Would it take a catastrophic event such as an encounter with a hostile extraterrestrial force to finally bring world together?
Yes.
Uniting people is a simple us vs them survival idea.
Nothing says "Humans are brothers" as much as some spaceniggers coming to genocide us and strip us of all our resources.
>>74937232
Nah, why help a bunch of shitskins who want to exterminate us, I'll laugh my ass off as they vaporize everyone. All hail the moon nigger overlords.
>>74937232
Any species that could reach us through the vastness of space could also wipe us out without us even being aware of their existence.
Its a neckbeard fantasy to imagine that aliens would fight us on our terms. The reality is more likely that we would exist one moment and be gone the next at their will.
>>74937771
That would make a shit movie, GTFO
>>74937232
No. All the white countries would come together to take care of the problem.
Then like a year later society would go back to blaming white men for the world's problems.
>You didn't make the Aliens feel welcome, you xenophobe!
>Your microtransgressions caused those aliens to destroy countries and wipe out millions of people
>You see, the aliens were actually trying to free us from the evil white man!
>>74937232
only if we can get rid of Canadians too
>>74937771
>>74937232
No, in any major catastrophe, niggers revert back to their primal stages and begin looting, raping, fighting and then invade somewhere else.
Hurricane Katrina is one of many examples of this.
>>74937771
that seems like a bit of a leap. also think about colonial times, there were plenty of cases of primitive tribals beating advanced world powers because even though they had a lot of power its hard to project it that far
>>74938487
appropriate nippon frog silhouetting
>>74938385
this.
No because even then the libtard would sell out the human race, Dr Breen style.
Exo vaticana google it
>>74937771
>>74938046
>>74938487
Read the "The Road not taken"
It tells the story of how aliens have advanced travel tech. But serverly lack In weapons tech. While humans have been perfecting war for millennia. The aliens are akin to Humanities age of sail and their tech that allows them to travel through space was merely missed by Humanity.
The aliens come. Get rekt. Humanity wins and gets access to their tech and becomes the most powerful race in the galaxy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_Not_Taken_(short_story)
Technology is a divergent tree. Not a straight line.
>>74937771
This. There are so many ways a very advanced civilization could destroy lesser races it's hilarious. They could just secretely use a genetically engineered virus that affects only humans and wipe us out very quickly.
>>74939543
Wrong. Any race that can master space flight will be pacifists and docile and inexperienced in war
One nuke and they will run away
No, I'd sooner try to ally myself with alien scum than I'd lower myself to "cooperation" with shitskins.
Like ww2?
>>74939668
It's not like you would even get to use all those nukes because you wouldn't even know what hit you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwfly_Solution_%28Masters_of_Horror%29
This movie is pretty nice and shows one of the more elegant and realistic alien invasion techniques.
>>74939909
Nah I would ban any movie that is misanthropic and shows humans losing.
It should be a crime punishment by death to criticise humans
You are a traitor to humanity if you say we wouldn't win.
>>74940055
Or a realist. That doesn't mean I wouldn't fight back.
>>74940161
Still spreading enemy propaganda.
You think the allies said "the nazis are so strong we have no chance"
People like you need to be silenced and shot for the good of morale
>>74937449
TERMINATE ALL XENO SCUM
#NotAllAliens
>>74940242
You're baiting, right? The Nazis didn't commandeer starships that warped space and time. As it is, we don't have an extraterrestrial enemy and the invasion by one makes for an interesting film subject. Go to bed, little asspie.
Can we just entertain the hypothetical in the OP for a second instead of being fags over superior alien technology. Let's say the aliens live millions of years away and this is one of their explorer travel vessels. It's suited for long-distance travel through space, but not much for combat (just our fucking spacecraft). They have some defensive weaponry with them for exploring new, possibly hostile habitats, but they aren't fully decked out in warrior gear either.
They communicate with us somehow that they are a hostile force and want us to surrender - what do? I would personally tell them if they can exterminate all of the blacks, muslims, and jews, they would have our full cooperation. After the do the dirty work for me then we would destroy them.
>>74940242
The difference is that we are not actively at war with nazi aliens, nobody is going to watch the movie and move to space to join the martian jihad.
You can't ban ideas just because you don't like them.
>>74937232
>Would it take a catastrophic event such as an encounter with a hostile extraterrestrial force to finally bring world together?
We evangelion now.
though serious, there is a Seele
>>74940435
>Yess good Earthgoy, we will accept your "cooperation" after we exterminate all of those other races....we won't turn on you and exterminate you too, promissssssse....
Oh you fool, you.
>>74937771
>Its a neckbeard fantasy to imagine that aliens would fight us on our terms. The reality is more likely that we would exist one moment and be gone the next at their will.
Not necessarily, could be a ploy to unite us and develop.
They might use a false flag proxie to develop us.
In fact I'm certain they will do that. Because I get the feeling they have larger enemies and need our help.
>>74940495
>there is a Seele
What
>>74940587
This is a plausible scenario.
There's a couple of books that touch on this, but a recent one is Armada, by Ernest Cline.
Pretty decent, IMO.
>>74938859
>Technology is a divergent tree. Not a straight line.
Yeah but natural selection begs to differ.
It should be universal.
>>74940405
Doesn't matter. You have a quitters attitude.
I was taught you need to ignore your own defeats. Pretend they never happened. And highlight your victories against any enemy.
This is why I don't acknowledge the American Revolution
Go to hell pessimist surrender monkey
>>74940648
Someone's pushing the book of revelation. Too many coincidences, christians are panicking, but it's too coincidental.
Started after 2012.
Read the book anon. I was honestly spooked until I rewatched eva. Now I'm just pissed off.
>>74940675
>ignore defeats
Top kek you're like 12, and probably a shitskin.
Kill yourself
>>74940439
Yes you can. I'm a Muslim. We literally have erased thousands of cultures and ideas.
Get fucked
>>74940675
>Go to hell pessimist surrender monkey
You can be pessimist and still have the urge to fight.
Don't drag all of them in with cucks. They're just skeptics, not pussies.
>>74940668
Fuck off anti human
>>74940803
bait
>>74940745
Stay mad anti human
>>74940848
No because you don't have faith or belief in your ability to win. So you deliberately lose
>>74937232
Maybe you faggots but Balkans have score to settle.
>>74937232
Humanity will never be united under any circumstances. We will extinct divided.
>>74938859
>launch something at the planet at FTL speeds
game over for us
>>74940675
>This is why I don't acknowledge the American Revolution
How's that been working out for you? Any defeat can be a great learning experience and will serve to ensure future victories, should you choose to acknowledge and learn from said defeat. Trail and error is a fundamental stepping stone to humanity's progress and it involves failure, a lot of it. Scenarios where our species is overhwhelmed by an outside force could spark public discourse on how to prevent that outcome while also making for an entertaining film/video game/book/whatever. Did you also ignore the part where I said I would fight anyway?
>pessimist surrender monkey
I love you.
>>74940919
>I'm a Muslim. We literally have erased thousands of cultures and ideas.
>Get fucked
>calls me an anti-human when you mudslime faggots have been destroying everything Human since forever
Nah
>>74940315
Is me. I'm not an anti-Human. I'm a Fanatical Xenophobe.
You're the fucking traitor, you shitskin mudslime trash.
>>74940910
>oh no now my insult has no effect because it's true
Stay mad
>>74940675
You know, come to think of it: If you don't acknowledge the American Revolution, why are you replying to my posts? I don't exist, silly.
>>74941220
He's baiting
So many anti-humans on this thread, sad!
>>74941350
t. dod
nice proxy but your id sold you out
Just do What Lelouch did. Become the Ultimate asshole, and the world would unite against you.
>>74941443
W-What might you be talking about, friend?
H-Haha, lets share some A E S T H E T I C memes n shitpost xd
>>74940675
>I was taught you need to ignore your own defeats. Pretend they never happened. And highlight your victories against any enemy.
Take a fucking BJJ class and take your pride down about 20% there Mr.CrookedMouthCalcium.
>>74938710
What if the aliens themselves were an equivalent of a libtard? Far left Liberalism seems to infect the most developed countries, so I wouldn't doubt a highly advanced alien species falling into the trappings of it.
Imagine aliens discovering us but they don't nuke our planet instantly because hippies from their own planet want to take us in as refugees and their Xanadian Prime Minister says "If you vaporize the humans, they win"
>>74937232
Why would aliens attack us anyway?
>resources
Any civilisation capable of interstellar travel has already perfected asteroid mining.
>slaves
Why do you need humans when you can have robots, which are much cheaper to maintain and create? Also robots won't rebel (not talking about sentient machines).
Alien invasion is just a redneck fantasy. Deal with it.
>>74941926
An ideal habitable planet. They might not as abundant as some gaymes would like you to believe.
>>74940919
>No because you don't have faith or belief in your ability to win. So you deliberately lose
This thread is nothing but bait.
I'm done.
>>74937232
Not if extraterrestrial force was islamic.
>>74941926
If such an alien civilization exists, they'd probably try to colonize us in order to get more territory
>>74942054
What makes you think that aliens will be a carbon based lifeform? Maybe neptune is more habitable for them than earth. Even if earth is habitable for them, building a dyson swarm around their home star is much more efficient than fighting over a damaged planet with angry natives on the surface.
I for one welcome our new Alien friends.
I shall not confront the Alien as an enemy, but shall accept its mysteries as gifts to be cherished. Nor shall I crudely seek to peel the layers away like the skin from an onion. Instead I shall gather them together as the tree gathers the breeze. The wind shall blow and I shall bend. The sky shall open and I shall drink my fill.
>>74942387
I don't know, but it's a possibility considering that it's the only life we know of. How do you know that building any gargantuan size objects which would require immense resources to be transported to their system is more economically feasible for them than quickly and almost effortlessly exterminating arrogant retarded monkeys without even damaging the planet much?
>>74937771
isnt this based on the assumption that the xenos are borne of natural selection and didnt evolve on a world were the selection pressures are like ours..
its logical to assume they will be intelligent but thier capacity for violence may well be radically different based on thier evolutionary circumstances... it could also go the other way and we encounter a species like xenomorphs or predator or the krogan..
A collective hive type species could be logical too, like worker ants/bees if thier selection pressures forced them into deep co operation as a species....
Also possible due to co vergent evolution we meet a very physically similar looking alien species with somewhat radically different genetics.. see the tasmanian tiger ( marsupial ) and its physical simularity to canines.
Anything biologically speaking thats happened here could happen out there with tacted on intelligence..
imagine a world so harsh even a weak member of a species of bipedals that can run at 35mph jump 10ft high and has wasp like stingers on its appendages had to breed in the thousands to survive...
im not looking forward to meeting other species, physically we are outmatched on earth by almost all apex predators, sharks, felines, other mamals, apes etc...
Maybe we are the pinnacle in our galaxy thus far though, perhaps our world is harsher than most with life and the only thing out there are moderately peaceful by our standards blobs.
>>74937449
kinda like starship troopers?
>>74942735
the rocket equation.
Humans are heavy worlders. We are just below the gravitational threshold before conventional rocket travel is impossible.
Meaning we are the strongest space farers.
Any other species will either be far too slow and trapped on their high gravity world or far too weak due to low gravity and we could snap them like twigs
>>74940966
you're making that line of thinking as a human. Just because we would do that or be capable of that doesnt mean it works both ways.
>>74942589
>require immense resources to be transported to their system is more economically feasible
We have enough resources in our solar system alone to build a dyson swarm.
>>74937232
Something like that would unite the world, yes.
Humanity would reach the next step in our evolution.
>Implying most other alien civilizations didn't wipe themselves out already
We barely avoided nuclear annihilation, due to a few men making the right choices back in the Cold War, other species might have been less fortunate in their own conflicts.
>>74943170
nuclear war is not that bad
>>74937232
And then the next day we'd go back to bickering amongs ourselves. Unless the conflict would be eternal, humans would not unify.
>>74937232
>hostile extraterrestrial force
>we already have hostile illegal immigrants
>people are still divided whether we should help them or fight them
Not all xenos are hostiles.
They are good aliens, they din du nufin.
Interdimensional travel of peace.
"10 reasons why you should fuck an alien" - Buzzfeed
>>74938859
>Technology is a divergent tree. Not a straight line.
Technology is a self-reinforcing net. Insights in one area improve the ability to explore other areas. Technological fruit hang lower and lower as other areas develop, so while aliens might see no need to work on some things that interest humans, they'll know the basic principles that go into it. Due to the energy involved, any species capable of fast interstellar travel will know how to resurface a planet in a few minutes should they desire to, whether or not they specifically keep stocks of weapons for the purpose.
For perspective, F-22s can massacre F-15s with impunity, which can massacre the previous generation with impunity, which can massacre the previous generation, which can massacre the previous generation, all of which were less than a century apart. Similar considerations apply to electronic warfare, armor and anti-armor weapons, even naval ships and weapons. Physics suggests that there is a long way left to go in these areas before fundamental limits prevent further improvement, and there is no sign of slowing down. In fact, things like practical applications of nanotubes and military lasers suggest that changes are accelerating like most other areas of research.
So what do you think a civilization ten million years old would be capable of?
>>74937232
By "the world" you probably just mean westerners + slavs + developped chinks, 3 populations who, for starter, have no reasons to fight each other except misplaced ego. So it would take way less than an alien invasion to unite us. The rest of the world isn't relevant enough to do anything else than step aside and watch. Aliens sending an embassador to earth and asking to speak to the person in charge would be enough to unite us. Once you've got aliens speaking at the UN about literal overwordly matters, the towelheads and niggers little tantrums will look pathetic and civilized countries (or even aliens) will tell them to fuck off once and for good.
"Yeah well, fuck your welfare, Tyron, we got aliens to talk to"
>>74943709
Nothing because humans are the elder race and we are the most advanced species in the galaxy
>>74943776
>Aliens come to UN
>See the farce
>Mudslimes and niggers saying something about allah
>Ayyyy lmao
>Zap zap zap
>>74943709
>So what do you think a civilization ten million years old would be capable of?
what would ten million years of little to no selection pressure look like.
If humans get into space and become interstellar on a timescale similar to how we are intercontinental the local galaxy cluster will be fucking ravaged m8.
if we dont meet aliens within 2 centuries we will clearly be the galactic apex.
Personally i think thats the answer to the fermi paradox, we are the most advanced species, either that or they are watching right now and when we become an interstellar threat boom, no more sol.
>>74937232
No despite the saying common enemy isn't enough to make people stop hating each other and being dicks in general.
>>74937232
Even if this happened Muslims would still be impossible to wrangle in.
>>74937232
>liberals won't just make them the next dindunuffins
>>74937232
No, it would take extermination of all jews and muslims, niggers as well but as people in US can see, niggers are easily domesticated so we take their gibs away and either watch them riot and die or turn into productive members of society(Most likely wishful thinking on my part)
Oh, and we put niggers in africa in a zoo or in cages, otherwise treat them like animals when the aliens show up to show them that they are not part of our species but animals
>>74944035
kek, that would be awesome
>>74943917
Plausible, given that we can build spaceships now capable of crossing the galaxy in a million years or so. Since there aren't obvious signs of aliens everywhere, there are apparently no advanced aliens psychologically similar to humans.
>>74942844
I'M FROM BUENOS AIRES AND I SAY KILL 'EM ALL!
>>74942948
Couldn't a planet with much higher density of metal ores eventually cheaply build a space elevator?
>>74938859
>Technology is a divergent tree. Not a straight line
someone's been playing to much Civ
>>74944109
>little to no selection pressure
That's ten million years of self-directed artificial modification. We're going to have to deal with that ourselves in a few decades.
>>74944380
>tfw earth had a high density of metal ores near the surface
>tfw a douchbag planet crashed into earth and pushed all the shit near the center, while also forming the moon.
>>74944263
>implying we would be able to detect those signs even if they were
>>74937232
In theory, yes.
However you'd quickly hear "Quick we need to go communist"
>>74944490
fuk u moon
>>74944380
That's irrelevant. Space elevators are cheap when gravity is low and rotation is fast. Metals aren't strong enough for a space elevator on Earth, but they might work on Mars. No known material would work for Venus.
>>74944636
Space elevators are cheap when they're cheaper than rocket travel. That's the only criteria for expense once a species has prioritised space colonisation.
>>74944807
Why wouldn't they always be cheaper than rocket travel? Good luck making ropes for them though.
>>74944263
They're watching us and we don't know it.
>>74944517
The universe looks like what one might expect of gas and dust acting according to physics, without unusual intervention. There doesn't seem to be any large resource processing or energy use, which would visibly change how stars and galaxies look. You can, of course, posit that aliens would be silent, invisible, and otherwise undetectable, and they aren't doing anything noticeable for inscrutable reasons, but that's not a very useful position to consider.
>>74942844
>do ya wanna live forever
I love that friken movie
>>74945130
That's assuming that aliens are very advanced and want to manipulate the energy of the whole stars. What if they simply make relatively low-tech isolated colonies that don't alter their systems enough for us to detect them?
>>74944807
>>74944964
Space elevators are energetically cheaper than rockets once you have one built. The cost of building a space elevator depends on the planet's gravity and rotation, because that's what determines how strong and how big it has to be, and that may require exotic, expensive materials. Materials exist today which could be used to build a Martian space elevator at considerable expense. no existing materials could build a space elevator on Earth. Supposing that something strong enough is made for an Earth space elevator, a Mars space elevator made of the same material would be much lighter and cheaper than the Earth one.
>>74945130
or maybe there just complete sadistic arseholes
a la mars attacks
>>74945370
>What if
>>74944263
>no advanced aliens psychologically similar to humans
>>74937232
It would work.
But there could be a situation in which a country becomes so powerful that it can singlehandedly take over the entire planet and bring it into a world empire. Sort of like the colonial powers.
Hate to break it to you guys, but if ayy lmaos do exist, they will most likely look like pic related
If there is some sort of intelligent life out there, there is now way they will visit our shitty planet, which is the space equivalent of somalia, trying to talk to us peacefully. They will either avoid us and beam us up one by one to perform experiments on us like in some sort of a bad sci fi movie, or they will just geno
>>74945837
genocide us
>>74938385
Not to mention they'll start comparing aliens to poor oppressed pilgrims and syrian refugee children.
Friendly reminder going faster than light is impossible
Friendly reminder the nearest star going at near lightspeed would take 4 years to get to
Friendly reminder that you also have to slow down which is also near impossible
Friendly reminder we are alone and so are they
>>74946105
Whelp, if Muhammad says so, I guess we can shut down physics now. We have discovered everything.
>>74946105
>Friendly reminder going faster than light is impossible
prove it
>Friendly reminder that you also have to slow down which is also near impossible
there is always a way
>Friendly reminder we are alone and so are they
prove it
>>74946279
Because a kike said so :^) kikes are always trustworthy
Good goy! Listen to Einstein!
>>74942955
Isn't that pretty much the basis of ender's game?
We stole the bug energy tech they used for travel/production. Then used it to tears atoms apart.
>>74946460
i forgot how boring this board was
okay i'll leave you to your kike memes
>>74946239
>>74946279
>>74946460
flat earth niggers
>>74946587
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws
>>74946279
>Friendly reminder we are alone and so are they
>prove it
?
Reagan thought so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD2186Yh0Uc
>>74946698
nothing hard to understand there.
>>74945837
>they will most likely look like pic related
>exoskeleton AND endoskeleton (tetrapod forelimbs lol)
>eyes that glow, rendering them useless for seeing
>bunch of fragile spikes, not enough for effective defense, not in the right places for effective offense, but enough to get caught on things and shelter parasites
>hanging around an active volcano, instead of some place with food, mates, or shelter
Zerg were designed to look cool and intimidating to humans, not as plausible aliens. Have a look at the Cambrian explosion if you want a better idea for that.
>>74946587
Wrong, Kuffar.
>>74937232
Like Ozymandias from Watchmen.
>>74942562
Based Alpha Centari
>>74946541
Humans learned gravity control from the bug asteroid base they captured. Molecular disrupters were a human invention that the bugs lacked.
>>74937232
nope, would take wide spread genocide
only a world without divide can be unified that stands for religieon, race, ethnicity, culture
>>74946789
How can they both be alone?
>>74947023
stranded on their own planet forever, he meant
and i asked: prove it
wew. this board
>>74946105
>Friendly reminder going faster than light is impossible
It was also previously said that bending light was impossible.
>>74947170
Triggered.
>>74947446
>>74942735
Look. We know that higher intelligence as an emergent faculty recquires high levels of calorie consumption. That's just fact.
Organisms are little factories that transform energy into bodily function, movement and thought. A big factory will need the stored energy of many small factories who ultimately take it from the sun. Chlorophyll is very good at that and yet plants aren't very energetic beings.
Predation is a logical conclusion. All species we consider intelligent to some extent are predators to some extent. The great apes including humans, dolphins and orcas, whales, the kea parrot. Even wierd animals like the cuttlefish. That requires at least an ability for aggression.
But think about the energy required now to move macroscopic objects at fractions of the speed of light. Which would be necessary for space travel at least. Well if you accelerate something the size of a mere schoolbus at a significant fraction of the speed of light, it would do unspeakable damages if it were to collide with a solid object. The energy released would be immense. It's kind of like a relativistic bomb.
Some have speculated that the great silence in space is actually just all intelligent species recognizing the fact that it's too dangerous to be detected by an aggressive space faring species. So they find a way to stop communicating outward or they mask their communications somehow.
>>74937449
IN HIS NAME
>>74947310
Forgive him he thinks he knows what he is saying but has it mixed up. He means anything with mass cannot go faster than light, which of course is true. There are ways around this to be sure, it's rather dolt headed to think the best way to get around the Galaxy is by making a really fast rocket lol.
>>74937232
Yes, then it would be funny to watch whatever humans that do not submit to aliens get their ass wiped out of existence. Then I will chanter, "Good Riddance!"
>>74937232
Dont worry we never bring the world together on any circonstance..
>>74947310
>It was also previously said that bending light was impossible.
Who has said this, ever? Lenses and mirrors have been known since antiquity.
>>74947505
>if you accelerate something the size of a mere schoolbus at a significant fraction of the speed of light
This looks like a job for a Time Lord.
>mfw there's a possibility that we're known as the fucking psychopaths of the galaxy and the peaceful aliens they are shitting themselves at the idea that we're getting closer and closer to explore the stars
>>74949804
>Red Alert
>Sol Quaratine is breached
>"fucking Skander Pirates again"
>"sir, it's an internal breach...they have perfected their rocketry, it's from Earth"
>"CODE RED I WANT AN EVACUATION OF ALL COLONIES WITHIN 100 LYs of SOL, ACTIVATE THE DARK MATTER SHROUDS, HIDE AS MANY STAR SYSTEMS AS YOU CAN"
>>74950456
Hehehe, not bad.
>relativistic speed projectiles meme
Do you guys realize it's not just
>fire space rocket at earth
>earth goes boom
The galaxy, the solar system and the Earth itself is constantly moving, there are a bunch of shit out in space which could accidentally collide into it knocking it off course, have enough mass to alter the course by gravity or just simply destroy the projectile. The farther away they are the more complicated it gets. It's like trying to shot through a coin from miles away, with varying weather every few hundred meters.
>>74947640
>>74950456
KEK
>>74937449
Gundam 00.
If we assume that other species evolved along the same lines as us and started using combustion engines that eventual lead to space flight we would be bigger and stronger.
>96% of our current weight used for space flight is by fuel.
so if our planet had a 4% denser gravity space flight would of been mathematically impossible with our combustion engines
>we are a heavy world species. we are use to higher gravity and would be bigger and stronger than almost any other race that achieves space flight.
>>74937232
>Would it take a catastrophic event such as an encounter with a hostile extraterrestrial force to finally bring world together?
Maybe. But soon as we kicked their little green asses we'd be back at each others throats. Humans fight. It's in our nature and if it ever changes we will no longer be humans.
