>>74845459
>socialism without nationalism
There you go
>>74845459
Isn't that a Hitler quote?
If it's not someone should quote Hitler, put Bernie's picture on it and put it on Twitter. I'd love to see how far it would get before people realize that's a Hitler quote.
>>74845804
>Isn't that a Hitler quote?
N-nooooooo... ?
>>74845866
or is it
Appeal to the demographic that has no say in how the country is run. Hur dur mellenials only whine but they'll get off their asses and vote for me...fucking autist
>>74845459
>be american
>go to school, make straight As
>go to college
>found business, achieve American Dream
>suddenly whiney teenagers complain you're not paying for their college
>>74845804
>hitler
>socialist
Fucking what
>>74846251
Nazism is essentialy an attempt to be socialist without all the gay shit.
>>74846203
I know m8, hits my father worse of all. He came here from a communist country at 13 (they had no property at all), didn't even speak the language. He got a four-year engineering degree while working part-time (no loans, no scholarships) and was able to provide for his family. Now film-majors want to take it away. Democracy is shit
>>74846251
Nazi=National SOCIALISM
>>74845804
>>74846251
Nazi is short for Nationalsozialismus.
>>74845459
I like Bernie but his economic positions will NEVER happen.(it took 8 YEARS just for obama to get Obamacare passed) And he's weak on pretty much everything else.
>>74846827
>>74847056
Watch out, he's going to tell you it's not real socialism without liberal tolerance, white genocide, and men greeting each other with a kiss on the lips.
>>74845459
or to paraphrase
>>74846251
>american education
>>74845612
>>74846380
"Fascism: 1. any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism."
It's funny though how the politically illiterate see the title German Socialist Nationalist as meaning economically socialist and anti-capitalist. "Hurr. I'm a fucking retard. If the words in the title then it means that they are." Sure and The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is a democratic republic just like us!
Ps. Fascist economics adhere to the idea that corporations and businesses control all means of economic oversight. Looks like we're already living in a fascist state.
>>74847609
You're thinking of Mussolini, not Hitler.
>>74847609
i'd say wealth "redistribution" and state control of private enterprise is about as classic state level economic socialism as you can get. "feel the bern" may not be applying to jews this time but its the same ideology
>>74845459
Yeah he hasnt died yet
>>74847609 add.
Hitler built houses for the poor, forced industrials to bring millions of Germans back into employment, enforced labor rights such as minimum wage and paid vacations. He even confiscated savings. He propagated that the economy must serve the people, never the other way around. It doesn't get any more socialist than that.
>>74846827
>>74847010
>>74847056
You know who else deflects from their own issues so hard that they flip the tables and accuse their enemies of doing what they the actual ones are guilty of doing? Hillary Clinton. Looks like authoritarian pro-corporate Trump has a lot more in common with cuntface than you bootlicking vermin realize. Why not just vote for her, it's not like a reality TV actor who hides e disclosure of evidence of his wealth is running a false flag campaign to give his indebted best friends the Clinton the presidency in exchange for favors or anything.
>It’s funny, sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is, that people are lining up for food. That is a good thing! In other countries people don’t line up for food: the rich get the food and the poor starve to death.
Bernie Sanders on bread lines in commie countries.
>>74848164
go get your foodstamps nigger. the only issue this thread has discussed is bernie = hitler
>>74845459
Bernie Sanders isn't a Socialist. No American is. And he's beating the shit out of Trump, fyi.
>>74846797
>hits my father worse of all
I think this sums up every rightwinger on /pol/.
>Grow up in upper middle class suburb
>Live with parents
>Complain about "welfare parasites"
Maybe one day you faggots will have to be faced with reality, but if the trend is any indication, not likely.
>>74848133
Saying one thing and doing another are two different things. Indeed nationalists are masters of displaying a facade of populism. They are the masters of propaganda and utilizing social issues to get the people on board. The ultimate goal is undermining democracy to maintain power while issuing authoritarian doctrine and applying it to all aspects of governance. If that's not promising to "Make the country great again" when the intention is to "Make the country follow again" then you're blind. Too bad for the nationalists in denial that Hillary's the one pulling the strings. Just think how stupid you'll all feel when he does something to obviously and nakedly concede to her before November. Or a fake scandal, whichever comes first. Hillary is the fascist dictator we are dealing with. Trump and his retard supporters are helping her rise to power.
>>74848705
every seen a benie rally on tv?
>muh rich white kid republicans
>>74848919
You're in denial.
All things considered, the Nazis were more honest, moral and social than "true" socialists.
>>74849090
So anyone who took a high school class that taught about WWII is in denial? Everyone knows what fascism is about in this country, which is whymtheymare using the threat of it to put Hillary in power. The establishment knows its the only way they can get the American people to back an actual fascist dictator.
>>74849488
proofs on the hillary coup?
also the school system misleads us about fascism
and finally hitler was a socialist and ISIS are muslims. get over it
>>74848705
Daddy issues.
>"Don't hit me for being beta again, daddy. Look at how much I like trump because he's like my dad and shows us tough love is the key to overcoming our insecurities"
It certainly explains why this cesspool of failure supports him
>>74848935
But that's not true of Trump, supporters, right? Hypocrite faggot. The poor don't tend to attend such spectacles. They're trying to survive.
Also, once again, the "Hitler wasn't a Socialist" meme. Tired of this bullshit. Believe it or not, not everyone in history from Spartans to Hitler were Americans.
>>74849867
Honestly, I'm not sure you're wrong.
>>74849488
im surprised youve lasted this long outside your safe space
>>74849867
>implying you have any knowledge about the user base of 4chan in general or pol specifically. lets see some stats.
>>74849488
>every one knows what fascism is so they are using the threat of that thing everyone knows about to scare people and trick them into the thing that everyone knows about
inb4 samefag
>>74849957
fuck off r-eddit
>>74850350
No, facebook. You fuck off my /pol/.
>>74849848
1) A former Clinton aide has confirmed that Bill contacted Trump just days before announcing his candidacy.
2) A résumé playing the "bad guy" in a nationally popular reality TV show (which is govt run psyop mind control)
3) Gave the Latino vote to Clinton in his first speech as candidate
4) Posts on social media dating back to 2012, only 4 years ago praising the Clintons at every turn
5) Donated to Hillary's 2008 campaign
6) is best friends with slick willie
7) everything is just too convenient considering the early coronation of Clinton despite her unfavorability
8) Clinton wouldnt have made it anywhere if they didnt have the "trump scare" to run on
>>74845459
>>74845459
>>74848568
kek
>>74845459
>>74850291
So why then is trump transparently displaying authoritarian nationalist stereotypes? They are all based on psyop controlled research. The goal is to get people scared of fascism not to trick them into thinking they aren't fascist. If trump was really interested in winning he would have ran a more populist campaign that appealed to the entire voting base, like hitler. Instead, he comes right out of the gate hating the "Jews" instead of hiding it like someone intent on winning the election would do. There's a reason why dictators who haven't come into power yet aren't going around saying "yeah, vote for me because I promote division and authoritianism." No, they lie and make appealing populist promises based on no past record or experience actually doing those things. Trump has given the propaganda media machine everything they want to paint him as the big bad fascist. It's all a pro corporate sham that trump and bill Clinton devised while snorting coke off an underage hookers ass on Jeffrey Epsteins private jet.
>>74845459
>>>74849848
>1) A former Clinton aide has confirmed that Bill contacted Trump just days before announcing his candidacy.
oh so his political opponent's assitant said that?
>2) A résumé playing the "bad guy" in a nationally popular reality TV show (which is govt run psyop mind control)
proof?
>3) Gave the Latino vote to Clinton in his first speech as candidate
but anon he has the republican latino vote and latino dems arent gonna vote republican anyway. he isnt trying to convert democratic latinos
>4) Posts on social media dating back to 2012, only 4 years ago praising the Clintons at every turn
quite an exaggeration. but so far your only valid point. even though people change politically over time. it's not unheard of for a lifelong liberal to shed the brainwashing and see the truth. I personally cant judge him for that because it applies to me too. i personally give him the benefit of the doubt for this specific talking point.
>5) Donated to Hillary's 2008 campaign
no. he endorsed McCain
>6) is best friends with slick willie
he gets along with everybody.
>7) everything is just too convenient considering the early coronation of Clinton despite her unfavorability
you understimate how much people hate bernie and his supporters
>8) Clinton wouldnt have made it anywhere if they didnt have the "trump scare" to run on
this could be said about bernie too.
>>74848919
>Saying one thing and doing another are two different things.
He said them and did them too.
>>74851566
but the people aren't scared anon your theory ignores the fact that hes popular and winning. and the ones calling him a fascist boogieman keep getting disproven, it's quite embarassing.
>>74851690
>1)
No, it was a former aide to bill clinton. Keyword former.
>2)
The Apprentice and all other "reality" programming pushing a pro corporate message/agenda
>3) 38% of Latinos are republicans. That's a significant number of votes.
>4) has sided with the Clintons since the 90s. I suspect he is a fan of triangulation, the corporate effort to merge the ideology of both parties to support corporate interests (the main successful goal of the Bill Clinton admin)
>5) nope. Donated over 100k to the Clinton foundation and publicly supported her in 08.
>6) Anyone with plans to run as a republican in the future would have stayed miles away from a Clinton, but he and bill play golf together often and invited them to his wedding. This means he was influenced to run within only two years or less before actually doing it because that's when the publicity of being friends with the Clintons stopped
>7) this makes no sense since conservatives despise clinton and liberals love bernie.
>8) Clinton is the one utilizing the scare tactics and promoting voting AGAINST trump. Bernie's campaign is about getting people to vote FOR him.
>>74852093
Embarrassing for you and his supporters when she wins because the media has spammed the nation 24/7 with holocaust footage and general fear mongering. The underestimation from people who support him is his support in the GE. Sure he had success in the primaries because the medias attempt to demonize him non fucking stop all day every day backfired a bit but they don't care because they are setting the stage for the months leading up to November. When they take it from "national threat" to "national crisis" voter turnout will explode and every person in the country who thinks they are being reasonable will vote against him. Even if that doesn't happen they will rig it for her to win anyway because she will have the support of the entire establishment and they are not worried about the country getting up in arms about it. They think that after all the propaganda there won't be millions of trump supporters, at least not ones that publicly and openly admit it, and they're probably right. If they don't then who will get pissed when they rig it for him to lose? I think the fact that none of the trump supporters retaliated against bernie after they shut down the Chicago rally is proof that there is no threat of protest or retaliation from trump supporters because they are 90% closeted. The establishment likely recognizes this better than anyone.
>>74853124
the aide is still a guy who worked for clinton saying things to hurt trumps effort, I think im right to be skeptical. unless he has proof.
trump is doing great with latino republicans, for you to say he lost the latino vote is dishonest.
trump golfs with lots of people and he has said before how he donated to many politicians throughout his life in order to call in favors later.
donating to someone's charitable foundation is not the same as donating to a campaign. he donated to the clinton foundation, but he endorsed McCain for president. but important to note, he has since expressed regret because he found out the clinton foundation regularly misappropriates funds. he said some nice things about hillary but that was then.
again you are underestimating how much democrats hate bernie and his fans. bernies cringy fanbase is enough to keep people away.
originally i asked for proof and all you have given me is conjecture and speculation, not even a single link.
you seem upset because bernie is doing so poorly and you want it all to.be a grand conspiracy against the will of the people, but the people want trump or hillary. too bad.
>>74854228
when colorado shut trump out his supporters rallied super hard . ARE YOU KIDDING ME.jpg. that was the moment that guaranteed him the nomination. dont be mad at us because you guys couldnt muster up the meme magic to help bernie when he went through something similar
>>74854593
sorry, meant for another anon. fucking 4chan app makes things difficult.
>>74854329
Every rebuttal of yours reeks of naivety. I'm not going to look for links providing proof of each claim, but if you google any of them you'll find it.
I know it's a hard thing to accept but just think about how stupid you will feel when a "scandal" or some "revelation" about his past comes out in the media and he concedes his candidacy at the last minute. Any variety of things is possible, but I guarantee he is going to lose just like bernie. If she wins, someone with the lowest favorsbility of any actual politician in the history of the country, lets just agree that imwas right, deal? This election is revealing the machinatons of the masters more than any time in the past. Democracy in this country is an illusion and always has been. The founding fathers were oligarchs and the country has been that way since. People are just now realizing we've been lied to this whole time. I'm sure the naive masses will maintain the status quo for some time to come unfortunately, as evidenced by trump and everyone's inability to see through the trick including his supporters and detractors.
>>74845804
>>74845459
The irony is that this guy is closer to being hitler than trump is
>>74848197
>hernie seriously thinks the rich wait in line
They're rich, you crusty jew. Where do you think the rich will get food?
>>74845459
Calling himself a socialist while proposing social democratic policies.
>>74855549
That's the shit he's been preaching that makes me know he is the legit outsider, not trump. I'm actually a conservative libertarian, so it's not exactly easy supporting socialism. But I do think that our country's recent history has proven that unfettered capitalism is doing more damage than socialism for the people could ever do. As long as the bankers and CEOs are paying their fair share of taxes that I as a middle class American pay so that niggers can cheat the system and live as lazy bums, that's all I care about. The most important thing is taking our country back, and i trust that a sanders presidency is the most likely chance we've had maybe ever to make that happen. I can hold my nose to support socialism if it means that people will realize that we run this shit not the wealthiest few and the politicians they put into power.
>>74857486
That's an Adolf Hitler quote.
>>74857486
>not recognizing a hitler quote
Your reddit is showing.
>>74857710
So then the game is find quotes from hitler that are populist because then you discredit actual populism. Dank meme, bro. Good thing hitler had no past ecord in politics to back him up, unlike sanders.
>>74858140
I don't even know what the fuck you're going on about but the bottom line is that leftist normies can't even differentiate Hitler quotes from Bernie quotes. These are the same people that throw the word Nazi and Hitler around like socialists throw around tax payer dollars.
>>74857937
It was a good quote. No basis of trust to go on, but you can see why his ideas for the country were appealing to the disenfranchised. Too bad they were lies which discredits any effective trolling this intends to do. Maybe if someone found a quote of hitlers that predicated his rise to fascist power then it would work. Even though I fell for it, I feel no shame so the trolling is weak with this meme.
>>74858561
Only the politically uneducated or willfully deceitful equate fascism and liberalism as being anywhere close to each other in the ideological spectrum. They are mutually exclusive by the very definition of each. If you think this way you are a victim of inverted propaganda structured to blame the other for what you are guilty of. Its the oldest trick in the book, and embarrassingly transparent. Okay for trolling people online, but Jesus Christ does it make you morons look like idiots when yo want to be taken seriously.
>>74858868
>Hitler was fascist meme
The is exactly wrong.
In your own words:
>Fascist economics adhere to the idea that corporations and businesses control all means of economic oversight.
This wasn't the case in Nazi Germany as the Government issued the work for the corporations. Hitler was a socialist and there's nothing you can say to change that.
On the topic of lying, I'd say:
"He did exactly what he said he would do in his speeches." if I wouldn't risk getting fucked by the thought police for saying something like that.
I dislike Hitler for everything else he did, but he definitely did not enact fascism and he definitely did give the wealth back to the people where it belongs.
Also,
>the trolling is weak with this meme
Is this your first day off reddit?
I'll cease this conversation now because we live in actual fascism right now and I don't want to incriminate myself.
>>74859916
You do mean the government worked in tandem with the corporations to control all means of production right? That is what we have in America now, the change that is proposed is for the government to further regulate those corporations, the complete opposite of what the nazis did. They used the controlled economy to gain power, we want a democracy that keeps the power in check through regulation under a government by the people. Corruption only happens under a structure that is already set up to be corrupted.
The bottom line is Weimar era Germany and the state of affairs in the US today are as apples and oranges as you can get.
>>74860934
>You do mean the government worked in tandem with the corporations to control all means of production right?
The government had all economic power and the corporation had to follow suit.
Before 1933, corporations had as much power as they have right now. They didn't have to pay minimum wages and had little to no obligations to follow.
After 1933, If the state wanted to build/produce something, the corporations competed over who could fulfil the requirements best. They had to pay a minimum wage, issue paid vacations and many more things.
If you want to tell me the Nazis did not regulate the big corporations, you should probably check some facts.
Also, keep in mind that socialism =/= communism. Corporations are still competing and have a relatively big amount of freedom compared to communism, where the state is the only economic force.
>we want
Who is we?
>a democracy that keeps the power in check through regulation under a government by the people
How do you make sure >>74855549
doesn't happen (again)?
>Corruption only happens under a structure that is already set up to be corrupted.
Corruptions happens everywhere the people who rule see themselves as the masters instead of the servants.
>The bottom line is Weimar era Germany and the state of affairs in the US today are as apples and oranges as you can get.
Where does this come from?
>>74861970
Socialism only leads to communism under a set of outlying events which could be avoided if a movement of political enlightenment prevailed. Putting someone in power who is a champion of the people and follows through with their promises will bring forth empowerment of a society currently in shackles. Comparing any potential event in the future to an event in the past only applies if there aren't any crucial elements differentiating the circumstances. Sure you can argue that expanding the government is giving them more power, but that power is only a bad thing in a country that is already oppressed by its masters. In a true democracy, socialism could never enter the phase of dictating economic policy unless it supports the people and its what they want. In order to get there in the first place we would need to replace the corporate stooges in congress with actual representatives of the people. That's how you know a socialism plan is commie proof in this country, because in order for it to even be a possibility we have to take back the entire government. Not gonna happen under an electorate that is almost completely split between conservative and liberal ideology. For all the bad things socialism would bring (mostly lazy minorities) it would bring the change we need because once you give something to everyone that makes their lives better, you can't take it back or they will rise against and overthrow the masters, this is an occurrence throughout history. It's the main reason tyrannical governments give their people so little.
