gypsies on you"...
>>75053297
>Andrey
It's Jakub. My parents moved when I was a kid.
>>75053453
Nice lie, that already has been proven false
>>75053506
This Murrican knows what's up. PLC 2.0 + Intermarium is the only way.
>>75053377
its not a big problem nigger
big problem for normal human is to be a allie of bloody warmonger like murica
is a real problem
All the world know that kurwas cowardly soldiers kill rape and robbed Iraq. You will pay for this crimes too. Never forget
>>75045887
Not until they recognise Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Cobrastan.
>>75053506
>Instead of relying on others, your country needs to build a strong military of its own.
Where i said anything different than that? We treat NATO only as an addition to our own army, nobody here is naive enough that Murricans will die for Poland. Anyways, NATO has a serious deterrence potential and should be used to contain Russian imperialist ambitions.
Poland should be given nuclear weapon and become more independent, we could represent American interests in Europe while you could save money by removing your troops from here, imo.
>>75053670
>All the world know that kurwas cowardly soldiers kill rape and robbed Iraq.
You mean Murrican soldiers, but it was still a shame to participate in that.
>>75053692
>Poland should be given nuclear weapon
Oh you gullible faggot...
>>75053670
It's russian language on the wolf ?
>>75045887
It is a really bad idea as it would increase tensions in the area.
>>75053757
If we are not given it, we will develop it on our own if we already haven't done it yet
>>75053579
My son named jakob too
and dad fight for poland with ussr.
But anyway niggers Russia now on the side of truth.
>>75052974
france shrunk back under it with sarkozy and hollande
>>75053814
>poland
>develop
Muh sides.
>>75053599
What's the story from your side then regarding how this war all began? I'm honestly curious.
Just want peace in Europe, an alternative to NATO that includes Russia would be neat
>>75053814
>we will develop it on our own if we already haven't done it yet
Hahaha, and you think the U.S. will allow that, especially with the nuke non proliferation treaty?
>>75053828
>My son named jakob too
You have a son? Thought you were younger.
>and dad fight for poland with ussr.
Nice to hear that. Never 4get.
Sad that we were incorporated into the EUSSR, but it's good that more younger Poles are seeing it for what it really is and are becoming EU sceptics.
POLEXIT
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>>75053895
>Poland developing a nuclear weapon
uranium dust tied to fireworks doesn't count
Hell no.
In fact, about half the fucking countries in NATO should be expelled.
>>75053895
Developing nuclear warheads is a matter of 2 or 3 years for us with current technological abilities, according to our academic and military experts
http://wiadomosci.dziennik.pl/wydarzenia/artykuly/477116,polska-bomba-atomowa-czy-mozemy-miec-bron-jadrowa.html
The only problem for us would be developing carriers for nuclear warheads: ballistic missiles, because Poland never had any rocket technology, even during communism period. But we are currently working on this problem too.
>>75054165
This
fuck the nations that don't contribute
I hope Trump abandons everyone who doesn't spend 5% of their GDP on their military
>>75053895
Actually Poland had a nuclear program in the 70-80's and made sufficient steps forward. A scientists found an easy way to cleave atoms by laser (so technically we knew how to set of atom bombs), but he, with other Polish scientists working on the program, was was found dead...
Thanks USSR you fucks!
>>75054144
>uranium dust tied to fireworks doesn't count
As i tell you, we can produce arsenal of nuclear warheads in 2 years with current technological abilities, and we wouldn't even import enriched uranium from abroad.
>>75053960
Ossetians blew up our police car, then Georgian sniper shot 4 Ossetians and then Ossetians started shelling our villages.
>>75053789
yes
I am Charlie
>>75053730
>You mean Murrican soldiers, but it was still a shame to participate in that.
Anyway NATO boses turn faggots like OP on war, maybe next year. And kurwas must died. You like this plan?
>>75054128
>and dad fight for poland with ussr.
sorry not dad od course, grandfather who later in 43 help to partizan and lost wife and dougter (killed by belarus policia traitors)
>>75054144
If Murricans don't share tactical nukes with Poland, we will have to secure ourselves otherwise without your help. Thankfully, i think that proper decisions were already made on high level.
>>75054368
>And kurwas must died. You like this plan?
Huh?
>>75054368
>sorry not dad od course, grandfather who later in 43 help to partizan and lost wife and dougter (killed by belarus policia traitors)
Oh, so you're even partly Polish.
>>75045887
Of course, fuck Russia.
>>75054613
Why waste money and time developing weapons when you can just throw mud at them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU
>supporting anything to do with the bloated garbage heap that is the EU
>>75045887
NATO, stop pls. Think of all these people who will die in nuclear war.
We don't want war, but you are deliberately escalating the situation.
>>75054633
I live in Polish part of Belarus.
In my city we have a lot of polen officer houses.
https://kraj.by/belarus/news/sobitiya/-ofitserskie-doma-v-molodechno-i-varshave-stroilis-iz-odnogo-i-togo-ge-kirpicha-foto-2013-02-15
>>75054931
>Polish part of Belarus.
That's nice that you admit that this territory was stolen from Poland.
>>75054912
same situation for murica like before WW2
They need this war.
Kurwas and Georgians need to die.
>>75055006
I think that after new west agression Poland must be smaller, kid. 148%
>>75055147
>They need this war.
I think that Russia needs a lot of Ukraine-tier conflicts to turn away attention of hungry crowd from internal economical problems. Next in line for liberation is Kazakhstan, you should be afraid of "green men" too, imo.
>>75055211
>I think that Russia needs a lot of Ukraine-tier conflicts to turn away attention of hungry crowd from internal economical problems. Next in line for liberation is Kazakhstan, you should be afraid of "green men" too, imo.
Oh my GOD monkey. Just remember timeline of cocholes events. Revolutions and all this shit.
Its ashamed to be so naive autistic goy like you
> to turn away attention of hungry crowd from internal economical problems
In reality kid, the level of dissent in Russia go lower than be 5 -10 years ago. Why? Because russian people see real face of western politics. No more illusions like in 90x
>hungry
?
>>75055211
There is no need to take by force what is already ours. Both Kazakhstan and especially Belarus are Russia in all but name.
Hell, we have autonomous republics which are more autonomous then Belarus.
>>75045887
The only reason to allow Georgia into NATO is to further pressure Russia
Why is the US still operating like we're at fucking war with Russia?
>>75054235
>I hope Trump abandons everyone who doesn't spend 5% of their GDP on their military
Even Murica doesn't spend as much. If every NATO member spent 2% of GDP, it would make the alliance as powerful as never. It would be also combined with more intensive trainings of multinational troops. It would be the best possible deterrence not only against Russia, but against China as well.
>>75055579
>Hell, we have autonomous republics which are more autonomous then Belarus.
sad but true only in economic way
but you know that our leader make some strange maneuvers with VKS base
Its strange and make me fear
>>75051917
>It is not like we underestimate Russian army
>16 "armatas" with a plastic armor
>T-72, T-80 and T-90 that we can easily destroys?
>The only asset of Russia that makes the world treat it more seriously than Kongo or Zimbabwe is their soviet nuclear arsenal.
>It is not like we underestimate Russian army
>It is not like we underestimate Russian army
>It is not like we underestimate Russian army
Sure fucking sounds like you do.
>>75055579
>Both Kazakhstan and especially Belarus are Russia in all but name.
Oh man, i think that you overlook some recent developments in your colonies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XlJxW5s8Zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wPdjxZXLQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSjg7u8f-cE
>>75055736
In reality nigger its not a very big money and time to force thousands naive monkeys on streets
All cockholes revolution with 5 years work price like a 5 billions.
its obongo words
>>75055952
I can only pity you. You are more brainwashed than SS-men who were killing Jews out of racist reasons.
>>75055736
The US is very hard at work attempting to instigate color revolutions in former USSR territories.
And while people in these regions have legitimate issues with Russia, they are simply being used by the US to weaken Russia geopolitically.
It's a valid strategy, but I really don't think it's a necessary one, because I don't see Russia as an existential threat. I honestly don't think the globalists/american leadership see them as an existential threat either, but rather as competitors who need to be eliminated.
And quite frankly, I can't agree with eliminating competition. Competition keeps us on our toes. Keeps us from stagnating and growing weak and corrupt.
Competition is one of our best tools at ensuring existential survival.
But the people in charge are greedy selfish sociopaths who are willing to sacrifice the lives of millions of other people for personal gains.
>>75055586
it never stopped. america had involvement in the serbia bosnia stuff. hillary in on vids talking about going to bosnia while she was in the government and being shot at by sniper fire( never happened since abc had vid of the entire thing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4
why even go? not like its the only place that had a conflict in recent times at the time. and the collection of people who went with her to strengthen ties looks like a generic americas "the best" team for 3rd world eurofags. sinbad and sherly crow preforming with the first lady showing up
>>75056151
but little kurwa dont believe you. >>75056075
RT
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>>75056151
>The US is very hard at work attempting to instigate color revolutions in former USSR territories.
That's Kremlin's propaganda: everybody who protests against being impoverished and dehumanized is "agent of CIA". The poorer "Russian world" becomes, the more such propaganda is promoted in Russian media. It is easier to humiliate, beat and terrorize unhappy citizens, calling them "CIA agents", than to improve their life conditions. That's how revolutions in "Russian world" begin: because of poverty and miseration of masses, because 20% of population drives 200k euro worth cares where the rest is unable to afford even cheapest cars. That's the true reason.
If you repeat here Kremlin's propaganda, you act against all those poor people who fight for their rights there. Shame on you, dude.
>>75045887
Yes, Georgia needs to be a part of someone to discourage Russiastan from invading again
Though NATO isn't much of a deterrent anymore
>do you support(...)NATO?
no
>>75055598
>Even Murica doesn't spend as much.
This is a joke yes?
>>75056347
>That's Kremlin's propaganda
No, it isn't. It's painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain looking at what's going on in post-communist countries.
I don't even understand your hatred towards Russia when you have your best friends in the EU literally arguing for your extinction via demographic replacement. They're even threatening sanctions against your country because you won't accept refugees.
And if it continues I fully expect to see color revolutions sprouting in your own country. It's how the US deals with anyone who doesn't toe the line.
But I mean - you're so far gone it's literally impossible to have any sort of reasoned discourse. I'm honestly not even sure if you're legit polish.
>>75056347
You're brainwashed beyond beliefe. Even be butthurt belt standarts.
>>75053307
>What did he take then? He is being surrounded by american bases and missile "defense" systems.
Which the Bear can glass in a few short hours....days at max. The inner circle of evil is doing this in hopes that Russia does, indeed, flatten one of these bases...they are bait.
>>75056622
You are as brainwashed as North Koreans nowadays, and i am not even kidding.
come on guys, its just a cockhole plumber
>>75056347>>75056075
few years ago I believe that kurwas was so pathetic and can defend murican masters on this level
but now only cockholes can do that
>>75045887
No. They bombed their own population, attacked internationally placed units and then cried victim when got bitchslapped as retaliation.
No way.
>>75056693
Didnt Obama himself say that US invested "billions" in Ukranian democracy?
>>75056596
>via demographic replacement. They're even threatening sanctions against your country because you won't accept refugees.
How do you want to me discuss with this nonsense? Yeah, EC would like to share refugee-burden in solidary way, but our government claims that forcing refugees to live in a country where they don't want to live breaks their human rights. If European Comission forces us to take these refugee people against their will, we will file a complaint to ECtHR
>>75056900
>attacking european decision at european court
>>75056693
Wow, you're almost as mad as crazy estonian from krautchan.
>>75056900
You don't get it; your country will be forced to take in refugees, whether or not you want them.
These refugees aren't being brought into european nations because they're actually suffering and need help. They're being brought into european nations in order to weaken public solidarity, keep the ponzi-scheme economy running, and demographically replace (genocide) whites.
You don't get a say in this. The EU is not your friend, and should Russia magically disappear with you getting everything you've wanted, Poland will be turning into a multiculti shithole like everywhere else and your entire culture and history will be destroyed. You will be stabbed in the back.
If you want an actual future for Poland, you should be working towards creating an eastern-european pact that can militarily stand up to both western europe and russia.
And you should do it in a way that doesn't preclude allying yourself with either, because you'll need to do that to protect yourself from America.
That's some Realpolitik for you.
What you want is the destruction of your country.
>>75056887
>Didnt Obama himself say that US invested "billions" in Ukranian democracy?
Poland invested in Ukraine through "unofficial channels" 5x more money than the USA. Maybe it is time for you now to create a new conspiracy theory accordingly to which Poland organized Maidan revolution? :D
Russian propaganda about CIA-agents who make people in "Russian world" unhappy enough to protest and revolt is not only stupid, it is anti-human, because it gives away rights of protest from these poor people who must struggle under Russian dominance. It is a satanic approach. You all should be ashamed, no matter if you are Russian patriots or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua2Z5na50xg
>>75045887
No.
NATO is cancer
>>75057265
No, it didnt. Also, where do you think those money went? Answer pls - how did they spend those money on democracy? I want to know your answer.
Or are you baiting me now?
>>75056702
I like this pic.
>>75056596
Funnily, both of you are right. The demonstrations are instigated by CIA and other western organisations indirectly or directly, but the reason they turned so massive is because underneath the population was unhappy and they saw the window of opportunity to get their unhappiness out, in the end we know the result, but these demonstrations won't turn massive unless there is some basic dissatisfaction the country is ruled by average people.
>>75056900
>but our government claims
>our
cockhole try looks like a kurwa.
You have a holliday today?
>>75057563
Kremlin's propaganda presents it this way as if everybody was happy and rich under Russian influence, and all of a sudden Obama pays "5 billion" and people revolt against Russian paradise :D
This thread is the best evidence that most of their population really thinks this way.
>>75057563
Yes, I agree with you on this completely.
You cannot have a successful revolution by simply financing it. There HAS to be pre-existing resentment and dissatisfaction. The finances just add momentum to it.
And this is what the US/Globalists specialize in. They have a lot of money to throw around.
Unfortunately, this also means that populist uprisings and revolution are immediately co-opted by special interests with ulterior motives. The uprisings never accomplish what the original supporters wanted; instead it leads only to what the financiers want - and what the financiers want is very rarely in line with what the people want, very often it is diametrically opposed to what the people want.
In the end these people, who have legitimate issues, are just used and discarded by moneyed interests.
>>75058141
You still didnt answer my question. Where did those billions go according to you? How were they spent?
>>75058239
I don't know and don't care. USA or Russia can pay even 200 bln dollar on provoking revolution in Poland and it won't help them
>>75058333
I know you dont know it, but you certainly have an opinion. So tell me. Where did those money go to in your opinion?
>>75058516
Firstly: i have no idea what money you are talking about
Secondly: why are you so fanatically interested what other people spend their money on? Are you a communist?
>>75053506
No country in Europe could on its own build an army big enough to match Russia, so Europeans MUST rely on eachother.
Further more, NATO would never go against a government which supports them, as it could only backfire on them if they try to change it. With Poland currently supporting NATO more than ever, the EU can call for a jihad if they wanted, NATO wouldnt give two shits
>>75058591
OK, so you were just baiting. A relieve for me, I was worried our northern bros are retarded for a minute.
I r8 8/8.
>>75058333
You don't need to pay anything, all you do is cut off Poland's EU shekels for being Nazi and watch the slavnigger chimp out.
>>75058989
2016 is first year when Poland pays more to EU budget than receives from it because of procedural delays in payments. Just look, nothing happens, right?
http://www.money.pl/gospodarka/unia-europejska/wiadomosci/artykul/polska-bedzie-platnikiem-netto-w-ue-w-2016-r,220,0,1976796.html
How many times people should here explain that EU funds are less than 1% of our GDP? You should be even ashamed to mention it, it is barely 4 bln euro netto / year. We spend 3x more only on salaries for our soldiers.
Those GROMs look cool.
>>75058989
>for being Nazi
I would like to remind you that Poland is the biggest historical victim of nazi crimes. Calling us "nazi" is a very bad joke from a citizen of a country who supplied the world with Hitler. Moreover, almost 50% of your countrymen voted for Hofer lately, this guy is mainly known from his Holocaust denial attempts.
>>75046314
Fuck off Poland we let you into NATO. If Georgians hate Russians than they are welcome in NATO.
>>75053194
>they are both christians
This is literally the dumbest logic ever used.
>>75058663
Oh please the liberals and the neocons in the US are already in full force against Poland: http://www.euractiv.com/section/central-europe/news/us-senators-urge-poland-to-respect-democracy-rule-of-law/
They would support a change of government there in a heartbeat and use any of the globalist tools (NATO, EU, banking&rating agency cartels) to push it through if necessary.
>>75059534
They look like poor-mans copy of IGLA. Because they are poor-mans copy.
>>75060190
Oh, guess they do.
Still looks cool compared to other launchers, though.
>>75060070
I wouldn't overestimate this conflict. Yes, it weakaned our currency a bit, now euro costs not 4,2 zł like always but 4,4 zł, S&P decided to downgrade our credit rating purely of out political reasons (conflict over constituional tribunal) but Moody's kept our A rating untouched lately. Besides you must understand that most of this mess is provoked by our own politicians who lost last elections. They have a lot of friends in EU and Western media who spread some disinformation against current Polish government. But it is not a big deal imo, we are too big and too relevant for EU to be fucked with. Timmermans was yesterday in Poland and said that conflict over tribunal is our internal matter that we must solve ourselves without EC's interfering.
>>75059748
Din't 80% of the SS staff at Auschwitz ave Austrian heritage?
>>75045887
Good times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvDFVKJk19c
>>75049808
That would be pretty stupid because then any little spark in those regions could cause WW3.
>>75060190
> Russia calling anybody/anything "poor"
Those complexes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYNi_HwITyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeyN0U6pnSo
>>75060190
>Because they are poor-mans copy.
They are more developed versions of it, and thus more capable than their Russian counterparts.
>>75045887
OP's face
>>75045887
NATO shouldn't exist in the first place
>>75061198
Turkey thinks the same about Greece. Just imagine what would happen without NATO umbrella over your country :D
>>75061331
Lol, Turkey needs an umbrella, not us.
Without NATO, Turkey would be Greece, Armenia, Syria and Russia right now
>>75061017
>>75061588
Not so sure about this. But your country need this umbrella less then Turkey anyway
>>75061590
P.S. Those used in Georgia were outdated too. ;)
>>75045887
Didn't realise Georgia bordered the North Atlantic
>>75045887
Nothing good can come from NATO expansion on our borders.
>>75063008
>Implying war isn't good
>>75045887
The US should pull out of NATO and the UN.
The slavs are the only non-cucked race in Europe. Let them take it through conquest.
>>75063147
Russia doesn't present any added value. Everywhere it spreads its cancerous influence, poverty, corruption, miseration of masses, AIDS infections, homicide rate and fast islamisation grow to the heaven.
I think that Europe would be much better off while conquered by Poland :)
>>75053038
That's funny, considering you're living on German welfare.
Come clean the toilet, Janek, you are drunk.
>>75063426
Better shut up and take these refugees, before we cut your allowance.
>>75063673
>you're living on German welfare.
We are living thanks to our strong economy, hardworking ethos, talents and organisation. Stop this "EU-money" meme already. It is really annoying. Such guys like you claim that Israel is the best and most developed country in the Middle East because it "takes money from USA", not because Jews are superior to their neighbours. We are basically a better human material than our neighbours from Belarus, Ukraine or other postcommie shitholes that are poorer than Poland despite being richer yet in 1990.
>>75063922
>We are living thanks to our strong economy
Ahaha. You don't have an economy. All your banks belong to us, all your production belongs to us.
We are giving you 5,5 billions euro every year out of our taxes, you don't die from hunger.
The only thing you're good at is being prostitutes in our brothels and cleaning our toilets.
>>75064103
>All your banks belong to us
Curently only around 45% of overall capital of banks is foreign, the rest is Polish, and this ratio will be even lower when government will buy PekaoSA from Italians soon (it is our second biggest bank). Besides your capital is not dominant in Polish banking sector at all.
https://www.wprost.pl/509224/Polowa-bankow-znow-w-polskich-rekach
> all your production belongs to us.
Barely 16% of all capital in all Polish companies is foreign.
> We are giving you 5,5 billions euro every year out of our taxes, you don't die from hunger.
This 5 bln euro is paid from taxes of all countries that contributed to the EU budget, not only from your money. And it was already explained that it is not a real money, but a handout that EU should be even ashamed to mention: >>75047731>>75059118
>>75064338
> the rest is Polish
>Polish companies
Nice fantasies, Janek. Poland doesn't have own banks or companies. Because it doesn't produce anything except crime and prostitution.
You are the niggers of Europe - living on welfare, dumb, criminal and thinking that they wuz kangz and shiet
>>75046371
Poland-Britain alliance when?
The english are basically the slavs of western europe anyway.
>>75064575
Wow, dude, you are stupid like a stone.
>>75064575
Poland is literally 10 times the country Germany is.
You're just butthurt because Poland was the enemy of the ottoman empire, your turkish masters.
Georgia here. We don't want to join ur fag treaty. Get the hell out of DIXIE!!!
>>75050018
They've been sending troops to the NATO mission in Afghanistan since 2009
>>75064575
The thing is that Poland will only grow from now on, you will only fall into crime, instability, conflicts and poverty.
They will buy it all back from you.
>>75045887
Its just rhetoric, it won't happen.
>>75045887
The real victims here are the Georgians. The US has a long history of promising military support to "strategic allies" to piss off rival powers only to not show up when the rival power invades the allied nation.
Georgia probably will not become part of NATO. But the US will continue to give them military aid and hint that we will help them if Russia ever comes knocking again. We probably won't help them, to avoid war with Russia.
Georgia is one of many pawns the DC-Brussels axis uses. Sad! The Georgians would be better off siding with Russia, desu...
>>75064103
> Greece with 4x smaller population and higher wages than Poland takes more EU-funds than Poland
> Spain with 2x higher GDP per capita than Poland takes almost the same money as Poland
EU is fucking shit
>>75045887
>Do you support Georgia's membership in NATO?
No.
The only point is to piss off the Russian, fuck NATO.
>>75063426
Poland already conquered Europe's toilets.
>>75053355
Never understood why you hate your old president. He pretty much fixed the country. Before him, Georgia was the most corrupt place I know. Criminals were everywhere. Saakashvili pretty much did the impossible and made a proper European country. We were in better shape back then but now we are decades behind. It is all because of saakashvili.
>>75065412
Not really. Russian influence is cancerous. Look at us. Corruption ruined our country and it all comes from Russian influence.
>>75066952
A manual labour in the West earns more than rocket scientists in Russia. If your shithole became member of EU, half of it would be emptied in few weeks.
>>75067151
at first he was not that bad, but later he was compete shit, he was not that great either I don't remember criminals being everywhere before Saakasvhili, building penis shaped building is not making a proper European country, it's still a shithole, but at least now you don't get blackmailed and beaten up by government, unlike during Saakashvili, he is corrupt as fuck himself.. also he is on drugs and act like a total nigger and embarrasses our country, there is a reason why everyone hates him.
>>75067965
>muh money from white massa
So much for conquering Europe, huh. :^)
>>75067991
I passed through Georgia before him. Spent a few hours on the border. My father had some money on him, they took it and tried to give him fake ones instead(good he noticed), then a Georgian guy sorted everything out and said it is fucked up and helped us go through Tbilisi. Now, the police are fucking nice, they didn't even stop me for speeding, they just told me to slow down. The roads are heaventier, border staff are amazing.
>>75068266
It is called market, pal. Just imagine that all of a sudden a country where salaries/pensions are 3x higher than in your country opens itself for you, and from now on you can take any job you want there, and obtain a right to higher retirement, without any kind of visa or permission, the only thing you need is to buy a bus ticket. Differences between _nominal_ incomes are an engine that fuels our emigration, not bad quality of life in Poland. I myself worked almost 5 years abroad to buy new apartment here for cash. Otherwise i would have to take a loan in bank in Poland for 20 years and live in constant fear. We transfer tens of billions euro from the West to Poland this way, and yeah, you can call it a form of "economical conquer" because locals in Western countries have a problem with find jobs because of us
Fuck no.
Fuck NATO.
Fucking Cold War Era derelict string-pulling destabilization machine.
Fuck being a kike pawn.
Fuck Globalism.
>>75068526
That's hardly conquering anything because that's exactly what they colonized you for. Sure, it may be good for Poland, but you should part with your delusions about independence and recognize the huge positive role EU is playing for you.
>>75053144
British posters are cancer
>>75068844
> colonized
I think that you are colonized even by Poland because you literally can't live without our money that we pay for your natural resources that you sell out for a living. We are second biggest buyer of your energocarriers in Europe with a purchase of about 20 bln dollar / year. Thanks to hardworking Poles and their money, a lot of Russian corrupted businessmen can drive in new mercedeses in Moscow.
My point is that we live in a globalized world full of dependencies and none of us can call himself fully independent. The only reason for which you are more independent than Poland is the fact that you own a nuclear weapon. But even this thing can be changed soon, everything depends on geopolitical situation and its transformation
>>75046371
Based Estonia was meeting its obligation as of a year or two ago.
>>75046371
Nice Bullshit you got there
>>75067965
>A manual labour in the West earns more than rocket scientists in Russia
Please, tell me how much rocket scientists make in Russia.
>>75069617
> 2013
Our government plans to rise military spendings to 3% in next few years and rise number of our professional army from 150k to 300k, which would be almost half of the size of Russian army
>>75069617
>post outdated bullshit data
>call others bullshit
no wonder your capital is like 90% brown
>>75069021
Yeah, being an integrated part of globalised world seems pretty nice until you go on /pol/ and witness some of its drawbacks. But I'm sure it's worth those extra shekels down the line, right? Or do you think that being so heavily dependent on the West you will survive and prosper if they go to shit? At least we would still have those resources and means to use them. What will you have?
Indeed, the only countries that can be called truly independent are the ones that have nukes, with some exceptions maybe. But how did we get those nukes? How did we manage to survive many attempts to conquer and exterminate us while similarly saving you from that?
>>75070328
>being so heavily dependent on the West
You are more dependent on the West than we do. You are our gasoline station and your future depends on price of oil and gas that we will be willing to pay for your natural resources. As you can see, price of oil fell down by 50%, along with a real value of your salaries, you are a fucking oil-nigger, just like gentlemens from such countries like Nigeria.
>>75070478
Okay. I guess we'll go down together, but we're with land, population and resources and you're with plumbing tools.
>>75070893
Your land is in 90% empty or looks like third world, full of deserted and died out ghost towns and villages. Your criminal elite of thieves packed you like a cattle in biggest cities to control you better, except few biggest cities that can be easily nuked, Russia is dead or dying. Your population "grows" only thanks to newly obtained muslim and asian third-world-shithole migrants. Your resources will be probably completely useless because of energetical revolution that is taking place as we speak. What do you need resources that nobody will want to pay a high price for anymore? And stop this "plumbing meme", Russian kike. You insult people who do honest job. A plumber is much more useful than all these petrodollar-funded parasites that rule your dirty futureless country.
There is a chance that even i will be able to piss on grave of your nation, and my children for sure.
>>75070478
http://www.awarablogs.com/share-of-oil-and-gas-in-russias-tax-revenue-dropped-to-21/
Rents from oil and gas made up 21% of the overall consolidated government budget. Since 2013 individual pay-roll taxes made up the majority of their budget revenues. Update your talking points Geralt.
>>75071525
> budget
Accordingly to Putin budget of Russia grows thanks to low oil price so if we use this logics, we can conclude that Russians will be infinite rich when oil price reaches 0 :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl9cyJtUozY
>>75071703
Um, that's how currencies work. Being a fellow gastarbeiter exporter you should've at least encountered this or maybe heard about it from others.
>>75072023
You didn't get the joke, i guess.
>>75071443
>migrants
>posts natural growth charts
>>75071443
>Your land is in 90% empty or looks like third world
Unless global warming is just a meme, its been predicted that Russia is going to be a net winner over the next decades when climate becomes a lot more mild, opening up large parts of the continental heartland for utilization as well as spawning even more great rivers and lakes.
>Your criminal elite of thieves packed you like a cattle in biggest cities to control you better,
There's no malice involved, its just fact of further growth that you need to urbanize more.
>except few biggest cities that can be easily nuked,
WIth the S-500 and S-400 systems coming online it would significantly raise the threshold of delivery systems needed to overwhelm the defences. Suddenly long range cruise missiles like Tomahawks and IRBMs are useless.
>Your population "grows" only thanks to newly obtained muslim and asian third-world-shithole migrants.
Most of their immigrants that settled in Russia are actually former Soviet citizens or even ethnic Russians themselves. Meanwhile, London has about as much mudslimes as Moscow which is a twice bigger city.
>Your resources will be probably completely useless because of energetical revolution that is taking place as we speak.
What revolution? That LockMart truck mounted fusion reactor? We haven't heard from it since, and its probably going to enter the 5 years in the future cycle sometime soon, like the rest.
>>75071443
Urbanization is a natural process that has nothing to do with our elites. They are actually trying to space it out and make people live in other regions. I don't think Pooland can nuke anyone, sorry.
Demographics are still not good, but the trends are reversed and they are gradually improving after the shitstorm of 90s.
We have all kinds of resources, don't worry. If oil becomes useless thanks to Polish geniuses inventing a new energy source, we could sell something else. And I was talking about using them, not simply selling for the extra profits.
>You insult people who do honest job.
And you aren't doing the same? You call our rulers parasites. Suppose that's true, but then who's feeding them? Isn't that the people who do honest labor? I asked you earlier, who do you think made the nukes we have now, who saved you ungrateful niggers from nazi extermination, who took you to the space?
>There is a chance that even i will be able to piss on grave of your nation, and my children for sure.
Good luck with that. People have been saying that for as long as Russia existed and we're still standing. Meanwhile you're completely dependent on EU handouts and work places and will be forced to mongrelize eventually to keep receiving gibs from globalists.
>>75073210
If Russia is so great and cool, why do you reside in other country, huh Russian expat? I don't like remote patriots.
>>75071443
Shut up Poland.
>>75073462
Nope, 142% Flip. Closest link you can get me to the Russians is through Mongols (who blanda upped with the Chinks who then blanda upped with browns).
>>75074094
I just realized your country is much poorer than Poland. You average wage is around 200 dollar, that's fucking hardcore. Our unemployment benefit is smth around this.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/philippines/wages
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/poland/wages
Looks like you could use some work-emigration too to Western countries, the problem is that you can't do it because you are not EU member, right? :D
Xth for Georgia is best country
