Ask a member of the New Communist Party of the Netherlands anything.
FAQ
>What's your personal information?
Age: 32. Sex: Male. Nationality: Dutch.
>What job do you have?
I am a biomedical laboratory assistant.
>What made you decide to become a communist?
Seeing the injustice and corruption in the world. Realizing that capitalism is the source of the greatest evils in this world. (slave-trade in the past, (child) prostitution now and in the past, illegal drug trade etc all in the name of profit, and of course poverty, homelessness, criminality).
>What kind of economy do you support
I support a plan-economy in general, but with some market aspects on local scale and in food production.
>Are you religious
I am an atheist. I believe all schools should be atheist and the promotion of science should be of the largest importance. Churches, Mosques, Temples, etc, ought to systematically brought down or changed into other buildings, but not all at once. You are free to believe in your mind what you want, but no way can it be organized religion.
Jesus was inherently communist, however, and he is a good ideal to strive for. But organized religion destroyed the original message of Christ and thus organized religion will be destroyed, since it merely serves to keep the masses stupid. Education and rationality is of the highest importance in a communist society, and all members will receive equal and the best education.
>What are your views on immigration?
I am an international communist. That means that I support an international communist world governments. I do not support multiculturalism, because it leads to ethnic conflict and inequality. It is a big misconception that communists support such a thing. Only meek, capitalist leftists do. If you want to know my current views on the refugee crisis, it is a result of capitalism. If we had communism, there would be no such thing in the first place.
>>74863849
Are you the syria general MD?
>>74863849
Faggot.
>>74863849
why not socialism?
>>74863849
>Communist
>wants to forcibly enforce state atheism
Let's see how honest you are. Is it just your mother or both of your parents who are Jews?
>>74863849
Do you look good? Face aesthetics, how tall are you etc.
Are your parenst rich?
How many girls you fucked?
What's your favourite music?
Do you use drugs?
What is the tallest building in the world?
What is the capital city of Brazil?
>>74863849
What happened to the old party?
Why a new one?
>>74863849
Whose side are you going to take in the race war?
>>74864397
Faded away and the members started the Green Left Party.
Some butthurt commies made a new one.
>>74863849
What are your views on marriage?
>>74863849
>>74863849
What have you done to make a more self-sufficient working cla-
>I support an international communist world governments
>international world government
>communist world government
>world government
>government
>communist
Fucking damnit you haven't even read the manifesto
>>74864397
The old party split up in bourgeoisie green-parties and champagne socialist social democratic parties. Meek leftist capitalists who never really were communists in the first place. Probably have never read a book on communism either.
>>74864280
I do a lot of sports and training, quite muscled. Face is OK. Body is much better.
Parents are between lower and middle class.
>How many girls you fucked?
I don't see how this is really relevant but I would say about 22.
>What's your favourite music?
I love classical communist revolutionary music. I also love other classical works in general. Not a fan of modern music.
>Do you use drugs?
If you count coffee as a drug then yes.
>>74863849
>Realizing that capitalism is the source of the greatest evils in this world.
This view basically also aligns with Hitlers reasoning. "The big capitalists" were one of the major ideological enemies. Why have you chosen Communism and not NatSoc?
>>74864667
What's your political compass?
What's your ideology (Stalinist, Trotskyist, Maoist etc.)
>>74864637
Well, you obviously did not. You can't transition from a capitalist society towards a communist society in one step. I think automation will lead to communism in the future, though. If, the capitalists won't use robots to exploit other people, or if, liberal governments will do nothing about growing unemployment because of automation, which will then turn in revolts and revolutions.
>>74864795
I would see myself as an futurist-communist. I do love to immersive myself into classical communist works, but of course I understand that conditions are different now than that what they where 150 years ago.
>>74864698
Hither's national socialism is strictly hierarchical, while in communism all men are equals.
>>74863849
Why are you for jewish supremacy?
Why are you anti-white?
>>74865092
But all men are not equal, that defies human nature. Humans strive to be greater than their peers.
Can you explain how this so called quality would be implemented?
>>74865092
in theory
>>74863849
y r u gay
>>74863849
How do you propose socialist leaders should be elected? Clearly the USSR model didn't work and people had no say in the way their country was run.
>>74865092
>strictly hierarchal
There were caps on how you could use your money and classes were much closer than in Capitalist nations. Still wasn't Communism though.
>>74865092
>"while in communism all men are equals."
Except men are naturally competitive and in nature nothing is equal.
>tfw aussie shit-poster BTFO communism in 5 seconds
>>74864792
What?
>>74864584
The family is the basic unit of society.
>>74863849
Who's your favorite political leader? What do you think of Zizek?
>>74863849
It only sounds good, mate.
Have you ever read an actual economics textbook?
>>74865578
I believe incorporating technology and government is the way forward. The standard leader-people principle is getting outdated.
It would be best if there was some sort of supercomputer running things. But since that is still far too futurist, I would settle with some sort of large, central council that consists of people who've proven themselves to be worthy of statesmanship through education, or, of course, technocrats, scientists, engineers, doctors, who decide what is best to do in their field. I don't believe they should have absolute power like the Politburo, there should be a distinct trias politica.
Well lads, looks like we BTFO him, good job boys. Ask a commie a few basic questions and they are done.
>>74865657
Men shapes nature to his will.
>>74865726
I think Lenin was alright. Sadly he died way to young, and Stalin took over.
>What do you think of Zizek?
*Touches nose*
>>74863849
As noble as your intentions might be, remember that if given a chance, your leadership would betray you and your people and turn into tyrants. Also, their lifestyle would be way more pleasant than the rest of the population.
It happened in history time and time again.
>>74863849
Why haven't you killed yourself?
>>74863849
I do not know whether to laugh or cry. I feel sorry for you.
>>74866747
>Men shapes nature to his will.
What is the nature of the brains plasticity? When a dog is trained to drool at the sound of a bell with Pavlovs technique, why does it make that association and not another?
>>74866888
I have a good job. I enjoy science.
>>74866818
There are many different kind of communists.
I believe one the highest necessities for it to work is a high IQ population.
I also do not inherently believe that all social and political systems currently existing needs to be smashed and destroyed.
I think we will eventually transition to a communist society with automation anyway.
But I would rather have a government that fully acknowledges this and focuses towards that goal (full automation, space exploration, education for all, a little bit like Star Trek.)
Also, it's something that can't be tied to a single country, or it will inherently fail amidst the presence of much more productive capitalist countries. Communism is an international ideology.
>>74863849
How does it feel to align yourself with an ideology responsible for 150 million deaths?
That's worse than Hitler btw.
>>74863849
What is your plan to dissolve the state and how will you ensure that corruption will not stop this from happening.
>>74866747
So then he'll shape nature to his natural will, which is... his natural competitive hierarchical will. It's like you're trying to say people aren't bound to nature and everyone has complete free will. Which is immensely anti-scientific. Man does exactly as he is commanded by his brain chemistry.
I highly recommend reading this book.
http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/eBooks/BOOKS/Russell/Practice%20and%20Theory%20of%20Bolshevism%20Russell.pdf
>>74863849
What do you think about democratic socialism?
And what's your opinion on cultural Marxism?
>>74863849
>I support a plan-economy in general, but with some market aspects on local scale and in food production
>some market aspects
>in food production
Translation: even I am not dumb enough to ever hand farmland over to niggers ever again
>>74866446
So doctors, lawyers, engineers will make the same amount as a garbageman in your ideal communist utopia?
>>74867525
>Nobody agrees with me
>Better recommend them a book!
My girlfriend does this all the time, everytime she tries to change my mind. Are you a woman?
>>74863849
Waarom heb je nog geen zelfmoord gepleegd?
>>74863849
>>What made you decide to become a communist?
>Seeing the injustice and corruption in the world. Realizing that capitalism is the source of the greatest evils in this world. (slave-trade in the past, (child) prostitution now and in the past, illegal drug trade etc all in the name of profit, and of course poverty, homelessness, criminality).
Absolutely fucking typical
>capitalism is bad therefore anything else is better t. Every single fucking leftist ever
>>74867386
no where in that post did you address the corrupted leaders who betray their people for their own personal benefits issue.
>I trust my leaders
this is the first mistake of communism
and whether you like it or not, history agrees with that statement
>>74867604
>democratic socialism?
Current ''democratic socialist'' countries are still very much tied to the stock market and Wall Street. I do not believe such a thing can survive for too long. Theoretic democratic socialism is kind of like saying socialist socialism, because socialism is supposed to be inherently democratic.
>cultural Marxism?
I assume you tie this to cultural relativism? In a communist society this is not the case. There's a lot of culture in a communist society. Everyone must strive to better themselves and everyone around them. Those who do not work shall not eat. Society is one big family. Science, technology and education is what binds us. Suppression of greed, envy, lust, gluttony. To truth be told, we rely heavily on public school indoctrination- there we can create the ideal citizen of the future, the ideal citizen that cares about his fellow citizen and society as much as himself. Communism is a little bit of a humanist religion. So yes, we replace the religion of god in a religion of man.
It's the logical follow up on the French revolution, but strives for true equality and improvement of all. Keep in mind the USSR was socialist. They did many things right in terms of education, science and technology, but they failed in other ways, such as failing to win the propaganda war against the US, and failing to have an open society and a just court-system.
>>74867477
Where is the evidence
>>74863849
Are you in favor of multiculturalism and do you support the Globalist agenda?
>>74867923
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
In a communist society, humility, simplicity, sharing and a life without materialism and the continuous accumulation of things, are seen as virtues. These virtues are taught into our citizens from birth. In a communist society, doctors, lawyers and engineers were given all the basic necessities of life from birth and free education and educational path of their wish from society, and once they are older, they will get what they need from society and they will give what they can to society. The USSR, al be it far from perfect, created the best engineers and scientists in the world. Why do you think NASA still uses Soyuz rockets to this day?
>>74863849
>Nationality: Dutch
are you Dutch or "Dutch"?
have fun convincing people, I bet they'll believe you when you tell them that this time it'll work for sure
if that fails, use the old fashioned way - violence, draconian laws, state terror and coercion
also don't forget central planning, it never fails
>>74869482
Your thread is boring and is now a shitposting thread for anti-communism propaganda.
Do you copy pasa these responses from a word-document or something. They don't address anything really, and are mostly vague rethoric only a retard would fall for.
How does it feel to be the follower of a faulty ideology that fucked in the ass every country who followed it?
inb4 "real communism hasn't been tried"
>>74868366
There is corrupt leadership everywhere.
Do you think your ''democratically elected leaders'' are not corrupt?
>>74868027
I was just sharing information.
>>74864189
My father is Jewish, so what? Both of my parents are secular. I don't see how it's relevant to the discussion.
>>74868921
No, both multiculturalism and current trends of globalism are inherently capitalist. In the deeper, higher inner circles, they are ruled by money. Money, materialism and profit is their only god. They will do anything for profit, including child prostitution (hollywood.)
>>74870034
>Do you think your ''democratically elected leaders'' are not corrupt?
yes I do, which is why I would never give them full power over everything dumbass
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/colonialism-did-not-make-africa-poor/
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/the-wealth-of-colonizers-or-lack-thereof/
One article compares Germany and the UK during the colonial era and other nations. The amount of colonies does not correlate with wealth among wealthiest nations.
>>74863849
>Remember your code name, Agent 56. We shall soon call upon you, blyad.
>>74863849
Why do you serve the Jews? Are you a Jew, or just a useful idiot for their world conquest?
>>74870034
>Jewish
>Secular
Kill yourself OP
>>74870034
Are you aware Marxism is satanic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL94ThnOc28
http://henrymakow.com/2016/01/Frankfurt-School-is-Illuminati-Jewish-Satanism.html
>>74870034
>I was just sharing information.
That's fine. You should know by now when someone says "I recommend reading this book if you want to understand my point of view" is not a way to convince someone, because everyone will take the information differently, because everyone has different opinions. No one can take "I recommend reading this book" seriously, it's like when people use the "literally"
>>74870214
No shit, some lands in Africa have much more (mineral) resources then others. Most German colonies where worthless and only served as statussymbol.
>>74870034
>My father is Jewish, so what? Both of my parents are secular. I don't see how it's relevant to the discussion.
You are not a communist because of any kind of empathy, but becuase you are lead by ethnocentric behaviour. If you were, why are so many dispora jews marxist and so few israelies marxists (for their won country)?
>>74870427
Can't I just recommend a book?
>>74863849
ik hoop voor je dat afgeslacht wordt wanneer onze geert aan de macht is.
>>74870518
Are you saying that my tendency towards communism is genetic ?
>>74870518
>>74870686
There is no such thing as a "genetic Jew" or a "communist Jew" because JUDAISM PREACHES AGAINST LEFTISM and we Jews are NOT A RACE.
>>74870468
You have not read any of the articles, as Germany and many other countries had a higher GPD per capita than England during its colonial height despite having less colonies. There is also the matter of the period after the colonial era were there is not even a connection between GPD per capita (or even GDP PPP), England is poorer than almost any state in the US (GPD adjusted per capita and purchasing power).
It's also far below Finland, which was a colony during that period
>>74863849
My question to you is do you believe in freedom? Should someone in a communist society be allowed to be racist, sexist, xenophobic as long as they don't physically hurt anyone?
>>74870615
Sure you can, but don't expect people to have a same point of view after they've read the book. It came across like you wanted people to read the book, so they'll understand your thoughts- God, I've bit the hook, haven't I...
>>74870882
No, you're lower than that, truly a bastard people.
>>74870919
And what are you trying to say? You think I give a shit about some negroes? They should all be put to work to build up their country and many fall away naturally. They'll be educated and made literate. In a few generations their IQ can rise. Africa would do much better under communist dictatorships.
>>74870615
Can i recommend (you) a book, Comrade Kike?
>>74863849
What do you think about the fundamental economic principle that humans make decisions in their perceived best interests and how does this help the idea of innovation in a communist society? Do people who work and contribute more receive more?
>>74870034
>Money, materialism and profit is their only god.
I see you live in a first world country, tell me, have you given all of your possessions away to charity for third world countries yet? Or at least enough to put you on par with them? Do you own a house? If so how many homeless man have you taken in? If you haven't, then you are just as materialistic as the next man and you don't fool me with your phony self-righteousness.
>>74863849
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
>>74863849
Wij hoeven jouw soort hier niet. Mijn land uit vieze communist.
Dude you're pretty bad at this whole arguing thing desu
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you're just doing this to get some ideas for anti-commie arguments
as a doctor working in a socialized healthcare system, I see OP has already perfected leeching off his fellow countryman that has no choice but bow their head before the almighty state apparatus
I'd leave voting rights only to citizens that actually work in private sector, all others as recipients or users of state budget would have no say in politics
>>74870686
>Are you saying that my tendency towards communism is genetic ?
Yes, becuase many facets of peoples persona are highly heritable. In psychometry what is useally studied is impulse control and IQ (as measured by Raven Matrixes).
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/12/09/study-on-twins-suggests-our-political-beliefs-may-be-hard-wired/
They are related and differe across races and ethnicities. For example, the correlation between IQ and metrics for impulse control are stronger for whites than blacks. I don't have time write or explain how the indexing psychometrics increase the heritability (with disminnishing returns). You end up with neuro-types, which are similar to Myers-Brigg personality categories but with stronger heritability.
You are expressing an ethnocentric interest and nothing more.
>support a plan-economy in general
bait
I'm a leftie myself but this is plain retarted
Go smoke some herbal jew maybe it'll clear up your mind
>>74863962
no he cuts in people and drives a tesla.
>centralized economy
Also, how do you avoid the formation of informal aristocracy (nomenklatura)?
Nice ideas are one thing, practice is something else.
>>74870034
>commie happens to be Jewish
.............No this beyond a meme guys, Jews are biologically inclined to be communists, just like women are.
>>74870034
>My father is Jewish, so what?
Eh, probably bait
>>74871950
>biologically
Nope. Jewish position in past and future shaped that.
They were segregated displaced group which often suffered persecution. Support of ideologies like communism is only natural in such conditions.
>>74871907
what kind of question is that? of course he plans to be one of them, more equal than others, as it were
after all, he's a doctor, not a common worker
How do you respond with capitalists claiming that communism has been tried because the Soviet Union, and, for libertarians who follow the Austrian school of economics, also in the United States?
Pic related.
>>74864015
Leave
DELETE THIS
>>74872189
Jews are biologically parasites and leech off from the world as much as they can.
>>74872523
Communism is a stateless society m8.
It's supposed to be an evolution of socialist state.
USSR was a socialist state.
>>74872300
Well let's hear his idea.
>>74872856
>getting brainwashed by /pol/
I'm not claiming Jews didn't do shit things but here Jew is like "white male" for SJWs.
>>74872971
>brainwashed by pol
Literally I'm not even a week in here, it all comes from outern books.
>>74872856
Well yeah exactly, hence why they were always persecuted and "displaced". Shit happens for a reason, they didn't just get kicked out of 109 countries for no reason.
>>74873086
What books?
Dude, you live in Balkans. You know how useful the scapegoating is.
Jews are scapegoats. For every Jew supporting shitty things, there's shitload of non-Jews too.
Jews are just naturally inclined to support internationalism and leftism.
>>74871632
Is this related to R-selected instincts in the political left? They breed as often as possible, as early as possible. They don't raise their young. They recoil from competition in the sexual marketplace and move to subvert it. They sexualize their young and enter puberty far sooner than K selected organisms.
I'm starting to think that communism, socialism, the political left in general is caused by r-selected instincts. This might be why women couldn't vote.
>>74868778
>I assume you tie this to cultural relativism?
I was actually referring to encouragement of race mixing, transgenderism, homosexuality, and non white immigration to white countries. /pol/ usually refers to those as cultural marxism.
>>74873209
Would you want to hear me out or not? I'm asking because it would be long.
>>74873209
>"For every Jew supporting shitty things, there's shitload of non-Jews too"
Yes but significantly less for the latter. Stereo-types don't manifest for no reason. That's why every stereo-type that exists consistently perpetuates itself.
>>74873627
/pol/ is full of pretty uneducated and historically illiterate people.
>>74873738
To tell the truth the world wouldn't lose much with capitalism and it's dangerous monopolies gone.
>>74873661
Of course.
>>74873696
And I explained why. Try to see things from their perspective.
You realise corruption is rife in communists governments aswell?
You realise a populace will never enjoy a communist society as everyone will always want more?
You realise communism is nothing but idealist nonsense?
>>74873570
Yes you're right. R selected organisms put almost zero value on the individual. That's why the idea of big government is so prevalent for them. Jews are like women, very feminine, no masculine traits. They could never fight in a war. This is why they need the big daddy communist state to look after them.
>>74873877
to tell the truth capitalism cannot create monopolies without interest banking
>>74870034
>My father is Jewish, so what? Both of my parents are secular. I don't see how it's relevant to the discussion.
It is very relevant to the discussion. Are you new here OP?
>>74871113
>people
You almost had me there
>>74873901
The Jewish world-community is, has been, more and more for centuries already, not a Semitic nation but a raceless brotherhood gathered around a Semitic nucleus. A raceless brotherhood, however, as racially-conscious as any people can be; increasingly numerous cosmopolitan elements who put the usual characteristics of the raceless: faithlessness; unscrupulousness; disregard of order; soul-poisoning skepticism to the service of the racial idea that they have partly inherited partly adopted from their full-blooded brothers in faith and brothers in interests, and Semites, a very definite, inferior section of the broad Semitic race, in whom masterfulness in subtlety and intrigue outways by far all warrior-like qualities. And its collective aim, pursued throughout history with relentless consistency, is nothing less than the prosperity and power of the Jew, everywhere in the world, at the expense of all non-Jews. The consciousness of being, more or less, “children of Abraham” and the common “Law” under which, its members live, may well keep the community together. Yet they are but means to an end. And the end, the common collective purpose: actual Jewish rule, is what really matters.
>>74871950
>No this beyond a meme guys, Jews are biologically inclined to be communists, just like women are.
Yet when they manage to finally subvert the countries they temporarily live in and turn them into commie-infested shitholes where people are forced to stand in line for hours to buy some toilet paper (that feels like sand paper), they abandon ship and run like hell. These people are no different at all from Arabs: they are deadly for their hosts and they do not integrate, ever.
>>74874110
Oy Vey you Antisemite :^)
>>74873877
>>74874110
Guess we generally agree.
Liberal capitalism is a bad thing.
>>74863849
>communist
>athiest
I swear one of these are like magnet pulling the other in
I never met a communist thats not athiest
>>74874493
Well I partly agree but I disagree with "Jewish power" part.
If you observe history, those (commie) Jews you speak of were idealists, not some cabal aiming to rule over non-Jews.
In Stalin's USSR most of them were eliminated.
>>74874806
They were not at all idealists. They were cold-blooded killers who murdered in millions to further their agendas. When Stalin fucked them up, they fled the USSR and shut it down in a matter of few decades.
You ran OP away with your J00 nonsense, /pol/.
>>74876126
>nonsense
>>74871202
This desu.
All commies are hypocrites and should gas themselves.
How many gallons of semen have you consumed in the last 24 hours?
Commie
>>74863849
*tips fedora *
>>74876690
>being from north korea lite
>>74863849
Every time communism has been tried it resulted in millions of deaths.
Start being realistic instead of an idealist.
>>74863849
>Assistent op z'n 32e
Dropped.
>>74877798
I don't think OP would've made the same statements if he were an executive at ABN AMRO.
I've noticed a lot of people who are commies are people with shitty lives who use communism as some sort of religion.
Anyone with half a brain knows communism will NOT work as it's incompatible with human nature.
you are wildly confused
>>74870034
>My father is Jewish, so what?
LID OFF YID
LID OFF YID
LID OFF YID
>>74878487
Based mudslime.
This isn't a commie board.
>>74879215
NNNGGGHHHH
>>74879668
Achmed did you just cum?
>>74879865
Uhhh.. m-maybe..
>>74880096
Fapping to ninjas is my favourite past time.
>>74880165
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS RIGHT, SAUCE!
>>74863849
What are your views on the assassination of Pim Fortuyn? Do most of your fellow communists support political assassinations?
Why would central planning work for you when it failed so miserably in the USSR and the satellites?
Do you accept the overwhelming data on the genetic heritability of cognitive capacities and psychological traits?
>>74880165
Wanna hear something funny? International porn is probably the best thing to promote peace between countries.
Banned here.
>>74880534
No idea, this is from my 2012 mudsluts folder.
Found something though.
http://billgatesbook.ru/gallery/3454995
>>74863849
You belong in a gas chamber.
Is communism an economic model or a political model ?