Reminder that being vegan is the ultimate red pill. Nothing is more degenerate than eating another animals flesh
>>74881193
How're the hallucinations?
Because eating the organism that is responsible for creating the air we breathe is any better than eating flesh.
>>74881193
how much broccoli is 100 calories?
100 calories is like a pound of broccoli vs a few bites of steak.
>>74881513
about 2 stalks
>>74881193
I always love this image.
>States grams of protein per 100 calories.
>doesn't state amount of either required for 100 calories.
It's almost like you can eat the same amount of each and get more protein from the broccoli xD
>>74881193
If society collapsed and you had to live in the woods/nature, tell me animal meat & fat wont be a large part of your diet, faggot.
>>74881513
a large dinner plate full, give or take. It's not an insane amount but it's a fairly large portion.
>all protein is the same
already you fail.
>>74881644
I really do not want to be farting all the god damn time.
1. Contrary to the pseudoscience of alternative medicine, humans need to eat meat in order to be healthy.
2. Speciesism is intuitively wrong. We don't care about the interest of fellow humans because they look like us. We don't care about the interests of fellow humans because they feel pain like us. We care about the interests of humans because there are people inside of humans. There is someone experiencing reality from the perspective of every human being. This is not the case with other animals therefore their interests don't matter.
>>74881193
Reminder that we evolved from cooked meat
Sorry i have other shit to do than to chew Broccolli for several hours to get an amount of protein equivalent to a single cut of meat
>>74881193
>Pajeet moves to Canada
>still worships a fucking cow
>>74881675
so If I wanted to hit my protien macro's as a 200+lb man I would need to eat something like 19 plates full of broccoli. Fuck that I'm not a cow I don't have all fucking day to chew that shit.
>>74881193
https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
100 calories of broiled beef, top sirloin steak has exactly 11.08 grams of protein and 100 calories of chopped, raw broccoli has exactly 8.29.
>>74881736
you could eat other foods which will complete the proteins, but it's still going to be a ludicrous portion of vegetables
>>74881193
You can't stop me eating meat you fucking faggot.
It's tasty as fuck.
>>74881193
>Nothing is more beta than only eating vegetables.
FTFY
>>74881193
But I like my food to taste like violence, and beef especially beef.
>>74881193
White people ate meat and drowned it with beer and they conquered the world.
Coincidentally, ''civilizations'' that ate sticks and roots and washed it all down with water au human waste are among the most primitive bunch of cave dwellers in modern society.
Pork moistened with blood doused on coal with good hearty beer quenched the hunger of conquerors. Grass and gravel barely sated the hunger of persons barely classified as homo sapiens.
>>74881193
>with none of the violence
>implying plants don't have feelings
get out broccoli murderer!!!!
reeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
>>74881908
Yep, that's a rough estimate but just about.
I love broccoli and use it in a bunch of meals. I'll even cook vegetarian stuff just for health/financial purposes sometimes, but cutting meat out of your diet as a whole is retarded. Vegans are all the more stupid because
>But what about the milk's feelings?!
>Chickens don't lay eggs unless you tell them too, I swear!
Retards.
And how much B12 is in 100 calories of broccoli?
>>74881193
>Been eating animal flesh for thousands of years
>tastes yummy
>broccoli doesn't taste yummy
OP, I hereby conclude you are a massive faggot
Who /tuna/ here?
>inb4 muh mercury shills trying to deprive people of low calorie, high protein, cheap, omega-3 super food
>>74881193
This one is so old but whatever, you are Canadian so you are a cuck by nature.
Next time use Quinoa or another worthy example.
Enjoy your low test fuckboy.
>>74881193
why is it degenerate OP animals are meant for eating thats why theyre animals why are you ashamed of yourself for eating an animal its not the animal thats suffering if you eat it its you thats suffering if you dont eat it animals are meant for eating by humans and smaller animals are meant for raising by animals its just the circle of life evolution
Daily reminder that vegetarianism/veganism is a Masonic/Rosicrucian cleansing rite. It has only spiritual significance and was never meant to be practiced by someone not engaged in these disciplines.
Franz Bardon, one of the greates magicians ever says it should ever be employed in preparation for a limited amount of time.
It's medicinal, not dietary.
>>74881193
>Nothing is more degenerate than eating another animals flesh
How about it's milk? Or semen?
>>74882181
Tuna and chicken here all day
>>74882181
Tuna is nice for sandwiches but I can't eat it all the time. Tuna salad is a fucking fantastic diet food though. Definitely top tier fish.
>>74882181
>being a fishcuck
>not grilling strips of deer with a side dish of sausage on an open fire
>>74882181
Fucking love toasted tuna sandwiches.
>>74881513
>>74881675
>>74881193
About 300g (fuckloads).
Also, 100 calories of broccoli actually has only 8.4g of protein, while 100 calories of "beef" actually has 10 grams (or more, if it's lean) of protein, while also having superior micronutrient composition and tasting way fucking better.
As always, vegans lie like fuck about all of their "facts" and are completely delusional about how unhealthy and unfeasible veganism is.
>>74882181
Eating some ahi tuna right now.
>Broccoli
>Per 100 calories
Do you have any fucking idea how much Broccoli that is? That's like 2 huge fucking bowls full. It would take you hours to down all that, not to mention you would be farting all day long. And you have to remember you need that protein every day, so are people really prepared to eat 2 fucking stalks of broccoli every day just because they don't want to eat an animal that was only bred for the sole purpose of being eaten? I mean they do realize these aren't innocent wild caught animals, these are animals that would only exist because people bred the animals to do so.
Now all that said, I can respect someone wanting to be a vegan if they don't try pushing their retard on me. There's nothing wrong with being compassionate and caring about animals, but they really should realize that humans are meant to consume them as energy, much like wolfs, or tigers will do the same regardless of what you do, that animal will die in the end. In fact it would probably be more humane to let a person eat it, rather then it being killed and mauled alive by a tiger or something.
>>74881193
Why are vegans almost exclusively liberal?
>>74881193
First of all, plants are responsible for creating the air we breath.
Second, plants can feel pain, this has been proven and there is some evidence that sufficient quantities of plants develop nerve networks and communicate with one another when attacked / danger is close.
Plants are animals of a different stripe, they want to live, spread their seeds, literally and pass on their genetics.
They are evolving.
Nothing on earth can eat without killing something else, or feeding from what has already been killed.
Plants need fertile soil, this fertility comes from death, shit and age.
SORRY VEGANS..
You just kill and eat things that can't run away.
>>74881193
How many buckets of Broccoli you have to eat to get 100 calories?
>>74881621
yes, fuck this graph
>>74882136
>Chickens don't lay eggs unless you tell them too, I swear!
This cracks me up the most.
I will explain to people that they lay eggs regardless and they look at me like I'm the crazy one.
I swear I hate people who don't know how farm animals work.
>dude broccoli lmao
fair enough, but you would need to eat kilograms of broccoli every day to get the same amount of protein
>>74881193
Why not both?
Vegetables are god-tier but so is meat, especially poultry and fish.
>>74882307
nothing better than fresh game. Venison is patrician tier. DEER LIVER AND ONIONS FRIED IN BUTTER IS MY FAV F_A_M
There is a certain B vitamin that is either not available in plant sources or not enough to justify to becoming vegan. I can't remember which.
Veganism, if you really think about it, is eurocentric/anti-diversity. Many people's culture revolves around meals with meats. Vegans, who are mostly leftests, are ironically White privilege incarnate.
Veganism is also anti-poor. And not everybody can afford to eat vegan. For the working poor, hamburger is an inexpensive compared to vegetables and fruits.
Veganism is anti-human in that it disregards the species dependence on meat for subsistence all over the world. It it also ignores the fact that meat was possibly one of the means humans as a species evolved to grow bigger brains.
>>74881453
Not eating animals → Decreases need for large farms → Less animals → Less things breathing air
More demand for plants → More plants → More things photosynthesizing
Your argument is invalid.
>>74881193
>>74881644
>>74881513
Let's how much protein each contains per ounce shall we?
>>74881193
Superfaggot.
>>74881193
Threadly reminder that if we stopped eating animals we wouldn't have many animals left in the same way that as we stopped using horses the horse population fell dramatically.
Threadly reminder that the fertilizer used to grow plants is produced by animals. The vast majority of this is by animals we either eat or eat products of.
Threadly reminder that if everyone was vegan the human race wouldn't be able to support the population we have today.
Threadly reminder that vegans think these reminders are not problematic and should in fact be reality.
>one or the other
why not both? sausgae with broccoli is fucking majestic.
>>74881193
but how much protein per volume?
What is this bullshit per calories?
wow
Im now a #veganmissle
>>74882136
To be fair, the dairy industry, and to a lesser extent eggs, produces a lot of dead animals. Not only are knackered dairy cows killed off fairly young, but male calves are either sent off for beef/veal or are killed pretty much at birth. They're being relatively logical for a change.
>>74881193
>>74881821
Reminder that you are a faggot that has no idea what he is talking about
>>74881193
>insulting million years of glorious rules of nature
These people should be fed to swines, fucking disgusting pieces of shit, you convince yourself you're playing the holier than thou savior of the planet but instead you insult literally everything that nature has made
I'll eat your babies, scum
>it's another "vegans lie about nutrition info" episode
I’ve seen this idiotic meme repeated many times, but the primary source of this stupid—see also: delusional, ludicrous, and absurd—notion seems to be Dr. Joel Furhman. My mom—bless her little osteoporotic soul—keeps his books down at the beach cottage. I don’t think she does it to taunt me, but you never know. I was a bad kid, and payback may be in order. My family has forbidden me to read Dr. Furhman’s books, to pick them up, or to even glance at the covers because the resulting full-on nutrition-rant kills everybody’s beach buzz.
>>74881193
>source isn't an ag university or FDA
into the trash
>>74881193
What are amino acids and vitamin B12?
It's kind of a simple fact that the ideal human diet is mostly plant-based. Slaughterhouses and factories are cancerous, but we're too far in to stop now. Hopefully we can start raising and eating insects soon (entomophagy).
If only we could live as we once did; cultivate edible plants and catch wild animals. There are too many people on earth for that though... Mass genocide, anyone?
>>74881779
>not eating 30 stalks of brocolli and 11 heads of lettuce for dinner
>>74881193
You need to eat more broccoli to get to 100 calories though...
>>74881193
>no vitamin b12
Enjoy your heart problems
Its a well known fact that the vegan diet is terrible, you should also have SOME animal products, even a glass of milk a day.
Don't get me started on vegans, they are a joke.
Lots of love
A guy with a (human) nutrition degree, who knows more than you
>>74881920
Vegetables do not contain some of the necessary amino acids, meat can provide. And for the most part, those on the vegan diet always seem to look completely drained and malnourished, even when on a "balanced" program.
>>74881417
FPBP
>>74881417
>How're the hallucinations?
Kek the brain is too foggy and fucked from lack of animal fats to even recollect.
Ultimate redpill?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>74881193
>eating a truckfull of broccoli to get a third of a steaks worth of protein
On the USDA’s Nutrition Database, 100 grams of broccoli has 2.82 grams of protein. 100 grams of steak has 34 grams. According to Self Nutrition Data, 100 grams of broccoli has 3 grams of protein, while 100 grams of top sirloin has 29 grams.
/whoooosh capt. flies away =DD amirite guys
>>74882862
>live as we once
I hate this meme.
Time when humans were forging for berries and roots wasn't the time when civilization flourished.
There is little reason to argue health benefits/detriments in this.
I place non-human animals at much lower value than my own species. There's no need to inflict pain on them needlessly, out of malicious desire.
But I don't think I'll ever be able to be comfortable with the fact that there are sizable populations of people literally believing that human and animal (mostly mammal, and mostly QT mammal) lives are of equal inherent value.
It terrifies me. Where's the fucking loyalty to species for fuck sake?
>>74881193
Vegan here, can confirm
>>74881193
Wow you sure convinced me. I am now a #veganvagina
>>74882655
kek someone needs to post the webm of that dog attacking a lattuce.
>>74882862
Pushing the bugs meme
I WONDER WHO COULD BE BEHIND THIS POST....CHAIM
Today I ate pan-seared salmon with steamed broccoli
You should mix things up and eat diversely
>>74882181
I would if I could, if some decent tuna steaks were not expensive as fuck. Fuck the can shit, I'd rather just buy some chicken or pork on sale and do something interesting with it.
>>74881193
>vegan
>not fruitarian
pleb detected
>>74881193
I fucked your mother cunt
>>74881193
meat is heavier .. soo have fun eating buckets of rabbit food to get the same amount of protein of an average steak. Dont get me wrong i like greens but your "redpill" is bullshit and you know it.
>>74881193
That image is BS though. Broccoli proteins are NOT the same quality as beef proteins. Night and day.
>>74882655
doubles and a vintage meme. This is an excellent year, 2005? Sublime.
>>74883141
I had whale and seagull eggs.
>>74883061
many other large apes eat plantbased food. Not just brazilians.
>>74882274
Tell me more please.
>>74881193
>per 100 calories
>not per 100 grams
I'LL TAKE MISLEADING AS FUCK DATA FOR £500 PLEASE
Calories per 100g of brocolli: 31
3.7g protein per 100g
100/31 = 3.2
3.7*3.2 = 11.9g protein in 100kcal/320g of brocolli
1oz serving of brocolli = 28g, 320/28 = 11.4 servings of brocolli for 11.9g of protein
Protein in 187kcal/100g lean steak = 29.81
29.81/11.9 = 2.505
100/2.505 = 39.92
So there is as much protein in 39.9g of lean steak as there is in 320g of brocolli.
gg vegetarians
>>74883079
>Killing plants is okay because I can't empathize with them.
>>74883042
The irony is that Humans lived for many millennia eating meat as their primary source of nutrition before the last few millennia eating plants after learning how to farm effectively.
>>74882377
Liberalism = guilt
Veganism is the natural dietary outcome of a person who feels inherently guilty.
>>74883359
Amazing.
>>74883359
You da real MVP!
>>74882944
Sorta, but b-12 deficiency is more in line with anemia and neurological problems. And a lot of vegan diets horrifically lack B12.
>>74881193
Yeah, and cotton is pure carbonhydrate. Good luck eating it faggot.
Actually, are your liberals that stupid, or is it american education?
>>74881193
Go die on a mountain.
>>74881193
You need to reference more than just the website.
Like if I did a research paper on how your mom is a sleazy whore and just referenced www.wikipedia.org
>>74882527
>I don't understand ecosystems.
the post.
The only bad thing about meat occurs when you grill at super high heats.
Fish is good but gotta be careful of mercury
Personally I tAke an algae oil supplement every day for omega 3s
>>74883468
#plantshavefeelingstoo
>>74881193
animal protein is far easier for your body to digest
>>74883086
Lol who dat
>>74883530
So you have to be a vegan to become a vegan?
>>74882527
>smaller farms
Actually takes more acreage to grow plant based food for animals than throwing a chicken in a pen and letting it eat at will, or throwing a pig into a barn and feeding it at will.
Factory animal farms may fall off, but you'd still have to increase acreage of plant based food if you want to feed the world. Also, what happens when locusts swarms happen or Deer start cutting into your precious corn? You gonna kill them or not?
>>74883359
Yeah, and also the quality of the proteins are not the same. You would need way more 'broccoli proteins' than 'steak proteins'
>>74881193
But does broccoli give you all of the essential amino acids?
>>74882377
Not in Russia
https://youtu.be/0XnsNgkXpck
>>74881193
The Department of Agriculture says 100 calories of beef and broccoli have 11 and 8 grams of protein respectively.
Also broccoli has less than a gram of protein per ounce while beef has over five.
>>74883689
>>74883694
yeah, this
>>74881417
stop hallucinating.
>>74881193
>leaf
>>74883042
Try reading more closely. I specified that we were, in those times, cultivating plants. Cultivating. Not foraging.
>>74883141
Mmm that sounds delicious.
My folks did some bratwurst, onions, salmon, asparagus, and corn for their Sunday grill
>>74881193
> Woman Trying to Prove ‘Vegans Can Do Anything’ Dies of Altitude Sickness on Mount Everest
http://time.com/4344556/mount-everest-death-climbing-vegan/
Your kind is weak, your kind will not survive, your kind has no future.
>>74883591
>The only bad thing about meat occurs when you grill at super high heats.
pretty much this, extremely denatured and burnt/oxidised proteins (like from flame-grilled or barbecued meats) is known to be relatively carcinogenic and inflammatory on the gut.
so save that shit as an occasional treat
>>74883619
Along with with the iron that comes in meat products as well, so there is a reduced risk for anemia.
>>74883679
Or think about all the little critters that get killed by Harvester, because we want some grain/corn.
Vegans kill just as many animals as non-vegan, directly and indirectly!
>>74882639
>produces a lot of dead animals
so? It's not as if these dead animals are being tossed into a pit and left to rot. A young dairy cow can be butchered and eaten, even old dairy cows (whose meat would be gamey and tough) meat can be used for dog food and Taco Bell ground beef. It's pretty rare that an animal carcass in a commercial farm goes to waste.
>>74883875
They can't even feed their babies breast milk without killing them.
>>74883042
>Civilization flourished
>destroying the planet
>creating degenerates
But muh animu
>>74881193
I eat both red meat and broccoli. Sometimes even together.
Come at me niggers.
Pretty sure I'd eat people if there were no animals left
I eat so god damn much meat. Right now spagetti and grounded beef. Tons of red meat, tons chicken, tons of fish. Eat eat eat eat eat.
and not to mention
Whale
Dat's the best, but expensive + I need a chick to make it for me or it tastes like cod oil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVAttAfkZ1I
>>74883484
It's a resurgence of America's guilt culture mixed with our Puritanical background.
Has anybody here seen Earthlings?
I weep for my countrymen
>>74881193
Vegetarian protines are basicly inacessible to the body. You need to eat like 5 times the amount to get what you can easily get from meat.
Not eating meat is absolutely stupid outside maybe avoiding pig and maybe chicken-meat Pig is the worst kind by a fair marigin, sadly because I love it's taste and it's really culturaly relevant.
>>74883932
Very true. I've seen many rabbits, fawns, turkeys killed in swathers and combines in my day.
>>74881193
Piss off leaf, the sweet savory goodness of an all-American burger will forever trump the pansy lifestyle of a vegan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trZlvpLihHk
>>74881193
Vegans seem to be forgetting that most proteins from vegetables are often incomplete protein. Incomplete protein are useless if they are not complimented to form complete protein. Uneducated vegans often don't know this and they end up being quite deficient in some nutrients, especially protein. Most of them don't even know how to supplement properly, leading to continued deficiency and maybe even excess of some things, which is bad. Eating broccoli and taking multivitamins aren't enough.
Here's a primer for those unfamiliar
http://www.builtlean.com/2012/10/03/complete-vs-incomplete-protein-sources/
You'd have to eat all sorts of plant protein sources to get what you need, whereas you only need to eat a few animal-based protein sources to get the same. It's much more efficient to just eat animal-based protein sources.
For instance, the pic related. Beef is more packed with calories than broccoli that you'd have to eat a bowl (or bowls) of broccoli to get the same amount of protein as eating a decent-sized steak. And you also have to eat other plant-based protein to complement the broccoli because it is incomplete protein.
>ITT, the new BBC spam
>>74883664
Well, it often manifests as neuropathy, but likely progresses into actual neurological deficit, as the myelin sheath depend on b12 to be synthesizes, which is essential for many nerves.
If you don't eat your meats, you will end up like a numale swedish faggot
>>74883484
I am a vegan because I see no harm in doing away with meat and animal products. It helps with the environment, too.
+Weigh less
+Look better
+Feel better
+Decreased likeliness of many diseases
+Sick less often
+Feel more in touch with my ancestors
No downsides for me, really.
>>74881193
Eating a dead cow is eating one dead cow.
Eating plants is eating dead mice, rats, bugs, dear, pigs, and any other pest that can, and will fuck up your crops.
As a matter of fact, the FDA allows for a certain PPM of dead animal in all your so-called "vegan" food products.
Mmmmm veggie burger? More like MMMMMMMMMMMM DEAD RAT! YUM!
Now look at pic related, and realize how fucking stupid you are.
>>74884014
Isnt that a vegan propaganda movie?
>>74883582
>implying that we don't control the population of farm animals
Ignorance, the post.
>>74882655
What's the vegans plan for Fido? Humans might be able to "live" off a brocoli based diet, but the family dog sure can't long term. Cat's in particular which liberal women are so fond of, are true carnivores. If there circlejerk fantasy comes true and humans stop eating meat, how will we feed the millions of pets who rely on the meat industry as well?
>>74884194
-20 cocks in the ass
You would have to eat a pound of broccoli to get the protein from one steak. Our bodies weren't meant to digest leaves. There's nothing but vitamins and minerals in vegetables, no calories, no protein. So just take vitamins and spend your money on actual food instead of leaves.
>>74884194
The only side effect is sounding like a massive faggot.
>>74884194
Looks like the b12 deficiency is already hitting you. Stop being a faggot and get a steak
>>74884194
>helps the enviroment
Kek
>>74884339
Due to the high fiber and water content of Broccoli it actually makes a great side dish or low calorie snack between meals to stem cravings and lose weight.
It's a great vegetable.
>>74882330
Fuck off cunt don't speak ill of broccoli it's a god tier vegetable. Just because it can't replace meat it doesn't mean it's not worth eating.
>>74882181
Crack the can open, drain it and fill it back up with hot sauce. 10/10
>>74882307
>tight with butcher
>guy makes pork deer mix super coarse
>spicy as fuck
>only charges a portion of meat I give him
You have deers in Eesti?
>>74884224
Thanks for that pic. Here's a rare pepe.
>>74883679
In the room it takes to allow 5 cows to graze, I can grow ~100 pounds of various veggies. It takes less water to water a tree, than it takes to raise a cow/chicken/pig/et cetera.
What happens when a cow breaks into your garden? Do you kill it? No. You shoo it off. Why couldn't I do the same thing for deer?
>>74884238
A quick google search says it's a "muh animal rights" movie.
>>74884592
May I save this?
>>74884502
It's how I handle my diet in general. Buy whatever meat is on sale, dress it up nicely, and have a salad with it as a side dish to go with it. Get all the plan based nutrients I need, along with all that yummy and delicious meat based nutrients.
Dropped pounds fast, and maintaining a normal BMI when I can't exorcise.
>>74884238
Sort of. It's more than just veganism, though. Covers animal abuse required to entertain people at Seaworld/Carnivals, etc. Covers animal products. It's designed to guilt you into becoming a vegan, obviously.
Highly effective film. I don't think I'll ever go full vegan, but after watching it, I don't ever want to eat veal, buy fox coat jackets, or go to any kind of animal show.
All of the footage was real and disturbing too, so even if it may seem like propaganda, everything actually happened and was real. Hard to say how prevalent it truly is, but it was very disturbing
>>74884286
Well, PETA slaughters them.
>>74884194
>+Weigh less
There are a lot of vegan that are fat, eating sweets all day
>+Look better
You look like hippies and you stink.
You have the same smell like students from china that study in the west, God damn take a shower for once.
>+Feel better
subjective
>+Decreased likeliness of many diseases
Increases likeliness of many other diseases
>+Sick less often
Weak and no endurance
>+Feel more in touch with my ancestors
Your ancestors are dead, you feel dead because you lack protein and vitamins
>>74884194
>+Feel more in touch with my ancestors
Hunting and eating flesh is THE main thing mankind is made for.
The only reason for bipedal, upright walking is that your viscerals don't hit against your braething apperatus like a steamhammer while running. Also we have hairless skin so our body can cool by swaeting - hairless skin is basically our huge main cooland system. Therefore humans can run extremely long dictances at a speed which forces quadrupedal animals to run fast/sprint. without having to stop like those animals.
Quadrupedal animals cool their metabolsim via panting, which they can't do while running since their viscreals hit against their phrenic like a steam hammer. So at some point they cannot continue to run away further because they suffur from overheating and heatstroke.
The animal then just stands there lethargically and can be easily ended.
Humans are cursorial hunters by design.
It doesn't matter if you use a spear, a bow or a rifle or other strategies than cursorial hunting. We are hunters and flesh eaters and will always be.
Which means that you are a brainfucked cucked retard.
>>74884669
Yes.
The whole idea was to crash the pepe market, anyways.
>>74883933
Personally I agree, but vegans tend to be big on the whole not killing animals thing so not eating dairy or eggs follows logically despite the fact that no animals are killed directly in their production.
>>74884502
Fiber and water. What does that mean? It means it's nothing but water and indigestible material. Fiber is anything your body can't digest. When I eat leaves I just poop them out whole and there's a bunch of leaves floating in toilet
Alot of good that does me. It has no nutrition besides vitamins.
>>74884669
No.
>wanting to eat 100g of broccoli
pls end yourself
>not wanting this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmTzdMHu5KU
>>74884051
>Not eating meat is absolutely stupid outside maybe avoiding pig
> avoiding pig
t. Achmed Abdulson
>>74881193
yeah, but broccoli tastes like ass
>>74884734
>tfw we used to run our meat to death
I will never not find that hilarious and awesome at the same time.
>>74884867
Not when it's smothered in Velveeta.
>>74884809
I am not disagreeing. I am saying it's a great supplement to a meat based dinner and it makes a great snack. It gives your stomach a full feeling and stops a lot of people from snacking. Same reason why drinking a lot of water keeps you hydrated and also gives people a feeling of being full.
Not sure how that isn't clear. Take it up with nutritionists if you can't understand that.
>>74881513
>>74881644
>>74881675
>>74882330
>>74882549
And that's assuming you were even able to fully digest it. You would need to cook the broccoli to get anywhere close to the full nutritional value, and then you're denaturing the proteins in the process (more so than if you're charring the outside of a steak).
There's a reason why humans were able to develop such large brains, and that reason is that we evolved with a significant amount of meat and fish consumption in our diets -- it's all about nutritional density and bioavailability. Our ancestors and people in traditional cultures were much more in tune with consuming organ meats as well -- there is literally nothing with greater nutrient density.
Good luck getting adequate B12 as a vegan. And if you happen to have certain very common gene mutations (MTHFR), you'll find that virtually all of the added B12 (cyanocobalamin) and synthetic folic acid in foods and supplements cannot be processed by your body at all. And those are just the ones we know about today.
>>74884642
Your stomach cant digest everything, most of the ~100 veggies will be useless for you.
A cow could eat this useless veggie and convert it into meat.
>>74884951
Or steamed to absolute perfection, with some lemon squeeze
>>74884926
I know, but it is what we used to do. Evolutionary biology proved it.
>>74884990
Steaming broccoli in a strainer preserves a good deal of its nutritional value.
>>74884642
>Why couldn't I do the same thing for deer?
How do you live in the US and not know anyfucking thing about deer? Are you Hawaiian, or did you never leave the city?
Deer are assholes, fuck deer.
>>74881193
This means nothing, because the calorie density is not taken into account. Notice that the figures do not indicate protein per unit volume, because the calorie density of broccoli is so small you would have to eat a much greater volume of broccoli than steak to get to the 100 calories. In one bite of steak vs broccoli, you will get much more protein in the steak bite.
>>74884697
>Propaganda
While technically true I don't like that word because it has connotations of bending the facts to your opinions. If you show real footage that's not bending the facts, it's the plain truth.
That's the same reason why I don't think clips of immigrants breaking stuff and acting like monkeys is propaganda. It's just showing it like it is.
Animal shows and most zoos are utterly disgusting, and that's coming from someone who can't go two days without meat. Inflicting pain to someone weaker for the sake of money and paying someone to inflict pain on someone weaker for the sake of a few minutes of entertainment is very uncivilised.
>>74883875
>one person fails
Have you seen the some of the hardcore vegans that lift waits. Their muscles look much more healthy than those who eat meat.
>~280 recorded people have died climbing the mountain, most ate meat.
That must mean that meat eaters are far less capable than vegans! Your logic makes no sense, taking an isolated case in a large situation is ridiculous.
>>74884642
A cow belongs to a farmer. Of course you wont kill it you massive retard.
>100 pounds of veggies vs literally thousands of pounds of meat on leg with a much, much higher protein content
Even accounting for the years necessary to raise a cow for its meat, you're just painting yourself as an idiot here.
>>74885089
I know, just wanted to comment
>>74881193
This makes me want a tasty steak
>>74884926
We also have very fine lungs compared to most mammals.
>>74881193
enjoy your iron deficiency and anemia, you limp-wristed faggot.
not being constrained by morality and group thinking is the ultimate redpill. That's why most vegans are the same ilk as feminists, commies, and the rest of the hippie degenerate scum
>>74884809
Well I suppose you don't need fibre when you're taking your weight loss pills and all that shit just flows out of you.
>>74885081
I like it raw dipped in vinegar. Don't be a faggot
>>74881513
I eat frozen broccoli florets a lot. An entire package (about 2.5 cups in volume) is 120 calories. You could never meet protein demands with broccoli alone. You'd be way too full. Plus you wouldn't get all the necessary amino acids.
>>74885212
That i did not know. Would have assumed there were other animals with much more efficient respiratory systems. Would you say it has something to do with our bipedal nature?
>>74884642
you don't kill the cow because it's likely someones $2000+ property. the deer is free food.
Rate my dinner!
>>74884642
>5 cows
Let's actually look at this meme. So depending on your area and annual rain fall you get so much grass per acre. So in very dry areas where these crops won't grow without irrigation from water from somewhere else, it can be anywhere from 5-40 acres. Think Texas, west Oklahoma, West Nebraska, Wyoming, Colorado, South/North Dakota, East Washington.
Can't grow your precious veggies in these areas.
You can also graze cattle in areas that are too rocky, too short a growing season, or too rough of terrain for proper crops. Think Missouri, East oklahoma, Montana.
You can't grow veggies in those areas.
So cattle are already on land that's not suited to grow veggies. Your meme is outdated.
Also, Across your THOUSANDS of acres of hilly crop ground, plus managing your business and kids through the summer, you don't have time to walk through 7 foot corn and shoo all the pests away.
Fuck off you dumb city slicker and eat your kebabs like a good muslim.
>>74885424
Looks like something I'd make and eat as one of my lunches or dinners. 8/10
>>74884333
>>74884421
>>74884477
Hilarious and original.
False ad hominem isn't an argument.
>>74885424
7/10. Mostly because I skipped lunch.
>>74881453
80% of the oxygen on Earth is produced by marine algae. The amount produced by edible plants is beyond insignificant.
>>74885424
how many good boy points did those tendies cost?
>>74885424
Looks good, but don't you eat the steams?
>>74885424
9/10
Needs more salt.
>>74885535
>Hilarious and original.
Thanks. I thought you would like it, reddit.
>>74882358
I really love farm animals and think they're so cute and innocent. I wonder what would happen if we just released them all tomorrow.
I know they would be preyed upon by wolves/big cats and stuff, but I wonder if over time they would evolve to be self sufficient and lead happy lives in the wild.
Not trying to be a faggot, but I wish there was a way to eat meat without any animal suffering. Knowing there's animals in cages or worse as we sit here really gets me down. I think about it all the time and no matter how much I try to rationalize it, it still doesn't make me feel any better about it.
>>74885592
I'd assume the sauce contains enough salt as is.
>>74885424
Fatass/10
All that empty sugar on your chicken. Why? You are the reason the US is so fat. At least your portions are reasonable.
>>74885154
>vegans that lift waits.
They go full vegan after gaining the muscle mass.
1. Gain muscles
2. Tell everyone you are full vegan
3. sell vegan products to manlet vegans
4 profit
>That must mean that meat eaters are far less capable than vegans!
No vegan ever climbed to the peek of the mountain, but a lot of meat eaters did. checkmate
>>74884194
>+Feel more in touch with my ancestors
Unless your ancestors were cows, I'm pretty sure you'd be more in touch with your ancestors if you hunted and fished too. Because that's what they did. They were omnivores.
>>74885505
5-40 acres PER cow. So you meme is a range of 25 acres to 200 acres. btw
>>74885326
Veganism is just being morally vapid as is the rest of typical degenerate virtue signaling behavior.
You can't be vegan unless you live in a dirt hut, wear grass skirts and only eat what you pick off of trees and pull from the ground.
Just like you can't be both Pro-Islam, and Pro-LGBT.
I would call these people stupid, but it's a pointless gesture. They're not vegans because they care about the animals, they're vegans because it's a piss easy way to pretend to be righteous about something. Were it not worrying about the fuzzy little animals, they'd be latched onto something else as equally lethargic, and logically bankrupt.
>>74884725
Severely underrated post. Thanks Hans now I didn't have to post my self
>>74884194
You're a faggot. "Feel more in touch with my ancestors"... fucking americans.. good b8 though
>>74885379
Actually, I do believe most birds still beat us out at that. Their respitory system is a loop, while ours is 2 way. We can't expel all the air from our lungs, but birds can.
I don't know how it would be directly because of our being bipeds, but does feed into the whole endurance thing we got going on.
>>74885668
Cows are literally dumb as shit. I doubt they would last two weeks without minerals that farmers gave them. It's an obligation to raise them for food now.
>>74885742
I think he means he feels his dad's dick.
>>74884725
>There are a lot of vegan that are fat, eating sweets all day
There are even more meat-eaters which are unhealthy.
>You look like hippies and you stink.
Every vegan I have met has amazing hygiene
^No "meat sweats"^
>Increases likeliness of many other diseases
Source?
>Weak and no endurance
All of the vegans I have met are very healthy.
>...you feel dead because you lack protein and vitamins
I get more than enough protein and I get all of my vitamins.
>>74882527
And animals will populate more than ever and take up all the air. Your argument is invalid
>>74885573
Cost? Homemade with chicken breasts.
>>74885582
That's how the frozen broccoli came.
>>74885825
Older former farmhand at my family farm reporting in.
I can confirm that cows are dumb as fuck. Sometimes they feign intelligence through instinct.
>>74885424
>literally assrape chicken and cum metric tons of dressings and condiments on it
>but please keep the broccoli raw and untouched by oils eww
Fucking hell I will give you lessons for free at my place but don't do that shit ever again
I am slowly transitioning to a vegan diet... I already gave up chicken, cow, pig... I still eat fish occasionaly, but that is going away too... next stop: vegetarianism
>>74885806
With birds I can see. After all, they likely need some really high amount of oxygen and low CO2 from all of that flying, as I can see it to be a very taxing activity, along with needing that bone on their sternum to help keep themselves, more or less, inflated with air.
>>74885888
>bought into the vitamin meme along with these non-vegan cunts
News flash. You ancestors never worried about vitamins. They ate grains and meats and lived fine. All these fucking vitamins are bullshit.
>>74885095
I live in a rural area, so I understand. However, deer are very scared most of the time. It doesn't take much to shoo them off.
>>74885429
She didn't solely die because she was vegan. She died because she was a woman, although her being vegan contributed to that.
>>74886022
When you transition from eggs to no eggs your faggotry will be complete.
>>74881193
Reminder that a vegan died trying to prove a point yesterday
>>74881193
>2016
>not relying solely on soylent for sustenance
>https://www.soylent.com/
>>74882181
>tuna on pasta
Eternal bulk
>>74886130
I haven't even decided if I want to stay vegetarian or go to full vegan
I buy free range eggs or get them from a farmer I know
I don't find that immoral desu. he treats his hen well
>>74885998
Have you never made buffalo chicken strips?
Dressing? It is breaded and dipped in hot sauce. Mixed a little bit of bbq in it to give it some zang.
>>74885941
I have a "hobby farm". Cows really aren't too bad when you've kept them around for their whole life, and only butcher one steer for food a year and sell off the extras you can't support. My fence is in total disrepair with 2 wires still on it at most and the fuckers still never get out unless I leave the gate open. Cows are dumb, but I love my fucking dumb shits.
>>74882565
[citation needed]
>>74881193
You stupid goyim, meat gives you a different kind of protein AND red meat increases your testosterone level.
>>74885920
We control the population of farms.
>>74885668
-Well, all chicken would die, because cats dont give a fuck.
-If you dont milk cows, they will feel unbearable pain and will probably die to a infections.
-Pigs will life like rats.
-Animals will shit on the streets, block the roads and your garbage will stay on the street.
-Children cant play outside, to dangerous
-Whole city will stink like shit and piss
Just imagine a big city in the 14th century
>>74886220
I don't even watch my diet but I buy free range eggs as well (although the term is pretty loose) not because I give a fuck because I find they taste way better and are easier to work with.
Yeah they cost me about $3.00 extra, but fuck it.
>>74886067
>They ate grains
Grains were very rarely eaten by humans until relatively recently in Human History. Grain based diets were impossible until the invention of farming.
For the fast majority of human history we ate meat, nuts and fruits pretty much exclusively. And mostly meat. It depends on location but most paleolithic peoples got something like 80% of their calories from meat.
>>74881193
Broccoli is shit kill yourself.
Vegans can't even have cheese sauce on their broccoli. What stupid religion Veganism is.
>>74881648
It's also not true.
Broccoli is 7g protein/100 kCal
Beef is 14g protein/100 kCal
>>74886047
Now that I think about it, I wonder how fish stack up. I know reptiles and amphibians are garbage tier.
>humans shouldn't eat meat because our teeth aren't designed to eat it!
>completely ignores the fact that we also don't have the multi-chambered stomachs necessary to properly digest green plants
what do vegans mean by this?
>>74881779
Vegans BTFO by IBS.
IBS is best treated by low-FODMAP diet.
Low-FODMAP diet reduces amount of long chain sugars.
No more fructose. No more almond meal. Reduced intake of some cereals (rice and corn still fine). Reduced intake of legumes.
Only things not limited by low-FODMAP = meat, eggs, and seasoned dairy products.
>>74886171
>Year 2025
>Automation, AI, forces states to implement a universal guaranteed basic income for everyone
>Quit job
>Go back to full NEET
>Live only on Soylent
>Almost never poo or fart
>Spend days Internetting, reading books, meditating
That will be the day.
>>74881193
>implying plants aren't some form of intelligent creature themselves
>>74886440
True, but it still doesn't prove the Vitamin/Mineral meme that everyone bought.
>>74886481
Broccoli is fucking delicious nigger.
Plus dat regularity
>>74885920
farm animals wont be able to populate if we dont breed them
they ve lost their ability to live in the nature
>>74886022
Remember, when you suck off your gay friends, dont swallow
>>74886224
Meat is a holy ingredient meant to be tasted with only just the slight dressing or sauce it itself calls for on its own, if it does call for it to begin with. Do you perhaps make love to a woman with clothes, snorkel and several pieces of armor on?
>>74882181
It's actually pretty low in omega-3 compared to other fish.
Sardines and herring are where it's at
>>74881193
How much B12 is in that Broccoli?
So far ITT I have not seen a single cohesive argument from people that CHOOSE to eat meat.
You get so fucking butthurt and triggered from vegan statistics and facts that you just resort to pathetic attempts at "humor" to remove the cognative distance from being proven wrong thread after fucking thread.
But no, I can already picture the half-assed replies right now. the "mm, bacons" and the "Meat is delicious!" replies from people too ignorant to look past their own selfishness
>>74881663
Wait until Trump is voted, you will experience it first hand!
>>74881193
How many grams (spoiler, kilograms) of Broccoli do I need to eat to get 100 calories worth?
Fucking Vegans using Broccoli for their propaganda. If you're going to inadvertently set people against vegetables at least use a shitty one like cauliflower.
>>74882181
I saw some thread on fit a while back where a guy recollected a time when he ate tuna for every meal. eventually he determined that his mood swings were caused by mercury poisoning and stopped. tho the lack of studies about how much tuna is too much seemes quite odd.
>>74881193
>what is biological value
>>74882274
>It's medicinal, not dietary.
Academic literature review on Crohn's disease says once you send it into remission with steroids you can keep the inflammation low with:
>mostly lacto-ovo-vegetarian diet
>with lean meat (chicken) once a week
>fish is okay
But NOT a vetan diet.
And anyway diet is not the cure. It just eases symptoms
If I wanted to be a skinny skeleton I would go vegan, but I'd rather be strong than weak.
Amerkanski can't into soup and stew, it makes me sad family.
