Why do people refuse to acknowledge the glaring flaws of capitalism?
>>74910752
Like there's a better alternative?
The commiejew?
The socialjew?
Also
>niggers in jail
>spics in jail
Just as it should be.
>>74910752
State-funded capitalism is pretty shitty, I agree.
>22 empty homes
Then live in them! Oh wait, most of those shitholes are so bad a dog wouldn't shit in it without the entire place falling apart
Pic related is one of those 22 abandoned homes.
>50% of congress is millionaires!!
Really? Successful people go on to do big things. Shocker.
>146,000,000 in poverty
Because we have a welfare state, it pays off big time to under report your income or cut your own hours.
>racist criminal justice system
Coons live near each other when they are poor, white live rurual when poor. City folk (coloreds) have more interactions with people and therefore cops. Whites (rural) don't have much interactions with the sheriffs.
>wages are stagnant
Because a burger flipping job barely produces $10 worth of work per hour. If it produced more the person could expect to see a raise every now and again as they could demand more for their efforts
But hey, I'm sure communism/socialism whatever is better because freebies right?
>>74911201
You mispelled "corporate funded state".
>>74911697
>Really? Successful people go on to do big things. Shocker
To be fair, John McCain marrying into a rich family to bank roll his campaign was pretty successful.
>>74910752
I don't. That's why I'm a national socialist.
>>74912349
This. Socialism and Capitalism both end up with most of the wealth concentrated in the hands of the small clique.
The so called "intellectuals" of both schools, from Marx to Robert Nozick to Ayn Rand, are all Jewish. They all support the same things, open borders, "equality," multicultural society, erosion of Western pillars like religion, families, in favor of loose ties to the state or the dollar.
National Socialism is the only thing by and for the people. You'll never see a jew argue for it.
>>74910752
The USA is not practicing capitalism in its real form.
Corruption is everywhere--legal, state, corporate, and monetary.
The system is going down, and almost everyone in the hard money community knows it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMld73bNCMQ
America will, at some point, resemble Venezuela or Zimbabwe.
>>74911026
>>74911201
You can be traditionalist and still be anti capitalist
see
>>74914351
>>74914351
>>74914667
>not muh real capitalism
Hi Stefan
>>74910752
This isn't capitalism's fault though; it's your shitty fucking country.
>capitalism has something to do with blacks being in prison
>since there are empty homes, we're just supposed to GIVE them away
>politicians are rich, what a shocker
Also, how is productivity measured? Hours worked? Items produced?
>>74915279
GDP.
By way of reference, a world with no borders would be twice as productive, but you'd see a drastic fall in your wages.
The free market will fix it.
>>74911026
Mercantilism.
>>74910752
>Why do people refuse to acknowledge the glaring flaws of capitalism?
Silly Socialist. We don't participate in capitalism in this country.
We have government sponsored crony Capitalism. Its really no different than Socialism.
>>74910752
No one ever flees from capitalism.
>>74911697
>that picture
Detroit.jpg
>>74912232
Seems like a good strategy. We should all go that route
>>74915613
Crony capitalism is the natural development of the capitalist mode of production. The rich attempt to tweak the system in their favour, acting in their class interest at the expense of the working class masses.
>>74910752
When has anyone crawled through barbed wire, land mines, and search lights to escape free market capitalism?
>>74910752
Propaganda and carrots on sticks. That and most people are too retarded to ever critically analyze what they already agree with.
Instead of fixing the problem lets just fuck shit up - all communists
>>74910752
Where have you been? Socialism has been in vogue for years.
HOLY SHIT, I MADE A COPYPASTA 5 YEARS AGO JUST FOR THIS MOMENT. (I haven't seen this image in years)
>There are 22 empty homes for every homeless person So what does this tell us? It tells us that because it isn't sold yet, owners of it should give it away to charity and lose money on it. >50% of congress millionaires, 1% Citizens millionaires You don't complain about anesthesiologists making ~400,000 per year when the average American makes ~40,000. >Half of the population is near poor or in poverty Your point? If you think this is because of capitalism as a whole, that's simply laughable. I won't even bother with this one. >Productivity rises as The hourly wage is stagnate That's because of the technological revolution. >5% of population, 25% of prison population. How is this related to capitalism? >Racist Justice System! Are you serious'? Are you new? Do you honestly think that's because of racism? >government spends too much money on military Again, irrelevant to capitalism.
>>74910752
those things do not go hand in hand with "capitalism" or else those stats would have been true since the beginning "capitalism" was adopted for every country, which is not true
kill yourself and move to north korea or china the gov will take care of you
>>74916279
Haha fuck line breaks
>>74915762
Zillow in Detroit is a gold mine
>>74915279
In a sense capitalism, as it has been implemented in America, does have a bit to do with blacks being in prison. The CIA running cocaine into black neighborhoods and the ensuing creation of gangs stems on the one hand from the CIA having a financial/power-based stake in using a cocaine epidemic to deflect attention from the scandals Reagan was engrossed in (so that he could continue to privatize and deregulate, in the interests of neoliberal capitalism) and on the other hand those gangs became so powerful largely by taking Capitalism to its darkest end.
However, it certainly doesn't account for the majority at all, and, while gangs are often the catalyst for the destruction of their own people and neighborhoods, its the fault of the people in the neighborhood for not being smart enough to leave/get a better job/go to college etc.
>>74910752
Because the alternative is literally a toothache VS bullet in the head.
Let's be clear. The only place socialism has worked is in Europe in recent times because:
>a) 90% plus White
>b) Little to no defence spending, since America babysits them
And finally
>c) You STILL end up being destroyed by your own apathy and cuckedness, as can be seen in REAL time.
Being poor in America, is literally a long, long list of self fuck ups
>b-but some rich people are fucks! They inherited their m-money...
SO? Did that somehow cause YOUR OWN failures? Cause someone got born lucky?
>>74910752
You aren't entitled to free shit
>>74911697
A picture of Detroit
who ran Detroit into the ground?
>democrats
>>74916304
But they do go hand in hand.
What we see today in the USA is not capitalism failing because of corruption or because it is not real capitalism. What most of /pol/ doesn't seem to understand yet is that the society in which we live today in not only a byproduct of capitalism, it is literally the ONLY way it can ever be. There is no willy wishy capitalist utopia. Otherwise we would've seen it already. Capitalism, with enough time, ALWAYS leads to the consolidation of power and power brings corruption with it. There is no other way. This is because money exist.
tl;dr
Capitalist are are delusional about their economic system as communist are.
>>74916562
Like I said, a gold mine....
>>74911697
>$100
Hell, you'd be silly not to buy it. You never know what could happen in the future. Detroit might become a place to live again, and that $100 would turn into $400,000. There's a high chance of it not happening, but $100 is nothing anyway.
>inb4 have to pay taxes
>>74910752
>Why do people refuse to acknowledge the glaring flaws of capitalism?
Do you have a better system? No? Then stfu
>>74916528
>having this little understanding of Socialism
I don't even agree with Socialists m8 but come on at least read a wikipedia article
>>74916518
>SO? Did that somehow cause YOUR OWN failures? Cause someone got born lucky?
Indirectly it does.
>>74916279
Pls fix your format, it's unreadable
>>74916642
What are gun laws like in Detroit?
could buy an entire city block and turn it into a compound
>>74910752
> discretionary budget
This is how you know it's misleading bullshit.
>>74916679
I was thinking the same, a good investment in detroit and you can make some dank profits, assuming the city improves
>>74916757
No, it doesn't. The rich doesn't force people to buy shitty ideas. They buy it willingly. Unless they have the responsibility and self-accountability of childern(which they do, but insist on the benefits of adults).
>>74910752 Most of this is misleading, or irrelevant.
There a zero empty homes in NYC or SF, but tens of thousands of homeless live there. Home that aren't where people are are useless.
Ok, that one is actually true, but that's politics not capitalism. Go vote for someone who's poor.
Poverty is relative, just be glad you don't live in part of the EU that isn't Scandinavia or Germany.
Productivity has decoupled from wages due to automation, that has nothing to do with capitalism.
Crime victimization studies show that blacks and Latinos commit proportionally more crime. It would be racist if whites were jailed at an equal rate.
Discretionary funds are like 40% of federal budget, the rest is entitlements. Also the other categories are really the purview of the states, most of the money spent here comes from state budgets.
>>74915947
But that's fucking wrong. Crony capitalism is where people sell their political power and in return create government contracts with the people they made a deal with--Instead of shopping for a better deal.
Take government power out of the equation, and people will vote with their wallets instead of making back room deals.
>>74916679
Here, current listing.
Become a real estate mogul today!
>>74910752
>puts animals in cages than humans
sounds like the system has its upsides
>>74916382
>citation needed
>>74910752
don't worry about it the free market will fix it
>>74910752
Do you know what those homeless people would do to that house?
When you don't earn something, a lot of times you don't take care of that thing the way you should. They would destroy those houses.
>>74911026
>le ebin niggers did it meme
ebin hahah XDDDD
>muh gommunizm
epic strawman bro. troll harder.
>>74910752
As a latino, I can say that the justice system isn't racist. I'm a citizen, go to college there and everything, never been discriminated against and I'm brown as fuck. I just don't commit crimes. Pretty simple.
>>74914351
>National Socialism is the only thing by and for the people
It's just as much a pile of collectivist horseshit as Marxism. Capitalism problem is that most of it's proponents don't care when it fails to support the principles it is derived from. All collectivist economics require human beings to be perfect. Free market principles anticipate imperfection and seek to direct them in a productive method.
The "give houses to the homeless" is the dumbest meme I've ever heard and I hate that it keeps getting spewed.
>what are property taxes
>what are utilities
>what is upkeep of the house itself that homeless people aren't going to do anyway
>>74910752
you guys are cuck homos, we need defense to gget rid of niggers and keep everyone but asains and god tier sothamericans, (not braznigian)
>>74917381
I'm hispanic as well and all you have to do to succeed in America is graduate high school, get a job and not have a kid before marriage. Also, don't commit crimes. It's really easy, I do it everyday.
![4416791903_438969684b_o.0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/si63MOR.jpg "4416791903_438969684b_o.0[1].jpg")
>>74915746
Are you retarded?
>>74917548
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>>74910752
It must be capitalism that made wages decrease with worker's productivity!!1! #ResistCapitalism
>>74916082
>Haiti
>El Salvador
>Chile
>Tsarist Russia
>Honduras
>Guatemala
>Mexico
>Indonesia
>Spain
>any other country you could easily find in a book of 20th century history
>>74916518
>there's only one alternative
wew lad
>>74916528
>le free shit strawman
>>74917274
Okay I fucked up a little bit when I implied the CIA itself flooded the streets with coke but they definitely knew about it and allowed it to happen because it was being directly run by the Contras, who they were backing, to over throw shit Leftist government of their country
Sorry it's been a while since I've reviewed the story.
https://www.rt.com/usa/194992-cia-crack-scandal-webb/
Basically it was a double whammy of the ensuing cocaine/crack and in turn crime epidemic deflecting attention from Reagan's own deficiencies but even more important it was a way for allies of the US Government at the time to fund their counter revolution which the CIA was heavily involved with (a lot of the leaders of the Contras were trained at the School of the Americas for instance)
What socialism gets you.
>>74917786
We all know what these threads usually imply.
>>74916562
If you knew anything about global economics and current events you'd know it wasn't a convenient fault of one party to blame, but the coincidence of several factors leading to globalization and shipping of jobs overseas.
>>74917823
Detroit is run by socialists?
>>74917823
>any large locality in the US
>remotely socialist
wew lad
>>74917905
Democrats so yea.
Their policies ran jobs out of Detroit and made them go broke
>>74910752
Those are only contradictions if you think it's somehow supposed to serve you and others who don't work.
It isn't. Fuck you.
Because plebs are more content living with the 0.0001% possibility that they will become the next Mark Cuban someday, rather than facing the 99.999% reality that they'll be the worst kind of slave in the world under capitalism.
>>74910752
here you go, faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg
>>74916679
You have to pay a shitload of back fees in order to buy the property. Detroit is run by some of the dumbest niggers in America, see for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrFvAiQDuEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpzRuB-YMpg
They want welfare so, they load a shitload of taxes on property to pay for their gibs me dats.
>>74918236
That's a textbook example of a strawman argument.
>>74918017
Democrats aren't Socialists in America m8 although I agree they're just as shit tier
>>74917725
>Barbed wire, land mines, and search lights
>>74916987
Is it difficult to gentrification an area?
Is it legal to get private security contracters standing on street corners if you buy the whole block?
How does democrat run everything mix with that? Did the constant violence redpill anyone remaining in city hall?
>>74910752
That's not a "capitalism" problem. That's a niggers and jews problem.
>>74918405
Come to think of it, some of those countries were too poor to afford such things.
>>74918238
>You have to pay a shitload of back fees in order to buy the property. Detroit is run by some of the dumbest niggers in America, see for yourself
this
For all the people wondering why Detroit is stagnant. It's all of the back taxes on property that's abandoned.
The niggers running the city are retarded like this, and it's why the city falls deeper into ruin. Like all of the other cities and neighborhoods that have niggers for locally-elected officials. Niggers are HORRIBLE at attracting capital and business investment. This is why a lot of areas are shitty: they cannot attract investment.
>>74910752
that's not a capitalism problem, it's a human nature problem.
You can prove me wrong by giving all your possessions away to those poorer than you.
>>74910752
Your miss characterizing much OP. Pure capitalism has lifted humanity from impoverished lives. Think of the feudal agrarian in any society. One bad winter and your family starves to death. No savings, you barely get to purchase new stuff, no luxuries. The poor flee to capitalist societies, not vice versa. Who is fleeing to Mexico?
The problem is the government and the Federal Reserve have rigged the system where we have a corporate wellfare state. This has benefited corporations and hurt individual consumers. Last, your graph about federal spending, if you sum up all the categories you have it's a little over 1 trillion. Our government's budget is 9 trillion a year, so where are the discrepancies? It's entitlement spending. Social Security, Medicare, and Medicade (with some others) account for 70% of the yearly budget. 6 Trillion dollars!! I'm not saying we should get rid of those benefits, promises were made, and taxes were paid. And we also pay about 8% on interest to past deficits, we have big problems. Time is running out.
>>74917167
if we keep getting fucked over by ignorant goyim voting for corporate shills a la clinton, what companies do you think will succeed?
Ethical consumerism is as bad as expecting ethical voting, it would simply lead to corporate propaganda and a pseudo-state of the top corporations with arms in "security services" and horizontal/vertical monopolies on a plethora of industries
>>74917725
>tsarist russia
>capitalism
pick one friend
>>74910752
Because I have a lot of money from capitalism and couldn't give two shits about your peasent ass
>>74910752
>government spending
>criminal justice system
>percentage of millionaires in Congress
Hmmm what do all these things have in common, is it like the government or something? Nah it's capitalism, you're right.
>>74910752
>contradiction
None of those are arguments
>During the 1870s and 1880s, the U.S. economy rose at the fastest rate in its history, with real wages, wealth, GDP, and capital formation all increasing rapidly.[37] For example, between 1865 and 1898, the output of wheat increased by 256%, corn by 222%, coal by 800% and miles of railway track by 567%.[38] Thick national networks for transportation and communication were created. The corporation became the dominant form of business organization, and a scientific management revolution transformed business operations. By the beginning of the 20th century, gross domestic product and industrial production in the United States led the world. Kennedy reports that "U.S. national income, in absolute figures in per capita, was so far above everybody else's by 1914." Per capita income in the United States was $377 in 1914 compared to Britain in second place at $244, Germany at $184, France at $153, and Italy at $108, while Russia and Japan trailed far behind at $41 and $36.[39][40] Europe, especially Britain, still remained the financial center of the world until 1914 yet the United States' growth caused foreigners to ask, as British author W. T. Stead wrote in 1901, "What is the secret of American success?"[41] The businessmen of the Second Industrial Revolution created industrial towns and cities in the Northeast with new factories, and hired an ethnically diverse industrial working class, many of them new immigrants from Europe.
>>74917576
>Guatemala
>implying it was truly capitalist at any point in time
>implying people weren't fleeing from a civil war caused by murderous dictatorial tyrants
Kill yoself senpai
>>74910752
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's stuff to steal.
you think the richest people horde cash? it's not the fucking 15th century anymore, they don't have big vaults full of jewellery and gold coins stagnating. it's all invested, which is incredibly beneficial for the economy. and not just in the USA, it benefits the global economy. in particular the super rich do absolutely not keep all their assets in banks - that's why they're assets, and why it's difficult to accurately predict a net worth of someone worth millions or more. the majority is invested. by letting the rich become richer, their investment in corporations, banks, whatever, leads to growth and EVERYONE benefits as a result. this is pretty basic stuff. there is not a constant amount of "wealth" in the world, it is generated as time goes on. so what if the wage gap increases slightly, if the gap between rich and poor increases. are your wages stagnant? do you not get an increase every few years? do basic necessities not get cheaper, on average, every year? is your standard of living not better now than it was 10 years ago? the answer, in case you're wondering, is yes they do. every complaint you, and the rest of the left have boils down to jealousy, which is pretty pathetic to be honest.
tl;dr : money in the hands of the rich leads to a healthy economy, and a healthy economy benefits everyone.
