Need /pol/'s help on figuring this term out.
This is a phrase I see here frequently, but have had some difficulty in figuring out exactly what it means.
I've attempting to look up a lot of references on this, however, most of them reek of shilling, attempting to draw comparisons between alt-right and the KKK/Nazi Regime/etc.
I'm curious if this is accurate as per the /pol/ definition, or, if most online resources in this matter of have kiked out.
Appreciate the help.
>>75008205
Alt-Right is the newfangled attempt to create a catch-all term for conservatives who do not fall into the neo-conservative fold.
The primary connection is in social conservatism, particularly a logical view on race and culture. There is a secondary focus on economics, but this is less set in stone as Libertarians are often grouped into the Alt-Right even though they tend to be social liberals and lots of social conservatives do not believe in a free market.
>>75008697
Okay - that falls in line with a lot of what I've seen. Would it be safe to say that the Alt-Right is Conservatism without the Evangelical ties?
>>75008979
Yeah, it's social conservatism based on logic rather than religion, which many see as a weakness that is largely responsible for a lot of our current societal problems.
>>75009784
Lack of religion is the cause of a lot of our society problems. Disregard this post this guy has no idea what he's talking about.
>>75008979
It's basically anyone that's race realist and hates jews
>>75010117
Though now that I think about it Jared Taylor/AmRen don't hate jews at least openly and they're classified as alt-right so even that definition doesn't work.
>>75010052
Sorry - I was asking for a definition of Alt-Right. He wasn't advocating for Alt-Right, he was providing me with the definition I was requesting.
If you're saying disregard, can you correct his definition to something more accurate?
>>75010117
JIDF, is that you?
>>75008205
Stop being autistic about terminology. This isn't a roleplaying game. Stop obsessing over the name of your guild.
>>75010414
Well I'd say that while not everyone in the alt-right is religious, what separates us from the atheists on the left is most have very traditionalist views and recognize the importance of faith in a healthy society.
>>75008205
it's white nationalism with memes.
>>75008205
They are correct.
The alt right is the term for race realist and white nationalists. Also includes nazis etc. Its actually the milofags trying to reinvent the term.
>the "alt right"
milo
gavin
anoyone who ben shapiro """""h8s""""""
>based boys
taylor
spencer
duke
robinson
>>75010513
Yes, how dare I attempt to understand.
>>75010552
Alright, so amending what I said earlier to:
Alt-Right is a Modern Conservative movement that while not having strong Evangelical ties, understands the importance of faith and tradition in society.
Would that be more accurate?
>>75008205
There is no "alt right". It's just a repackaged right for millennials.
>comparisons between alt-right and the KKK/Nazi Regime/etc.
It's the same thing, alt-right means literal KKK-Nazi- Republican hybrid, which is why I'll never even make a right turn again, I call the concept Anti-Zoolandian.
>>75010935
Yes
>>75010935
>Alt-Right is a Modern Conservative movement that while not having strong Evangelical ties, understands the importance of faith and tradition in society.
>Would that be more accurate?
No. The "alt" right is just the right that has stopped pretending. It still believes all the same stupid shit like that everyone should be forced to live under a jewish theocracy and that the rich can do no wrong. It's EXACTLY the same. Literally the only fucking difference is that mainstream republicans deny hating non-whites in public. That's literally it. And there are no NatSocs in the alt right. This is a very common lie. When you analyze them they're all just capitalists.
>>75008205
I'd say the alt-right is basically the realization that our forefathers weren't stupid and that the beliefs they held about race, certain religions, government policy, and the importance of traditional western values weren't based in some blind, uninformed hatred for anything non-european.
This pic attached should explain it.
We are at stage 3 now. Ron Paul and other Libertarians were stage 2 but Rand Paul leaving officially ending that. Trump is the next stage.
We are quite prepared to have a dictator if we have to. How long did you think whites were going to put up this insanity?
When people call Trump the God-Emperor it is only half joking. It is the highest praise we can offer to someone trying to save our people.
The fire rises all through western countries. We have been awakened.
>>75010935
it's really more about race than anything.
It's similar to the tea party before the RINOs took over it
Others say it is conservativism without the religious aspect and RINOs and that it rejects political correctness completely
>>75010935
There is no Christian element in the Alt-Right, there are a few nut jobs who don't fit in with other Evangelicals because of other views, but Christianity is not strongly represented and is dominated by neo-conservative Evangelism.
Unless faith and tradition are euphemisms for less niggers and feminism, >>75010052 is an outlier or being deliberately dishonest.
>>75011369
>It's similar to the tea party
lolno, back to rebbit.
This will fill you in on the players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7aG-VQYGhA
Corny but fun.
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/03/06/big-tentism/
>>75011342
This is really accurate actually
>>75008205
GAS THE KIKES!
RACE WAR NOW!!
>>75010552
Yes, this is a good point.
Am I reading /pol/ or is /pol/ reading me?
>>75011342
Trump isn't even stage 1, you retarded faggot leaf. Trump isn't even a conservative. He's just a demagogue telling morons what they want to hear.
>Hurr a billionaire wants to stop third world immigration
NO.
>>75011424
At least half of the people in the picture I posted hold some sort of Christian religious views.
>>75011512
>Childless single men who masturbate to anime
HAHAHAHAHA
>>75011715
Of course he's not a fucking conservative. Neither is the alt-right.
The alt-right is Nationalist, not conservative.
>>75011821
Christianity is not a tenant of Alt-Right beliefs. Literally all Christian churches have been pro-refugee since the crisis started. Modern Christianity, whether Evangelism or more traditional, is the definition of cuckoldry, and has nothing to do with Alt-Right politics whatsoever.
>>75011617
>>75012073
The alt-right is more of a Pagan movement than a Christian one.
>>75011342
Post of the year.
The fire rises.
>>75012028
>Neither is the alt-right
Well I would say that calling conservatives "conservative" is a misnomer since they don't conserve shit. But pretending that the "alt-right" is anything other than repackaged republicunts is just retarded.
>>75010983
Sorry, I don't believe that.
>>75011082
Again, I don't believe this. If this is truly the case, please cite something, or provide a link. Most of the people responding haven't shown that level of hybridization.
>>75011086
Thank you.
>>75011275
Okay, by very nature of what you said it seems that you're presenting a biased viewpoint. Can you point me to a reference, that isn't editable by anyone that makes an account, that shows this level of parallel?
>>75011328
That seems to make sense with many of the things I've seen.
>>75011342
The pic actually is startlingly similar to how my political views have evolved over the last 10 years. Good read.
>>75011369
Would this not be a part of the evolution that the >>75011342 (leaf) posted?
>>75008205
Alt-right is memespeak for cowards who talk shit on the chans but are too low-energy to move out of their mom's basement.
They like Hitler and Anime, but hate women and anyone who isn't white.
Essentially /r9k/ if they spent time reading Brietbart instead of Returnofkings.
>>75012328
>>75012288
Make sure to spread that everywhere to give people a bit of a political compass.
We're all going through political changes at the moment.
>>75012328
>Okay, by very nature of what you said it seems that you're presenting a biased viewpoint
You spelled accurate wrong. I've been watching and actively involved in the "alt" right since it came into being. It's a farce. It's nothing but republicanism for 20 year old edgy white, middle class boys. That's all it fucking is. There is not one fucking difference between the "alt" right and a republican except the alt right says in public what republicans won't, but still believe and say in private.
>Can you point me to a reference, that isn't editable by anyone that makes an account, that shows this level of parallel?
Yeah. It's called paying the fuck attention. Give me one difference between the mainstream right and the "alt" right and I'll show how full of shit you are. Any perceived differences between the two are in the minds of the right generally. The republicunts want to dissavow the alt because they're honest about the reps' ugly beliefs and the alt wants to dissavow the reps because they hide them. That's literally the only difference. The reps are more PC.
>>75012487
Go back to Shillaryland faggot
>>75012487
>Alt-right is memespeak for cowards who talk shit on the chans but are too low-energy to move out of their mom's basement.
This. "Alt" right is entirely an internet phenomenon born mostly of middle class 20 somethings living in their parents' houses.
>>75012073
>Literally all Christian churches
Christian churches =||= christianity
The church is a group of pedophiles who like money.
There are less white children to have "fun" with and less people who pay money to the church (expecially in europe). So the church starts to import children and people who might pay.
Forcing genocide of one ethnicity is ok for the interests of the church, but not for the idea of christianity. These 2 are not the same!
>>75012700
>>75012316
>>75011969
>>75011715
>>75011275
>>75010983
Holy fuck with the shilling.
People who are out of the regular political spectrum
>>75012774
Truth hurts, huh? I forgot this part. The "alt" right is far more buttpained about the women who won't fuck them than the republicunts because reps can actually get laid.
>>75012073
>Christianity is not a tenant of Alt-Right beliefs
This is a flat out lie.
>>75012253
This is a far worse lie.
>>75012856
>leaf
>>75012700
Calm down son, I don't need to get cut on any of those edges. All I said was that it seemed like your viewpoint was biased.
I don't know what Alt-Right is, that's why I made this thread. I asked for a citation. Can you provide one, or will you simply scream "Open your eyes" like some crazed numerologist that's convinced we have 96 hours to live?
>>75012960
Wow you are butthurt. This Alt-Right movement can't be stopped and it's expanded far beyond places like 4chan so shilling here does not make a difference at all.
Alt-Right is mainstream and just took over the republican party.
>>75013043
That's the only citation there is. Watch what the "alt" right says, then actually does and you'll quickly see it's a giant farce put on by butthurt 20something white boys who can't get laid and are literally mouthing republican beliefs while calling them something else. Take libertarians. Good luck finding a belief they hold that isn't just a republican belief. Although there is another difference between the "alt" right and the right and that's that the mainstream right at least pretends to have morals, which the "alt" right, being that it's composed of millennials, predictably, has none and supports shit like prostitution and recreational drug legalization.
>>75013239
There is no alt right movmement, moron. The right has existed your entire lifespan. Calling it something else won't fix your garbage.
>Alt-Right is mainstream and just took over the republican party.
Um sort of yes and no. But that's exactly my point. It didn't "take over" anything because it was never significantly different. Alt right is literally just being a republican repackaged for millennial boys.
>>75012960
No, just the paid shilling hurts. At least I hope you're getting paid, because the alternative is scary.
>>75013530
I'm not butt-hurt about not getting laid.
I don't get laid because I refuse to accept the shit-tier marriage candidates that get passed off as "women" now days.
>>75013530
>butthurt 20something white boys
To a fair extent, but I disagree with it being Republicans.
A lot of the alt right is sort of made up by the libertarian media to explain the growing popularity of far-right non republican beliefs.
A lot of it can be summed up by pic related, too.
>>75008205
Well personally I'm basically a national socialist who doesn't give a shit about gays or jesus. And I don't want to gas all minorities and communists, I just want the criminal elements of these groups expelled from the United States.
Call me what you will.
>>75013986
>libertarian
Meant liberal, my bad.
Anyhow, the alt-right is mostly a way to slap a label on all disparate forms of anger that don't funnel into SJW-ism.
>>75013680
>because the alternative is scary.
Yeah, you mean that someone on /pol/ would recognize reality and not stampede with the moron herd on memes. I know right?
You know, I've heard a lot of anal wreckage in this thread, but I've yet to see anyone actually state even ONE difference between the "alt" right and the mainstream right other than what I've already summarized. I challenge anyone to find me a difference other than the following:
- The "alt" right is mostly younger than the mainstream right
- The "alt" right is more openly amoral and supports things like legalizing everything
- SOME libertarians are against America's constant warmongering
- The "alt" right is more openly racist
That's literally about it. Let me know if I missed anything. Anymore bitching about how "u stupid" or "u a shill" will be ignored now. Have a point, or get the fuck out. /pol/ used to have fucking standards.
>>75013986
>To a fair extent, but I disagree with it being Republicans.
Of course you do. All "alt" right faggots hate being called what they are. You are super speshul snowflake millennials after all.
>pic
You're right. You found another difference. The "alt" right is also a lot more open about it's faggotry, whereas the mainstream right hides it in airport restrooms. kek
>>75014057
>I'm basically a national socialist
Prove it. Prove you're a socialist. At this point, I've just come to expect that when someone says they're a "NatSoc" what they actually means is they're an American capitalist who likes Nazi iconography.
>>75014057
That how many of the alt-right are.
There just seems to be a lot of anger in here surrounding this particular group, and it reminds me of what I see daily in liberal politics.
The people on the side of, or attempting to provide a definition are reasonably calm.
The people against it have resorted to numerous cases of ad-hom and strawmanning the arguments in an attempt to try and make it seem like something other than it is.
As a reminder, I had no idea what this was when the thread started. But more and more just by virtue of some of the negative attacks on the posters attempting to provide these definitions, I'm starting to think it's something that should be even more... "mainstream"... than it already is.
I do not know why opposition to a thing means you have to be intrinsically belligerent, but providing a dishonest viewpoint does little to bring to light the negative aspects of a movement.
Thanks to all who responded, even the asshats. I think I have my answer.
>>75014342
>>75013986
I would have to agree that most of the people that fall under the alt-right label don't really hold republican values. I think most of the alt-right would be willing to accept that democracy is nearly as much of a failed project as the soviet union.
The only way to maintain Democracy's integrity is to limit who votes. But if you are going to arbitrarily decide who votes you might as well just have some form of monarchy or aristocracy.
>>75014640
I'm still waiting. Take your time.
>>75014601
See
>>75011342
We're just trying to protect our people and culture. White Nationalism exists because it was forced to exist.
>>75014903
Why try to prove anything to such a pathetic bitter cuck? Go shill elsewhere.
>>75008205
"alt-right" is a catchall term for
rightwing" ideologies that don't fall within the modern traditional spectrum of what is known as conservatism.
because it is loose definition, you'll find a lot of different ideologies, but in general it's a neo-nationalist and semi-neo-traditionalist movement that largely embraces what is known as race realism.
>>75010117
most of the alt-right's anti-semitism comes from just pointing that jews dominate the media and are mostly leftists.
>>75008979
>Would it be safe to say that the Alt-Right is Conservatism without the Evangelical ties?
not necessarily. you'll find a lot of christian traditionalist within the alt-right.
>>75010935
>Alt-Right is a Modern Conservative movement that while not having strong Evangelical ties, understands the importance of faith and tradition in society.
theres a lot of atheists in the alt-right too...
>>75015163
>"alt-right" is a catchall term for "rightwing" ideologies...
i should really proofread my posts more
>>75015163
The alt right is about as antisemitic as the mainstream right: that is, they're schizophrenic about it. On one hand they suck jewish cock like there's no tomorrow, on the other they bitch about "bankers", then bail them out with taxpayer money then defend it because they're rich. Some of the most vocal "alt" righters or their heroes are jews, let's not forget.
>>75015138
No seriously. Prove me wrong. It should be easy if I am, shouldn't it?
>>75015163
Yeah - I'm starting to get a sense for what it is. Reading over most people's responses has given me the idea that it's essentially a conservative group that neither hates nor espouses a religious doctrine, and their primary concern is understanding the necessity/destructive nature of both culture integration and culture seperation.
I've also started to believe the culture viewpoints are what cause their enemies on the left to label them as racists.
>>75015374
I knew what you were getting at. Appreciated.
>>75014342
The AltRight consists mostly of three groups:
1) Nationalist, Populist, Protectionist Capitalists. Still capitalists, but localized ones completely opposed to Globalism & the issues it brings.
2) National Socialists
3) Neoreaction/Traditionalists
Now, shut the fuck up with your kvetching.
>>75015417
JIDF pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcuRIcy31Oo
heres a panel of popular alt-right talking heads, even the guy who coined the term, notice how they crack jokes about the Jewish media.
>On one hand they suck jewish cock like there's no tomorrow, on the other they bitch about "bankers", then bail them out with taxpayer money then defend it because they're rich
no one, to my knowledge, in the alt-right defends bank bailouts bailouts, and everyone in the alt-right recognizes the amount of jews in banking
>Some of the most vocal "alt" righters or their heroes are jews, let's not forget.
nobody gives a shit about Weev
>>75016201
I most of the prominent alt-right figureheads don't really care about Jews.
What they dislike is when someone lives in one nation but claims loyalty to another nation( and that nation's ideals and culture) and actively tries to undermine the nation they are living in to serve that outside nation.
Jews just happen to be a primary offender. Muslims can be just as bad this way. When you are a guest you should be respectful and grateful to your host, otherwise get the fuck out.
>>75016038
>Still capitalists, but localized ones completely opposed to Globalism
I would strongly debate that. Libertarians are almost all globalist. And the "alt" right's views on capitalism can hardly be said to be "nationalist". Especially if you're making money on the labor of brown people, like the current global capitalist system already is.
>National Socialists
Whey do people keep saying this? I honestly don't think you people know what a NatSoc actually is. Protip: it's not a capitalist who believes christianity should be mandated by law.
>Neoreaction/Traditionalists
This almost means nothing by now. There are exceedingly few people who could hold to actual traditionalist views on the "alt" right. Most "alt" righters are just republican capitalists who like to role play as monarchists or Nazis.
>Now, shut the fuck up with your kvetching.
Alright, show me ONE actual REAL NatSoc on the "alt" right and I will.
>>75016201
>notice how they crack jokes about the Jewish media.
And this is different from the mainstream right how?
>in the alt-right defends bank bailouts bailouts
Of course they do. They just claim not to. But the vast majority of them are in favor of corporate subsidies, even while claiming they don't. To the right, "alt" or otherwise, the rich can do no wrong. They even deny that things like corporate welfare even exist, which is patent nonsense.
>everyone in the alt-right recognizes the amount of jews in banking
Literally EVERYONE on Earth recognizes the amount of jews in banking. Yet they still got trillions in bailout money.
>Weev
I honestly only know this name in passing. But that just goees to show how many there are. I was talking more about the heroes of libertarians and kikes like Milo and Ben Shapiro who you faggots only turned on recently - you were sucking his dick like there was no tomorrow a year ago.
>>75016038
You can't be a socialist and be on the right. The edgy "national socialists" on here are really just nationalists. If they're socialist then they aren't AltRight.
Same as how a lot of skinheads are capitalists.
>>75016839
>Only knows about weev in passing
>Thinks his opinion matters
>>75016839
>And this is different from the mainstream right how?
when was the last you heard anyone in the republican party say a jewish joke? my bets on never.
>Of course they do. They just claim not to. But the vast majority of them are in favor of corporate subsidies, even while claiming they don't.
[citation needed]
the alt-right is broadly libertarian when it comes to economics retard. only neo-cons are in favor of bailouts and corporate subsidies.
>To the right, "alt" or otherwise, the rich can do no wrong.
you are honestly the first person i have ever heard attribute this sentiment to the alt-right. you are clearly pulling talking points out of your ass.
>They even deny that things like corporate welfare even exist, which is patent nonsense.
no one in the alt-right says these things.
>I honestly only know this name in passing. But that just goees to show how many there are.
Weev is the only jew that i've heard of that is arguably in the alt-right
>I was talking more about the heroes of libertarians
the alt-right, broadly speaking, is not libertarian. the only libertarians that partly identify as alt-right are libertarian ethno-nationalists.
>and kikes like Milo
despite his claims, he's hardly alt-right and not that popular within the movement.
>and Ben Shapiro
kek, no one likes or respects him anymore.
>you were sucking his dick like there was no tomorrow a year ago.
nigger please, we liked lil' benji because he triggered the people we wanted triggered, we never considered him one of us, the same went with that one black guy that writes for the national cuckview.
>Alright, show me ONE actual REAL NatSoc on the "alt" right and I will.
Weev :^)
>>75008205
"Alt-right" is just the new kike boogeyman word to be used when "racist" and "fascist" get overused.
>>75017837
>Caring about Youtube autists.
Never. Not ever. Not even sorry.
>>75018697
>when was the last you heard anyone in the republican party say a jewish joke?
You hear it all the time in private. And when they get caught. Like I said. The "alt" right is just the right with the mask dropped a bit.
>[citation needed]
No, fucking citation needed that they're against them, because I have yet to hear ONE "alt" rightest have anything but praise for Elon Musk or similar.
>only neo-cons are in favor of bailouts and corporate subsidies.
This is a flat out lie. The VAST and overwhelming majority of republicunts are for corporate welfare.
>you are honestly the first person i have ever heard attribute this sentiment to the alt-right.
That's because you're a moron.
>you are clearly pulling talking points out of your ass.
Prove me wrong then. Admit that the rich are the ones wrecking the economy, depressing wages and importing third worlders. Say ONE thing that holds the rich accountable for the evil bullshit they've done - not so fast - you don't get to yell "muh bankers". Pick someone rich who isn't in finance.
>no one in the alt-right says these things.
They say them on /pol/ literally every single day. In fact I want you to admit corporate welfare exists and give an example - again, other than in the financial sector, because that is by no means the only place it exists.
>Weev is the only jew that i've heard of that is arguably in the alt-right
Milo, all the libertarian heroes are kikes, Ben Shapiro was for the longest time. But I already said all this.
>the alt-right, broadly speaking, is not libertarian
What is or isn't "libertarian" is debatable, but the republicans have always held to basically all libertarian economic beliefs in words at least if not in deeds.
alt-right is just when you tried to type "all right" but fucked it up
>>75016839
So I tell you who it consists of and you assert that I'm wrong.
Nigger, I fucking run one of the biggest AltRight/Reactionary commentary sites. I know the people, I know their beliefs.
You should learn to lurk more rather than spewing bullshit.
>>75018697
>despite his claims, he's hardly alt-right and not that popular within the movement.
Is this like when christian apologists try to claim that most christians aren't pro-Israel? Fucking lel. You faggot. There are literally queers sucking Milo's dick all over the "alt" right every single day. Fuck he WRITES for their publications. I don't know what fucking planet you're on. Actually, I do. You're just trying to remove yourself from assocation with someone who is becoming unpopular, just like your shit "movement" did with Shapiro. Everyone kept accusing you faggots of worshipping kikes so you eventually turned against him.
>>75019397
>Weev is a youtube autist
i don't even know if he has a youtube account
>You hear it all the time in private.
do you have proofs?
>muh elon musk
elon musk is a government contractor that does space shit
>republicunts
i don't even know why i'm continuing to to read your posts. you obviously have nothing of value to say
>Admit that the rich are the ones wrecking the economy
no socialism and shitty trade deals did that, albeit the rich backed the shitty trade deals.
>depressing wages and importing third worlders.
yes the rich are in fact pushing for this. this is a commonly accepted fact in the alt-right.
>Say ONE thing that holds the rich accountable for the evil bullshit they've done
now? not much.
i'm having some trouble understanding this. you blame republicans for the rich, yet you vote for the people give the rich all their power and open the borders up for shitskins to come and depress wages?
>not so fast - you don't get to yell "muh bankers". Pick someone rich who isn't in finance.
what the fuck are you even talking about? how are banks supposed to hold the rich accountable? your strawman isn't making any sense anon.
>In fact I want you to admit corporate welfare exists and give an example - again, other than in the financial sector, because that is by no means the only place it exists.
agriculture
pharmaceuticals
automotives
transportation
telecommunications
the list goes on.
>Milo, all the libertarian heroes are kikes, Ben Shapiro was for the longest time. But I already said all this.
they were never considered part of the movement you dense fuck, they were only allies of convenience.
>the republicans have always held to basically all libertarian economic beliefs in words at least if not in deeds.
>muh republicans want corporate subsidies
>but republicans are totally libertarian you guys
can you please keep your strawman straight, its getting hard to keep up.
>>75018697
>kek, no one likes or respects him anymore.
>ANYMORE
Exactly. You're offering up sacrifices from your own fold to spare yourselves, like true republicunts. And you shitheads claim to be different kek.
>Weev
Omg lol. I'm glad I read up on him:
“If you believe the mainstream portrayal of World War II, the citizens of the United States sacrificed for the benefit of the Jews. My grandfather sacrificed his youth serving the Armed Forces, going blind in the defense of a foreign peoples. After we finished rescuing Jewry, we invited them into our home. We treated them as honored guests. They repaid us with treachery. They did the same thing to us that they did to the Germans. They took control of our systems of finance and law. They hyperinflated our currency. They corrupted our daughters and demanded they subject themselves to sex work to feed their families. These are a people that have made themselves a problem in every nation they occupy, including ours. What’s saddest is that we are the enablers of this problem. The Jews abused our compassion to build an empire of wickedness the likes the world has never seen.”
Yet another jew wishing he was Whitey. Kek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weev
>In 2012, Auernheimer told Gawker that he had Jewish ancestry
Lel
>Auernheimer has celiac disease
Lel
>A fucking jewish NeoNazi
Literally what else is new? He does seem to be sort of in favor of some socialist concepts, but I still remain unconvinced he’s a socialist. FYI: NeoNazis are the complete opposite of socialists. They’re mostly just racial capitalists. So, again, even the one example you give can't even be shown to be a socialist.
>>75017837
Oh see above btw. Weev's a kike. Big surprise, I know.
>>75020352
You haven't countered anything yet. In fact all you've done is agree with me and then been so retarded you didn't realize you were.
>>75021227
I countered your assertion that AltRight was racist republicans. Not even close.
>Being this retarded
>>75020480
>Is this like when christian apologists try to claim that most christians aren't pro-Israel?
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION FROM? ARE YOU DRUNK?
>he WRITES for their publications.
kikebart is not an alt-right publication. its an alt-right friendly conservative publication.
TRS, amren, radix journal, vdare, and others are alt-right publications.
>You're just trying to remove yourself from assocation with someone who is becoming unpopular
if anything Milo is becoming more popular you retard. we don't consider him one of us because he's closer to paleo-conservatism than the alt-right
>just like your shit "movement" did with Shapiro.
shapiro was only moderately popular within the alt-right. like i said, he was only an ally of convenience.
>>75020352
>Nigger, I fucking run one of the biggest AltRight/Reactionary commentary sites.
I don't find that surprising in the least. Republicans aren't particularly well-known for self-analysis.
>You should learn to lurk more rather than spewing bullshit.
And you should learn to have a point instead of claiming bullshit, then getting btfo, then claiming victory. You have yet to prove you're right about anything. You just have bullshit claims that reality say the opposite about on a daily basis. If that's the best you've got, you failed. Just go join the republican party. You're not nearly as different as you think you are.
>>75020975
>i don't even know if he has a youtube account
I thought he was someone else. I looked him up and I'm glad I did because it was fucking hilarious.
>do you have proofs?
Nah I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but it happens all the time. And if you're going to sit there and claim that republicans aren't schizophrenic about jews, you reveal how young and inexperienced you are.
>elon musk is a government contractor that does space shit
Yeah, that's my point. So is everyone in the MIC, which you no doubt support unfailingly. How is that not giving someone public tax dollars for private profit? Because muh "space gods" even though we're using century old German rocket technology?
>no socialism and shitty trade deals did that
>Claiming the opposite of history is history
Kek. Sure it was. It was "socialism". So when was America "Socialist"?
>and shitty trade deals did that
Wouldn't have anything to do with the rich manipulating the economy to benefit themselves, then crashing everything and getting bailed out?
>conservashits
>self-aware
Kek
>albeit the rich backed the shitty trade deals.
You mean created them? Stop being such a fucking faggot cuckold you limp-wristed pussy. But you wouldn't be a republican if you weren't weak with a big mouth.
I got into the alt-right when it was pretty new. Read a lot of Mencius Moldbug and TheRightStuff. Don't know much about the current intellectual scene though.
>>75020975
>yes the rich are in fact pushing for this.
Holy shit you actually admitted something true. I literally can hardly believe it.
>this is a commonly accepted fact in the alt-right.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! In what fucking universe? You worthless niggers always blame muh libruls for it. You spineless sacks of shit. I have literally watched in the last month as you've metamorphized into the republicans you actually are. You have done all the shit I've accused you of until recently. This month alone you've ostracized Shapiro for being a jew and only now BEGAN to claim that the rich are importing third worlders in mass. And even now, the MAJORITY of you here still claim it's libruls, not the rich importing the third worlders to depress wages, because you AGREE with the fucking traitorous rich. You WANT wages depressed too. That's your solution, in fact. You're fucking weak, spineless faggots. And now that you're receiving criticism from people you THOUGHT were your fanbase, you're caving and cowing just like any mainstream republican. You're even trying to claim that there are Socialist elements among you, when there totally are not.
>now? not much.
PFFFTT
>yet you vote for the people give the rich all their power and open the borders up for shitskins to come and depress wages?
I don't vote, nigger. That's your retarded assumption. The ballot box is long since done being effective because the rich have bought the government.
>what the fuck are you even talking about? how are banks supposed to hold the rich accountable?
I think you have reading comprehension problems. I asked you to prove me wrong and hold the rich accountable for something - which you failed to do except to (falsely) claim that the alt right blames them for immigration, which you so fucking do not. You always blame liberals for that. And I caveated that you couldn't single out the financial sector because that was too easy and since it's so jewish, you're more comfortable with it.
>>75021915
My point is that you seem to think anything remotely Right wing is "republicanism". It's not, and you're a fucking moron if you can't understand that.
Why bother writing more if you can't understand that?
The Alt-Right is basically paleo-conservatism for the younger generation. I see it as a mirror image to the left's social justice warriors, black lives matter, campus feminists. Unfortunately, the media, Hollywood and Academia are all Leftist. That means their vision is allowed to grow and their activism gets leeway. Alt-Right isn't allowed room for growth, so it retreats to dark corners of the internet. Maybe a Trump Presidency will change that and we'll see alt-right activism in real life. But with the media and academia against us, I doubt it.
>>75020975
>agriculture
>pharmaceuticals
>automotives
>transportation
>telecommunications
>the list goes on.
Well color me impressed. You actually said something intelligent and honest. Keep this up and one day you may part ways with the republicans - but I doubt it.
>they were never considered part of the movement you dense fuck
Yes they were you fucking nigger. Milo LITERALLY writes articles for the alt right. And Ben was as alt right as they come. You faggot weaklings just threw him under the bus because you were catching too much flak for worshipping kikes. No True Scotsman.
>but republicans are totally libertarian you guys
>Libertarians don't want corpoate subsidies
HAHAHAHAHA Libertarians are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. They can't even comprehend that if you remove all regulations from corporations, the corporations will just buy them back and put them right back in place. So yes, libertarians absolutely DO support corporate subsidies by eternally holding businesses blameless for their actions. Yet another "alt" right example of claiming one thing and doing the exact opposite. Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you all really are this retarded that you simply don't understand the consequences of your beliefs?
>>75021832
>I countered your assertion that AltRight was racist republicans
Saying something is countered isn't countering it.
>>75021899
>WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION FROM? ARE YOU DRUNK?
Which? That most christians support Israel? They do at least in America. That's what I was talking about.
>kikebart is not an alt-right publication.
Distance! Distance yourselves! DISTANCE!!! They're conservative.
>its an alt-right friendly conservative publication.
Oh precious fuck, excuse me, autismlord. God forbid I should get your indistinguishable non-movement confused with the mainstream one with a healthy helping of your retarded one anyway.
>>75010052
There are pro-social religions like Orthodox Christianity and Calvinism that create powerful and strong societies.
And there are anti-social religions like mainstream Catholicism and Ted Cruz-style Evangelical Christianity which do far more harm than good by ignoring race realism, disdaining scientific literacy and inhibiting rational thought.
Being Atheist is less good than being a member of a pro-social religion but still far better than being a member of an anti-social religion. Which is scarcely better than the cancer of the ideological left.
/pol/acks:
NATIONALIST LIBERTARIANS: Free market, social liberals and non-interventionists who are cultural conservatives. Classified by liberals as 'exploitation loving, labor and environment hating, big bank and corporation tyranny advocates'.
NATIONAL SOCIALISTS: Socialist/Third Positionist economically, socially conservative, differing views on foreign policy and very culturally conservative, with a greater focus on racial issues due to socialism's collectivist ideology. Classified by liberals as 'fascists', 'Nazis' and 'white supremacists'.
TRADITIONAL CONSERVATIVES/ PALEOCONSERVATIVES: Endorse a social market economy (capitalism with regulations, but not Third Way extreme), social conservatism, anti-imperialism but generally believe in pursuing national interests and the importance of defence/military spending and the principle of peace through strength. Very culturally conservative. Classified by liberals as 'reactionaries' and 'the white patriarchy'.
NON /pol/acks:
LIBERALS, COMMUNISTS, PROGRESSIVES, FABIANS, ANARCHISTS (although there is the odd Molyneux-loving an-cap here and there), MARXISTS, NEOCONSERVATIVES and MODERATES.
>>75023048
Oh, and by opposing social justice warriors, Alt-Right is largely about race (and gender) realism.
There may be respect for religion in the sense that elements of the alt-right advocate for hierarchy, order and tradition in society. See the contrast between the Sistine Chapel and whatever post-modern garbage passes for artwork these days. But it's a far cry from limp wristed evangelicals.
All this stuff about Milo and Shapiro is ridiculous. They're affiliated with Breitbart, which is an okay website, but it's too mainstream to be truly alt-right. Breitbart is the closest alt-right ideas can get to the mainstream. Alt-Right is people in their twenties and thirties resurrecting ideas from race realists, AmRen, paleo-conservatives, etc. and making them hip and fresh with memes.
If you want to know about Alt-Right and where it started, look into Mencius Moldbug and TheRightStuff.
>>75021899
>vdare
Kek. No. VDare has probably been around since before you were born. It's not alt right. It's racialist. You faggots have tried to lay claim to such movements, when they're not yours. What do niggers call this? Appropriation? Lel I've probably been reading VDare since before you were an adult (I'm not right wing at all of any kind).
>if anything Milo is becoming more popular you retard.
Not here. You're being called out daily for your love of faggots.
>shapiro was only moderately popular within the alt-right
More historical revisionism. You faggots couldn't suck that cut dick enough back in the day.
>>75021933
>Mencius Moldbug
Gross.
>>75022613
>My point is that you seem to think anything remotely Right wing is "republicanism"
No. The alt right is just a rebranding of the republican party with less morals and more open talk about what it really believes, which is just what the republican party is afraid to admit in public. You're literally just younger, louder republicans with millennial "morals" of faggotry and libertinism.
>>75023048
>The Alt-Right is basically paleo-conservatism for the younger generation. I see it as a mirror image to the left's social justice warriors
This is precisely what it is and it's just as annoying. The "alt" right has already outstayed its welcome. It's just getting annoying now. Literally nobody cares that you can't get laid and live in your parents' house, faggots. Shut up about it already. Christ.
>>75023648
>NATIONALIST LIBERTARIANS
Literally an oxymoron.
>NATIONAL SOCIALISTS
There are almost none of these on /pol/ because there are almost no actual Socialists on /pol/. Spamming Hitler and saying "I hate niggers" while literally worshipping capitalism don't make you a Socialist.
>NON /pol/acks
There is no such thing as a "non /pol/ack". This isn't fucking reddit. You don't get a safe space.
>>75008205
Literally nothing more than a bunch of faggots (in both senses) who wanted to be such special snowflakes that they decided they're gonna be right wing from now on.
But of course as it always goes, faggots absolutely fuck things up.
They want to be edgy but aren't brave enough to become a true edgelord and realize that any form of democracy and liberalism or just anything else counter to Traditionalism is pure cancer.
It is Right Wing - Light.
They may be good for the so called "normie" teenagers who are candidates for the red pill, so that later they may arrive at the truth through the way that the #altright started them on.
But ultimately it would be fatal for pol or any adults to sink down to the level of these people.
>>75023648
>Australia
>not shitposting
>posting content with actual substance
wat are u doin
