Is he right? Do we not need fast Internet?
For reference:
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/pyne-says-australians-dont-need-fast-internet/ar-BBtnSVz?li=AAgfLCP
>from link
Liberal minister Christopher Pyne has defended his party's globally obsolete National Broadband Network saying Australians don't need fast internet.
The Minister for Innovation, Science and Industry faced fierce criticism of the NBN, which will produce some of the slowest internet speeds in the world, when he appeared on Q&A last night.
Australia is currently ranked 44th in the world for its connection speeds, below Ireland, Latvia and the Czech Republic.
In 2013, Labor's NBN promised download speeds of 1Gbps through an innovative fibre optics network linked directly to people's homes, on par with international standards.
However, the Coalition's version which won't be completed until 2020 and will only provide download speeds of 25Mbps, well below the global average.
Speaking in defence of the NBN, Mr Pyne said: "(Australians) simply didn't need the speeds that Labor was promising."
"You will be able to watch five full-length movies in the same household if you all want to at the same time.
"Which is a lot of movies. That's a lot of televisions."
His comments come after a series of AFP raids over leaked documents revealed cost blowouts for the Coalition's network.
The leaked documents highlighted the $800 million Optus network was "not fully fit for purpose" and could require more than 470,000 premises to be reconnected.
Labor shadow infrastructure and transport spokesman Anthony Albanese said "the NBN isn't about movies, it's about our economy and how it functions".
"Malcolm Turnbull's fraud-band is double the cost" and "half the speed of what he said it would be. And the delay is extraordinary," he said.
The coalition has also been criticised for pledging to use antiquated copper wiring to support the NBN.
>>74934440
We need to be comparable with our trading partners. My biggest issue is with the lack of persistent upload speeds in a hfc/vdsl/whatever the fuck. Asynchronous uploads are the killer
>>74934440
NBN is literally not needed for private residences
If you disagree, fuck off, you don't need to download your cuck porn any faster you fucking nerd.
If fast internet is so vital to you move out of your mum's basement in the suburbs and move into a place you know has great internet speeds, there are already plenty of developments in every major city that has world class internet speeds. It is not the government's responsibility to shell out for your cuck porn habits and Australia's porn and pirating addiction.
>>74935862
>>74935979
I completely agree.
![292537-99720ec4-019e-11e4-9138-9da47e60188f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EaCi3zg.jpg "292537-99720ec4-019e-11e4-9138-9da47e60188f[1].jpg")
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>>74936097
good post
>>74936097
Hi Friendlyjordies! Give me a shoutout in your next vid pls
>http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-24/pauline-hanson-a-realistic-chance-of-returning-to-canberra/7440944
IT'S
HAPPENING
>>74936181
She'll be lucky to pick up a senate seat. There are too many right wing 'xenophobic' meme parties to solidify a presence in Government. It's like lobsters in a pot.
>>74936181
Why is she running in Qld? Yes, I know she has roots there, but so does Katter and Palmer, and they'll be fighting for similar votes
>>74936363
>Palmer
Irrelevant. Him and his party are dead.
>Katter
They never do well in Senate voting, so there's not much competition there.
>>74936443
Eh, neither of them are that strong I'll grant you, but they'll probably get 1-2% each. That's enough to tip it for the last senate seat
>>74934440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORmCk6OEOn4
Here's a video of it absolutely rage inducing
>>74936500
Palmer is completely gone.
I hate Melbourne lads. Where should I move?
>>74936979
Tasmania.
>>74934440
>>74936937
Palmer is gone, Party is still there, as is Lazarus
>>74935862
>private residences don't need ADSL, dial-up is fine!
This is what you sound like. I dong think you realise how shit our internet is absolute shit.
There's also no middle group with speeds, we either stay on copper with a max of ~20mbps or upgrade to fiber with speeds of 1000mbps+.
Fiber is better in literally every way and will save shit loads of money in the long run
>>74937135
kek
>>74937273
Then why isn't private sector building it
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/23/victoria-to-become-first-government-to-apologise-for-gay-convictions
Have >we finally jumped the shark, lads?
>>74937314
No one can cover the costs.
If we had dirt roads everywhere do you think the private sector could afford to build sealed roads everywhere?
>>74934440
PAY FOR YOUR FAST INTERNET YOURSELF YOU LAZY CUNTS
>>74937363
Not yet, we'll jump the shark if/when Labor wins the election. As of now, it's just Melbourne being >Melbourne
>>74937363
>Cucktoria
>>74937409
>tfw actually asked telstra once if there was any way to pay for better upload speeds on cable
>>74937403
But roads have a long term purpose
>>74936097
pic looks like a typical labor voter.
>>74934791
This is always the consequences of liberal ideology. You get people telling you what you want or need.
I CANT EVEN UPLOAD PICTURES
FUCK EVERYTHING
>>74937577
Yeah I'm sure this "internet" fad will die out in the next couple of years and serve no long term purpose.
>>74937577
So does the internet. The fiber network will last much longer than the copper one.
>>74936979
sydney is slightly less bad.
>>74934440
You can watch 5 full length movies at the same time in one house. What else do you want? Gay marriage, NBN and all that shit are red herrings. Real issue is still immigration and we know that typical Labor would ruin that spectacularly as they did under Rudd-Gillard-Rudd. Coalition are projected to get us back to a surplus by 2021, which is 5 years away and will save you having to pay of the debt through your tax in the future.
>hate all parties
I guess it's a 'vote for who you hate the least' election... which in this case could be labor.
Of course I'll be putting them behind every small party and be voting for the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party first.
>>74936979
You should move Apex and the rest of the immigrants, and put them into the sea
>>74934440
Im confused. Who exactly is he preaching to when he says things like this? Im Australian and everyone I know is desperate for faster internet.
The only time Ive ever seen anyone say anything anti internet was an old lady I was serving at woolies who worked for the local council.
>>74937643
>>74937660
And I'm sure there'll be no new developments whatsoever that make fiber defunct
>>74937577
The lifetime of good quality fibre could be centuries. I'm not saying it would be but could be.
I voted (single-issue) for NBN. But I've come to realise that Australian society is simply too retarded to implement it, no matter how much money is thrown. Money isn't the problem. Labor threw 38 billion at a mass of "capitalist" bureaucrat farts who sat around for 10 years drinking designer coffee and awarding themselves payrises. There was no vertical capacity build, no utility planning, just
The old collective mentality is gone in Australia and can't be brought back. Further awards of contract, etc is going to get gamed like the F35. If the government tried to do it internally bureaucrats would nowadays take over the role of self-entitling icecream-cash-ingesters and the result would be equivalent.
I'd probably vote for NBN again, my need is too strong. But it won't happen. Woe, woe, to the stupid country.
>>74938119
You know Greens are the only major party that don't want to sell it as soon as it's profitable anyway?
>>74937866
>implying Libs wont still tax you out the ass for whatever feel good measure they use as an excuse to money launder that week
Fuck all of them, vote LDP
>>74934440
>th-the government should decide what internet speed I do and don't need
Jesus christ, even if you're a Liberal voter it's still ok to admit sometimes the party is wrong.
>>74934440
Shitty internet means we aren't competitive on the fastest growing and already most important market/platform in the world.
It's a no brainer, why are we even discussing this. Fucking liberals.
>>74938239
So who should decide?
>>74936979
Brisbane or SE Qld
>>74938283
Labor had six years and what'd they accomplish?
>>74937866
>Coalition are projected to get us back to a surplus by 2021
We're never going back to surplus, even the Libs think we're a fucking money tree now.
>>74938014
>And I'm sure there'll be no new developments whatsoever that make fiber defunct
It'll be a very long time (think 100+ years) before something with more bandwidth than light is viable as a replacement
Though if you believe ALP or the Greens we'll be under 30 metres of water before then
>>74938163
this, senpai
>muh guns
>tfw FTTH NBN
feels good mang
h-hi
>>74938306
>only began it's implementation in the second term
>implying that a nation-spanning project like the NBN is going to take only a few measly years in a country the size of Australia
They achieved a sufficient amount. Don't kid yourself otherwise.
>>74938416
I know this feel
>>74937866
>Coalition are projected to get us back to a surplus by 2021
>>74937612
He's a member of our conservative party, who are ironically called the liberal party
>>74937612
>the American "definition" of liberal again.
Get out.
>>74936785
hahah this cunt gives the best bants
i actually agree though, why would anyone actually need that internet speed in their houses? what kind of bullshit do people do that requires it?
>>74938498
It's not ironic. That's what a real liberal is. Classic Liberalism. It's only in the US that they for some retarded reason tag it onto social progressives.
>>74936979
IMO Australian cities:
Top cuck tier: Melbourne
Cuck tier: Sydney
Below average cuck depending on area: Brisbane
Cuck resistance tier: Adelaide
Anti cuck god tier: Perth, anywhere that's rural and not aboriginal
Abo tier: Darwin
>>74938144
Shame they're insane on most things
come on sign it and help the austria bros
https://www.openpetition.eu/at/petition/online/neuwahlen-sofort-oesterreich-braucht-eine-neue-regierung
>>74938498
>liberals
>conservative
they lean to the right economically but they're not conservatives
>>74938616
problem is I think Daniel Andrews is aiming for federal politics and the Prime Ministership then we're all fucked.
>>74938631
>MUH GUNS
>>74938571
>I can't see how it could be useful with my tunnel vision worldview
>that means nobody have it.
>>74938616
Westies always have the biggest insecurity complexes
>>74938425
what do you want cunt? go back to your room
Right now he can only shitpost on dial-up which is not efficient shitposting at all
>>74934440
They clearly want more shitposting, meme magic and psyops by Australians on forums and such.
>>74938706
No, they can have it if they want to pay for it
>tfw 30kb/s upload speed
Just fucking kill me now
>>74938571
>what kind of bullshit do people do that requires it?
torrenting my Blacked site rips
>>74938706
well tell me cunt
answer my question
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>>74938747
But we are paying for it. That's what the NBN is, the government creating a modern internet system and paying for it. How thick are you?
>>74938720
kinda hoping someone in here is QT :/ im in my room listening to the rain on the roof
>>74934440
I have my appointment with the NBN installer next week. FTTP.
I've got mine so you can all go get fucked. I'm voting Liberal.
>>74938711
We're funding the eastern states. Do you realise how rapid the economic fall would be for Australia if W.A. succeeded?
Only thing the east has going for it is scenery.
>>74938631
I know this is b8, but who literally gives a fuck about airsoft when you can own actual firearms (sans semi-auto rifles/automatic) yourself?
Is applying for a licence + having a legitimate reason for owning one too much for some people?
>>74938807
Except if it's paid for by everyone, it's built to the expectations of the average person. You're wanting someone above the demands of the average person, and we're saying if you want that you'll have to pay. How thick are you?
>>74938791
Turnbull getting on Trump's 'nickname your opponent for political gain' bandwagon.
I like it.
>>74938813
>listening to the rain on the roof
They are a great band m80. Love their catalogue.
>>74938973
I dunno if Turncoat should really be giving others derogatory nicknames.
>>74936785
5 movies! That sounds tremendous!
And that will take at least 4 more years.
Your politicians certainly do plan for the future and have your best interests at heart. God love 'em.
>>74939035
Probably not, but I'd rather him than Billy-Boob Shorten desu.
>>74938889
>You're wanting someone above the demands of the average person
Everybody I've met under the age of 60 approves of the NBN and everyone under the age of 50 wants faster internet. While this is anecdotal evidence, the honest belief by you that " You're wanting someone above the demands of the average person" is purely a fairytale you tell yourself at night.
Also what is it with the liberals. So often I hear them screaming about "eqaulity of opportunity, not equality of outcome" and then proceeds to tear down that same belief by gutting systems which can only be funded by a collective effort FOR that equality of opportunity. The NBN is that exact scenario.
Having it funded by everyone for everyone is equitable. Just because you can't see a use for a real internet network in Australia doesn't mean the rest of us should suffer for it. Tunnel vision.
>>74939071
>5 movies!
I bet they are all 700mb files too.
These dumb cunts can't understand that in the future movie files are going to be 10x bigger so you will end up only being able to watch half of one, buffering all the way, not five.
>>74938144
The government has signed brain-dead legislation making it illegal for them to own profitable competing entities. This can be got around with by mandating their parastatals to be nonprofit, but:
IMHO there's simply too much moral debasement in society now for nonprofits to function properly. Management inevitably decides it owns the place and destroys it with diversity recruiting, internal boondoggles, empire building, cronyism, etc. etc. You can see this happening to Australia post right now. Among other things I blame multiculturalism. No wogs should have been allowed in after 1945. Every increment in diversity brings a corresponding decrement in societal intelligence.
>paid shills on /pol/ for the next month
I'm actually a little scared that Labor will win, even with the Liberals and Greens playing dirty.
>>74939285
Why? What is to be afraid of?
>>74939144
You fully admit annecdotal evidence, when there ARE polls.
Go look up the essential research polls, or the ones crickey pollbludger links to every few weeks. There are polls done on whether voters prioritise faster internet, smaller deficits, less taxes, lower spending, etc etc, and the NBN simply isn't highest priority.
Demand for it exists, yes. But because it's soft demand it will not be built to the desire of a heavy internet user. It will be built to the standard demanded by the swinging voter in the swinging electorate.
no one in this thread can even say what they need faster internet for
pathetic lads
>>74939285
>all opinions that differ from my own must be from paid shills
Grow up retard.
>>74939364
I am a shill
Post 'em
>>74936979
south coast of nsw if ya have enough cash
>>74939358
m8 you need faster internet for the same reason you need a faster PC with more memory.
Because as time goes on things get bigger and have bigger requirements. Cunts like you with your stupid attitude would have us all on dial-up still.
>>74939322
>and the NBN simply isn't highest priority.
The thing about being humans is that we don't have to do only one thing. There is the easy ability to do all of those things and there's nothing stopping it from happening. Just do it all?
>But because it's soft demand it will not be built to the desire of a heavy internet user. It will be built to the standard demanded by the swinging voter in the swinging electorate.
I don't see how this is relevant.
>>74939401
No fucking way.
>>74939313
Cringe-worthy Bill making apologies on a weekly basis, billions spent on unnecessary shit, further regulations on small businesses like those that have fucked my family in the past, more brownoes flooding in, more taxes etc.
>>74939364
Being a regular on here for years I can pinpoint the language change going into elections, it's very obvious who's a regular and who has drifted in. At the last federal election there was certain key lines being slipped into posts over and over and links to propoganda sites which were funded by parties. There is shills on here.
>>74939445
are you from south coast of nsw? that's where i grew up
>>74939470
why would i need a faster pc with more memory? to watch more cuck porn?
>>74939475
Because literally our entire conversation has been about you wanting faster internet speeds than the average voter
>>74939577
>There is shills on here
Do you think they are paid m8 or do they do it for free?
There is that guy who always shills for ALA.
>>74938571
Have you worked as a contractor that needs to transfer files gigabytes per day? What's really sad is that many businesses are stuck with a shitty ADSL connection and site-to-site file transfers, or synching large projects is a pain the fucking arse.
>>74939536
It took like 2 minutes to upload that picture, kek.
>>74939470
I thought you people hate the idea of endless growth
>>74939689
Are you on the NBN?
>>74939614
>why would i need a faster pc with more memory?
m8 because if you don't upgrade there will come a day when you can't even run an operating system on it, let alone HD cuck porn.
We need to prepare for the future. And the internet is a big part of the future. Economically, socially.
>>74939698
>you people
There is no need for antisemitism here m8. We are all aussies.
>>74935862 #
>>74935979 #
Virtual reality says otherwise. Theres going to be VR live conference apps, VR gaming, VR live concerts, VR internet. VR is a new medium like the television which will revolutionise the world, it will be like the smart phone. Youre going to be exploring the internet by VR, and VR requires 120 fps 24k by 24k resolution, then theres additional data like HDR, positional tracking, physics etc. Internet speeds will,limit the creation of important VR apps
>>74939689
fucking canberra only has nbn in north side and im stuck in shitty 1950s southside
>>74939636
>ALA
He definitely does it for free.
>>74939619
Well I can't offer any evidence other than anecdotal evidence, but my internet speed desires are lower than a great many I know, I'm rather modest on such Issues.
>>74939814
O great
>>74939814
cool nerd if you want vr so bad how about you call up your isp and pay them the costs of installation of fibre to your house in your fucking area like a non-bootlicking-cuck would do instead of expecting the government to pay for it for you.
>>74939862
kek what suburb lad
Th-thanks Howard
>>74939997
You realise a nationwide fibre rollout is inevitable right? Copper is not and never will be future proof.
>>74934440
>Is he right? Do we not need fast Internet?
I don't even
What the fuck liberals, you are scum.
Vote one nation or any nationalist party.
>>74935862
>>74936073
You fucking pair of dick clowns.
>>74936443
>>74936363
Palmer said he's not running anymore..
http://www.baka.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-2016-clive-palmers-political-career-appears-over-as-he-rules-out-senate-bid-20160523-gp1d0y.html
>>74940173
Palmer did pretty well to get elected to the lower house once. It is very hard to do for an indy or minor party.
He was a real big disappointment though.
>>74940170
Not an argument
>>74938616
>Anti cuck god tier: Perth
ahh. It's deteriorating fast due to new waves of niggers.
>>74938711
OI CUNT
YOU EASTIES ARE BITCHES
SECESSION NOW
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>74939997
Copper unlike optical fibre has a relatively short life and high maintenance costs. Even the government admits that FTTP will eventually be built. We are just delayijg the inevitable. We might aswell get it over with
>Still have to wait 1 month before fibre.
>>74936979
My family and I moved to the NT to get away from this modern progressive shit.
Been good so far. Moved from WA though.
>>74940449
You must be pretty constipated then m8.
>>74939536
Foreigners have no idea of the day-to-day horror
Yes, that is my home internet, one user, 10 seconds ago, given its prime time sometimes get speeds twice that.
>>74940469
>LET'S GO LIVE AMONG COONS, WHADDYA SAY KIDS!?
>TH-THANKS DAD
>>74940503
>Vividwireless
Sounds like that may be your major problem m8.
How bad is your internet straya? I pay $50 for this a month.
NBN feels good senpai
works like a charm
>>74940598
I'm on wifi so it's capped at 54mb
>>74940598
Here is one from just now. A bit better.
>>74940598
That would cost around $100 - $110 AUD a month. It's abysmal and there are so many old people and backwards cunts who don't think we need to do anything about it because they don't know any different.
>>74940598
$100AUD for mine
>>74940707
about the same as my WiFi.
>>74940555
They suck but tbqh I"m just glad I can get anything fampai
>>74940704
>not having a 100/40 plan.
>>74938571
1 in 5 cs games, some cunt says "fuck, my sister's watching netflix", and his ping jumps to 200. We need to stay up to speed with the rest of the world, saying "why do we need fast internet" is like how african societies say "we don't need fancy civilisations, just have 7 kids a couple and 2 will survive". You're rejecting advancement because you don't see why it's necessary. Of course it's not necessary, just like how going to the moon wasn't necessary. Does that mean that you shouldn't do it?
If it in any way betters our society, why not do it? If this article is true, and labor's plan will be cheaper, then why not do it? (Regardless of your opinion on whether or not you need it, if it's cheaper, that means less taxes being wasted on something over expensive)
goml
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5337793207
>>74940731
>>74940748
Honestly doesn't seem to bad. I would pay $100 for that. Before this company bought out the shitty monopoly here this is what I used to have. I live in a small farming town.
>>74940795
o yeah let's spend billions of dollars so nerds can play counterstrike without getting interrupted by their sisters streaming from BLACKEd.com
>>74939401
Internet is slow tonight...
Google Fiber coming through.
Jealous, faggots?
>>74940937
m8 you need a lighter touch with your tone. You need more banter and less angry sperging.
>>74938014
You obviously know nothing. To upgrade fiber, you only have to change what's on the ends of the cable.
89 bucks a month fuck yea rural boiz
>>74941012
Nah, I'm fine with dial-up speeds desu.
>>74939401 (Me)
Australians on suicide watch
>>74938416
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCKING HFC IN FUCKING 2017 FUCKING HELL FUCK YOU
>>74941079
>lack of cunts
you using a proxy?
![5350074907[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TjmHmmm.png "5350074907[1].png")
kek tier
suppose to be 40 up the fags
>>74941295
What do you expect with a dodgy no-name ISP m8?
>>74941339
that's not the ISP, it's wholesale so unlisted
regardless it's better than telstra and the other shitstains
>>74940937
lnp is the one spending billions on a piece of shit. You're acting like the niggers in Africa who don't advance their society because "it's for nerds haha"
They're a shit party anyway, they don't even stop the boats.
Just imagine if Straya gets better internet. The bogans will be shitposting as lightspeed.
>>74941387
>it's wholesale so unlisted
What does that mean m8?
>>74941414
Fill the tubes full of cunt
>>74940503
I am so sorry mate. Like genuinly. I remember the times when I had 256 kbs of speed and it was pure horror incarnate. Luckily enough I was too young to remember dial-up.
fucking Kevin Rudd when is tamworth getting the NBN
>>74940598
95/37 Up/Down | 4ms
In Suburbia. One hour away from Sydney
>>74941519
go and feed your cattle cunt
>>74934440
>Is he right? Do we not need fast Internet?
he is correct.
all the startups being pandered too want reduced taxes, reduced red tape, easier access to crowdfunding, easier access to 457s, entrepreneur visas, etc. not faster internet. startupaus' crossroads report never mentions internet access.
take up of the fastest internet packages is poor too. over 75% of nbn subscribers get the first two tiers of access, 12Mb and 25Mb.
>>74937866
I want to watch 6
>>74937403
telstra offered to do it, but they wanted exclusive access. this is what led to the nbn.
>>74940469
you live amongst abos though
Yep, the markets will decide when there is enough demand for faster internet.
>>74938427
ran late, ran over budget, deployed to poor choice electorates and states first, couldn't get telstra to do an appropriate bid, forced contractors to bid twice to screw down their wages.
>>74941845
>you live amongst abos though
It is good training for the future m8, when we will all be beset by brown hordes of dysfunctional subhumans.
>Labour fucks up by creating Telstra 2.0 as ISPs beginning to invest in infrastructure and investigate fiber rollouts
>Libs fuck up by changing the entire rollout on Telstra 2.0 and making fucking retarded deals with ISPs
>Libs now get to point out how fucked up the rollout
The entire fucking thing was a mistake from the beginning and both parties should have just fucked off and left well enough alone. Maybe putting up incentive contracts for MUH FARMERS and MUH REGIONAL electorates. Central planning a shit.
>m-muh innovation
>won't invest in the infrastructure necessary for tech innovation
>still no Australian Silicon Valley
>meanwhile China jewing us hard to solidify their manufacturing industry
None of the major parties have a clue about economics. After muh rocks are dug up we're done.
>>74939445
>south coast of nsw
How's the NBN situation there?
>>74939358
I need to be able to share large CAD and video files with my peers. My upload speed is 3mbps, it can take all night to upload my changes to a project. At that point it's just quicker for me to drive over to each of my project partners and give them a memory stick.
>>74942029
faggot
>>74939814
VR has already died in the arse once already.
the price, and the price of the computers driving it, have to drop drastically to move away from the gaming and porn niche that it currently occupies.
>>74942234
What the fuck are you talking about, it's literally the opposite. The current higher cost of entry makes it only attractive for industry applications.
>>74942366
industry, who struggle to keep their old desktops on current versions of windows, are going to splash out $1.6k for vr headsets, then more for new hardware and extra graphics cards, for what applications exactly?
industry is flat out trying to implement agile.
>>74936979
Don't come to Perth. Too many of you eastern states faggots already came here for the mining boom and now won't leave. Fuck off, best coast is full.
>>74934791
>However, the Coalition's version which won't be completed until 2020 and will only provide download speeds of 25Mbps, well below the global average.
Dude i don't give a shit just give me 25Mbps. That is already over double my current download speed/
>>74934440
Quit bitching you nig nog abos.
>Live in america
>pay 70 dollars a month for 200 kb/s download 100 upload
Fuck off whiners. 25 Mbps is fucking amazing.
>>74942995
This.
>>74936979
If you're white come to Newcastle, I swear it's 98% white, few specks here and there but mostly clean. There's one shitty old mosque in a fringe suburb and they're trying to get approval for a big one in town but the townspeople and the council keep shooting it down. Pretty blue collar though
If not you can fuck off, stay in melbourne
>>74939401
My internet is generally alright to deal with. Unless I'm using wi-fi on my phone. Then it's terrible.
>>74934440
If you NEED faster internet, then surely you can pay a little bit more out of your own pocket and get fiber installed directly to your residence, no? If your not willing to pay, then how bad did you really need it?
>>74936097
I'm confused. One second the left is denying that the ABC is biased, the next second they say they love the ABC because the challenge the evil right wing Murdoch papers...
Face it, if the ABC wasn't full on biased, the left simply wouldn't support it like they do.
>>74936979
Is that a local government building?
Lefties in positions of power really don't get the idea that things they do could ever come back to bite them, do they?
>Gee, its a good idea to use our power to support our own personal ideological causes, like that couldn't possibly set a bad precedent.
>>74934791
this is 100% true though
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>>74939401
60 dollarydoos for this
>>74939689
>My internet is worse than an Australians
M-maybe I'll make it to Lexington some day...
>>74941845
Not really. Most of the abos are in camps or hang around the city.
I very rarely see them in my town.
Plus they're not even that bad.
us in the arab lands have better internet
>>74945148
I would probably kill myself.
>>74945764
all the better to stream your beheading with
>>74945757
>they're not even that bad
m8 are you an abo yourself? Be honest.
>>74944342
The ABC is not independent. They just have more people convinced that there is such a thing as objective significance and only their editors have the power to determine it, why? because others get proven biased more often. That just proves the ABC style of subtle bias is more effective at flying the independent flag longer since they are also running the campaign against the irredeemable sin of being caught as biased.
ABC IS MOST TRUSTED*
*by people who use the word trust near the concept "broadcast news"
>>74946221
Nah
They're still shitty people. They just have no impact on my day to day life. They don't vote to make the country worse. They don't steal my shit or try to legislate my hobbies away. They don't try to force me to tolerate them, the vast majority of abos here are just content living their shitty live in the mud and as long as it's not affecting me I am happy to leave them there.
>>74946458
m8 if you were a business owner you wouldn't say they were harmless.
Open a shop in Alice Springs m8 and you will change your tune. They wreck life for everyone around them.
>>74945821
Includes 500GB of data per month
>>74944512
>Is that a local government building?
It's the Victorian parliament
Daniel Andrews is cancerous.
>>74940598
500kb/s down not sure about up. Inner sydney
>>74946523
I 100% agree they fuck other people's shit up. I lived in Kununurra for a while and they would break in all the time, steal shit, rock my car etc.
Hence why I don't live there anymore, also why I didn't move somewhere like Alice. My point was they don't affect me here.
>>74946895
m8 you did say:
>Plus they're not even that bad.
>>74947065
Should have specified they're not that bad here in particular. They're bad in general.
Soz m8
>>74939401
>get oppressed by soviets for two generations
>faster internet than australia
>australians parrot government memes about the dangers of freedom
>australians welcome millions of indonesians and bangladeshis ontoctheir shores
Hmmmm
>>74934440
>>74947282
>someone actually sat down and drew this
so australia has the same problem as we do with ISP monopolies except their entire government is cucking them over as hard as Comcast, do I have that right?
>>74947532
This was drawn within days, if not hours of his death, if I recall correctly.
>>74942083
>After muh rocks are dug up we're done.
This. we basically run the country on artificially inflating housing prices with low interest and mass immigration.
If they ever stop and the housing market crashes there will be a massive recession with no industry besides 'services' left to pull us out of it.
>>74939401
Granted I'm with dodo, though I plan to switch to internode once I get the dollarydoos to do so
in any case holy fuck am I sick of this shit
>want to be pc master race
>don't care about online games so I don't need a fast internet for that
>every fucking game in eb games/game traders is dog shit
>every fucking game worth having is on steam
>minimum 2 weeks download time per game
>2 weeks not including hours the pc is off
>>74950003
That's still a perfectly fine Internet speed if you only need to read stuff and whatnot. I'd be happy with that.
>>74950003
Why even live?
>>74935862
>I have lived in Sydney/Melbourne my entire life and have never had to put up with the degrading copper networking all over the rest of the country
Get fucked, mug.
>>74934440
thank god, it'll keep this board from filling up wiht more austistic cancer
>>74950003
How can you load /pol/ with .24?
Here's a 1 min webm
>>74937409
>PAY FOR HIGHER WATER PRESSURE
>Private industry wont replace the pumps
>Public sector promises to install pumps that'll well outlast the next 100 years, eventually turns it into a political shit flinging contest, promises to replace the pumps 60km away
WAKE ME UP
