Essentially there are as many liberals in America as there are conservatives. This means that there will always be differences of opinion, and that compromise is required to make progress as a society.
What exactly is wrong with conservatives that makes them willfully refuse any compromise, to the extreme that they actively prevent progress for spite even on issues they somewhat agree with?
Liberals literally do not engage in this behavior. Never in the history of the United States have liberals shut down the government or stalled the passing of bills or funding to something. They go through the proper democratic process of opposing it on the floor, voting, and moving on to the next issue if they lose.
Conservatives will dredge up issues that they lost over and over and over. They'll even proactively pass legislation to make it impossible to even discuss an issue.
There's no rational explanation for this behavior other than rampant immaturity.
Conservatives have lost every """"""""""compromise"""""""" for the last 50 years
It's time for guillotines.
>>74794042
So you're saying that because conservatives are bad at compromising that they deserve to violate all of the laws of this nation to get their way?
Seriously, what's wrong with you? Molestation? Beaten as a child?
>>74793918
Democrats don't compromise
>>74793918
Nigga "progress" is what conservatives are supposed to fucking stop.
>>74794042
The conservatives have been the whipping boys of the progressives for decades. No more compromises or concessions. You're right.
someone post the /k/ pic about "compromise"
>>74794188
Liberal: No we don't want to ban guns, we just want to avoid these few items that serve no purpose to hunters or self-defense.
Conservative: YOU AINT TAKING OUR GUNS, FUCK OFF
Liberal: There are cases where abortion can be necessary, such as rape, incest, or risk to the mother's life.
Conservative: YOU LOVE KILLING BABIES, DON'T YOU? NO WAY.
Liberal: There are better ways to deal with the immigration issue. We simply can't round up that many hispanics. It would make more sense to give them a path to citizenship, make them earn it.
Conservative: THEY'RE TAKIN OUR JOBS AND RAPIN OUR WOMEN, WE NEED A WALL RIGHT NOW.
You were saying?
>>74794488
>We simply can't round up that many hispanics.
nice Holocaust denial
>>74794340
It's fine if you want to keep America in the 1700s, but the rest of us have moved on. Go live on a farm or something and give up your voting card.
>>74794376
You're going to be compromising a lot come November, when liberals take the presidency, house, and senate.
>>74793918
We're done compromising. Every compromise has killed this country a little farther. At this point, the liberals are saying "I want to slit your throat, but I'll compromise and only stab you in the stomach instead!" Why would we compromise?
>>74793918
maybe it's because conservatives rightfully see liberal policies as illogical and detrimental to future progress
if your ideas weren't so shitty there would be a lot more agreement. "more free stuff" and "rights for irrelevant minorities" is not a good way of advancing a nation.
>>74793918
>they actively prevent progress
Congrats. You summarized conservative motivation in only 4 words.
"Progress" does not the same thing as positive change. If you want to make a change to anything you have to actually convince people that said change will have net positive outcomes.
Progressives at some point in time decided that they no longer had such a burden of proof and started to rely on roundabout tactics to forcefully obtain compliance with whatever they were proposing. All under the guise of "compromise" when it doesn't meet the definition of the word.
In order for something to be a "compromise" both sides have to offer something in exchange. We have been getting nothing out of these exchanges and as such they do not benefit us.
>>74793918
Never seen this much blatant butthurt.
>Why won't these shitlords just let Obama steamroll his shit all over the country?
The founders intended for it to be hard as fuck to do anything; in order to prevent populists from shitting on what is already a near-perfect system.
>>74794488
>"I AM SILLY" in post form
>>74794165
It took a grand total of one post to trigger you enough to where you drop into ad hominem. You're not good at this trolling thing, are you?
>>74794042
Good fucking job. You destroyed OP with nothing more than an overabundance of quotation marks and subtle provocation. FPBP and /thread.
>>74794469
Is this the one, Maplefam?
>>74793918
If you think the right never compromises then you know fuck all about congress. They've been Obama's bitch AND scapegoat for the entire presidency. Is there anything he's wanted that he hasn't gotten?
>>74794488
Oh, yeah so you ARE retarded.
>>74794469
>>74794596
Underrated post
>>74793918
All liberals are traitors, they should be killed, having their goals stifled and repealed is a valid form of compromise in the face of truly just reprisal against them being execution.
>>74794631
>being this paranoid
If this is what liberals wanted, you'd be dead. They're begin to outnumber you, you kow.
>>74794649
>same old rhetoric
>>74794684
You literally cannot keep the same laws as technology and society progresses. You have to find ways to deal with the times. Conservatives have a hard time accepting that, but that's just too bad.
>>74794747
0/10
>>74794771
They're not the scapegoat, conservatives are literally the biggest problem with America during Obama's presidency. Look at all the problems they're causing. I mean for fuck's sake, conservatives alone caused the financial crisis that Obama had to clean up, not to mention Bush's wars.
>>74794771
>Is there anything he's wanted that he hasn't gotten?
Gun Control laws. All of his attempts went dead after only a week.
>>74793918
does anyone outside CA or NY actually think this? Name anything outside gun legislation Obama HASNT gotten
>>74793918
>congress passes budget
>senate (democrat-controlled) says 'fuck off, add in appropriations for stupid liberal shit we passed on a holiday vote when there were no republicans here'
>media lies blatantly about them ebil rethuglicans shutting down the government when they were actually refusing to be strong-armed
>the incompetent masses gobble the npr shit-spew up with gusto, and regurgitate this shit line by fucking line
>refuse to understand that these people are elected by their district democratically to do exactly this
>Demand everyone agree with them, lest they throw out bullshit about 'lack of compromise'
Listen here, motherfucker, and listen good. The will of the people has been voiced, and your liberal bias refuses to acknowledge the voice of people that don't agree with you. You can keep shitting all over them, but one day you will pay for it.
>>74794913
>Obama cleaned up a financial crisis
>19 trillion in debt
THE MENTAL GYMNASTICS. THEY'RE SO AMAZING.
>>74793918
>conservatives don't compromise
explain the last 80+ years of American politics shifting left then
>>74794620
>It's fine if you want to keep America in the 1700s, but the rest of us have moved on. Go live on a farm or something and give up your voting card.
>Muh cosmopolitanism
Please kill yourself you disloyal cuckold.
>>74794946
>waaaaaaaaaaaaaah
>WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Do you hear yourself talk? I just wish I could see your face when Trump is laughed off of the stage at every debate, and when he begs Hillary for a VP seat.
>>74795016
Aaaaad hominem again! Learn your logical fallicies, son!
>>74793918
Is this a fucking joke. Conservatives have compromised over and over again since the fucking 60s. And each time they take a step toward the middle, liberals take a step back and go further left. And then they proceed to ask for compromise once again. It's a scheme they've been doing for decades, and it's only lead to cultural erosion.
Americans voted for and elected conservative congressmen because they wanted someone to stand up for actual conservative (not cuckservative) values. And they cuck every time. For instance, look at how the liberal media is shrieking for the GOP to allow obama to appoint his commie jew to the supreme court. I can guarantee that if it were the opposite, and an end-term conservative president with a democrat-controlled congress tried to get his conservative justices appointed and the congress said now, you wouldn't bge seeing any uproar at all.
tldr: liberals say they want compromise but they only want conservatives to capitulate. Give them an inch, they take a mile.
>>74793918
what the fuck are you talking about
All of this "conservatives don't compromise" meme is bullshit
Both cuckservatives and democraticats team up to fuck us in the ass and suck Jew cock
Don't like it? Vote trump
>>74794999
The funny part is, I'm more of an American than you'll ever be, you redneck shitpacker.
>>74793918
>Liberals do not engage in this behavior.
>Passed the Affordable Care Act without allowing any Republican Opinion, using a parliamentary procedure to sneak it through, on a 100% partisan vote.
>A deal is reached in 2013 after Republicans stomp Democrats in the previous congressional elections. To deal with the out of control spending. A partisan deal is reached. Democrats refuse to cut spending, Republicans offer up numerous options and compromises. Democrats refuse over and over again.
>Seeing that the government shutdown is beneficial to make the Republicans look bad, the Democrats refuse to compromise in any way shape or form.
From 2008 to 2012 Democrats controlled the government and felt zero need to compromise with Republicans at all.
When the shoddy job the Democrats were doing caused a reversal in 2012, the Democrats still refused to compromise in anyway.
>>74794754
>>74794803
that's the one
"compromising" with liberals means only giving up part of what they want to take from you. You'll never get anything but shame for not giving up more
>>74793918
What a load of bullshit. BTW, There are more conservatives than Liberals. What, why are you so mad the Right and Middle have woken up and are now one? Is it because you libtards won't get your way anymore, the way that destroys?
>>74793918
Conservatives have done nothing but compromise. They're enormous losers and wimps that are terrified of the left and cave in on every issue.
That's why conservatism should be replaced with an aggressive nationalism.
>>74793918
You should really flip your usage of liberal and conservative in that post, it would make more sense in regard to modern politics, but this is a troll post so who cares.
>>74795077
Naw, you're not, liberals aren't americans, they're too in favor of foreign invasion, communist bullshit, and other various sins against the principals laid forth in the founding documents of this nation as well as the rights of it's people to be americans. You're traitors, plain and simple.
>>74795081
>without allowing republican opinion
If the original Affordable Care Act had passed, we'd practically have socialized healthcare in this country. Obama naively tried to work with republishits in closed-door meetings for months. Maybe you forgot that part in your mental gymnastics. But the bill that was past was so much of a compromise that it had hardly anything left.
Now Republicans, even Trump, are saying what liberals said in 2008. That we need healthcare reform, but not Obamacare. They're literally reruns of liberal platforms.
>>74794488
There's a reason the right won't compromise on guns. The Left is constantly pushing for more and more "compromise". It's not a fucking compromise if you ask for more the next fucking day.
Seriously look at California. They came to a compromise and gun owners neudered their firearms by limiting their magazine size and installing bullet buttons. Now the left wants to ban bullet buttons too and set limits on how much ammo you can purchase.
Fuck this incrementalist bullshit, this is why no one wants to compromise.
>>74794488
Conservative: small Scandinavian countries are demographically incomparable to such a diverse country like the US, which has 330 million people. They are now being forced to cut benefits as refugees overwhelm their social welfare programs.
Liberal: YOU HATE THE POOR YOU RACIST KOCH BROTHERS SHILL
Conservative: Semi-automatic rifles are rarely used in crimes. CCW laws have proven to lower crime in states where they've been implemented. You're attacking the wrong problem.
Liberal: I HOPE YOUR KIDS GET SHOT AT SCHOOL YOU FUCKING INBRED
Conservative: illegal immigrants are in fact more likely to bring crime. Many of the women that try to illegally cross the border are raped by Hispanic men. They have also stressed the healthcare system and education systems that they utilize, but don't contribute to.
Liberal: WHY DON'T YOU GO PICK VEGETABLES AND MOW YOUR OWN LAWN THEN, YOU FUCKING RACIST
This game is easy moron, keep it up.
>>74794488
>there are cases where abortion can be necessary
>rape
>I don't want to take responsibility
>I don't want a boy or girl
>I don't want to use contraceptive
>necessary
Who says conservatives HAVE TO compromise? I say we civil war 2.0 to settle our differences
>>74794596
Kek I'm going to start using this irl
>>74793918
Actually, you can't compromise with libtards. You give a little to them, the fuckers will eventually come back for more. They won't stop until their leftist utopia becomes a reality in America.
So, fuck off shill.
>>74794488
I hate that you bring up gun rights, as there have been several "compromises" in the past that aren't compromises at all. You claim that they are because "hey, you're not losing EVERYTHING," but literally only one group gave concession in the end and absolutely did not benefit from it. The NFA, '86 machine gun ban and '94 assault weapons ban were arbitrary at best and have done nothing to make our nation safer and serve no reason other than to infringe upon the 2nd amendment. If you think they don't, then you're unfamiliar with the definition of "infringement." Why can't liberals allow states to be heterogeneous? Why must everything be a national issue when we could simply have a variety of states to fit individuals' ideals? What's so taboo about Balkanizing the US?
>>74795165
>sins
There's your problem, believing in hocus pocus.
>>74795208
As long as the NRA keeps coming up with better ways to kill people, there will always need to be new ways to regulate it. Deal with it.
>>74795228
All of the situations you listed are literally false. Try again.
>>74795234
0/10
>>74795252
Why are conservatives so violent?
>>74794913
>You literally cannot keep the same laws as technology and society progresses.
Yes you can, so long as the ethical principles that they are based on remain true.
There will be new situations and circumstances that warrant newer laws to adapt to the unforeseen types of situations that couldn't have been predicted. But you're claiming that new circumstances in validate existing ones, when that's patently absurd.
The whole point of law is to build upon the existing foundation and develop from it. Not raise and salt the earth at the whims of a radical few.
Those of us that understand the merits of the foundation will defend it. Snobbish sycophantic idealists like yourself will have to convince us that this foundation requires changes because we're willing to cooperate with your plans to enact them.
>Conservatives have a hard time accepting that, but that's just too bad.
Separation of powers mean that you have to work with us. And that's just too bad for you.
Also too bad for you: We're currently in control of Congress and may soon be in control of the Executive branch too. You've expended all your remaining credibility and stamped your feet so much that nobody is taking you seriously anymore.
Your overly indignant tantrums are becoming your undoing.
>>74795077
Your posts reek of un-self aware, psudo intellectual faggotry if you're not trolling. "muh technology killed conservatism, go back to the dark ages if you want to be conservative durr hurr". Materialism and a blind march to "progress" at whatever means.
Please read a book.
>Baudrillard also went beyond Lyotard and attempted to analyse how the idea of forward progress was being employed in spite of the notion's declining validity. Baudrillard argued that although genuine belief in a universal endpoint of history, wherein all conflicts would find their resolution, had been deemed redundant, universality was still a notion utilised in world politics as an excuse for actions. Universal values which, according to him, no one any longer believed universal were and are still rhetorically employed to justify otherwise unjustifiable choices. The means, he wrote, are there even though the ends are no longer believed in, and are employed in order to hide the present's harsh realities (or, as he would have put it, unrealities). "In the Enlightenment, universalization was viewed as unlimited growth and forward progress. Today, by contrast, universalization is expressed as a forward escape."[23] This involves the notion of "escape velocity" as outlined in The Vital Illusion (2000), which in turn, results in the postmodern fallacy of escape velocity on which the postmodern mind and critical view cannot, by definition, ever truly break free from the all-encompassing "self-referential" sphere of discourse.
>>74794488
Liberal:We just want common sense gun reform, no more automatic weapons, won't you compromise?
Conservative:alright no more buying guns internationally for private individuals
Liberal:We just want common sense gun reform, no more automatic weapons, won't you compromise?
Conservative:Alright, no more buying and selling handguns across state lines as private individuals
Liberal:We just want common sense gun reform, no more automatic weapons, won't you compromise?
Conservative:Alright, no more armor piercing bullets allowed
Liberal:We just want common sense gun reform, no more automatic weapons, won't you compromise?
Conservative:Alright we'll have universal background checks.
Liberal:We just want common sense gun reform, no more automatic weapons, won't you compromise?
Conservative:Alright, let's have gun free zones
Liberal:We just want common sense gun reform, no more automatic weapons, won't you compromise?
Conservative:Alright, let's ban "assault" weapons
Liberal:We just want common sense gun reform, no more automatic weapons, won't you compromise?
Conservative:We've compromised enough already, fuck off.
Liberal:Conservatives never compromise, they're just a bunch of child killers. Let's see what we can shove through with executive action.
>>74794930
He doesn't even need those. We have fucking background checks on birdshot now. Who needs federal government when you have a clan of liberal governors controlling all the powerful states?
Since his presidency we've also gotten reduced magazine sizes and all the other fun stipulations. He's only got roughly half a year left. Be prepared for the big dog executive orders soon.
>>74793918
>What exactly is wrong with conservatives that makes them willfully refuse any compromise, to the extreme that they actively prevent progress for spite even on issues they somewhat agree with?
I want you to define 'progress' without using buzzwords.
Furthermore, I want you to tell me What is the end goal of this progress, and When it stops.
>>74794488
>we just want abortions for rape and when the mother is in danger
said no liberal ever
>>74795340
>There's your problem, believing in hocus pocus.
Says the faggot that believes in the enlightenment myth of equality.
>>74795340
It's a figure of speech you dumb nigger. Learn to make logical inferences before you get back to sucking cock or shooting up heroin or whatever you do for fun.
>>74795340
>As long as the NRA keeps coming up with better ways to kill people, there will always need to be new ways to regulate it. Deal with it.
Triggered
Look at it this way.
Someone you know, but don't really like, comes up to you and asks you to give him $20. You tell him that you don't want to give him any money. He then says "well, lets meet in the middle and you give me $10."
That's essentially what any compromise that the Right makes with the Left. The left gets what they want, except maybe not as much as they wanted. And the Right gets nothing.
>>74795340
Why do libshits hate the NRA so much? They're a moderate organization that have been working with the Democrats for generations.
>>74795340
would you draw a line in the sand at anypoint or would you just let the otherside always have their way?
nothing is holy to liberals
>>74795329
>MUH GUN RIGHTS
>>74795352
>legitimately believing that laws don't have to adapt to the times
We just saw a case of where that's completely bullshit. The forefathers had no law that can possible dictate something like warrants or wiretapping or anything involved with, say, data on your cellphone. That requires new legislation. We've been doing this ever since the transistor was invented, you idiot. Please shut up and educate yourself.
>>74795357
>quoting wikipedia that limbough told you about
>>74795374
0/10
>>74795456
God can't save you from progress.
>>74795484
It's not a figure of speech, listen to yourself. You're foaming at the mouth. Your kind should be euthanized like any other mad dog.
>>74795203
> Obama naively tried to work with republishits in closed-door meetings for months.
This is a 100% lie. The meetings were to convince the final Democrat holdouts to go along with it. The entire compromising was adding what they needed to get the final Democrat votes, not Republican.
You are either willfully ignorant or choosing to lie for your own political reasons. Either way, good job on showing your own bias.
>>74795627
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>>74795208
So... you're saying the darker the bullets, the more dangerous they are?
>>74795660
>lying this much
Go to Google right now and find the news reports of Obama meeting with republicans many times about the ACA. They kept asking for things to be removed before they could vote for it, and every single time, they went back on their word.
Seriously, look it up, or shut up.
>>74795340
>>74793918
The political Right has done nothing but compromise for the last 50 years, and look where its gotten us? We need reaction. The simple fact is that you assholes always do this.
Conservatives: "We do not want X"
Liberals: "Fine, give us a quarter of X"
Conservatives: "That sounds reasonable."
TEN YEARS LATER
Liberals: "Hey conservashits give us X."
Conservatives: "No"
Liberals: "Okay how about half of X?"
Twenty years down the line, you got what you originally wanted! The time has come to draw lines in the sand. It starts out with simple shit like "I just want lower standards of immigration" and then it turns into "A man who wants to enforce laws ALREADY ON THE BOOKS is Hitler and a rising fascist menace."
FUCK OFF. No more taking away free speech. No more taking away gun rights. No more silencing the opposition with shame tactics and doxxing. No more pulling the overton window to the far Left. No more socialism. Piss the fuck off.
>>74795607
Liberals think whatever the Jews tell them.
>>74795607
the NRA is a meme strawman like the Kochs. They regularly cooperate with the Dems, but they're a convenient scapegoat to blame for anything that happens with guns
>>74795627
You didn't even attempt to validate your argument.
>>74793918
Because thats the whole point of conservatism, to stand on principal rather than compromise. Compromise is basically giving ground and conservatives feel as though each inch lost is an erosion which accumulates over time. duh
>>74795340
>As long as the NRA keeps coming up with better ways to kill people, there will always need to be new ways to regulate it. Deal with it.
Do you even understand what the NRA is? You seem to think they're some kind of evil organization hell bent on killing children.
>>74795627
t. bobby fischer of babyfied /pol/ debates
>watch out, he'll call you hitler next people this one's a champ
>>74795627
Baudrillard is a Marxist. I quoted him because he perfectly encapsulates the modern progressive mind and why you think the way you think.
>God can't save you from progress.
Nothing can save you from decades. See you prove him right. You can't of anything beyond progress. Escape from the past which is also the present.
>>74795777
>Israel hates Obama
>Trump regularly fellates Israel
>"liberals do whatever jews tell them"
Okay son.
>>74795779
I did, you just can't grasp it.
>>74795837
I do actually. The NRA has fought for legislation that prevents proper collection of data for firearm deaths, particularly with children. Look that shit up, my friend. They might as well have pulled the trigger themselves.
>>74795208
The new thing is an attempt to ban semi-autos with detachable magazines.
Nogunz are seriously fucking stupid.
>>74794165
>they deserve to violate all of the laws of this nation to get their way
>increasingly nervous
Why is the concept of taking responsibility for one's actions seem so foreign to progressives? They are going to learn real soon.
>>74795742
Yes, I find meetings where Republicans claimed the Democrats said one thing and then went back on their word.
Wow, it's almost like there are two sides to this.
You still aren't answering that there were zero Republican votes for it. Right down to the wire it was all about getting the last Democrat votes needed and that's where they compromised. Not with Republicans, but with other Democrats.
You literally can't prove your case as it was a Democrat bill, passed entirely by Democrats, with all the compromises being to get the last Democrat votes.
There are more democats in the US by a VAST margin since at least 1975. Look it up
>>74795627
>>legitimately believing that laws don't have to adapt to the times
That's not what I stated fagtron. You were previously advocating that there are laws that are "outdated". I challenged that assertion to state that your Liberal approach is typically tantamount to just tossing the baby out with the bathwater while ignoring the core principles and history of why that law was written as it was.
You're really fucking bad at this.
>The forefathers had no law that can possible dictate something like warrants or wiretapping or anything involved with, say, data on your cellphone.
Still covered under the Fifth Amendment as written.
>That requires new legislation.
Not necessarily. The laws may need addendums to outline a different severity for the punishments involved for the convicted given that the ethical consequences of those acts aren't the same as ones involving tangible items or the boundaries of what is or is not ethically sound might need more specificity. But again you're ignoring that all of that gets built upon the foundation of the prior law.
>We've been doing this ever since the transistor was invented, you idiot.
Digital Communications are still covered by the First Amendment.
And the Second Amendment has been diluted to far less in interpretation and "compromise" than it was when written.
>Please shut up and educate yourself.
Refusing to think for myself and just swallow your authoritative swill isn't education. I can teach myself, but I have severe doubts that you have such a capacity given how much regurgitating shit you spew.
>>74795948
If the NRA actually pulled the trigger on every nigger, I'd donate double.
>>74793918
fucking awful image. since when is the conservative party is ever the one putting forth legislature? people believe this?
>>74795948
Except you didn't. Ad hominem isn't an argument. You don't know anything about firearms or their history of regulation in the US, so you have nothing to say in regards to my challenge to it. More importantly, you've dismissed my claim that liberals are totalitarian on a national scale who can't allow those who disagree with them to have agency even in a geographical areas where they are a gross majority.
>>74794165
>>74794376
>>74794747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ0pCxG5Iok
>>74795948
>The NRA has fought for legislation that prevents proper collection of data for firearm deaths, particularly with children.
You're referring to the CDC, who by the way were caught explicitly attempting to use public funds to push for policy-specific propaganda, in direct conflict with the stated mission of their agency.
https://drgo.us/?p=2919
The CDC still collects such data and there's nothing barring them from doing so. See the NVSR that they publish every year.
What they are barred from doing is publishing analysis reports without directive with an intent to influence public policy.
>>74794042
It really is like everyone is the victim in their own world.
>>74793918
I'll make it easy for you.
Conservatives are, by definition, conservative, as in, they don't exactly change their mind very often. Liberals change all the fucking time. Only 20 years ago it wasn't a NECESSITY that gays be married everywhere no matter what. Now it is. They're trendy followers of the political fashions of the day.
Now imagine "compromise" between these two factions. One changes (to the left) and one stays the same.
Keep compromising
Where is the middle ground in this tug of war going to move? It will naturally move left.
Compromise is not in the interests of conservatives because they actually stick with what they believe.
>>74796053
>Wow, it's almost like there are two sides to this.
There's a third side where both parties let enormous lobbying groups such as AARP (biggest lobbying spender in Washington by a factor of 10) directly edit the legislation. And the version of the bill that was voted one wasn't the same as the one reviewed in committee prior to the vote.
The resulting bill being shit is the fault of both parties.
>>74793918
The entire progressive liberal mindset is death by degrees.
Take 'gun control'. The liberal objective from the very beginning has been to steadily move the goalposts every generation or so until civilian gun ownership is made completely illegal. A quick look at states that have developed anti-gun legislation over time show how this works.
The entire basis of 'liberalism' is the steady subversion of morality and traditions deemed 'conservative'. This is accomplished by the indoctrination of children through the state educational apparatus, so that those children grow up and pass on their indoctrination to their children, who go into a state educational apparatus pushing a curriculum that is further to the left than that of their parents.
Conservatives played the honest dealer, the enforcer of the law and the rules up until the rise of neoconservatism. Neoconservatives, many of whom are registered Democrats, learned their subversion and propaganda tactics from the progressive liberal movement.
>>74794488
Leme rephrase this for you.
Conservatives: Preserve the Second Amendment
Liberals: BUT SOMEONE SHOT UP A SCHOOL BAN ALL THE GUNS YOURE HURTING MY FEELINGS :'(
Conservatives: A fetus is a person, so abortion should be illegal
Liberals: A fetus is not a person, women have a choice
(of all topics between the two, this one is so grey its obsecnely easy to show either side as the sperglord)
Conservatives: Normal immigration is ok, illegals have to go
Liberals: RACIST BIGOT SEXIST WAAHHHH WHY CANT YOU BE TOLERANT THEYRE ESCAPING OPRESSION
>>74796505
Don't worry
Evil whitey will be dead soon and you won't be triggered anymore.
>>74795016
Yourr a faggot traitor
I hope you get gassed
Obama put us 8 trillion MORE in debt
How have you even survived this long
Youre a faggot.
>>74796819
>Evil whitey
Too bad I don't see white people as evil. But it's almost as if you would prefer it if I did.
>>74794488
>Liberal: No we don't want to ban guns, we just want to avoid these few items that serve no purpose to hunters or self-defense.
> we just want to avoid these few items that serve no purpose to hunters or self-defense.
SHALL
Leftists NEVER compromise while the """right""" capitulates constantly. Today's """conservatism""" is the liberalism of 30 years ago. Remember when """conservatives""" used to oppose fag marriage? Now they're silent.
>>74794042
FPBP. Every leftist traitor in both the Republican and Democrat parties should be shot.
>>74795948
>I do actually. The NRA has fought for legislation that prevents proper collection of data for firearm deaths, particularly with children. Look that shit up, my friend. They might as well have pulled the trigger themselves.
I assume you're talking about the CDC investigation into gun violence. the one where they arrived at their solution, gun control, before first identifying the causes or researching gun violence. They had their own solutions already thought up and they were desperately looking for a problem to pin it on. That's not research, its propaganda.
>>74796505
I mean, we can look at gun rights for just a start, fampai.
>>74796819
im sooooo glad that this happened. even the most liberal aren't outside of the jurisdiction of the supreme left. serves em right
>>74793918
>Liberals literally do not engage in this behavior. Never in the history of the United States have liberals shut down the government or stalled the passing of bills or funding to something.
Irrelevant.
There is a system of "Yay" and "Nay" votes for a reason.
1. If enough of the people in Congress like a bill, then more people vote "Yay" than "Nay," and so, the bill passes into the next step of the process (onto the Senate or onto the Executive).
2. If enough people in Congress feel a bill is a bad one, then more people vote "Nay" rather than "Yay," and so, the bill fails.
This is how the system works. If the people in Congress hate a bill, then they vote it down or shut it out. It is then the responsibility of all those present to compromise. If no compromise is reached, then the party with the power to stall, block, or vote down has the right to continue this exercise until enough of their demands are met.
This is how it works. Your entire post consists of:
>"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH WAHHHHHHHHHH! THOSE EVIL CONGRESSMENS ARE VOTINGS NAYS! THEYS ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE VOTINGS THE YESSES!
This is not a problem, but is rather how the whole system is designed to function.
>>74794754
>>74794803
Came in to post this. Compromising with a liberal just means you start from a weaker position when they eventually come back for more. Every time conservatives are made to look like stubborn fools, you can guarantee they have already made thousands of concessions over the centuries. However a liberal's attention span is short and only extends to the last four years so they screech about the need to compromise.
>>74797051
>I don't hate whites, it was merely a ruse
no one buys it anymore.
>>74794488
>purpose to hunters or self-defense.
Wait does the Constitution say that the Second Amendment is confined to hunters and self-defense? You need to provide a reason to exercise a right?
>>74793918
>Liberals literally do not engage in this behavior. Never in the history of the United States have liberals shut down the government or stalled the passing of bills or funding to something.
Hey look, another lie I found in OPs post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdown_in_the_United_States#Federal_government
>The Democratically-controlled House continued to uphold the ban on using Medicaid dollars to pay for abortions, except in cases where the life of the mother was at stake. Meanwhile, the Democratic-controlled Senate pressed to loosen the ban to allow abortion funding in the case of rape or incest. A funding gap was created when disagreement over the issue between the houses had become tied to funding for the Departments of Labor and HEW, leading to a partial government shutdown. A temporary agreement was made to restore funding through October 31, 1977, allowing more time for Congress to resolve its dispute.
There, you have two groups of Liberals getting into a money fight over disagreements involving abortion. This happened FIVE TIMES during the Carter Administration.
And that isn't the only such example from the provided list. It's just the most absurd because it was LIBERALS VERSUS LIBERALS and they SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT while they bickered about a single issue.
Both parties have used this tactic, and it's not an illegitimate one. Your attempt to paint it as something that only Republicans have only done only shows that you can't be assed to research something before claiming it.
the biggest bait threat in history
>>74797181
sauce pls
>>74798320
>SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT
This is supposed to happen. This is what they are supposed to do.
Your only counter-argument is that you think it is petty.
>>74795340
>using the word literally
Get back to fucking Tumblr faggot.
>>74799056
Afraid I don't know, lad.
