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Your country was founded on the massacre of Indians. Try and give me an excuse, Americans..
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>>74890713
yours too
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>>74890713
Get over it.
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>>74890713
Can we have central america back? Alongside the non-broken bits and pieces of south america?
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>>74890713

Survival of the fittest
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>>74890713
Should've killed more when we had the chance. We are the reason why there's one less nigger-tier in the Americas.
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>>74890713
p.s. horses are not native to North America and those Indians would not have had them without the white man.
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Where the original territorial boundaries? Back before anyone used their advantages for gain?
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>>74890713
Not really, it was more like slow destruction over centuries. Either killed in small scale raids or forcibly assimilated into American culture.
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>>74890713
your country was founded on the removal of humans
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>>74890713
They were weak.
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>>74890713
They were not united in any way. They had maybe one alliance. They were too stupid to declare themselves sovereignty.
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>>74890750
Actually the Portuguese and the natives traded a lot. They were catequized by missionaires and saved by the teachings of the Church. Later on the natives started working in some plantations, and today many still exist. They are an important part of Brazilian culture and national identity, and very well respected.
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>>74890713
>says the country who move around its own tribes for more forest land
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>>74890713
>they needed whites even more than the africans
>no thanks only drama

why did we even leave europe desu senpai?
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>>74890713
>Try and give me an excuse
Why? We know what we did.
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>>74890713
>founded
Constitution contains nothing pertaining to Indians. Land ownership is not dictated on a "finders keepers" basis.
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Mook please ban all BR IPs from posting.
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>>74890713
Nobody cares
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>>74890713
The Mexicans did it too.
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>>74891004
okay, the potuguese went a little softer on them. but there were massacres and the smallpox must have hit as hard

hmm, maybe their softness is one of the reasons why brazil faces so many difficulties today...
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>>74890713
Guilt? Hell, I'm proud of it.
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Most of the plagues happened before colonists even arrived. Plague swept in front of the Spanish, for instance, so when Pizarro's men were in Peru they were fighting already weakened populations. The Pilgrims settled Plymouth because it was an abandoned Indian village with pre-existing buildings and fields, a pattern that happened over and over even without driving anyone away. The Indian Wars on the US Great Plains was only a small part of it.

>There was no single massacre.
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>>74890713
An excuse to do what, be a nigger?
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>>74890750
/thread

hue hue
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>>74891148
how is that feel when nobody cares about muh xyz gorillion? pretty jealous right now
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>>74890713
They were stone age savages. They were prehistoric nomads who hadn't invented beer.
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Casino Americans couldn't compete.
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>>74890907

Which time period?
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>>74890713
so was yours
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Hey dumb shit slider. They got their horses from Europeans.
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>>74890713
if they didnt die many who are alive today wouldnt exist because white people and black people who live in america had to have their ancestors meet.
in any case that their parents didnt immigrate into america in the last generation the likely hood of this happening in europe or africa is slim most likely

im not going to apologize for existing fuck off beaner
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>>74890713
The Lokata (Souix) and Apache killed other indians for sport. Their empires were based on massacres of indians. It was never hard to find indians to help us track and fight them.

So should we give the land back to the indians that murdered other indians for it? Or should we give it to the original indians that lived on it? Who were they? Maybe we should kill ourselves and give North America back to the Buffalo.

Yeah, no - you're not a complete faggot.
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>>74890713
Survival of the fittest
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>>74890713
Yea, what about it, you ninny?
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>>74891413
Like the feeling of shrugging mixed with being drunk and waving a flag, knowing that nobody who hates you for it can do a damn thing.
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>>74891225
Untrue.
Look up Latin American history.
Whenever the Spanish went they preserved natives because they were used as scapegoat by missionaires. There was great fear that the Church would not survive the reformation in Europe, so Spain and Portugal, two countries basically created by the Churh, started sending missionaires everywhere, even as far as Japan, to convert locals.

>but there were massacres
Not true. There wasn't any massacre at all in recorded Brazilian history, by action of the Portuguese with the natives.

>smallpox
This was a matter with the Incas and Incas alone, not even Aztecs went trough smallpox. It was a particular case with the Incas because Cortez's ships would stop in Spanish Guinea for resupplying, this is, according to historians, how smallpox boarded Cortez ships and eventually spread to the Inca Empire.

>hmm, maybe their softness is one of the reasons why brazil faces so many difficulties today...

No, it isn't.
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>>74891629
we got tons of ummm... errr "indians" for you here in germany. pls take em
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>>74890904
There were horses until the dumb Natives hunted them to extinction.
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>>74891760
Let's just give them Antarctica, they can figure out how to stay warm and fed by themselves there, right? Just direct the boats there and wash our hands of the whole thing.
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>>74890879
You sure you want to raise that argument? Cause in thst case Praise Allah motherfucker. The same is happening to you.
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>>74890713
When the Spaniards arrived in their ocean going Galleons with there steel armor, horses, swords, muskets, and cannons they found a civilization that still practiced human sacrifice and worshipped the sun. The technological and cultural gap was impossible to bridge for any of the colonies later established or the expanding United States. Some tribes were still hunter-gatherers at the same time America was building railroads and factories. Their destruction was inevitable due in part to pathogens and the superiority of European cultures.
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>>74891683
sweet
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>It was us or them

I dont feel bad at all
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>>74890713

why is there guilt for winning a war against an enemy ?

it should be a celebration
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>>74891891
thats actually a good idea. according to MSM they can basically evertyhing.

surely some of their nuclear scientists will figure a way to power them
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>>74890713
so the fuck what? you sound like a bitch
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>>74891986

> The same is happening to you.

No, it most certainly is not
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>>74891986
no. europeans coming to america is more like super-high tec aliens coming to europe. not muslims.

indians didn't even had invented wheels btw
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>>74890713
they started it.
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>>74890713
I don't see how the massacre of a bunch of poo-in-loos relates to the founding of America
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>>74891745
No, I'm talking about Mexico, not the Spainish colony.
Mexico treated the Apache and Comanche like shit.
Eventually, they hired Anglos to do the job.
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>>74890713
they were nomadic warlords with plastic and overlapping territories.
>they were literally in a nation-wide gang warfare
>feeling sorry for grass niggers
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>>74893276

There were very clear boundaries and carefully negotiated mixed use areas at least in the eastern half of North America. There are still tree markers visible in the eastern woods that were shaped as boundary and road markers.
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Trudeau must already have apologized
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>>74890713
>Try and give me an excuse, Americans..
To the victor go the spoils. Besides, when we showed up, most of them were already massacring each other. We merely helped out and got a country out of it.
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>>74892270
Is that pic from a mad max movie?
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>>74891004
you forced them into assimilation like we did, you're no saints. maybe better than the Spanish but only because they went above and beyond.
believe it or not, the original plan for the natives was peace and land-sharong but they got aggressive and we overreacted. some helped fight the Spanish out of Florida and some helped Florida fuck us up. I think it was the rebels that ruined their executive reputation and forced us into war and mass migration with them. of course, most everybody back then was technically British so they're also fuckin retarded.
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>>74890713
We were only killing bigots who racistly massacred the original inhabitants to extinction you shitlord.
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>>74890713
>Your country was founded on the massacre of Indians. Try and give me an excuse, Americans.
We don't like Indians.
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>>74891745
>learns history from mother country
>believes every bit of it
our books say it a little differently
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>>74890713
>Try and give me an excuse

What for? They were the weaker people and lost their lands to those who were vastly superior to them.

Deal with it.
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>>74890713
The weak die and the strong survive. How do you say it in Portuguese?
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>>74890713
We tried to give them the gift of gambling, at first they rejected it and attacked us so we had to defend ourselves. Now they absolutely love that shit and we give them patronage. We're probably the best thing to happen to them, and that's coming from someone who is probably like 1/256th Creek, so I can speak for all of them.
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>>74891745
Tribal annihilation happened in Brazilian territory by a large extent. Mostly territories occupied by Portuguese-Spanish creoles in the Cisplatine, the now state of Santa Catarina and a region the stretches between Paraguay, Mato Grosso do Sul and ParanĂ¡. Tribes were completely exterminated from those regions and the few who made it alive were bred to extinction, as it happened throughout all of Brazil with the exception of the Amazon with their few remaining tribes and only 1 single tribe in all Americas that still remain 100% genetically pure.

Denying the atrocities committed against them doesn't serve any purpose, specially considering how our Natives are considerably smarter than your average Iberian, and it takes a single trip to the Amazon and a conversation with the local tribes to come to that conclusion.
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>>74897266

no

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