You can only post ITT if your country has put a man in space.
third country after Russia and USA to have it's national in space reporting in
sure it was soviets who got him up there but i guess i can still post ITT
>>74993889
We all fucked your mum, so effectively we have all been inside a super massive black hole.
>>74995392
Shut up Australia nobody cares about you. Go fuck some dingos or whatever is is your people do for fun.
>2016
>believing NASA
I seriously hope you guys dont do this.
>>74995392
Put a man in space? Your country barely has internet.
>>74993889
Not our rocket, but we were the third nation - does it still count?
>you'll never have a child born on the moon.
>>74995895
>implying soviets weren't monitoring every second of the moon landing.
>implying they wouldn't have jumped at the opportunity to expose the US at the first sign of shenanigans.
Stay cucked, friendo.
>>74996078
Yes, you count.
>>74993889
it wasnt my country that put him up there, but Nasa has some peruvian astronauts from around the 90's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_I._Noriega
>>74996217
You're also ok because your country produced men qualified enough to be picked.
There is no -space-
>>74996388
What the fuck are you even talking about?
>>74996469
All 'space' footage from all space agencies are fake.
My dad works for NASA but he mainly does computer stuff he never went in space.
>>74995895
>2016
>not accepting that the earth is flat and hollow.
>>74996632
Just in case you're not baiting, what do you imagine surrounds the earth? Soup?
>>74996469
Space is a Jewish conspiracy, all NASA money go to funding Israel. Trust me.
>>74993889
hello mein kamph
>>74993889
Portugal never launched a rats ass into space, but since my head is always drifting on the moon I will post here.
>>74996730
>Flat
>But hollow
I hope you're not one of those idiots that believes in the Y dimension.
>>74996469
Our world is contained inside a giant bowl.
>>74996746
americans believe this is real footage from the 'iss' (international scam station)
>>74997048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG0fTKAqZ5g
>>74997041
But what is outside of the bowl? O.o
>>74996873
>Lost a war to emus
>Literal prison colony
>Lives in the planets fetid puss and shit crusted anus
>thinks he can comment on my perception of reality
Wew m8
>>74997125
We don't know!
>>74995895
>falling to Soviet propaganda
>>74997125
Guac
America checking in, 1969 best year of my life.
>>74996469
>>74997111
And you believe it's fake because....
If a child were born on the moon, would they be an alien?
>>74997466
>what is POV and different lenses.
>>74997477
because it is obviously cgi, just like any other nasa/esa/jaxa/cnsa footage of earth.
give me a REAL photo of earth you fucking burger.
>inb4 the blue marble
>>74997817
You're a fucking idiot.
>>74997817
>this is your precious blue marble
explain
>>74997817
Ah yes, let's trust the basement dwelling NEET's expertise over that of actual scientists.
>>74997983
>this particular image (of dubious origins) is doctored, therefore, all images of the earth are doctored
How fucking stupid can you be?
>>74997955
You might be right about me, but it doesnt change the fact that there is not ONE real photo of earth from space
>>74997983
Similar conditions create similar cloud patterns?
Do you really think they'd skimp on their CGI so intensely?
>>74997817
Are you white? The only people who believe this garbage IRL have been Muslims. They believe white people are making this up to disprove their religion
>>74993889
Do Indians count?
They take up plenty of fucking space
>>74999661
What is that supposed to be?
>>74999845
lol this american doesnt know about dark knight, or black knight, whatever it is.
Alien monitoring satellite
>>75000305
I swear I've seen six different pictures that are supposed to be the Black Knight satellite, and every fucking one is of a different thing.
Can conspiracy theorists please get their shit in order before trying to present a point?
>>75000488
Starcraft 1 opening cinema when they finally explore it
Andre kuypers
Wubbo ockels
Hhhgggghn meesterras
>>74995392
Fucking kek
We gave you the Canadarm.
So we may shitpost in the cosmos.
You're welcome.
>>74999661
>>74999845
>>75000305
>>75000488
>>75000618
It's all space junk.
>>74997817
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>74998286
Oh come on, do you really think the second is claimed to be real you dumb cunt? It's obviously not since the US is so huge.
>>74993889
There was some space related stuff in the news here recently. Don't know whether we've put a man there.
>>75001771
ISRO got a thing to orbit mars.
And plans to send people to orbit eventually. You'd be the 4th after the USSR/Russia, USA and China to actually manage it (everyone else flew on US/Soviet/Russian rockets)
>>74993889
>put a man on the moon
>tfw worked on multiple experiments that have been sent to space and am now working on a satellite thats launched in 2017
>>74998498
>similar
they look identical
>>74997041
damn you musta smoked a giant bowl
>>75002116
Haha nice try gov shill. You never sent anything to space. Satellites do not exist.
>>74993889
Bring on the Germans then since Von Braun's crew did all the real work for both sides
>>75002287
Ignoring me are we?
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>75002152
>>74997983
That image is a literal mosaic or CGI, look at the colour, the seas are not that blue. It was probably never claimed to be real.
Pic related is an image taken all in one shot from near the Earth-Sun L1 lagrange point.
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>75002740
Please spare me with this lame attempt of a cgi.
Show me something REAL, that doesn't come from nasa. Oh wait
>>75001771
Not yet, but for a country that can't manage to shit in toilets you are pretty close.
>>74998286
I actually think the one on the right is a synthesized photo probably with false colour too, but bear in mind that if you're closer to the earth, you can get the impression that continents are relatively larger than if you're further from the earth, since the further away from a sphere(oid) you are the closer to 50% of the surface you can see.
>>75003079
>Please spare me with this lame attempt of a cgi.
Oh fuck off then you deluded muslim.
>>75003079
Yo dawg, you sound pretty jelly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Bagian
we in, bois
>>75003079
>Show me something REAL, that doesn't come from nasa.
ESA image from Rosetta flyby :^)
>>74997983
Look at google earth sometime - even in suburban areas you can see the same mosaic artefacting - basically it's just the sewing together of images that creates this effect - it's optimized to keep the land areas "intact" so the stitching algorithm or person has sacrificed integrity of the ocean clouds instead to keep the picture looking mostly right.
>>74996747
>Space is a Jewish conspiracy
This is why I love 4chan.
>>75003305
Come on man, does this look real to you?
>>75003305
Just watch, he will still come up with some BS reason to dismiss this.
the question OP fails to ask is if the earth spins why dont we fly off?
>>75003406
Yes. What the fuck else should it look like?
>>75001337
Canadarm, Canadarm2, DEXTER, and a bunch of other doodads on every NASA & ESA program.
Canada has the coolest spaceman
>>75002287
Why do you believe that it is impossible to travel into space? Tell me and I'll explain the maths to you.
>>74997983
The picture is compiled from multiple pictures. Of course there's overlap. Every "anomaly" you pointed out is more proof that it's a real photo.
>>75003409
Yes, it does. Look at this series from the same day.
>>75003419
1 revolution per day is incredibly slow, the centrifugal force at the earth's equator is 1% of the strength of gravity and declines proportional to the sin of your latitude to reach 0 at the poles.
>>75001489
God damn... they really need to clean that up.
Start zapping that shit with lasers.
>>75003465
Definitely not like a 10min ps job
>>75003174
look how big America is in the 2012 pic
LMAO
>>75003583
>>75003406
Meant to link to the dumb austrian
>>75003593
Make something that looks like this in PS from scratch, you have 10 minutes.
>>75003406
Austria's just butthurt because it has no accomplishments.
>>75003615
The 2012 one is NOT claimed to be a real image though, most of those in your dumbass flat earth image are shitty mosaics or CGI never claimed to be real images.
>>75003583
but why does it spin?
>>75002287
I'm actually a student at the university of central florida. I have work that has flown on blue origins rocket, two experiments that have been on the ISS (one just got sent up there, the other one returned just recently), and I personally have ran multiple experiments on multiple parabolic flights
>>75003765
>but why does it spin?
Angular momentum left over from when it formed + possibly early collisions of other objects such as the one theorised to have caused the moon to exist.
The earth's spin has actually slowed from taking 10 hours or so about 4 billion years ago to the time it takes today due to it exchanging angular momentum with the moon due to tidal effects (this caused the moon to slowly migrate into higher orbits, it used to be closer to us).
>>75003615
2007 is just recolored, 1997 is obviously an animation, and was never claimed to be a picture, 2012 was also never claimed as a NASA picture, but a rendering of Earth after global warming. The rest are just differences in clouds and post processing. No two of these are taken by the same satellite.
I work for NASA, your GPS wouldn't work without satellites.
>>75003761
what satellite took this image? this is out of range for earth's orbit
>>75003674
Keep posting nasa's fake images from 'space', more people should see them
WE MONKEY POWER NOW
Brazil planted beans on space
>>75004018
They're composites of multiple satellite images. That's the idea. If you took a picture from far enough away to get the whole Earth like that, you'd be spending way too much money for a really useless satellite.
>>75004026
Austria, post the real Earth then.
>>75004018
DSCOVR, it's not in earth orbit, it's in a complex orbit around Earth-Sun L1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Climate_Observatory
Useful because it always sees the sunlit side of the earth at all times.
>>75004026
These all look real to me, the tilt of the earth matches the seasons, the weather evolves slightly between images taken an hour apart.
>>75004126
No my images are not composites at all.
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>75004026
>space is fake lol satellites aren't in space
Please explain GPS to me
>>75004190
here, now you can make your own real pictures of earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moWp5vsJ8l4
>>74996388
>>74997048
>>74997111
>>74997466
>>74997817
>Spess isn't real
>The moonlandig is hoax
>7-11 was a part time job
>>75004399
That looks like obvious CG though, and EPIC takes 4-20 images daily now, and the weather all matches up. There are quite literally hundreds of images taken by it over the past 11 months.
>>75004126
so you're saying it's not a real image? just copy and pasted together in other words fabricated
>>75004190
the nasa guy said it's a bunch of composite images though
>>75004026
>Theory on rocket flight has been publicly available since the 1920s
>People are still saying it's impossible
This is what happens when you don't teach maths in schools America
>>75004625
if you put more time and effort into it i'm sure you can make it look super duper realistic! give it a shot. i'm looking forward to see how your earth turns out :)
personally I am pretty convinced the earth is flat. all I have to do is drive around.
you guise are bluepilled
>>75004677
He's wrong, and also not a NASA guy if you read his posts, the EPIC camera on DSCOVR takes full images, unlike most images of earth from low orbit which are composited because the sats are too close to see all of the earth in one shot. DSCOVER is 800,000 to a million miles away so doesn't have that problem.
Read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Climate_Observatory
>The Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC) takes images of the sunlit side of Earth for various Earth sciences purposes, in 10 different channels from ultraviolet to near infrared. Ozone and aerosol levels will be monitored, as well as cloud dynamics, properties of the land and vegetations.[23]
>EPIC has an aperture diameter of 30.5 cm (12.0 in), f 9.38, a FOV of 0.61° and an angular sampling resolution of 1.07 arcsec. Earth apparent diameter will vary from 0.45° to 0.53° full width. Exposure time for each of the 10 narrowband channels (317, 325, 340, 388, 443, 552, 680, 688, 764 and 779 nm) is about 40 ms, and the camera will produce 2048×2048 pixel images, but to increase number of downloadable images to 10 per hour the resolution will be averaged to 1024×1024 on board. The final resolution will be 25 km/pixel (16 mi/pixel).[23]
And look
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
This one is from 2 days ago
>>75004167
I don't have a pic, i never been to 'space' to take one, none of us have been.
We have to trust a government agency. Do you trust other gov factions, like the cia, nsa, fbi, the preznit?
Why would you blindly trust nasa?
Do you believe they never lied, about anything, ever?
>>75004817
You should see retards on jewtube who say rockets can't work is space because
>there's no air to push off of
Not even joking here.
>>75004958
Yes, NASA has a huge team making tens of faked images daily with no leaks ever, images that match the season and weather.
>>75005147
well, if you put it that way, yea... seems impossible!
>>75005074
What about the Soviet space programme? ESA? ISRO? JAXA? The Chinese? Even fucking North Korea managed to orbit a satellite. Are they also part of NASA?
>>75004366
ground based antennas, used as early as ww2 (LORAN, and the newer LORAN-C)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loran-C
>>75005251
oh no wait! you don't have to make fake images daily you can just take screens of your rotating model of earth!
>>75005307
link us to their images not NASA's
>>75005074
You have still not answered any of my questions
Why is it not possible for a rocket to travel into space
The Space Shuttle launches that everyone saw where did they go if not space?
Why are the Russians, Chinese, Indians, Europeans and Japanese all in on this?
There are seven other planets can you prove the images of Venus are fakes too?
>>74993889
>You can only post ITT if your country has put a man in space.
Switzerland reporting in. Putting people into space since 1943.
>>75005251
>>75005336
Do you really think every plane pilot ever is bribed into hiding the supposedly flat earth then? Because planes fly routes that only make sense on a spherical surface, arcs of great circles.
>>75005329
LORAN is nowhere near GPS accuracy and would break down in mountainous regions, which GPS does not.
Not to mention Galileo, GLONASS, the Indian regional one, the Chinese GPS nock off and so on.
>>75005417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1KWtG66lEQ
Here's JAXA's Kaguya seeing an "earth rise" in lunar orbit
>>75005147
I will be sympathetic to them because many schools do teach Newton's third law extremely badly.
>>75005329
Ah yes, those GPS-capable antennae. Didn't the allies use them in Normandy?
Oh wait you literally cannot run a GPS system from the ground.
>>75005484
i never said the earth is flat, but i know nasa is full of lying shits and no man has ever walked on the moon
>>75005074
You can build a sounding rocket as an amateur and get it up to the lower reaches of "space". Orbit's a bit harder, but just straight up and down's not too bad.
Go find a local rocketry club and get them to show you.
>>75005464
>switzerland
>space
>1943
u wot m8
>>75005609
The Soviets literally followed Apollo 11 with their own tracking stations anon. They would have no reason to not call out any fakery.
NASA has done shit things (the management ignoring safety issues and even ignoring engineering staff in their hubris to launch caused both shuttle disasters for example) but they're not faking stuff they did.
>>75005559
LMAO WHERE ARE THE STARS?
You can only respond to this post if your country put a man on the moon.
>>75005621
This. You can actually take pictures of Earth yourself with a sounding rocket or even balloon. Won't be the whole ball but you will get confirmation that the Earth is round and NASA pictures are real.
>>75005609
>NASA faked a 400 foot 3,000 ton rocket launch under the noses of their mortal enemies the Soviets
Ironically harder than actually going to the Moon.
>>75005744
you see, freemasons play on both sides. but i know this is too far out for you to comprehend.
usa good guys, soviet evil!
>>75005559
Are you baiting? Kaguya is viewing the earth in sunlight, the stars can't be seen for the same reason you don't see stars in daylight, the sun is pretty bright. Not to mention how light exposure works in a camera.
It would need to be out of direct sunlight and change the exposure levels to see the stars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy2L9Jti9Z4
>>75006038
Yes the masons also control the North Korean space program
>>75006042
Meant for >>75005884
>>75005911
You can't just change rules midway through the thread.
>>75005559
This is a different league of fakery. Please tell me you don't take shis shit for real
>>75005744
>but they're not faking stuff they did
easy to say when you've "misplaced" the footage
>>74993889
Yay, I'm part of the club.
>>75005744
I'm lmaoing at these conspiritards with you but damn Mars does look a lot like Arizona.
press f to build a wall
Hello m8s
>>75006159
They have tapes from other apollo missions though.
>>75006156
What looks fake in this? Explain fully.
>>75006254
Well Mars and Arizona are both vaguely red I guess.
>>75006473
i know. i'm a huge fan of Stanley Kubrick's work.
>>75005329
Still jelly. You may simply be retarded, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just jealous your country will never contribute to humanity's future in space.
>>75006730
Right anon, this unsourced image sure convinced me
>>75006896
The irony is Austria funds ESA, who are building the service module for the next US human rated spacecraft (well ignoring the private ones by SpaceX and Boeing)
>>75007026
Please no.
>Why spend money on fancy composites when we have all this spare plywood?
>>75006896
Stay mad burger, nasa's days are numbered.
As soon as you'll realise the moon landings could not have hapened, it will be easier to see that all space programs are fake.
>>75007368
>the moon landings could not have hapened
Why not? What about what happened defies physics? Remember in 1969 NASA was taking over 5% of the US federal budget.
>>75007368
Ok, you've finally convinced me, you are just retarded. I will disregard your words. Thank you for the clarification.
>>75007026
the photo is more real than anything you've posted
>>75005652
I believe he is referencing getting high on LSD, note the image he posted.
>>75007311
>>Why spend money on fancy composites when we have all this spare plywood?
What?
The European Service module is pretty cool actually, ESA is actually doing something human rated for once. It's derived from the ATV
>>75007607
That suit doesn't even look like the apollo suits anon, it's clearly a display or something. Are you trying to imply that's legitimate?
Seriously though, what happened to the astronauts who entered the Saturn V rocket (with the media watching) and didn't leave?
>>75007368
Anon the V2 was the first object to enter space in a test launch in 1944
>>75008010
I was implying that is the sort of decisions our austrian friend would make if he were in charge of budgeting the vehicle.
>>75008103
>>75008010
You are only repeating nasa's lies.
YOU don't know anything about what they do, except what THEY tell you and the photo-video 'evidence' THEY show you
>>75007607
>>75008010
And hell, if you claim the Saturn V was launched, why would they even bother faking the moon landing. The launcher is 90% of the cost of actually doing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJIY4n5oXjc
>>75008272
Ah makes sense kek, at least a nutter like him won't be any where the Orion designs.
I can't wait for the first SLS launch, there's been nothing so powerful since the Saturn V which was well before my lifetime.
Gotta love it as a rocket
>extended shuttle SRB
>4 shuttle main engines on the main stage
It's like the shuttle but without the shit part that got people killed (the orbiter being attached side on to the fuel tanks).
>>75008471
>You are only repeating nasa's lies.
NASA did not exist when the fucking Nazis lead by Von Braun got a V2 into space (sub orbital trajectory though).
>YOU don't know anything about what they do, except what THEY tell you and the photo-video 'evidence' THEY show you
Yeah and I also don't know that China exists except for the photo evidence either, so can I claim china is also a fake and conspiracy?
Kubrick faked the moon landings to hide our actual tech from being broadcast to the Russians.
And the Earth is round you fucking dimwits, go buy a 100 dollar telescope and look at other planets, or just look at the fucking moon. If everything else is a sphere why would Earth be flat or convex or whatever.
Seriously if you don't believe Earth is spherical you should be ashamed.
>>75008010
most Americans know the moon landing was faked but we don't care. it was a long time ago we've moved on. so I don't know why you need to shill so hard on the internet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqi5ckFr1Ow
>>75008741
gee i don't know what is cheaper to do: actually go to the moon or fake it in a studio?
>>74996112
I misread that as
>>you'll never have child porn on the moon
>>75008837
> I don't know why you need to shill so hard on the internet
I dislike people putting down human ingenuity and engineering skill
You think the best of the soviet military/government/space program couldn't work out that the moon landing was faked but some dumbass on jewtube can?
Also you can't fake low gravity with wires, it doesn't look the same.
And that doesn't explain the pendulum experiments that are clearly happening under 1/6 earth gravity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kojsfbN8ulc
>>75009034
So you claim the Saturn V launches didn't happen either?
You do realise the Saturn V was a vast majority of the cost of the moon landings right?
Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kojsfbN8ulc
>>75009364
Ah fuck, 2nd link should be this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw
>>75008741
>Yeah and I also don't know that China exists except for the photo evidence either, so can I claim china is also a fake and conspiracy?
You never ever saw the earth from space but i'm sure you saw at least 17 chinese people in your life
>>75009569
They claimed to be Chinese, but it's all a conspiracy against me.
>>75009364
oh poor baby. it hurts your soul to think your government might have lied to you. you're a big boy get over it.
but in that video i posted there's clearly wires right? he gets up magically with one pinky
of course Saturn V launched so people like you could have faith in your government
>>75009922
So the Moon landings were faked by doing the bit that made up 90% of the cost and 90% of the engineering challenge anyway so the fake looked real
Top fucking lel
>>75009922
Also the video shows no wires and his analysis is retarded (the video has been sped up by the uploader to make it look fake or something).
>>75010039
they have unlimited money. you assume the government to tell you everything including the "black budget"
Top fucking lel
>>75010355
Yes they faked the moon landing by doing the hard and costly bit and not doing the last 10%, this makes perfect sense and isn't fucking retarded.
>>75010467
>NASA sales receipts prove the moon landing
>>75010784
I just don't get how you can agree a Saturn V launched but we didn't land on the moon. It was perfectly possible to do with technology 50 fucking years ago, so why even bother faking it if you have to fake all the expensive design work and engineering anyway?
Thousands, hundreds of thousands of people were in the supply chains that built the rocket, spacecraft, lander, the suits, the food, the instruments, the engines, the cameras and so on.
Did the US government order all they needed to do a moon landing, then just not bother and fake it in a TV studio anyway? When they had all they needed to pull it off?
I mean the soviets would have done it too if their moon rocket hadn't blown up 4 times on launch. They had the Spacecraft (the Soyuz) and the landers were built (the LK), but the N1 was a piece of shit. Sometimes I wish they had because maybe muppets like you wouldn't exist.
>>75011258
tl;dr
my mind is made up already. i just want other ITT to see the moon landing was faked.
>>75011406
Whatever, go whack off to your delusional jewtube illuminerty videos
Representin'
>>75011465
go talk about how everything used to cost a nickel
>>75011681
>straw man
The Apollo landings cost a fucking fortune, NASAs budget was absolutely huge from 1965-1973 or so until Nixon slashed it right down after they cancelled Apollo. They'd planned Apollo 18 and 19 but those got canned.
>>75012100
let's try this: you are a young civilization on an earth like planet, with one moon and surrounding planets far away. you have just discovered space flight, do you:
a) send manned missions to your closest satellite, colonize it and see how that works
b) send manned missions to the moon and then plan to colonize some desert planet that isn't even closest to your homeworld without having any experience of colonizing objects in space
if you chose b you're an idiot! and we didn't do a because we've never been to the moon and the radiation belt makes manned missions impossible, that's why they are still trying to figure out effective radiation shieldings for their space crafts
>>75013745
Any plans to colonise mars are decades away.
>d the radiation belt makes manned missions impossible
Oh not this garbage again, the belts were passed through in a day and probably raised their cancer chances by 0.1% in their lifetimes or something. The apollo missions lasted under 2 weeks and the levels are not high enough to be a real problem, the real worry is mars missions being years long, radiation is a big problem with prolonged exposures.
>plan to colonize some desert planet that isn't even closest to your homeworld
Yes because Venus is possible to colonise with pressures like being miles under the sea at the surface, acid weather and 400 degree temperatures.
>>75014280
why make plans to colonize mars instead of learning from colonizing the moon first?
and how come the radiation belt is such a concern to nasa?
they talk about it at around the 3 minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyZqSWWKmHQ
>>75014648
>why make plans to colonize mars instead of learning from colonizing the moon first?
But the Russians are planning a moon base and NASA is planning maybe a mars landing that could be decades away?
Also do you think the Apollo craft had no shielding itself? It also had far less electronic systems which could be affected by radiation.
Orion is literally a larger apollo spacecraft, with more computers on board.
>>75015301
oh, because it had far less electronic systems that means they were save from the radiation? or did they not rely on the instruments because they were navigating with sextants? or was the shielding back then so much superior but they forgot how it worked and are now trying to figure out effective shielding?
i hope you know how illogical that sounds
face it, the landings were faked here on earth
that's why nasa deleted the original tapes of the greatest achievment of mankind
we have fake moon rocks
astronauts refuse to swear on the bible that they went to the moon
etc. etc.
they're lying to you and that should concern you
lmao thread full of delusional globa'alists
>>74993889
>>75016260
You're retarded, that video is for the general public and is talking about Orion's shielding.
Apollo had it too.
They're interested in developing better shielding because what we have is fine for a moon trip taking 10 days but not for a trip to mars taking 2 years or more.
>>75016961
i don't think you did your homework senpai
>>74997142
>American doesn't realise his country is practically a prison country
>>75017613
Then again
>lost a war to emus
So your opinion doesn't really matter, crocodile dundee.
