https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
>>74779969
It didn't fucking happen.
>>74780177
/thread
>>74780177
/thread
>>74779969
>it started with politicians dividing the people with us vs them
>white privilege
>"if you are white you don't know what it means to be poor"
>cis male patriarchy responsible for everything
Do these people not grasp the irony?
>>74780177
/thread
>>74780177
Yes it did. Also
>77
>77
>88
>>74780177
/thread
>>74780177
It was real in my mind
>>74780580
No, no they do not.
THE SECRET HOLOCAUST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCan8CDuDMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRVDFf3CNF8
Human beings always divide things into "us" and "them"
Right down to the level of the individual who differentiates between himself and other people
Thats just the way it is
>>74780580
>Implying it's not a thing
>Implying radical feminists calling for castration and calling all men rapists still makes them by definition 'feminists'
>Implying any egalitarian/feminist worth their weight considers them to be part of the equality movement
>Implying you're not making false equivilances
>Implying you get to take credit for the majority of societies' advancements without accepting responsibility for the negative things perpetrated as well
the holocaust happened, denying it means you probably have some serious personal issues to deal with in your life, OR, you're a roach
Perfect representation of Obama's playbook. Divide and conquer.
>>74781480
>no true feminist fallacy
A
Actually it started in 1918 when Jews tried to take over Germany through violent revolt. In fact it started even before that, with Jews installing monarchs in various European countries.
>THE HOLOCAUST IN 10 SECONDS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUGKmCdAaN4
>THE HOLOCAUST IN 20 SECONDS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGwn5R1PC9Q
>AUSCHWITZ DOCUMENTARY BY JEWISH HISTORIAN DAVID COLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs
>MAJDANEK: TOUR OF CAMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlf0D9nuQ
>TREBLINKA, BELZEC, SOBIBOR: EYE WITNESS TESTIMONIES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
>MORE EYE WITNESS TESTIMONIES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftoAnQV-9-4
>THE LAST DAYS OF THE BIG LIE: SPIELBERG'S HOAX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8
>>74781480
>no true scotsman
Six Million Lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DijJf5OtIc
More Six Millions
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?state=&date1=1836&date2=1922&proxtext=6000000+jews
Auschwitz - Why the Gas Chambers are a Myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruD4I4f5LkQ
The Biggest Lie by David Irving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
Buchenwald - A Dumb, Dumb Portrayal of Evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HlPcaP9x5o
Zundel vs Zionist - Truth vs Lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Myxi92m4U
>>74780742
>a leaf post with a leaf opinion and a leaf's thumbnail
>The Holocaust Debunked - Ernst Zundel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp85rXHDJCo
>Holocaust Faker Explains Himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j30sWIOMIak
>The Holocaust Testimonies You Didn't Hear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtlPlZGvgY0
>Off Your Knees Germany (Ernst Zundel 1983-2003)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNO7Nxeuq_w
>One-Third of the Holocaust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
>Spielberg's Hoax - The Last Days of the Big Lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8
>The Truth Behind the Gates of Auschwitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcgofPKZnlY
>>74781553
Can you not be a roach and have serious personal issues as well?
#DOUBLETURKISHSUBSTANDARDS
A FUCKING LEAF
>>74780177
i'd approve of that message but holocaust denial is illegal in Poland.
>>74781480
>leafposters
>>74779969
It actually started with Post WW1 Germany and Jewish influence over eastern Europe.
Like today, a lot of jews happened to be leading industry in banking and financial institutions, while native germans couldn't afford bread.
Then Hitler kind of unionized the poor and started a nationalist movement.
Then Jews went into camps and poland became germany and blahblahblah.
>>74781399
Thise are some nice cherry picked pictures you've got there
>>74781399
It would be a shame if someone
>>74779969
>hating on us vs them
You mean like socialism vs conservatism? Or were you thinking more along the lines of racists vs liberal minded people?
>>74780177
/this
>>74781667
>This video is not available in your country.
>This video is not available in your country.
>This video is not available in your country.
>This video is not available in your country.
Thanks
>>74781399
Asked you to provided sources for all those claims
>>74781479
Not for Muslims it isn't. Fuck you and your binary logic.
Why is it always a leaf? I am seriously starting to think that we should nuke Canada aside from Germany/Sweden/France.
>>74779969
So this is what Advice Dog derivatives turned into.
>>74781647
>>74781683
By literal definition if they don't believe in equality then they aren't feminists, you can't claim no true scotsman in this case
>>74782096
Muslims don't discriminate against outgroups? Lol what planet do you live on, discrimination against non Muslims is literally written in Islamic scripture
>>74780177
/thread
>>74781480
>Implying you get to take credit for the majority of societies' advancements
Yeah, that's nigger behavior. Whites do not walk around claiming they wuz kings just because some other white person was a king at some point.
>>74781930
Good luck fighting fire when the pool is closed
>>74779969
Funny, I thought it started with jews fucking up Europe's economies and driving them all into incestuous prostitution simply for bread. Hmmm guess I got that wrong.
>>74781930
It's a good thing the Nazis put all the death camps where only the Soviets would find them. We all know the Soviets would be completely honest about the Nazis and never make up false charges then destroy the evidence shortly after finding it.
>>74779969
Are there any good Hollywood movies about what was going on in the Germany before Hitler took power? Or do they only focus on the effect and not the cause?
>>74781497
>These american gas chamber doors must be up to code, therefor the crude gassing killing chambers must have a stringent building code as well
>>74782497
>therefor the crude gassing killing chambers must be at the very least AIRTIGHT
>>74781654
>Citation needed
>>74781667
>>74781427
>>74781699
>>74781762
Nobody is going to watch your youtube 'documentaries', summarize it or don't bother
>>74782654
>therefor the crude gassing killing chambers must be at the very least AIRTIGHT
Why?
>>74782449
wow, this is some monumental stupidity. do you wear a helmet when you walk around outside?
Friendly reminder, do not reply to leaf posters
>>74782690
At first I thought you were just a shill, now I see you are just legit retarded. Leave this board please.
>>74782690
>Citation needed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319
Jews.
>>74782768
You wouldn't want everyone outside to die as well.
>>74779969
It started with people crossing a border claiming land lost was rightfully theirs.
>>74779969
It started with a bolshevist revolution in germany. There, have some facts.
LEAFY
>>74781930
>Thise are some nice cherry picked pictures you've got there
Where are the dead?
I'd be interested to see how many jews have been/ are being paid reparations by the German government. Somehow I bet that information will never come to light .
>>74782779
Does somebody questioning the Hoax trigger every leaf, or are the ones on this board extra brainwashed?
>>74779969
>"Us vs them"
Like
>Us vs Those Racists!
>Us vs Those Bigots!
>Us vs Those Homophobes!
>Us vs Those Transphobes!
>Us vs Those Rednecks!
>Us vs Those Gun Nuts!
>Us vs Those Nazis!
>Us vs Those AmeriKKKans!
Do I need to go on?
>>74782873
>You wouldn't want everyone outside to die as well.
They could just, you know, wear gas masks
Or stand an appropriate safe distance away
>>74781667
>THE HOLOCAUST IN 20 SECONDS
>Wataa kem down, insted ov de gass
>BTFO
>>74781877
Wrong
>>74781938
Citation needed
>>74782387
White dudes go off all the time about how they're the great liberators and educators and society is built off their back, of course they do
>>74782425
Citation needed
>>74783272
Yeah just make everyone in the camp, and in the surrounding houses, wear gas masks. Just start a fucking mini-Bhopal disaster because surely a shitty wooden door is good enough to gas hundreds of thousands of people.
>>74782449
Really you could call most of them 'death camps' seeing as how 'extermination through labor' was a policy
>>74783099
Literally every group you just listed operates with an us vs them mentality, and no one is trying to euthanize them, we're trying to end bigotey and the us vs them mentality holy fuck you are so god damn stupid
>>74783734
>extermination through labor
Starving people are pretty awful workers, being bed-ridden and incredibly weak. I do not buy into the "worked until they starved" meme.
>>74783734
Sure it was, Chaim. So, what, they only had some camps with gas chambers when they felt like taking the extermination of the Jews more seriously? They should have utilized the Holocoaster more often, imo.
>>74782873
>Some leaders of the uprising were jewish therefor the jews as a whole are responsible for their own genocide
It actually started with anti semetism back in the middle ages and never went away
>>74780177
/thread
I'm wondering why you'd kill your gravely needed wartime labour force. Has anyone come up with a rationale for that?
Also, if the goal was extermination, why not shoot them where they stand? Why waste time and money on death camps?
>>74782873
Also this
Just a reminder that jews were only sent to internment camps because no other country would take them.
There are very few ethnicities in this world that have no homeland besides Kurds and gyppos.
>>74779969
Really makes you think...
>>74784550
>bankroll revolutions before even 1066
>keep doing it
>install and bankroll English kings via Dutch banks
>do it again
>get expelled from England
>"why do they persecute me so"
>>74781497
"gas chambers" is the hugely ubiquitous MISNOMER
they were showers, not GASeous delivery rooms
xyklon-b (cyanide) pellets mixed with water and pumped into the showers
deadly water and water vapor
not gas
>>74784973
That's a point: pellets on their own would do fuck all. Literally fuck all. They'd fall to the ground, stay dry, and release nothing because, well, the boiling point of HCN is quite substantially higher than the ground would be. Body temperature, however, can boil it.
>>74783997
"bigotry" is subjective
try harder
>>74783516
Explain this then:
>>74782069
>>74781980
>>74785226
yes
true
still, not gas
water and water vapor
>>74780177
/thread
>>74784595
>>74784138
>>74783017
Why don't you read about it then?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
>>74780177
It did, but I don't fucking care.
There have been just as many terrible mass murders throughout history in both scope and malice.
>>74784595
They started with mass shootings. Einsatzgruppen soldiers started getting PTSD after shooting so many people, so they moved on to more efficient methods
>>74780177
>>74780377
>>74780488
Kek wills it.
>>74785617
Educate Yourself.
>>74780177
/thread
>>74780177
pic
>>74780377
>>74780488
>>74781133
>>74781399
>>74781699
>>74781877
>>74782211
>>74783099
>>74785344
what's going on in this thread?
>>74779969
>muh Holohoax
Pics or it didn't happen.
>>74782690
>leaf
That flag sums up all your opinions before you even state them, that is, complete retardation.
>>74786040
in b4 soviet shoops and typhus epidemics
>>74786228
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN
>>74785269
People who want equal representation and opportunity for ALL strive to stop ideologies of those that DON'T want equal opportunities for all, i.e homophobes and racists, how is this such a hard concept for you to grasp?
>>74784280
>Da soveeuts reeewrote histary cause deyz bad guiz
Well I guess we can just throw out all the testimonies of germans and personal memoirs now cause the soviets 100% fabricated lies trumps all.
OR you could stop being baited by stupid conspiracy meme photos and do some objective research. You know, play devil's advocate on your own silly paranoid beliefs for once
>>74786381
These screencaps you keep posting are big on words but small on references.
>Oy Vey goyim remember the several million people gassed byhind wooden doors.
>>74786381
>cause deyz bad guiz
How many people did the Soviets mass murder again?
>People who want equal representation and opportunity for ALL strive to stop ideologies of those that DON'T want equal opportunities for all
Does this include opening the borders because surely the 59 IQ dindu with a machete kill count of four is as entitled to western land and resources as a law-abiding western person?
>>74786381
>I guess we can just throw out all the testimonies of germans and personal memoirs now cause the soviets 100% fabricated lies trumps all.
Testimonies written under duress, and personal memoirs written after the fact trying to cash in with badly written fan fiction and horror stories. There is zero physical evidence. All the bookkeeping during the war, such as from the more objective Red Cross organization, show that there was nothing out of the ordinary. The Soviets claimed they found the chambers, but then they destroyed them for no discernible reason.
I was shocked when I discovered The Cost was a fraud too, but eventually you'll get over it.
>>74786739
>Mentions Dönitz, Speer, other high ranking german officials
>What is google
>What is nuremburg trials
Lmao
>>74785657
Now don't quote me on this, but isn't the holocaust one of, if not the worst case of racial predjudice genocide in history?
Like sheer numbers wise mao and stalim did way better but I was under the impression that there's were just more based on enemies of the state
>>74780177
/thread
>>74786919
WOODEN DOORS CAN'T HOLD ZYKLON GAS.
>>74787278
>What is nuremburg trials
Broken men saying what their torturers wish to hear.
>>74779969
It started with restricting the speech of people pointing out what Jews were up to.
>>74787040
>Testimonials don't count
Wrong
>>74787278
>worst case of racial predjudice genocide in history?
Ever heard of Timur the Lame?
He killed 5% of the world population at the time.
>>74787040
>No physical evidence
Wrong
>>74787040
>Red cross said 'All good!'
No kidding
>>74787040
>Gas chambers destroyed
Well some still exist, so there's that I suppose
>>74781980
>>74782069
Wow, this text is a whole lot of nothing.
>>74780177
/thread
>>74787721
>There was indeed some political pressure on the courts.
No shit. Everyone knows they're show trials, m8. That's not even controversial to say.
>This dilemma contradicts the Holocaust deniers' story.
It doesn't at all. It's weird they would throw that sentence in there. It's open knowledge we took Nazi scientists and the like and allowed them immunity. The US government didn't care about punishing Nazis, but it had to pretend to punish some of them for show.
>>74786927
The soviets commiting atrocities does not discount anything about the holocaust, I honestly cannot believe how fucking stupid you are
>Bla bla dindus I'm a fucking racist
Lack of education and poverty breeds hostility and anger, not genetic background.
>>74787528
>What were the frankfurt and auschwitz trials
They specifically went easier on the defendents but I don't hear you say anything about that
>>74788706
dindu nuffin
>>74787928
People died at the camps, no shit. No proof of mass extermination.
>>74788027
The ICRC and the East German government kept the same death toll until the late '70s, actually. Then they suddenly changed it when people began to criticize the narrative because a death toll around 300,000 doesn't sound like a very efficient genocide
http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-judaic-holocaust-hoax/
>>74788133
>some still exist
They're all reconstructions. Even the museums don't hide this fact.
>>74787904
Reading comprehension bro.
The wiki page for Timur says the 15 million people dead was a result of military conquest, AND his armies were multi ethnic, so to me that doesnt count as racially driven genocide, just sounds like some badass indiscriminate slaughtering.
>>74789185
>his armies were multi ethnic
So were the Nazis. The Wehrmacht were the most ethnically and racially diverse fighting force in the world at the time.
>>74780177
/thread
>>74789153
>6 million jews dead
>Piles of ashes, bones, hair
>Belongings
>Records of relocation
>Records of intent from nazi officials
>Not physical evidence of genocide
>All gas chambers are recreations
Thats completely false, there's chambers at majdanek that are original
>>74789529
That's fair, but, did Timur's military campaign include specific goals about racial genocide?
Again, I'm not so much concerned about the semantics of whether or not the holocaust was the biggest racially driven genocide in history, just more curious than anything.
Really I'm just more concerned about the mental gymnastics that people go through to spread holocaust denial.
>>74783272
There has been tons of photos of these death camps, including dead people. I'm sure you could find a picture of a nazi soldier with a gazmask somewhere, can you? Gasmasks didn't magically disappear once the war was over.
Also the guy is making claim based on pictures, so if you can't provide picture, then don't try to argue.
>>74789596
You are incorrect, I'm afraid. All the gas chambers are reconstructions.
Also, even the Holocaust museums don't claim six million died. Their number is much lower now. All the other stuff you mentioned is not evidence of genocide. The Nazis wanted to deport Jews as the German word for "uproot" is often mistranslated (on purpose) as exterminate.
>>74789842
>Timur's military campaign include specific goals about racial genocide?
Neither did Hitler's. But why does that matter? Does it somehow make the mass murdering more righteous when it's done for the "right" goals?
>>74789596
Fuck off ignorant leaf.
>>74782690
>Nobody is going to watch your youtube 'documentaries', summarize it or don't bother
You want a summary? It didn't fucking happen.
You want an explanation? Watch the damn videos.
>>74790379
That's completely wrong, not all of them are reconstructions
https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-surviving-original-gas-chambers-from-the-Holocaust
Citation needed for museum claims.
Who cares what you think about their intentions, it still fucking happened!
>>74790547
>What is the final solution
Yes it did
>>74791326
Do you want a summary?
Read the fucking thread.
Read the wiki link.
Stop reading/watching stupid revisionist bullshit from people who have no formal education and want to be speshul snowflakes by enlightening the world and waking them up to the truth.
Holocaust denialism is disingenuous and dangerous because it downplays historical facts, allowing people to think that such attrocities couldn't actually occur, and thereby allowing them to happen again.
>>74791668
*meant to have 'yes it did' for
>>74791326
Not
>>74790547
>>74791948
>that picture
You have to go back. I'm sure reddit misses you.
>>74791365
>quora
Literally just some random guy.
>citation needed for museum claims
Look it up yourself. I really don't care if you believe me.
>>74779969
SCREEN CAPPED FOR POSTERITY!
>>74779969
>Non-whites get manhandled and have to go back
Oh wow it's fucking nothing
>>74779969
IF THAT'S ALL IT TAKES THEN THIS SHOULD BE EASY.. LETS GET THIS THING STARTED!
>>74780177
/thread
>>74780177
/thread
first post best post as always.
Dubs = truth
>>74780177
It did you faggots
But(and here are the things that people swallowed by being brain-washed):
-no muh 6 million
-no gas(there are splitted opinions but still, if it happened , it didn't occured not even in half of the camps)
-hitler didn't started immediately killing them , just wanted to deport them out of the country since he realised they were killing the values of the society.(Economy firstly)
-He offered peace offers multiple times
Many other fucking reasons which i think u guys already know that show he was rational all along (maybe less at the very end).
>>74782423
oc jus for youse guis
>>74792094
Building no 41 @ majdanek, zyklon b blue staining
>>74792094
>The auschwitz gambit
>>74793463
>>74791365
>>74789596
>>74788027
>>74787928
>>74787721
>>74786381
>>74784638
>>74784550
>>74783734
>>74782069
>>74781980
>>74781930
I like how you keep referring to Wikipedia as a source.
Wikipedia, the encyclopedia that is renowned for being completely objective about every single fact in the entire history of mankind and is edited by credited historians, doctors and scientists all over the world.
/s
>>74793972
And its most definitely not subject to laws regarding holocaust denial.
>>74779969
Yeah it started with Jews being money grabbing Jews for 1900~ + years and not stopping even though there was a pretty solid indication that this wasn't appreciated.
>>74793972
>Not all of them are wikipedia
>Wikipedia has citations to sources
>Implying it's less trustworthy than fucking half assed denialist memes comprised of half truths made by fucking morons who have a personal agenda rather than an interest in historical objectivity
Please, go ahead and refute the content in the links I've posted instead of attacking the links themselves, I'll be waiting
>>74793355
The camp was broken down and used as a prison by the Soviets:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdanek_concentration_camp
A lot of it had to be reconstructed because of this. The rest was used by the Soviets, so we have no way of knowing how the Nazis used it. So, yes, it has been reconstructed too.
I don't doubt there is residue from pesticides used on infestations, however.
>>74793463
False.
>>74779969
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#STOPISRAELIHOLOCAUST
>>74794392
Hesus H. Christ m8, how much do they pay you for this?
>>74794546
Let me link you to these two posts again to show how once again you are wrong:
>>74781980
>>74782069
>False
Explain your reasoning
>>74794992
6 million shekels
>>74779969
So it started with people like Bernie Sanders who creates a direct line between the rich and the poor, says the workers deserve special rights, and increase government spending by taking more from business owners and investors. Yeah soundshe real fucking familiar.
>>74779969
Remembet, us poc have to stick together. The whites are keeping us down with white supremacy, they hate us, and they have everything locked down. Its all in their favor, so we gotta stick together. Only when the whites are gone can we be free.
Lol btw Drumpf is Hitler.
>>74782069
>NO as in ZERO
Is this actually Wikipedia?
I thought they used to try to look professional.
>>74795100
Your text is flawed. There is too little HCN by magnitudes (notice how that criticism isn't addressed) to suggest mass killings. The reason why there is trace amounts of HCN at all is because the walls were painted and the paint absorbed some. Research that report you're obsessed with, the author even admits this possibility. It's most reasonable explanation given how little HCN was found.
Also, I would like to see a scientific study on tiny insects needing more cyanide to kill them than humans. Sounds like utter bullshit to me.
>Explain your reasoning
My reasoning is that the museum put out the plaque with the four million itself. To say that "no Western scholars" have ever claimed that number is preposterous.
>>74795541
>The writing style of these links is crude and discredits scientific facts!
Nice one.
Btw only half the links are wikipedia
>>74789842
Religious motivations perhaps.
>>74795871
The writing style indicates that it was written by someone who is not an expert in the field but feels very strongly on the subject regardless.
In other words it was written by the least qualified person to hold any sort of opinion and I would just as soon disregard opinions from deniers if they were presented similarly.
>>74795724
You didn't even read it.
Exposure time + dosage = concentration of HCN absorbed by walls.
The report finds that the delousing chambers have far more residue than the gas extermination chambers, which is in line with 300ppm dosage/15min vs 16 000ppm dosage vs 72 hours
They would have found no traces had there been no exterminations.
And your article picture completely contradicts what you've said!
>>74794546
>The decision to revise the official number of those killed in the nazi camp was a formal rejection of original figures generated after the war by the soviet union, which still holds the records kept by the camp's commanders.
>It is also in line with figures used by historians in west germany, the united states and israel who have documented the number of victims of the holocaust
>>74797115
Holy shit, you don't even understand your own sources! This is hilarious.
>They would have found no traces had there been no exterminations.
Incorrect. Go and re-read it. You don't understand it.
>And your article picture completely contradicts what you've said!
No, it doesn't at all.
>>74796210
Perhaps, but not racial
>>74796570
I happen to agree with your sentiments, but it's still no rebuttal to claim regardless of its writing style
>>74797483
It literally says here:
>>74782069
that if the gas chambers had been used for something other than mass murder, then zero residue would be found there. This is a false assumption as I've already explained because the paint absorbed it.
>It's started with 'us vs. them'
99% vs. The 1%
>>74797483
Oh. My. Fuck
>Thus, the walls of the delousing facility should have a much greater concentration of detectable cyanide today, which is what the original Leuchter report and the Polish report both confirm.
Higher concentration found on delousing chamber vs extermination chamber in line with ppm concentration in dosage of extermination vs delousing
Proportions ffs
>Western sources don't claim 4 million
>Uh yea they do
>Your article literally says western sources don't claim 4 million
It's a complete contradiction
I'm out, stay stupid stormfag
>op has 3 posts
>wiki as a source
>>74798695
>>74782069
From your article here:
>>74782069
>If the gas chambers were used for something other than murder, NO as in zero cyanide should have been found there. Not even the smallest trace amount. The fact that Leuchter did find trace amounts of cyanide in the gas chamber walls confirms... that they were, in fact, gas chambers.
I gave an alternative explanation for the trace amounts found, but you chose to ignore that because it doesn't fit your narrative.
>Western sources don't claim 4 million
They did at one time, yeah? I'm not sure how you can deny this when the museum itself officially recognized those numbers, as well as the Germans. It doesn't matter though.
The point is that the six million is ridiculous, with or without the revisions.