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when Venezuela has their inevitable civil war, who will get involved. will the u.s. help the rebels? will North Korea help Maduro? Russia? China? I'm sure Australia and the u.k. will jump in with us as they always do.
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>>74795194
>switzerland in a war
wew
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Colombia will definitely support whatever rebel forces rise up to get revenge for Venezuela supporting FARC for so long.
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>>74795194
this map makes no sense what so ever
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>>74795454
generic search bro
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>>74795194
What the fuck is this autism?
>Greece siding with Germany
>Turkey siding with Russia
>Ukraine siding with Russia
>Saudi Arabia siding with Pakistan
>Japan not siding with America
>Saudi Arabia not siding with America
>Switzerland getting involved
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>>74795194
>Japan
>Red
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maybe I should've actually looked at the picture before I picked it!
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>>74795980
Yeah good job faggot.
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Why is Chile not blue they're good goys
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There won't be a civil war. Venezuela will sort this out in a civil manner like they always do
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>>74795194
>Mexico red

F
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>>74795194
france, germany, japan, philippines, south africa, and mexico are all wrong color - probably more too
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>>74795729
>>Turkey siding with Russia
They've forgot Korea
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>Turkey and Russia
I like ruskies but I'm pretty sure we're on America's side.
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>>74795194
>When Venezuela has their inevitable civil war, who will get involved.
Easy, Dominican Republic and Cuba will get involve because they got oil from Venezuela. When Venezuela is in war, the oil will stop, and it's not good not just for the DR and Cuba, but many Petrocaribe states.
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>>74795194
>Israel not involved
>But Iran is
>Ukraine fighting with Russia
>France/Germany/,Belgium fighting with Russia
>Turkey not kissing NATO boots
>Greece not fighting with US
>All Northern European countries involved
>Japan fighting alongside China
>Vietnam being in any state to fight
>1 submarine kek
>Argentina fighting with Brazil

Wew lad. At least you got Pakistan and India right.

Also, why are Switzerland, Portugal, and Ethiopia fighting?

OP are you autistic
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>>74796737
they could get it from the rebel government,too. I'm sure the oil reserves and stations will be the first targets for occupancy.
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>>74796950
>rebel government
Which rebel government?
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>>74796861
I didn't make this, Google image searched ww3, didn't think I'd find anything relevant anyways.
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>>74795194
Um, Japan, Chile, Philippines, Germany and France are on our side?

You can have Egypt, Iraq and Sweden
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>>74795980
Yeah you retard
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>>74796337
F
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>>74795194
>Implying somebody will give 2 shits about venezuela if anything happens
JEJ
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>>74795194
I don't see Venezuela having any political value that US or EU would care who takes its place.

While Venezuela has the 2nd or 3rd larger oil reserves in the world and an intervention would basically guarantee the interventionist a good way to maintain the level of productions low or high once enough money into infrastructure is spend on Venezuela. But the US already has a deal with the Saudis, though I could see the US wanting to get out of that deal since the Saudis are fucking retarded.
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>>74797210
I would kind of give a shit since we drill their oil,but i guess it'd be even easier since if they died we wouldn't have to pay taxes
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Map aside, if Venezuela has a violent revolution the world risks cartels in Colombia gaining access to their oil reserves. I don't see the US getting involved or anything like that though, way too many liberal pussies these days.

>"I'm against oppression" when in times of peace
>"I'm against war" when in times of relieving oppression
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>>74795194
I don't know either...
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>>74797459
this is nice proxy
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>>74795194
Why do I have to ally with kebab and commies?
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>>74795194
Whites have killed enough whites. I refuse to participate or support in any way, a war against mostly white nations.

This means for the time being I will not fight any European nation, Russia, or south American nations with a lot of whites, like Argentina.

Also, china is kind of minding their own business, why the fuck fight them?? The only shit the West imports from there our businesses had to go allow China to compete for manufacturing on. Just make it illegal to outsource to them, holy shit. Why are you autists so happy to go fighting everyone?

The only whites I will kill are left and 3rd world apologists/sympathizers than want to ruin us./ They are traitors to our peoples, nations, and cultures and they are self destructive and insane./ Purging them is a form of eugenics.

I will however,m happily bomb refugee camps and nuke mecca.

Basically, it should be everyone vs Muslims, with a large side of deporting niggers back to Africa and instating a quarantine until they invent radio on their own. I am afraid we violated the prime directive and it is having dire consequences on our society's advancement. Ex, we spend like 20x more on welfare for niggers than we do on advancing space travel or securing our indefinite survival.

Lets prioritize on that shit.
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>>74797422
The U.S. won't get involve, but both Cuba and DR will.
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>>74797422
I actually agree with your liberals, the problems of Venezuela are from Venezuela and their people to resolve, no matter how much I hate Maduro and what he is doing to his people, if they don't help themselves nobody can go and free them.

The US shouldn't intervene at all, the left on each Latin American country is still strong even if here we have a center-right government now and Brazil got rid of their commie president, if the US intervenes like they used to do in the 60's/70's then it will only give strength to the left on each Latin American country and unite them in a feeling of hatred towards the interventionism of the US and we will have a new generation of people leaning towards the left again. People here don't usually care about the US unless they see them actively intervene on the internal affairs of Latin American countries since we have bad memories from all the brutal dictatorships that the US supported decades ago.
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>>74795194
>Egypt in a war
With our new President and goverment we'll never get in a war.
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>>74795194
>Sweden
>Blue

>Philippines
>Red

>Colombia
>Neutral

>Germany on the same side as Russia
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>>74795729
(You)
Pakistan is Saudi's colony and slave
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>>74797242
I'm not trying to imply i know the situation better than you....but seriously, look what the coldwar did to any and all seemingly valueless countries. If you can have an influence you push to try and have an influence. The real problem is there is no solid Ideologies to base alliance on, just the different parties/gangs and which other gangs can offer more/has closer connections.

>>74795194
Explain what the hell is going on in this map and why.
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>>74797645
Your second half is entirely correct but the first part has some errors.
>Argentina
>White

Other thing is that China isn't minding its own business, they have regular disputes with India, Nepal, Tibet, Vietnam, Japan, both Koreas, Mongolia, and even Russia. The most important and notable however are India (rival regional power), Vietnam, and Japan (both are at risk over China building islands in the SCS).

If South/East/SE Asia doesn't watch it, war could break out. China is an expansionist beast and it needs to be contained by them, I would hate to have to fight 1.3 billion misinformed people

>>74797812
Yeah I don't think we should intervene either, I'm just saying one of the main reasons we won't is because of our left. If the neocons had their way with Bush or Rubio, I think there would be a decent chance of getting involved if necessary. Muh foreign oil.
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>>74798212
the thing is, our strategists are not going to like the thought of Russian or more socialist influence that close to us.
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>>74795194
was this your 3rd grade history project?
because it's hard to imagine someone over the age of 18 being this fucking retarded.
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>>74798848
Kek

>>74798634
Yeah no kidding. They were pissed when Argentina bought helis from Russia a little while back.
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>>74798634
>more socialist influence
...Its just which clique people are in. The days of ideology are over. It's just realpolitik between elites.
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>>74795194
>Australia jumping in

Yeah, we'll send 10 troops and pull them out as soon as one gets injured. We're your greatest ally, goyim!
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USA + Poo in Loos + Poles + Britbongs = GG
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>>74798212
They are white, though, this picture I didn't take proves it!
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>Portugal
Shit, don't involve us man.
We'll send a single tank to deliver our fantastic cooking to one side and then fuck off back to our country. Don't shoot me.

>brazil
>allied to the US
>after the NSA was caught spying on every internet traffic from there
Man, whoever made that pic doesn't really read a lot of news.
Good choice of PIC OP. No sarcasm, you actually picked a funny one.
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>>74800258
And my axe!
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>>74800258
What about the Aussies? Shitposting aside they do have breddy gud fighters and pilots.
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>>74797242
>I don't see Venezuela having any political value that US or EU would care who takes its place.
Pretty much.

The only fear the US would have from Venezuela is the government using their oil to promote other anti-American regimes. And that is over, as the economic crisis is in fact forcing them to cut back on the oil they gave to Caribbean nations for free, that combined with the shale oil revolution means American interest in Venezuela is decreasing rather than increasing.

Funny how Chavez claimed he wanted to make Venezuela independent yet he made it more dependent than ever by destroying all other industries aside from oil and destroying their currency.

At this rate, they'll end up adopting the dollar like Ecuador and Zimbabwe.
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>>74800763
Aussies just need to load their tanks with shells full of spiders and they could kill anything in 2 continent radius.
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>>74795194
>Turkey
>with Russia
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Memes aside, I think this really isn't the fault of socialism.
Someone more knowledgable about it please correct me, but couldn't Venezuela kept their Socialist policies without relying on oil?
I know they'd be fucked, and poor, possibly with a ver small industry and the growth of the country would be very, very slow, but wouldn't it be possible?

OR you know, take the money they made from the oil and invest it in factories, roads and other infrastructure to generate wealth after the oil money stopped coming?

It doesn't seem like the fault of socialism itself, more like the fault of people who got a lot of money and pissed it all away.

Feel free to correct me though, I really have no idea what they actually did with the money or how socialism actually worked on their country.
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>>74801170
>"It doesn't seem like the fault of socialism itself, more like the fault of people who got a lot of money and pissed it all away."

That is how socialism worked in their country, and just about every other country too
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>>74801242
As long as the kunts have the decency not to spend the money all in 1 place its not that bad.
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>>74801242
Kind of a shame really.
I always imagined socialism as a government that applies all surplus money into helping their citizens with foodstamps and other measures like that, whic leads to an improved workforce, which in turn leads to better industry, wich in turn also gives the government more money to repeat the cycle.

It's a very simplistic way of looking at socialism, I know that.
But I keep wondering what failed in their case.
They had the money. And aprently they were giving it to the people and helping them.
What the hell went wrong?

>>74801438
Tipycally it doesn't matter as long as the money stays within the country.
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>Sunnis and Shia on the same side
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>Mexico
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>tfw this happens under Trump
>tfw isolationist policies have come into effect again; thus, the United States no longer will be quick to join any world scale conflict.
>Britbongs jump right into the war to feel important again.
>Europe goes war hungry like usual.
>Russia gets involved
>Putin calls up asking for Trump to help save western society
>United States and Russia team up
>Bernini statues everywhere.
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>>74795194
Mercenaries 2 world in flames irl
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>>74801623
What went wrong is human nature.

If you give everything for free people will not work. If you take away from the productive citizens to give handouts to the lazy people will not work. If you regulate prices and force companies to sell at a loss, they will simply refuse to produce anymore.

Socialism fails because it interferes with the price system and resource alocation, and money stops going to what is more efficient.

Social democracy (what you seem to be alluding in your post) works better than socialism but it also fails in the long run because the high tax rates create too much of a burden on the economy.

Equality of opportunity should be the goal, not forced equality of outcome.
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>>74796861
>>Israel not involved
Don't worry, they're funding both sides.
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>>74796737

>Venezuela's civil war makes oil production stop
>Oil prices skyrocket
>Ironically would have prevented Venezuela's civil war

kek silly socialist beaner countries
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>>74798212
>>74800396


Argentina demographics from Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentines_of_European_descent

Seems pretty high to me. Enough that I'm not going to advocate bombing the country over race.
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>>74801954
But the regulating the market is not wrong by itself.
It's how you regulate it, no?

If I give someone 10.000$, that guy can allocate it on smart investments and profit, or he can blow it all on hookers and blow.

Wouldn't a Socialist state work if they could respond to the needs of the people and the market by allocating resources dynamically and quickly?

Socialism failling sounds more like a problem of logistics instead of a problem of politics.
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>>74795194
>Chile
>red
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>>74801623
The problem with socialism is that it gives the state jurisdiction over things only citizens can do. Sure, we should live in a society where people are willing to share what they have for the good of others, but when most people inevitably hoard resources for themselves, government intervention can only solve the problem in the short term by forcefully redistributing them. You can't stop that person from resenting the society in return and further rebelling against it.

At its core, this is more a cultural problem than an economic one. It would probably be a more effective approach for socialists to find ways to enstill altruistic values in the world's youth today rather than trying to reverse their deep-embedded, self-centric beliefs in the future.
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>>74803259
This is gonna sound kinda stupid, but ironically, Jews already do that.
I mean, keep in mind that this is hearsay I heard about them, and a few Jewish aquatinces I have.
Jews mostly grow up sticking up for other Jews. You rarely see a Jew in need because he can simply talk to another Jew and they'll help him up again. Again, I'm not sure how much of this is true, but if it is, it's the kind of thing most people should strive for.

I get the resentment part though. About... 10 miles from where I live, there's 5 shacks with about 15 gypsies living there. They don't work, they get free money from the state.
Their "house" is located in one of the main roads that enters the city (I live in the suburbs) and several hundread people pass by them every morning before work and see them.

I can't really blame a couple dozen people from wondering why the fuck are they off to work to pretty much feed people like that, and that sorta seems like the main weakness of Communism/socialism.
As soon as one single person decides "I don't want to work, I want free money" the whole system colapses from there.
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kikel rapist conquistador pedos "mestizoed" up all south american blood with hyperaggressive rat faced dictators to undermine and privatize all infrastructure

FUCK ZIONAZI HITLER, HOUSE NIGGER TO THE KIKOCRACY

Hitler helped the zionazi banksters justify, normalize and distract from the hostile creation of Israel. Fuck Hitlers opinions and sabotage of the gentile ethnicies.

Hitler (the sephardi crypto jew infiltraitor) may have had many ethnic preJUdices, as do many Romani Gypo Egyptian cultists who worked as trade route hauling house niggers for the silk route manipulating and profiteering KHAZARIAN EMPIRE...

slavs... polish... even romani need to understand... you are shiksas, you are not gods chosen bird faces... not all jews are birdfaces either. Sometimes jews are born with red hair and round PIEfaces of proto indo european genetics. These "bastard jews" are considered inferior because of the phenotype their face structure exhibits. They are cucked by their Birthright Isreal ethnocratic hasbara training classmates and led into dangerous situations ...until they realize their own lower status.

I see lots of disinformation and intentional confusion, race baiting threads being put up by hasbara RAT FACED, KIKEL, MOBSTER, BANKSTER, KHAZAR, PHARACEES, IMPERIAL, ASHKENAZI, THOTH IBIS BIG SCHNOZED trained liars.

https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
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>>74795194
it will not be ww3, that will be the slavic vs the zionazis fighting over imperial gold bars

south america will remain privatized blackwater/academi/xe warlords with blackops silencing
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>>74804096
Are you okay anon?
Your post wasn't very coherent.
You kind worry me.
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