Please don't post poorly thought out comments. I'm voting to leave but I want to learn.
How do you argue against thing like this
the EU actually protects us from the dumping of resources from abroad that would otherwise drown our otherwise uncompetetive fish market
the Industry would die out and leave people unemployed
>>74759829
brexiting from Australia will leave a lot of professional shitposting jobs open, but they will mostly go to the Canadian "work"force
Not sure If shitposting. Is this real life or is just fantasy?
>>74759988
I'm on holiday.
please help!
>A study has revealed that three in four EU citizens working in the UK would have been barred from employment if Britain were no longer subject to Brussels’ rules on free movement.
is this why?
if EU people don't have the jobs then UK does?
>>74759829
probably not unless the euro gets upset and the boycott you out of spite.
else it makes little difference.
but it would be economically good for you to stop taking in 4th world sand niggers
> 3 to 4 million jobs, i.e. the number of people employed in exporting goods and services to the European Union, could be lost through Brexit.
is this true?
>>74759829
>>74760269
>>74760385
>>74760529
>>74760385
yes.
but they will find a way to work anyway+ politicians go by GDP so if that was true they would find a way to keep the euro going under the table
>>74760519
won't industry die if the EU is no longer stopping the UK from having to compete?
You guys are meant to be good at this stuff
>>74760529
could be.
could be that it won't happen.
some will find new markets some will find new ways to export into europe
>>74760666
>israel flag
>666
only a coincidence?
I'm not really sure what you're saying about the euro
>>74760725
no.
industry won't die except where the euro act protective to it's own interests.
and if it does do it back at them with your own interests
>>74760816
Okay thank you.
That's what I was thinking. These jobs will be replaced with jobs in different fields inside the service industry
>Given that this assumes that all exports to the Union would cease if the United Kingdom was to leave, it is a wild overstatement.
this was the 2nd part to that quote btw
how do you feel about this statement
It is plausible that Brexit could have a modest negative impact on growth and job creation. But it is slightly more plausible that the net impacts will be modestly positive. This is a strong conclusion when compared with some studies
It is not likely that any particular region or regions of the country would be more adversely affected by Brexit than the country overall. Likewise, we do find support for the notion that Brexit would benefit some sectors more than others, but the range of outcomes for production / manufacturing industries is probably wider than for services
How true is this?
Which industries will brexit help the most and hurt the most?
why won't leaving the EU be greatly damaging to what little we export and the large amounts of imports into the country
someone please fucking respond i have a gun in my mouth
>>74761773
fire bitch
>>74759829
kys
>>74759829
the fish market is already dying because of regulations and tarifs, based on EU law, UK doesn't have access to its own waters and instead lends it out to other countries
Not only is UK not able to provide enough fish for profitable exports, they are also importing fish from other countries that are fishing in their own waters.
If you leave EU, you'll at least gain back access to your own waters, won't have the need to import fish, and hopefully create something of a more free, competitive market.
>>74762749
Can't the UK just buy fish cheaper somewhere else anyway?
Thanks for the serious response.
>>74762749
In the Brexit movie they talk about Switzerland doing very well. How would you go about responding to this?
Global businesses operating out of Switzerland are fine but the smaller Swiss firms could not sell many products inside the EU, due to not complying with specific legislation. REACH was mentioned, it places responsibility on the importer to ensure compliance as opposed to the manufacturer, which adds cost to the procurement process.
>>74761773
pull it. pull the fucking trigger. your probably a muzzie anyways.
>>74762854
EU countries, for the most part, can't make products as well and as cheaply as the factories and businesses in free capitalist countries such as China and South Korea, so if they import products from there, they have to overprice them and put up quotas, otherwise it would destroy their own local industries.
>>74762984
Why do business with a stagnant EU market anyway? Do trade with prosperous countries.
>>74763485
>free capitalist countries like china
Is it really that free?
I'm confused about what you're saying here as I suffer from Autism is it possible that you would reword this?
>>74763699
That's exactly what I was thinking. So the core argument is that EU trade is so irrelevant that we don't need it? Right?
Isn't a lot of UK exports going to the EU though?
>>74762143
Listen to the jews, off yourself
>>74759829
why are you voting leave btw
>>74763752
>>74764536
I'm actually serious I didn't quite understand what you meant. I'm dyslexic.
800;000 foreign workers applied for national insurance numbers last year in Britain and it rises every year
That's 800,000 people taking jobs and benefits from the British people
Most of them will work for considerably lower wage than the market rate because its 4-5 times higher than they would earn in there own country
Eg my friends chech gf is a qualified maths teacher but moved to England because she earns 3 times as much working in a small hotel as a cleaner and sends money home to her family, lots of her friends work here too but mainly just summer season they share a bedsit to save money and return home with the money they have saved while working here, which is often more than a whole years wages in there country.
>>74764483
I don't see any compelling evidence that in the long run being in the EU will be more beneficial than leaving it.
>>74764671
Great. Thank you for the serious reply.
here is a free image which is yet to be posted in this thread as compensation for your assistance
how the fuck do you respond to shit like this?
>Personally the reason why I'm voting to stay is that the EU backs up a lot of our rights, if the UK were to ever want to remove our rights they wouldn't be able to, and with UKIP outright saying that they want to remove the human rights act, I see the EU as a backup in case that ever happens.
>>74765005
or this
>at the moment, everyone's spouting "take back control" nonsense, and all I think of... that is THE WORST idea ever. Can you imagine our politicians with zero oversight? At least in Europe we have the human right courts look over everything we do, and keeping us in check.
>>74763832
Only 6% of British businesses exports to the eu, but it does amount to 40% of our total exports,
But on the other hand the eu imports to britain more than double what we export so they wouldn't try put up barriers or high tariffs because it would cost them double what it cost us
>>74765377
So there isn't any real reason our trade would decline then? because of the they need us more than we need them argument?
>>74765377
50% of our exports go to them
10% of theirs come to us
>>74765965
You're saying the UK has 5x exports to the EU than they import to us?
source?
>>74765685
Yes
There's no way they wouldn't still trade with us
We buy millions of German and french cars
Huge amount of our food comes from eu,while in return we sell them relatively little
Germany alone would lose 10s if not 100s of thousands of jobs at volkswagon BMW Mercedes skoda etc we,re there biggest market
>>74766325
You seem to know a lot about this.
In what areas would the UK lose and gain jobs and job markets?
>>74766130
err..those were percentages mate...
https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-facts-behind-claims-exports/
btw this is a great website, its an independent charity that fact checks a lot of stuff, including claims made in programs like question time e.g. https://fullfact.org/scotland/12-mays-bbc-question-time-factchecked/
>>74766325
that's totally dependant on what kind of deal we're able to get...
add into the mix that we'll be setting a leave precedent, who knows what our relationship will be
Stop posting this fucking image auatralian
>>74766729
oh my bad lol. so the point is we need them heaps? or could we just sell to different markets too? like the swiss do?
>>74766890
are they really willing to lose jobs because of that though? isn't that more important?
>>74767155
I'd kill you but that would make you think you won.
How do I beat you?
>>74767228
FUCKING AUSTRALIAN STOP POSTING THIS SHIT IMAGE NIGGER KANGAROO
>>74767529
>t. a fucking leaf
>>74767228
We already do sell to different markets, but the EU is our main partner.
The Swiss have a pretty unique relationship. They have limited access to the single market, still have to follow some EU rules and some other bits and bobs.
Here's a great easy to understand bit from the same website, just scroll down to the Switzerland bit
https://fullfact.org/europe/norway-switzerland-eu-laws/
>>74767639
>t. a fucking kangaroo
>>74765965
40% of our exports go to eu see pic
10 of there exports as a block go to us
but that doesn't change the fact they export around twice as much to us as we do to them.
here is the latest monthly trade statistics from the governments own web site
https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTradeStatistics/Pages/OTS.aspx
(tldr uk had £40 billion in imports from eu while exporting only £25 billion our trade with Germany alone is 5.5 billion imports to 2.7 exports) and this trend is increasing yearly
nice try though
>>74767994
what does POOtine taste like?
>>74768082
this is a neutral article
https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-facts-behind-claims-exports/
its unclear who will have the bargaining power,
>>74761773
Not unless you're in NT or QLD you don't
>>74764671
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/eu-immigration-has-no-negative-impact-on-british-wages-jobs-or-public-services-research-finds-a7026796.html
>>74769087
>implying I'm not a renegade cop
>>74759829
It's irrelevant.
What matters is the liberty and survival of our people.
>>74766890
even if we didn't get a deal we could still sell to them under wto rules and arguably wouldn't be any worse off if you take into consideration not having to pay membership fee
but my stong feeling is if we leave, the eu will start to unravel as other country's who are also getting shafted will leave too.
plus we,re the second biggest net contributor to the eu how they gonna pay for all them fat cat salaries and new fancy buildings with a 10 billion hole in there budget ask greece for some more
>Us
Sage, report and hide.
>>74766641
the lower end of the jobs market will benefit in all sectors
the main hit will be to eu politicians and bureaucrats
also no more cushy well payed euro jobs for british parliment members in the future
i think exporting to eu take a hit initially but it will bounce back while trade to outside the eu will rapidly increase as we are allowed to make our own trade deals again especially to commonwealth countrys
>>74767919
Thanks for the help.
>>74770178
how long would this take to bounce back?
what suggests that commonwealth nations need more British exports?
>>74759829
>>74770693
a fucking toothpaste
>>74770664
for a start leaving under article 50 trade would continue as is for 2 years while we negotiate new trade deals with the eu and the rest of the world so its hard to quantify anything because it depends on the deals we reach.
free trade between uk and the commonwealth would benefit both economy's
plus you could start buying range rovers instead of shitty fords and vauxhalls
