So Europe is inhabitated pretty much by Germanics and Slavs
Germanics are very aware of their barbaric past, the Germans used to be even proud of it until it fucked them totally up in the XXth century
The Danes have no problem with seeing themselves as we wuz Vikings, the conquerors of the world (at least this is how one polish historian described it)
But the other group, namely Slavs, have no comparable tradition. There's nearly no slavic mythology present in the public and, afaik except some minor russian movements, nobody really described themselves as Slavs, to a comparable extent as the northern nations
So why is it this way? What are the traits of the Slavs? What is the role of the Slavs in Europe?
>>74777146
It's ironic the Witcher is from Poland
>>74777146
Because Slavs are the niggers of Europe. And if niggers didn't exist, they'd be the niggers of everywhere.
>>74778034
WE WUZ WITCHERS N SHIZ
>>74777146
Slavs converted to Christianity and that was that
Probably something to do with the fact that most slav nations were at one point in time - but most very early on - under one empire or another, and subsequently they took on the mythology of their rulers.
Scandinavians were introduced to christianity fairly later on, as opposed to slavs, whose mythology etc. was dismissed as heresy/paganism before anything could be promptly written down or documented.
How the fuck are you from Poland and you don't know a single thing about Slavic mythology? It's all there, and has several parallels with other European myths and legends.
iirc one of the Slavic gods is just a giant ass Toad
>>74777146
What the fuck are you on about Slavs have great myths.
>>74778634
Slovenia understands what I'm talking abour
>>74777146
because what we call "Slavs" were only recognized as a group of people until after Christ died
>I'm a self hating Slav and have betrayed my heritage for the hope of being accepted as a "Western" nation.
>Ergo, all Slavs have no pride in their heritage.
>>74778272
But 'niggers' kicked half Europe to their knees. U just trash who think yourself as ubermensches, but IRL fear every non-White.
Slaves role is to save Europe nation and destroy it's own.
The thing I'm still the most proud of is the mass graves of Poles we have created between the Sudetes and the Weichsel
Pictelated. Polish Priests getting literally BTFO.
>>74780165
My Grandpa is still very proud of Dresden he likes to call it the
>barbecue of the krauts.
>>74779880
>But 'niggers' kicked half Europe to their knees
But thanks to russian strategic depth and the number of the Russians. It took 22 million Russians to destroy Germany
>>74780165
How is that related to the topic Heini?
>>74780609
Half of this millions was prisoner of death and concentration camps. Pure fighting we always win and u know it untermensch.
>>74780544
Silly Americans. If you want a good barbeque you don't use your coal. You use the more clean Gas
>>74777146
Communism.
>>74777146
>Be polish
>WE WUZ SAVERS ONZ
>PRUSSIA WUZ OUR SERVANTZ ONZ!
>WE WUZ KNIGHTS
>get fucked by franks, goths, sueds, saxons, french, germans, russians, germans again, russians again, even mongols
>get to be slaves over and over, not even own the same land for longer then 100 years, cannon fodder and murdered in a crusade for being pegans
Do slavs really need a rich tradition?
To be honest the only good thing about slavs today is that they are the strongest christian communities and probably the last once who will fight islam. Not like men vs beast but rats vs roaches.
>>74780609
You claimed I'm not proud of my ancestors being Polack killers from both sides. This insult cannot stand.
>>74780755
>Pure fighting we always win and u know it untermensch
I always thought this was because of a structural advantage that Russia has over other european countries, namely the size and the numbers. Only look at how much territory Germany was able to conquer
>>74780767
You should know Hans. :D :D
>>74777146
Mostly because of Communism. Communism is against traditionalism and preserving national/ethnic identity. Not only was there no effort to preserve Slavic remains i believe they were also a target.
>>74777146
It's less that they don't have it and more that fewer of the original sources survived throughout history, with the influence of communism having done its part to erode identity over almost a houndred years.
>>74780917
Ah, now I understand. Well, some people have a hard time admitting failures of the past and coming to terms with a dramatic collapse of the nation, a blank point
>>74780876
>Be german
>get your territory reduced by like 9 centuries
>>74780876
>Do slavs really need a rich tradition?
they're the second largest ethnic group in Europe, so I find it weird that it has no developed tradition
>>74780609
polska dindu butshek detected
>>74777146
Because commies.
>>74781570
This.
>>74777146
Because most of what you know of Germanic pagan tradition isn't actually Germanic pagan tradition, it's 19th century national romanticism. Vikings didn't wear those horned helmets, that was just stuff Wagner invented and so on.
Slavs didn't really have a national romanticism so they didn't go through the same process of inventing tons of art and literature based on a few surviving bits of information about their pagan culture.
Finns caught the national romanticism bug from Germanics of course but it just produced a lot of memes because we never could decide between we wuz mongols, we wuz goths, we wuz chinks, we wuz sumerians and all other camps. Plus Finnic paganism was still kind of alive in remote villages then so we have much more information about it than Germanics or Slavs.
>>74781217
I think this has a fairly large part to play in what OP is speaking about. Then again, now Germans and western Europe are being governed by a new socialist entity (the EU) and they are themselves at the forefront of destroying national identities of Europe while the Slavic parts of Europe are trying to hold on to their identity. Interesting how the tides turn but that is the way Europe has worked for a long, long time.
>>74777146
slavic mythology is the same as german with different names.
>>74777146
I think the mongols fucked everything up when they conquered you guys, but I don't think that fuly explains it. They rules a few generations though.
>>74781889
Fuck of Finland, you are not even germanic or slavic, noone is sure where you guys came from.
>>74781961
I've actually heard it said that Europe always comes in two extremes; one expressed by Germanics and one by Slavs. Good on you for having gotten the lucky draw this time around.
>>74781105
Did you know that a regular city of the same size of the Auswitch camp had the same number of crematory ovens?
>>74780165
This one has a proxy and tries to incite hatred upon the germans. A german wouldn't write like that.
Fuck you jew.
>>74782021
Mongols only conquered west russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun
>>74782382
They merged the 3 russian kingdoms into 1 entity which still exists today. Without the mongols there wouldn't be a russia today.
Noone cares lol
>>74782139
Calm down Hans, I love Germanic national romanticism as an art movement. But it's not true at all that Germanics had more surviving traditions than Slavs, you just had an intellectual movement to fill the gaps and make lots of new stuff.
Reinventing is really better than preserving anyway, it's not like pagans had anything useful to say about modern life in industrial cities.
>>74777146
>What is the role of the Slavs in Europe?
To squat.
>>74782805
How much vodka to start dancing like that
>>74777146
Slavic Europe has a rich pagan past, it is just obscured, lost, forgotten etc. because of Christianity. There is a lot that we don't know and that is entirely misunderstand and misrepresented in modern society about Germanic paganism as well. People think of Vikings as these cartoonishly brutish men drinking beer out of horns and running into battle yelling "THOR GIVE ME POWER!!!". But they did not battle everyday or even a lot really, and they didn't even believe Thor (or any other deity) to "literally" exist as a man with a hammer who was "literally" up in the sky somewhere smacking a hammer down. It was a symbol for storms and thunder. They knew thunder and storms exist- therefore Thor did exist. Period. The way modern people, especially most "neo-pagans" view Germanic spirituality and mythology is embarrassingly "Christian" and "Hollywood" even.
>>74783105
Murifat gets it for once
>>74779238
That is very clearly a humanized horse
>>74777146
My mother had been living in Vyatka for a third of her life before she moved to Moscow and her branch of my ancestry is made up of pure northeastern slavs (descending from the Vyatichi tribe probably).
She told me stories about numerous followers of rodnoverie (the name of slavic pagan religion interpretation is Russian) and various other interpretations in rural areas of Vyatka. This is due to the fact that christianity was late to reach these areas due to harsh climate and terrain, thus paganism still exists there to a certain degree.
About your specific question, well, germanic people were clearly defined politically and socially, while slavs were always divided.
>>74781889
Well Romanticism was all about the pagan inspiration
Nevertheless it seems to me that especially the Germans were much more aware of their pagan roots and it resonated among people
You have Teutoburg, the idea of Germania as the area that has to destroy the "Rome"
Slavs didn't have these things and polish poets and writers of the romantic period have left a lot of works that relate to slavic roots
>>74781889
Those horns are made in hollywood, norsemen used a horn to drink mead.
>>74777146
They are our last hope against islam and the left
>>74777146
Basically Germanic society was literate to some degree before Christianization, and Christianized voluntarily. In the Slavic countries they were illiterate and converted at swordpoint.
>>74780165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtgJ4FjYu18
>>74784327
Germanic society was not Christianized voluntarily. They were bribed, fooled, duped, threatened etc. and mostly it was a "slow process" as in even the ones who said "Okay, I'll recognize your foreign God"- continued to practice paganism but pretended or gradually practiced Christianity alongside it for political and social purposes.
>>74782523
>They merged the 3 russian kingdoms into 1 entity which still exists today
What 3 kingdoms? we had like gorillion small principalities when mogols invaded, a bit less after because they wiped out over half of them.
Moscow managed to unify russians eventually and BTFO mongols.
>>74784759
What do you think about fomenko and his view on mongols?
>>74784759
I think my countryman is confused and thinks there was white Russia, small Russia and great Russia as kingdoms before Mongols.
oh start here, my scholar. Lech, Czech and Rus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech,_Czech,_and_Rus
>>74777146
They never developed a alphabet nor had significant impact upon the rest of Europe, except some raids, prior the christianization.
>>74784964
The guy is math professor making up historical stuff that sells. I can't take him seriously.
>>74785384
Isn't russian people fault that buy into that kind of crap? He would be pennyless if he had zero sales.
>>74779880
Half Europe is slav though
Because we decided christianity was cool and said fuck you to the past
unlike barbarians
>>74785347
(South) Slavs had huge impact on Europe.
You don't understand what Europe meant at that time.
Eastern Roman Empire fought a lot of wars with Slavs, and ERE was center of Europe at that time.
France, Germany, and rest were pretty irrelevant at that time.
Anyway OP is wrong, a lot of Slavic culture survived, for example in 19th century Croatia you still had ancient Slavic customs practiced.
But as someone above said, a large part of Germanic mythology is from 19th century.
>>74783105
i dont know about that. people today legitimately beleive jesus is watching them masturbate i woudlnt put it past people of the past to really beleive thor was an actual entity that they could potentially interact with
>>74780165
I can smell the jew from here
>>74785997
Poles were the jewish best allies back in the days, so being glad if a pole die is not wrong
As for Slavs being some subhumans:
Slavs are literally the wall of Europe that has shielded it from Islam for a millenia. Russia removed so much kebab and rekt the ottoturks so many times it's ridiculous. Croats and Serbs, along with non slavic Hungarians were protecting the Austrian - Ottoman border for centuries; the pope literally called Croatia "The bullwark of Christianity" (this even has a wikipedia page). Not to mention Poland's involvement in 1683 which is on par with the victory at Tours. Without Slavs dying on the fringes of the continent so that Western and Northern Euros can do useful shit like invent everything modern, you get what you have today: the so called elite übermensch Britbongs, Germanics and Frenchies voluntarily taking in as many Arabs, Turks, Pakis, niggers and other subhumans and gloriously reaping what they sew, without doing much against it because it would be "wrong". Meanwhile the V4 told the EU to fuck off with refugee quotas.
As for why there's not much mythology left:
Slavs converted to Christianity fairly early on, before they were able to write down any of the traditions, and later during the nationalist movements, they already had their Christian religions and didn't need pagan mumbo jumbo to boast about their überness or whatever. Also, lots was lost / supressed early on intentionally by Christians.
>>74785514
It's basically a conspiracy theory. People love them everywhere. Imagine someone writng book about Brasil colonizing Portugal and having brazilian colonies all over the world and how history was rewritten by spaniards and their jewish counterparts to keep you down.
>>74785777
That's what I said with raids.
Slavs only become significant after christianization
Belobog
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belobog
Chernobog
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobog
>>74777146
We don't have much we wuz kangz epics because we were relatively peaceful people that mostly wanted to just live their lives and be fucking left alone, but various warring tribes surrounding us disagreed. Not unlike today really.
>>74786318
>Peacefull
Please, stop
>>74786397
No.
>>74780165
>>74786234
>Slavs only become significant after christianization
Pre-chrisitan Rus played a part in Byzantium history and destroyed Khazar khaganate. We ruined the first jewish attempt to rebuild their state. Give us some credit.
>>74786318
>peaceful people
>not backwards af
Literally not even Phrygian cap-tier sub-barbarians
Bulgarian paganism and tengrism is still famous in our national identity from what I have seen. History books also stress it.
Also this>>74782461
>>74781618
wew lad
>>74782461
noiceone
>>74781889
A)Slavs were just too similar to their neighbors,
see: "vikings" probably got inspired by bare-naked, drug frenzy "wolf-warriors". There were Slavic pirates - "chąsnicy".
viking is a term for a raider, reaver - Slavs were raiding shit left and right WITH and AGAINST other Slavs and Scands alike.
B) It's not a well-researched topic^ I bet you didn't heard about it. It's even obscure here.
C)There's a quite strong theory, based on linguistics, that's actually the West is borrowing words from the East, not the other way around.
Slavic mythology is probably not that well know for reason: it's not exotic enough, it's "subpar" to the Western Occident-centric scholar, there are no written sources.
Why? Probably because my forefathers used wood for EVERYTHING. This usually, barred some specific conditions(Novgorod birch tree tablets in muddy clay), backfires and leaves no signs.
That doesn't mean this will be left forever - our knowledge is constantly expanded with new discoveries.
>>74777146
We also don't know exactly what is a Slav proper. Quite likely it has a Sarmatian/Scytian/Aryan substratum. There's still a debate, whether Slavs are "invaders" or "invaded" - and it starts to point to the latter.
>>74786576
>We ruined the first jewish attempt to rebuild their state.
>implying they were ever exiled from Israel
Fug, this fairy tale is the worst fucking thing. They were never exiled from Israel, just as they were never Egyptian slaves. Romans didn't "exile" people, just as Egyptians didn't randomly enslave entire nations.
Why do the Juhs always have to exaggerate historical events so hard?
NOT THAT ANYONE CARES:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_mythology
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madara_Rider
>>74786123
During the Chechen wars our army shelled entire houses full with mudslimes.
They were told to either give out the terrorist scum or army will bomb the house with everyone inside. Simple as that.
That is the only proper way of treating muslims. They are the breed incapable of logic, they respect only raw power, which they fear.
>What is Perun?
>What is Svargo?
>What is Baba Yaga?
I could go on.
>>74786903
>Sarmatian/Scytian/Aryan
I've actually met some Iranian nationalists who claim Russians/Ukrainians/Poles as "their people" based on this.
>>74786504
Yeah, and then Gemans started to exterminate us from the very fuckin day one of the war.
Because Hitler was Pilsudski fanboy.
What a bull of crap, Eire.
>>74787267
Baba yaga is spooky. Grandma used to pretend as her and then blow my belly. Spoopy
>>74786903
>Slavic mythology is probably not that well know for reason: it's not exotic enough
We got 3-headed dragons and our main bad guy Kaschey is basically an undead king. How coщl is that? Can west even compete?
>>74787359
>I've actually met some Iranian nationalists who claim Russians/Ukrainians/Poles as "their people" based on this.
I've actually met turkish nationalists in person when I was in vacation in germany that claimed western roman empire on share wolf mythology and catholic cross is from central asia tengrism.
>>74787594
Don't forget >>74786282
Pokémon Sun and Moon likely adapts them as the new Legendary Pokémon, so expect interest in Slavic mythology to spike in a few months.
>>74778272
Spoken like true white trash, nigger.
>>74787359
Some eastern people do look slavic as fuck. Who knows.
>>74787359
Back in our "Golden Era" our noblemen came with an idea - WE WUZ SARMATIANS. It got ridiculed in the Enlightenment and ever since.
But genes don't lie. There's a link bright as day - yet it's very hard to interpret it correctly - such as was it a nationwide, or just a ruling class? The vector of migration - West or East?
Ancient Indian texts say it came form the West - Ancient Persians/self-proclaimed Aryans(people) Iranians - said it came from the West. To the West there's only Slavs/Sarmatians.
Well, for some reason, Sanskrit words that Hindis couldn't ever (EVER) decipher can be deciphered in some/majority of cases using basic knowledge of Polish (probably the most pure form of Slavic at its core, not boasting).
There's something in here - and it it glorious - no matter what it is in the end.
>>74777146
>So why is it this way?
The christians did what both AQ and ISIS has done, and ISIS still do. They try to wipe out any traces off the past, and past religion.
Here we had some firesouls that saw our previous customs fade, and the poems one recided by hand for milennia in cases.. started to vanish.
So they started writing it down. Many we don't know the author of, but the icenigger Snorri Sturlasonur wrote shitloads.
So in this way it's preserved in the eddas, hávamál, many other old poems of different kinds. And you got the sagas, which contains a lot of details around many customs, many of pol would puke of prolly kek.
Well my theory. Did the christians burn, remove and not write down history and your pagan stories/myths/lore ? I bet this is it isn't it? They succeeded deleting it?
Not all was kept here ofc.
Funny shit is that at IE greenland when shit turned bad, they killed the bishop and returned to the old ways. I'm tired and baked and don't bother to verify, but I think it was in 13xx a bishop was sent back when this was learned, to christian them again. He never returned, but it looks like he ended up down in markland where people had moved. See Kensington runestone, it matches what we know of this story. If I'm not confusing two.
Also not pracitcing heathen here, read most shit, and read the old tongue and iceniggerish etc. Soon 20 years since I started reading.
>>74786123
>Slavs are literally the wall of Europe that has shielded it from Islam
And mongols
>>74787594
>>74787267
Haha I remember being scared as a child into behaving with threats that Baba Yaga would get me.
The Slavic pagan religions are very deep and complex and are so close to the identity of Slavs that despite christianity's outright destruction and suppression of every pagan they could find it still survives in these everyday myths and bogeyma that no where else exist.
I recall the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth tolerated pagans for a long time, so if any sources regarding Slavic paganism exist they probably come from there.
I tried to do research on this, looked at amazon, I found no cheap or accessible books but quite a few rare and $100+ text books on pre-christian Slav religion.
It's really fascinating as a subject, I just wish I had a more concrete and scholarly source to use aside from my parent's folktales.
I mean, the Norse have the Eddas and Greeks have the Epic Poems, etc. but Slavs don't have much beyond oral tradition...
>>74787594
3(multi)headed dragons are a common Indoeuopean MEME.
Funny thing - phoenix.
It's not a Greek invention - maybe a Cretan one, still- no etymology. But guess who has those birds too?
Slavs.
Raróg - Żarptak - a firebird. Even this "etymology-less word" can be backtraced to płomień - "fire".
It's hiding in plain sight, all of this. A great clusterfuck of ignorance, lies and arrogance.
>>74788288
just look up old slav children fairytale books
they are rooted pretty deep into old hearsay traditions
I would say Slavic romantics do not really care about that time. Czechs were writing about hussites and medieval period, Poles were writing about catholicism and their commonwealth and Russians have their byliny about early medieval heroes.
>>74781889
Akshually we did have national romanticism, if we didn't I'll be posting under different flag. But the people involved in it mostly focused on (re)constructing our language and history, writing why are Germans bad and how awesome Hussites were.
There were few people who collected paganic myths, but with the exception of Erben´s work where the myths were transformed into ballads, all the myths were processed into fairy tales and remained a literature for children
>>74788184
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone
ironicly what's left beside from the ships we've found in the mounds(people actually move away in fear when they do this, not kidding) is prev pic and this.
The big Hofs were burned down, and on top of them churches was raised. These carvings man, you must just see them for your self. You won't find churches like this. Well here a lot of shit is preserved, combined christian and heathen shit everywhere
>But the other group, namely Slavs, have no comparable tradition
Lol wut
Only nations that have rich barbaric heritage of pagan traditions are proto-viking countries like norway or denmark, french and germans are as clueless about their true barbaric past as slavs, christianity swiftly wiped any testimonies of these, places of pagan cult and traditions
What was the last time you heard about german pantheon of gods, frankish pantheon, and a viking one? Exactly. You never heard about german or french pre-christianity sagas, because they were destroyed by new religion, like it was normal for christian priests
Also you are wrong about slavs being clueless about them being slavs, notion is there and its strong
Inb4 all germanics were vikings
bro I have 4 thick books full of slavic and slovak legends at home what are you smoking
>>74788493
Yeah but all european dragons have one head I believe. Our got 3. We win.
Oriental pre-muslim dragons had a lot more though.
>>74788288
>im going to point out my own numbers
It's also worth knowing that not only did Slavic tribes live in parts of what is modern day Poland, but Celtic and Germanic tribes did, too.
There is undoubtedly some similarities and inter-religious cultural exchange between them.
Perun/Thor is just the most striking example that I can think of.
this is going on my body, once this guy gets home to ink me
>>74788288
Did you know that even in 20ties and 30ties of XXc in some regions of Poland people had domesticated snakes, that hunted for rodents?
I knew about this "saucer of milk for the viper" tradition, but I always assumed it was some ancient custom from semi-legendary times. But there are ethnological studies from the XX c. that prove that this and many more ancient customs survived.
The slavs were too busy getting raped by Hunnic and Mongol hordes to maintain their culture so it disappeared. Just look at how many different people have ruled the slavic countries in the last 2000 years.
>>74788493
Firebirds is a very common mythological concept. Likely comes proto-Indo European mythology, but actually goes beyond even that, since there are also Fenghuang and Ho-ō in China and Japan.
>>74788288
Yeah, lack of literary sources is a massive problem. The Epic Poems are essentially the Greek Torah, and most of the other things comes from Apollodorus' Biblioteca. And that's for a culture with a lore of written records.
Christianity performed real atrocities when it comes to preservation of history and culture. It's like only the Jews' ethnogenesis matters.
>>74788763
whoops wrong file
either way, qt slav girl for everyone
>>74788513
I think I will. There's valuable insights even within fairy tale books, because they come from a long oral tradition.
Again. I want to read some well-educated Slav professor read and examine all these christian compiled records and tolk tales and attempt to make as non-biased as possible book of collections of Slavic mythology, like Snorri did for Norse in his Younger Edda
>>74788761
can't compete here as far as I can tell
But we do have 1,3,6,9 and even 11 head trolls I do believe.
leaked documentary, somewhat recommended or watchable nork doc
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707/
>>74783105
This. People converted and forgotten.
However we still have many traditions. For example, this year my villages started to burn witches again, which has originated from celts.
Many older people still curse in Perun's name.
>>74788844
this is a new idea - I've heard about semi-domesticated(they cannot be tamed ) weasels that used to work like cats.
Snakes are very exotic.
>>74783105
this.
Thank you
>>74788895
I don't think we're that old, actually. Came to Europe in 6-7 century, after hunns.
>>74787594
Who's this semen demon?
>>74788288
We actually hear in school about Marzanna or First Fern Flower:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzanna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fern_flower
So I think OP's claim is a bit weird.
>>74789101
>whoops wrong file
Implying you didn't do it on purpose.
>>74789021
How do you deal with turks going full on WE WUZ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74F8qSF6egA
>>74782805
this is a 10/10 in russia
>>74789122
>this year my villages started to burn witches again
Whoa, Czechia, going all Hussite again?
>>74788763
>Perun
I'm pretty certain the Perun deity has its origins in ancient indo european time period meaning the indo european travelers brought it to Europe, because like I said I'm certain that I read about it somewhere.
>>74788844
domesticated snakes for hunting rodents, damn is that even possible. Is this a fact?
We know that way back in the times people actually imported snakes from Afrika prolly or even fucking samarkand.. might have changed many hands.
anyways
>real Ragnarr Loðbrók, king of denmark
>went to Agder norway, placename lost
>vicious snake thar, people couldn't kill it cause it SPIT poison
viking age, gator got to big so I tried to flush it thing FL style..
>ragnar took some clothing and boiled it in "bek" tar/oil/gue..
>wore this and killed this venomn spitting snake
this is why he got the nickname there
heh.. people didn't know.. we know there was indians in Tunsberg but I have a hard time matching this with the time of Ragnar lived on the spot here. Snakes, reptiles they were always popular here kek
>>74789672
http://www.azerbaijanrugs.com/arfp-kazak-bordjalou_ichibosh-224x358cm.htm
>>74778634
I am pretty sure Poland as well as the Eastern Slavs converted almost at the same time as Scandinavia.
>>74789735
Nah just cloth figures.
For now.
>>74789751
it's the other way around.
Aryans were the conquerors of India.
>>74789432
Vasylisa Prekrasnaya, a standard beautiful girl bad guys kidnap all the time. Usually she's also smarter then her heroic rescuer.
>>74788844
Holy shit that's awesome.
>>74789751
Some quick research on that led to me links to info on Slav myths but also Indian, suggesting a very close relationship between this and the ancient original Indo-European religions.
>>74789813
you were 200 years after us were you not?
Lithuanians are not slavs, but they held out to the fucking 1600ds?
There's slavic mythology, and its just as unknown for most as Germanic ones. It's because the Church did a lot of shit so people stopped caring about their roots, its the same here. But even then we have some pagan stuff mixed into Catholic doctrines, some holidays based on pagan holidays and so on.
The Church cucked us all with a jewish God.
>>74789771
Someone said SNEKS?
http://www.evus.it/it/index.php/news/reportage/il-santo-dei-serpenti/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBz8Ag_r5eo
>>74789160
Well, from what I remember, people put saucers of milk as an offering to vipers, just like they threw a piece of meal over their shoulder as offering for the house gnomes.
It was an "taming the unnatural" thing, as snakes and vipers especially were seen as magical.
However, as I mentioned before, in the first part of XXc ethnologists claimed they saw domesticated snakes living in houses and barns in some villages, being offered milk by villagers.
>>74777146
Anti-whites want to undermine the morality of whites, and because Anglosphere with its Germanic traditions is the biggest white ethnic group, they push pre-European paganism to undermine the Christian religions here. Yes, it's an anti-white establishment.
>>74780767
That picture looks so fucking fake.
>>74789983
this
Same here too, we still call some of the seasons christianity grabbed to be compatible here by their heathen name, like jul/jól - Christmas.
The differnce is that we just eat the ribs instead of going in the barn, slaughtering the animal, collecting the blood, painting the god figures with it, the altar, squirting it on the people then painting the walls red of it.. then it it... kek
Slavs didn't have a written language and when they did they were already christian
The things is Slavs didn't really write things down. That came much later. But the customs are saved through oral tradition and customs.
For example in Serbia we burn oak tree at Christmas eve. Badnjak. And that is a remnant of old Slavic traditions it was simply modified and adapted to Christianity.
>>74789940
there's virtually no good work on Ancient Vedas - because Hindus don't understand shit. Europeans actually went (XX-XXI century)and sorted it out in any coherent way, because Vedas etc. are just a collection of abstract holy words and rituals that nobody in India understands.
It turns out ancient Aryans were pretty much coherent, cold-headed deists. It's mindblowing. The message devolved and spawned a shitton of "gods" and mindless shit.
>>74789950
Lithuanian king, Władysław Jagiełło, was baptized in the end of the XIVth century. Polish duke Mieszko was baptised in 966 and Kiev in 988 iirc
>>74789837
So you be saying proto slavs (white europoid r1a carriers) didn't evolve from albinism but instead invaded northern india? And actually I've thought of that also. I mean if that's true then those white europoid r1a carriers probably had like 80, 90 if not 100 percent r1a in their blood.
Now in this pic some guy did a facial reconstruction of the tarim mummies, how does he look in your opinion? It seems he looks closer to modern day eastern europeans desu than to other euros.
>>74789819
But is it in some context?
We have an effigy of Marzanna, representing winter, which we burn and then throw into a river on the first day of spring.
Is it something like that?
>>74780755
Funfact, before firearms became common on European battlefields you couldnt even beat commonwealth. One your peasant were armed with muskets and could be trained in using it in few weeks you were able to send goriliions of troops. Whole Russian tactics is based on sending enormous amount of soldiers, because at some point enemy will run out of ammo.
>>74780917
>Germans
>they have to revel in the past because the present and future are grim
maybe stop sucking daddies dick and go out to make your own history? just a thought
>>74789950
Going by state/ruler convertion, I think Poland, Czechia, Rus and Hungary were actually Christian before Scandinavia.
>>74790451
Maybe in ww1 and early ww2, but historically, Russia wasn't really a human wave practitioner.
>>74790168
You might think so, but it's not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmiry_massacre
>>74789672
This is lower than WE WUZ KANGS tier. They seriously associate old Anatolian mythology with Mongol-Turkic elements?
It's true that Turks today are converted/brainwashed Greeks and Anatolians (Hittite, Phrygian, Lydian, Luwian, etc.), but they can't claim any of this. They hit the reset button when they decided to create Turkey in 1923 and associated themselves with their Turkic and Iranian cultural ancestors.
Greek presence from Anatolia (that wasn't genocided or assimilated) moved to Greece proper. Pontics, Capadocians, Ionians and so on have become part of the modern Greek state and have more legitimacy on those claims than Turks.
>>74777146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gcufFrdVqw
POLAND STRONG GREATEST MYTHOLOGY IN DA WORLD FUCK OFF WESTERN PUSSIES JAN PAWEŁ DRUGI BEST POPE
>>74777146
the europeans wrote what happened. a lesson from rome.
>>74777146
Spartacus
You all lost it when you went "Muh Orthodoxy"
>>74790280
False!
Even the Christian conquerors admit they (Slavs) had their own system off signs. There exists a linguistic Slav-wide stratum of words connected with an act of writing. There are also a strong case for a Glagolitic (and in turn Cyrillic) alphabet is based on the native system.
Slavs in XI century Novgorod (and other Eastern lands) women, men and children alike could write, read etc. at ease - they'd send each others letters in copious amounts. It all went to shit when Tengri Nation attacked.
>>74790358
he looks like me....
it's weird.
>>74790784
>when Tengri Nation attacked.
Uh-oh.
>>74790597
Nigga you need to learn some history
>>74777146
>So Europe is inhabitated pretty much by Germanics and Slavs
Not really. There isn't a huge difference in the number of Slavic/Germanic/Romance speakers.
Pretty sure Romance has more speakers in Europe than Germanic though.
>>74790451
Wow just wow. I heard of this "gun defeats knight" concept but you actually pretend to be knight nation overrun by hordes of peasants with muskets? kek
>>74790360
I think it's exactly that. People celebrated spring with fires and singing, while drowning Morana. After Catholic Church came, it somehow merged and we now burn witches. Witches are more popular here, as people can cosplay and have fun.
>>74790597
In most of battles against Commonwealth Russians were outnumbering our soldiers.
They didnt win because firearms weren't as effective as they became in 18th century and battles were fought on flat land, where cavalry had great advantage.
>>74790676
>This is lower than WE WUZ KANGS tier. They seriously associate old Anatolian mythology with Mongol-Turkic elements?
They claim all western crosses on turkic elements from the east.
Even on pol it's pretty cringy but once in a while they're spot on.
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/71995496/#72010647
>>74788288
A lot of Slavic mythology is similar to Hinduism.
>>74791057
>hungarian outsiders
where are they from exactly?
>>74791280
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/romans/country/TR/
>>74790451
Spoken like some muslim nigger trash and shit.
How do you think Europeans captured 3/4 of the world? Through the use of technology. You just admitted Poles are dumber than Russians lol.
No wonder you guys charged German tanks with sabers lol
>>74791057
Why eesti gray
>>74790493
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaget_p%C3%A5_Stiklestad
1030 here, I know the Rus was earlier and likely the others too. Geography. Sweden held on longer. Danes were the first ones out. Here it was introduced with the sword and led to war, we killed the traitor king you kall St. Olav the Holy... yet it spread.. this saint burned down entire villages with civilians for the keks in ie valdres, the farmers in tronderlag gathered army and killed him.
Pic related.
>>74790451
>hole Russian tactics is based on sending enormous amount of soldiers
This tactic has been mastered by the Communists because they believed people that shit, before their appearance we have 90% of wars won smaller forces by several times than your opponent.
>>74777146
Reminder, most of what we know about Germanic mythology was written after christianization, the rest was destroyed by christianity or adopted into christianity.
But the mythology of the Suomenusko, Romunova and Slaves is no doubt very rich too, just have to know where to look.
>>74791191
>muh catholic
L.O.L. you sound indoctrinated. The Vatican religion which calls itself "the Catholic Church" now began in the 1500s. Before that, the Church was called the Christian Church.
>>74788288
Much about old Slavic ways can be learned from Slavic Orthodox Christian traditions. Many of religious customs are pagan in origin with christian paint over it.
>>74791191
In Poland Church tried to squash the tradition in vain, replace it with "burning and drowning of Judas" and then left it alone around XIXc.
>>74791446
nice, let me guess.
Midsummer?
They still do this midsummer,midwinter,midautum and midspring in the western islands. We only do it midsummer
>>74791191
Noice. We never stopped burning straw dolls and eating blini.
>>74791431
>adopted into christianity.
That's false, because that is a heresy known as syncretism, Anon.
>>74791510
I don't give shit what they call themselves.
Fuck off.
>>74790597
WW1 loses
Russia 1700k
France 1300k
Germany 1300k
Austria-Hungary 1500k
I'd say our number are not unsusually high. We did fought almost all of austria and half of germany.
>>74791578
You're an idiot who will inevitably stay in the dark.
Get off my board.
>>74791307
Finland, basically. Hungarian belongs to the finno-ugric language group.
>>74791307
From Russia the Urals.
>>74791371
>>74791307
Hungarian and Estonian and Finnish are Uralic languages.
>>74791191
>>74791301
We at least throw her into a river after burning.
>>74791559
We do it only in night from April30 to May 1st
>>74791167
Nah, in 17th century Commonwealth was rotten to the core and people were decadent as fuck. Soldiers had shitty morale, monarchy couldnt afford professional army and nobility became shitty. Commonwealth was dying and you only finished what my ancestors started.
Situation was simmiliar to current status of western europe.
>>74791675
Hell is forever, Anon.
Most of myths have common roots anyway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_religion
>>74791254
We won those battles because justice and god was on our side :^
>>74791352
>>74791651
The drowning and burning are separate things here.
>>74791675
do you know the background for this?
Is it somehow still related to spring?
>>74779238
>>74783314
Hey I know we're all having fun here but I read replies like that and feel like I'm on reddit. Everyone else can see that it is what it is too, he didn't benefit from your acknowledgement and neither did we.
>>74791352
>How do you think Europeans captured 3/4 of the world? Through the use of technology.
10k soldiers with firearms couldnt stand against 100k army it is so simple.
also
>No wonder you guys charged German tanks with sabers
Goebbels was really good, even now people believe his propaganda. Actually there was a charge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Schoenfeld
>>74791576
>That's false, because that is a heresy known as syncretism, Anon
>What is Interpretatio Christiana?
>>74777146
I always found amaze by Lithuania. They were the last pagans of Europe, but little is knowed about Baltic mythology.
>>74791797
>Yes let me totally ignore a part of my nations history
>"We were knights and shieeet, Ruskis and Niemek wuz keeping us down"
>>74791706
>XVII c.
>Commonwealth was rotten to the core
Say what?
>>74777146
I dunno. The only one I know who even speaks about Slavic people and Paganism is Varg - and he says that Slavs and Germanics are pretty much the same and he said that Germanic Paganism is the same as Slavic Paganism.
He was asked about Slavic Paganism in the comment section of his video once, and this is what he said - that that's the same.
If he is right then it has more to do with systems and maybe the Catholic Churhc being able to destroy these Pagan roots more profoundly than the Germanic nations where there was more chaos because of the reformation maybe?
Svarga
In Hinduism, (Sanskrit: स्वर्ग) Svarga (or Swarga) is an underworld, located on Mt. Meru. It is a Heaven where the righteous live in paradise before their next reincarnation. Svarga is seen as a transitory place for righteous souls who performed good deeds but whose conduct is not enough to attain moksha, or union with God. The capital is Amaravati and the entrance is guarded by Airavata. Svarga is presided by Indra, a deva and Lord of Heaven.
In Slavic religion Svarga is Heaven, the residence of god Svarog. link
In Slavic mythology, Svarog (Polish: Swaróg, Cyrillic: Cвapoг, Wendish: Schwayxtix) is the Slavic god and spirit of fire; his name means bright and clear. So sacred was the fire that it was forbidden to shout or swear at it while it was being lit. Folklore portrays him as a fire serpent, a winged dragon that breathes fire.
Older myths describe him as a smith god, identified with the generative and sexual powers of fire. In those myths, Svarog fights Zmey, a giant serpent or a multi-headed dragon. Zmey kills people indiscriminately. Svarog catches Zmey with blacksmith's tongs and uses him to pull the plough, thus separating the land of the living (Jav) from the land of the dead (Nav), bringing order (Prav). Zmey takes over the dead. In some myths, the ploughed ditch becomes the Smorodina River, and Zmey becomes the guardian of Kalinov Bridge.
>>74791292
care to elaborate ?
>>74792029
fugg
*XVIII
>>74791858
Burning fires is to welcome spring.
Drowning morana is say goodbay to winter (white death), this is done earlier, in 3rd month or so.
Burning witches is because it's believed that this night is their most active one, sabat, night of satan. Also they're cunts.
We burn morana sometimes, too. Pic related, this year in my village, local pagan group.
>>74792153
See above for just one of many examples
>>74792116
>>74791951
the lithuanian language is also the oldest indonigger language in europe.
Wicked grammars like 14 cases and shit, compared to norse and german 4. Bend everything, makes old norse/icenigger grammar and lang seem simple.
As opposed to popular belief that one said only uggabugga back in the day, the truth is the oposite. Languages were extremely complex, as they merge, they degrade. LT is old, is al I'm saying
>strangely I can understand tons of it, well pieces and simple sentences
>>74792041
it is the same that is true. both groups lived nearby/together before a decision to move into the areas controlled by a faggot roman empire
>>74792115
Bloddy hell, why russians didn't clean the place when they had the chance after ww2?
>>74792153
Brahma, Hindu God
>>74792188
>local pagan group.
In Poland schoolkids do it.
First day of spring is usually lessons-free, so they march with the Marzanna to nearest river, burn her and throw her into the water.
>>74792153
>>74792541
>>74792541
Swiatowid, Slavic Pagan God
>>74777146
For the same reason there is no iberian mythology... Christianity destroyed it in a very ISIS way... The only difference between slavs and iberians is that we accepted the romanization pretty hard, to the point we were romans (and spain today is just that an "spanish-roman" culture, so before the christanization happened a romanization), and late the muslims ended with any rest of traditions and paganism... In Example, all the pagan mythology in the peninsule comes from the north, and this is because the repopulations during and after the reconquista.
The slavs were conquered many times, and had to suffer slavery pretty hard.
Still... Letonia has his paganism very present, right?
Communism deleted it.
>>74792041
>>74792479
>WE WUZ CELTS N SHIEET
>>74792517
Because Poland was their buffer zone in potential conflict with west.
>>74792115
Poor Ukraine. Reminds of of that anecdote about when 2 trucks collide and one driver ask where did that cute light car that was riding beside us went? Tsss it's between us.
>>74792624
>Letonia
Oops I mean Latvia, and Lithuania too
Trimutri-Hindu God
>>74777146
> the conquerors of the world
you mean the guys that did nothing but nigger around europe and distracted us from our objectives against the muslims?
stupid fucking nordic faggots
>>74792773
Blame Khmelnytsky.
>>74792871
Tryglav, Slavic God
>>74792773
kek now you feel sorry for hohols? Ivan plz, we can disagree in many different issues but we both know that Ukraine shuoldnt exist
>>74792896
Luther dindu nuffin, splitting the church after the turks took constantinople was the right thing to do.
>>74777146
I know that at least South Slavs have a pretty rich mythology. Why it isn't popular though? That is a different question.
It's kindad funny how paganism coexists here with christianity.
You have pagan statues here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavan
Bhagavān, (Sanskrit: भगवान्, Bhagavān) is an epithet for God, particularly for Krishna and other avatars of Vishnu in Vaishnavism, as well as for Shiva in the Shaivism tradition of Hinduism.[1][2] In north India, Bhagavān also represents the concept of abstract God to Hindus who are religious but do not worship a specific deity.[1]
Bhagavān literally means "fortunate, blessed" (from the noun bhaga, meaning "fortune, wealth", cognate to Slavic bog "god", Polish bogaty Serbo-Croatian bogat, Russian бoгaтый (bogatyj) "wealthy"), and hence "illustrious, divine, venerable, holy", etc.[12]
>>74793166
>Why it isn't popular though? That is a different question.
You need to contact hollywood and make few dozen capeshit about it and then it will be popular.
https://youtu.be/q62Lhvc-Y1o
>>74792944
Maybe not as a state but I do feel sorry for people.
>>74793234
... just a few meters christian chapel.
>>74793324
How old is statue? 10 years?
>>74782805
i can hear the cheeki breeki in my mind
>>74793163
>constantinople
But they were Orthodox, what does Luther has to do with them?
(Beside effectively crippling all real efforts to fight Turks for few crucial decades)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da%C5%BEbog
Dažbog (Proto-Slavic: *dadjьbogъ,[1] Croatian or Serbian: Dabog, Daždbog, Dajbog; Bulgarian: Дaждбoг, Polish: Dadźbóg, Russian: Дaж(д)ьбoг, Ukrainian: Дaжбoг), alternatively Dazhbog, Dajbog, Dazhdbog, or Dadzbóg, was one of the major gods of Slavic mythology, most likely a solar deity and possibly a cultural hero. He is one of several authentic Slavic gods, mentioned by a number of medieval manuscripts, and one of the few Slavic gods for which evidence of worship can be found in all Slavic nations.
Morphologically this word is an old compound, that is particularly interesting because it retains the old meaning of the Proto-Slavic *bogъ "earthly wealth/well-being; fortune", with a semantic shift to "dispenser of wealth/fortune" and finally "god".[2] Due to the absence of convincing cognates in other Indo-European languages, Proto-Slavic *bogъ is often considered to be an Iranian borrowing, being related to Indo-Iranian words such as Old Persian baga and Sanskrit bhaga, or at least being semantically influenced by them; in both Slavic and Indo-Iranian cognate forms mean both "deity" and "wealth, share".
>>74777146
vodka
>>74792891
not albinism.
I've read about white skin, blue eyes, blonde hair quite a long time ago. It looks like it started ~15/7 k years ago in China(Northern) then went West, reached Europe ~8/10 k years ago (when Ice cap went back) and racemixed/genocided Natives - Basques and others.
Then the whitey went back to India and China and stopped ~4k years ago there. Chinese "ate": race mixed/genocided them for 3k years, Hindus integrated them as the Priest Caste(Brahmin).
Back then everything was different - that world seems too alien to us.
>>74791381
Wasn't the Peasants that killed him Christians to that?
>>74792624
but old stories were still handed down from generation to generation and you preserved old customs in certain ways? or not?
>>74777146
There is, the Jew Worshippers just destroyed most of the records of it.
>>74792933
love the ships, even got tjald on (protection against arrows from above) like here
>soon londonistan
>we will show you what the religion of war is
taqqyia niggers, fucking lie worse than jews
Honorles both of them, cunts, weak lying cowards
>>74792752
no, celts are very different
>>74793485
Both statues (saints and Radegast) were made in 1930 from bronze. The radegast one had to be replaced with stone one in 1998. The chapel is from 1898
>>74793887
Yup. See this >>74793288
now this https://youtu.be/36XRd1D0zDo
is the same tradition, people that do it is to wish for something and celebrate something, the difference is that our tradition is appropiated by catholics.
>>74793778
There are still Iranic people in China. Han Chinese didn't really assimilate them, the local Turk types (Uyghurs etc) did which is probably why they often look pretty Caucasoid.
>>74793866
sadly yes.. Tore Hund gave the killing blow there if I remember right. Gradually they turned christians and we got cucked.
The nobles were already christian, as Olav Trygvason forced each one to become one or torture you to death(which many chose).
So aside all this mans great deeds, he was the asshole who started it all.
>Captured by eastern vikings while fleeing the shitrock.
>Sold as slave in Garðariki(russia)
>Mother killed
>Killed slave owner at the age of 11
>Village after him, lynching time
>queen there, spots the kid, sees he is norse
>courts him
>christian him
>Became badass, leader of the jomsvikings, >fucking london, fucking everywhere..
>agile as fuck
>liked to run on the oars while his men was rowing
>great warrior
but spread the cancer
One king tried earlier, he was forced to Blot. Håkon the Good. Blot or die kek
>>74794393
Manchurians on the north east can look pretty odd too.
>>74786123
bump
I thought all this slavic myths and gods such as perun, yarilo, dazdbog 'n shit r pretty common in slav countrys. read alot of this stuff when i was a kid. Even this pagan hollyday "maslenitsa" when u basicly set some kindof scarecrow on fire
>>74791280
He's wrong about the Romans though. Romans were briefly savages but they were soon culturally Hellenised, and progressed many Greek philosophical and political concepts towards their more mature forms. Neoplatonism is an excellent example.
He's right about Europe in general though. Barbarians started getting acquainted with the Greco-Roman world once Christianity had been introduced to it. As a result, their perception of what truly matters was based upon the contemporary trend of Christianity. This is why Europe has built its identity around it, despite the fact that it did more harm than good to the Roman Empire.
It wasn't all bad, but it gradually started introducing ideas that resulted in the division and collapse of the Empire. I'm not sure if I would say that Christianity was worse than the Ottoman Empire, but it's certainly up there.
Because every single fucking time some new idea takes hold in Russia, the new ruler tries to destroy all the old traditions and cultures.
Vladimir burned the pagan stuff.
Peter's reforms made Russia less Russian and more Western.
Lenin destroyed all the churches.
Stalin dismantled anything left in an attempt to unify the republics and replaced it with glorious communism.
It just keeps happening! Oh sure in the old days you maybe could get away with some stuff being hidden in corners, but not with communism. They knew exactly what they were doing, which was intentionally re-educating the population and changing culture away from anything non-Soviet.
>>74794393
they even found a man from tonsberg there, they ideded by tribal tatoo... one of these mummies
sorry don't got pic + zzz
People wandered a lot more in the ancient times than we recognize.
>>74794899
Romans were turkic people, they came from the east and pride in their she-wolf founding myth. :^)
I had a turk telling me that with a straight face last summer in germany and I didn't know what to reply.
>>74795069
>Lenin destroyed all the churches.
Call me an edgy fedora but the moskva pool was glorious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskva_Pool
>>74781889
I dont care what you fuckers are, I want to impregnate your mute goddess
