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How do libertarians deal with orphaned children?
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>inb4 a libertarian calls this post a troll and refuses to answer
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How do they deal with roads?
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>>74905710
>>74905973
The children will be taken as slave labor to build the roads.
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>>74905710
you enslave them after they trespass on your property
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>>74905973
>b-but an-non that's j-j-j-just a meme! i don't have to answer memes
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Libertarian is not anarchism. Libertarians believe that the government does have a role, but that it should be minimized. Why is /pol/ so bad at politics?
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>>74905710

How do statists simultaneously think that people are too inherently evil to donate to charity voluntarily yet are perfectly virtuous enough to collect and distribute funds by force?
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>>74905710
You create a free market on adoptions. NOT CHILD PROSTITUTION. SO FUCKING TIRED OF PEOPLE THINKING LIBERTARIANISM ENDORSES CHILD PROSTITUTION. IT DOESN'T.

The NAP means you CANNOT harm anyone except in self defense, including defense of your property. That includes raping kids.

The purpose of a free market on ADOPTIONS is that when you put your kids up for adoption, you CAN get reimbursed for the cost of raising it.

Orphans would be similar, except they'd go to the most loving and wealthy homes.

Literally no way to argue against it except by being a hypocrite.
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>>74905710
daily reminder that appeals to empathy are womanly and true patricians don't throw away moral arguments just because liberty results in some people suffering
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How do we deal with orphans now?
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A private organization that either exploits the children's labor for profit, or takes donations from people who feel the children should be cared for will house them.

>>74905973

The same way the government does: hire private contractors to build them for the people who want them.
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>>74906226
who determines which homes are loving and wealthy?

how is the answer not a government agency LOL
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>>74906291
we let their corpses get fucked by pedophile hollywood directors after being starved to death in a rape dungeon
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>>74905710

Children are human beings that are not responsible for their own actions; instead, they have an adult taking responsibility for them. Thus orphans would need someone to take care of them, like people in orphanages, charities, people that find them in the streets, etc., or live for themselves (which means they're not children anymore).

In essence, this would be dealt just like before the government stepped in this social problem.

And yes, a logical follow-up is that NEETs living in their mother's basement are children, since their parents would be responsible for any fuck ups they do.
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They should be aborted before they are orphans.
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>>74905710
Like in anime: a family member willtake them in. And possibly have a romantic relationship with her.
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>>74905710
2 words. Soylent Green
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>>74905710
they fill potholes with them idiot
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>>74906338
um, because a private adoption agency would solve it. They would charge a small fee. The most trustworthy ones would get the most clients.
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>>74905710
Send them to work at the orphan mines
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>>74905710
Let the free market sort it out. I'm sure corporations would find it profitable to guarantee future employee loyalty and reliability by opening an orphanage designed to mold future workers and maybe even managers from an early age. Once they're 9-10, they'll start working underneath and in tight spaces in the unregulated machinery that couldn't otherwise be reached by full-grown workers. Just put a shock collar on them and if they refuse to work or under perform, give em a good jolt and up the voltage each time. If they end up becoming a liability, just execute em who cares. One less mouth to feed.
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>>74906141

Minimised as much as possible and sometimes brought down to an umpire for contacts and nothing more. Any more government intervention than this and you're just a Classical Liberal who thinks they're edgy and different.
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>>74905710
not an argument

>>74905973
not an argument

>>74906105
not an argument
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>>74905710
Charity there were thousands of orphanages that existed before the foster care system was created.
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>>74905710
private orphanages, churches, and private charities
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>>74906649
And they were hell holes of sexual, physical, and emotional abuse that produced mentally ill criminals
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>>74905973
>How will people build driveways without the government?
same concept
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>>74906781
Unlike the angelic foster parents we have today.
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>>74906141
>Libertarian is not anarchism. Libertarians believe that the government does have a role, but that it should be minimized. Why is /pol/ so bad at politics?

This is not an argument. It's amazing how libertarians, upon being exposed to any question they don't have a ready answer for, just unconditionally go "BUT THAT'S ANARCHISM" regardless that many minarchist libertarians there are who think that it shouldn't be the purview of the government.

Saying "I don't know" is a perfectly acceptable answer as the burden isn't on you to be a grandmaster of every conceivable economic question for all of time.
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>>74906832

HOW WILL PEOPLE MASTURBATE WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT AGENCY AND LICENSING TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE PROPEREEEEEEEEEEE
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>>74906330
how do you exclude people from using roads in cities?
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>>74906832
how do you prevent someone from using those roads? tollbooth at every intersection?
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>>74906226
>Orphans would be similar, except they'd go to the most loving and wealthy homes
Yeah it's all that damn government intervention that's causing 14 year olds from the inner city not being adopted to yuppy liberal whites in the suburbs.
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>>74907510

Maybe there can be a tollbooths for whole swathes of roads and you can buy long term passes for the roads you regularly use.
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>>74905710
Let the church deal with them.
>>74905973
We already have roads. You dont need anymore roads you greedy fuck. when is enough enough?
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>>74905710
You allow the community where the orphan resides decide what happens to the orphan.
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>>74905710
Libertarianism =/= Anarchy.

In a Libertarian society, there is still government. The key is that it is very limited.

With tax rates as low as these, where charities don't have to compete with the Government, and people have much more left over income to donate, charities will thrive.

With the war on drugs over, there will be much fewer orphaned children. More fathers would be there for their kids, instead of in prison. Poverty would be less common. Pay would be higher, thanks to the lower tax rates.

For immediate help, the government would help these children find the right charity.
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>>74907294
Well according to the Libertarian party policies your wrong.
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>>74907967
what about in a city?
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>>74905710
Eat them or sell them to Jews
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>>74907510
>>74907967

Like say you could buy a pass for your neighborhood, a stretch of the highway leading from you neighbourhood to downtown, and one for down town. And pay for other roads as you go. You already have to pay for parking passes.

It would probably be cheaper for the individual than the taxes used to pay for those roads, with major users such as businesses paying the bulk of the cost and people only paying for what they actually use. With home owners associations and business associations on their ass who own the land and control the maintenance contracts, the roads would be well maintained.
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>>74905710
How do liberals deal with aborted fetuses?
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Nothing, when the hell did everyone else become my responsibility? When did I sign a fucking contract saying that I was fiscally and socially responsible to care for every other shithead who lives on the same chunk of land as me? They can go with their aunts or uncles or grandparents, we don't need to further a faceless and bloated bureaucracy full of useless cunts in suits because muh orphans, get real.
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>>74908239

See

>>74908417
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>>74908468
Dude, weed. Lmao
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>>74908417
so one contractor builds all of downtown?
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>>74908113
>Well according to the Libertarian party policies your wrong.

Well they are a left wing communist outfit so I don't give a shit what they say the "official" positions are.
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>>74908544
rephrasing this, would there be one owner for all the roads in downtown?
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>>74908544

No. But one contractor could be responsible for the maintenance of downtown. Or even its split into quadrants,between contractors your job would most likely provide you with the requisite passes like they do with parking if you worked downtown.

Even so if commercial development is High enough, business associations could pay for the roads or quadrants important to their business or cover x number of "free" day passes for shoppers or provide unlimited access during certain hours. People who have bridges as the main artery into their downtown core are used to paying tolls anyhow.
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>>74908674
>Libertarian Party
>Closest thing you can get to the founding fathers
>Communist
>Left wing
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Orphaned kids make great drug dealers. They will be like the kid short round in indiana jones. Tiny little creatures that will drive taxis and save you from religious fanatics. There will also be these special entrances in clubs and shooting ranges where the kids can come in and deliver drugs to the patrons.
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>>74908049
Essentially this, libertarian policy means less stringent law practice meaning more fathers and sons out of prison for pointless reasons. This has a whole host of benefits, less orphans being one of them.
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>>74905710
The same way modern countries generally do, passed around to relatives to probably end up getting molested.
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>>74909011

As well the usual arguments against this relate to the inefficiencies and annoyances of toll booths, but it's 2016 - we have digital passes now where the people who use them prop them up in their windshield and are billed immediately by credit card or at the end of the month.
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>>74907450
Hire someone to follow people illegally using your roads and slash their tires when they part their car.
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>>74906574
This works as well. With libertarian policy, younger people have an opportunity to work and sustain themselves while providing for their community. This means statist scum have to drop the idea of muh utopia where all children are perfect and educated angels. Hands are going to get dirty but it's a dog eat dog world, don't have a heart attack on me.
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>>74905710
Bricks. Lots and lots of bricks.

But seriously, churches, charities and communities in general. The only difference now is that you volunteer to help Tyrone's babby's leave the nest and get on the street to create more crime rather than have the government mandate you do.
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>>74909011
I realized I phrased that wrong/stupidly after I posted it since the contractor wouldn't be the one collecting the tolls. I just don't see how the downtown roads would work unless there was a single toll collecting firm that could prevent all traffic from entering the city (or downtown) without paying the toll (you couldn't feasibly have individually owned roads in a major city, imagine trying to do that in manhattan). And even then I don't know how businesses in the city would work with the toll collecting firm.
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>>74909309
so you'd have an easy pass at every intersection?
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>>74908049
how does your limited government deal with law enforcement and defense from external and internal threats?
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>>74909630
Libertarianism is not anarchy. There is an established military and police force. In some schools of libertarian thought, like those of Hans Hermann Hoppe and I believe Rothbard, they believe in strict immigration and a powerful police force. There are far less laws, but those that are broken will be punished rigorously. It's perfect.
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>>74911132
and how the fuck are you gonna pay for the military and police force with low taxes?
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>>74905973
toll roads?
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>>74905710
A competitive market for adopters, combined with the concept of emancipation, doh.
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>>74912274
They will be smaller and more efficient as opposed to the bloated military and police budget we have now. With a non interventionist foreign policy we won't need a large military that polices the world and with a country that has less laws we won't need a large and powerful police force. Don't over complicate this, friend.
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>>74905710
They purchase them from orphanages and use them as slave labor in their factories, exactly as the Victorian Era intended.

>>74908049
>Libertarianism =/= Anarchy.
Yes it does.

>In a Libertarian society, there is still government.
No there isn't.

>>74911132
>Libertarianism is not anarchy.
Yes it is.

>There is an established military and police force
There is absolutely no reason anarchists can’t buy mercs too.

>It's perfect.
Except the part all libertarians miss: that now you’ve weakened the government so much that the first person to achieve wealth, buys more power to buy more wealth in a feedback loop until they start buying the government and repeat the entire cycle over again and the government can’t do shit to stop it because corporations and the rich have infinitely more power than the government.
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>>74914369
By definition libertarianism is minarchist in nature, not anarchist, small government vs. no government. There are no mercenaries, it doesn't work. That's basic politics, covered in The Prince by the wonderful Machiavelli, mercs are not loyal and are bought.

As far as "buying the government" is concerned, that has already been done. However, with libertarian policy there would be no corporate subsidization and safety nets, so the corporations would not need to buy politicians for favors, considering there is no true policy that would effect them significantly.
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>>74909147
>the libertarian party of today is at all similar to the beliefs of the founding fathers
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>>74905710
I heard one saying that they could be sold and all
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