Can Fascism be used as a means to a white libertarian society?
Like in Marxist theory how the state is used to implement socialism and "withers away" into stateless communism
The right needs an ideological equivalent to Marxism where the end goal is a white stateless society
>>74998811
I don't see how you could possibly convince the majority of fascists of the superiority of libertarianism.
Or how you could even go from this shitfest to fascism, unless you group up and secede.
Any society that tolerates degeneracy eventually crumbles. Libertarians not only tolerate degeneracy, they celeberate it.
Figure it out.
>>75000380
All societies crumble, kraut. Periods of individualism have been historically marked by significant scientific and social progress.
>>75000564
>idiot claiming that we are in a period of extreme individualism incoming
>>74998811
Yes, we need a Pinochet-like leader to kill all the lefties before we can install a Libertarian society.
>>75000655
wat.
Care to back that up?
>>75000564
The greatest scientific progress was made by Nazi Germany.
Then Ameriburgers stole all the superior white scientist into their shithole and "surprise surprise", managed to land on the moon.
>>75000980
War is also pretty good for innovation, but it's usually not a lot of fun. Enjoying dat generational self-loathing?
>>75000782
There is usually some guy who laments the lack of collectivism in modern times which is just not true, was my point
>>74998811
Stupid anti-Logos. You can stop your rebellion any time.
>>74998811
You could use a generation or two of fascism to strengthen a society, and set a path for guidance, so that in its eventual prosperity, the central control shunts the inevitable turn to decadence into disciplined libertarianism. But look what a mess that is. What fascist crypteria gives up control? How do they sort out a decadent impulse from libertarian free-spiritedness? What is libertarian about adhering to an approved list of activities?
>>74998811
>we need para-Marxism
God damn it OP, you're stupider than a chicken pecking out nuclear launch codes, but you got me to respond.
Read Scruton's Fools, Frauds and Firebrands. We do not need equivalents of any leftist. Our side was always better and theirs is just shinier.
>>74998811
The Axis tried using fascism to revolt against the modern world, to fight against corporatism, communism, and central private bankers.
They lost.
Are you saying it could be done better, or were they just too soon?
By itself in principle Fascism can allow for a relatively free market and in a particular historical moment perhaps intervene very little in the economy, thus asymptotically approaching a miniarchistic state and allowing for the supposed benefits of the free market. I supposed a very homogeneous and rich white community is a pretty good base to reach this.
The ultimate principle to keep in mind is that authority is to be used for the good of the state, and so if the free market has some recognized benefits, it can be allowed partly or almost fully.
>>75002919
My ideal society is a white libertarian one
We can't get there with the current state of world
You could get there using Fascism as a vehicle
Fascists lost because of logistical errors, geographic disadvantages, and inferior numbers. Quality or ideology had nothing to do with it
>>75000380
America in 1950s had virtually no degeneracy and had the highest comparative standard of living in history
>>74998811
>88
Knowing that we have Herr Hitler's spiritual attention on this... I will comment in two ways. Firstly, please consult German bro (also included in this post). Lolbertarianism is a dead-end and, quite really, a conjured governance structure by Jews who believed in abject selfishness (cf. so called 'Objectivism').
Second, when I went to Lourdes, I was amazed at how powerful the nighttime torch procession is. There is something so strong, so real, and taps so many things metaphysically speaking to marching in unison at night chanting together. I imagine that pic related must have felt like heaven on earth to those so honored to have had these chances in Germany.
>>75000380
Well said Germany. Please give victory to the AfD.
>>75004743
it had no degeneracy but by tolerating it as a principle it made way for it, degeneracy didn't just force its way in through the state
