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France : 64 year-old stabs youth after brawl in the subway
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>The alleged facts happened saturday around 6 a.m. in a RER train entering Juvisy-sur-Orge, in the south of Paris. A fight started between a 64 year-old and a group of a dozen of youth who were "apparently smoking", said our judiciary source. "The man asked them to stop smoking and they started to hit him. He took out a Swiss army knife he had on him and stabbed one of the guys of the group", she added.

>The young man (22) was pronounced dead at his arrival at the hospital. The perpetrator, who had stayed on the scene, acknowledged the facts. He was not previously known by the police. An investigation for voluntary manslaughter has been started by Evry prosecuting deparment.

How much do you wanna bet about the ethnicity of the "youth" ? Fucking trash smoking on a subway and attacking old people. Serves them right.

Sadly, self-defenses cases are very hard to win in France.

Are French people finally fed up ?
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See now that is what your POPULATION should be doing to these invaders. Everyone should be on the street chasing these "refugees" out of town with pitch forks, molotovs, and any weapon.
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>>74676570
Glorious old man.
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inb4 old man is sentenced to jail and """""youth"""" gets his apartment

v tolerant france
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>>74676859
Welcome to the killing age.
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>killed him with a swiss army knife

brutal but fuck eurofaggots and their bullshit laws

>hey you should let people beat you to death because if you dont they win
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>>74677316
>a swiss army knife
impressive, those have tiny blades
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>>74676570
>Youth
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Based old man.

The jury system was invented for cases like these
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Fuckin A, I don't think I could kill a goddamned hamster with a puny swiss army knife blade. Old man must have hit an artery or something, no way he got any of the vitals.
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>>74677586
Swiss army knife blades can go up to 4 inches.

Maybe he stabbed him in the neck.

I'd be interested in seeing the video surveillance footage.
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>>74677586
>no way he got any of the vitals.
Eyeballs are a good entrypoint to one of the vitals.
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>>74676570
Smoking isn't bad for you so this entire thing was pointless. Dude who stabbed the kids and told them to stop smoking sounds like a dick.
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>>74676859
Yes, then we would have white safe cities like the USA.
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>>74677874
>video surveillance
It's called video protection now, anonyme.
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>>74678076
>smoking in a train
probably bait
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>>74676570

>voluntary manslaughter

Its called self defense you fucking frogs.
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>>74678117
I drove from Zurich to Genf last week and it was like being in Black Hawk Down except I didn't have automatic weaponry or air support.

Honestly I lived in Vienna for years and even though it had a lot of coloured people I never felt as if it was going to start shooting and bombing at any moment. Genf was threatening beyond words and Zurich was just full of dindus.
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>>74676570
>Killing someone with a Swiss army knife

Hardcore as fuck. I bet that must have hurt.
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>>74676570
>dozen of youth
>youth
the equivalent of tanned Germans
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>>74678305
Yeah Geneva is pretty fucking dangerous. Literally the worst city in the country.
I haven't been to Zurich lately but I always thought it was extremely peaceful and comfy there.
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>>74678076
>Smoking isn't bad for you
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>>74678195
It's not bad for you, sorry that you bought into nazi lies kiddo.
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>>74678419
A friend of mine killed a Turk with his keys. Very nice guy, really shook him up. The Turk tried to get him when he was walking to his car, grabbed him and spun him around. My friend had his keys in his hand and hit the guy in the side of the head. The Turk hit the floor, died near enough instantly.

He was found not guilty thanks to witnesses and various other factors but it really messed with him. I genuinely believe most people aren't cut out for killing someone and not having it effect them.
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>>74677402
My thoughts exactly. They are also completely legal here in Germany because they are so short and don't have a fixed blade.
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>>74678742
dude it's fucking not. The meme is global warming tier and it was spread with the intention of demonizing it. All of the proof that it's bad is actually completely dishonest information spread to blame people's ills on a lifestyle choice as opposed to other environmental factors.
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>>74678090
Come to New England, we have white people, safe cities and nice beaches (in the summer at least)
even Boston/Cambridge is rapidly gentrifying, there are some really beautiful places you can hang out all day and not see a single nig, plus you're surrounded by American history and some of the best food on the globe
tons of chinks, but they're alright for the most part and they stick to chinatown anyways
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>>74679453
>American history
>American
>"""""history"""""
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>>74678907 I genuinely believe most people aren't cut out for killing someone and not having it effect them.

correct.
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>>74676570
>youth

I guess Jewmerica's media has infected the entire West.
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Beautiful.
Bless this man.
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>youth
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>>74677402

What I was thinking. I'd find it hard to kill a cat with that, let alone a mudshit. The knife I keep next to my bed and carry to risky places has a blade as long as my forearm.
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>>74679425
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>>74679453
Boston and Cambridge are fucking shitholes. This is coming from someone from Memphis ffs
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>>74676570
>22 years old
>"youth"

The old man killed a shitskin. No other race, apart from gypos and blacks can reach adulthood and still be descibed as the "youth".
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>>74676570
Give him a fucking medal.
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>>74680496
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/38868-smoking-is-good-for-you/
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2523227/posts
http://members.iinet.net.au/~ray/TSSOASb.html

Proof
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>>74676570
>a dozen of youth who were "apparently smoking

Smoking kills :^)
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>>74676570
based old fart
he should be given a medal
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>>74678285

This. He was being attacked by an entire gang at once. What was he supposed to do, stand there and take it? Ask them to wait a minute, pull out his cell and call the cops, who may show up in 20 mins or so? Retarded.

>>74678742

This. Smoking anything gives you increased lung cancer risk because you're inhaling burning plant matter...you could be using tea leaves and it'd still be bad for you. Anon is retarded and way in denial about his disgusting, degenerate habit.

>>74678907

Heh. I sometimes walk with my key in between my knuckles like a brass knuckles. Dad taught it to me, whenever I saw someone shady around. Good riddance.

>>74679425

Shut up you fucking tard, stop making my flag look bad.
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>>74680686
Lel
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>>74678907
Depends, eg: liberals are not people.
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>using a knife with a non-locking blade in self-defense
wew
Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.
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>>74680797
>shut up you fucking tard

Lel I guess you believe in climate change or vaccines causing autism too? Jesus Christ dude. Think outside the box for a second. The links prove that it was always another source that was far more responsible or solely responsible for the illnesses that people get that are dubiously linked to smoking.
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>>74676570
>An investigation for voluntary manslaughter has been started by Evry prosecuting deparment.

Is this going to be like that Spanish Neo-Nazi getting sentenced to 20 years for defending himself?
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>>74680107
I think Europe has been doing it longer

All the "Asian" rapes have been going on since the 90s in the UK
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>>74677886
Also the sides of the neck.
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>>74679425
you might wanna talk to my grandpa about that.. oh wait never mind, he died with lung tumor.
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>>74678907
>I genuinely believe most people aren't cut out for killing someone and not having it effect them.
Yup.
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>>74681811
Well you just have to bounce the smoke around between your tobacco lung and marijuana lung.
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>>74681967
Haha nice!
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>>74676992
>The young man (22) was pronounced dead at his arrival at the hospital.
Do joo even read, mang?
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>>74681811
well, vaporize it.
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>>74679642
>a medpack
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>>74676570
Good job granpa, you were the people who made europe great.
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>>74682050
Well, there are 9 more attackers in this story.

They should get reparations for the emotional damage sustained after the loss of their friend you know.
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>>74682080
Edibles
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>>74676570

how do you die from a swiss army knife stab? get him in the jugular?
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>>74682688
Hit the femoral or brachial artery, and that would be enough to kill.
Still impressive though
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>>74678076
(You)
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>>74682688
Stab him in the forehead
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>>74682688
>how do you die from a swiss army knife stab?

It was laced with Swiss cheese :^)
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>>74679642
You're acting as if it matters how long you've been around rather than how much impact you've had on history.

To be fair, no other civilization has had as much of an impact as America, besides Rome, Macedonia, and England.
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>>74682688
I think he stabbed him several times.
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>>74681811
The longecity link explains that some people are just genetically predisposed or are exposed to other things like radon. I'm sorry that happened but I just don't see how you can blame smoking.
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>>74684030
And now you're declining into insignificance.
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>He took out a Swiss army knife he had on him and stabbed one of the guys of the group

ENOUGH. YOU BEST WATCH IT MY DUDES.
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>>74684755
That's not a Swiss army knife, that's a Swiss pocket knife.

Know your knifes
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>>74684930
My hand is just really big.
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>>74684930
I think it's a British army knife.
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>>74676570
"Bowling alone" is the foreshock; the middle is everybody fighting because there is nothing you could call a society.
The end is totalitarianism.
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>>74684982
10 features, blade is 8.5cm
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>>74685066
You got beat by that? You are worse at war than I thought.
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>>74680107

"Youth" is the new word for "asylum seeker." Even if it is 40 years old, a shitskin is now considered a youth.
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>>74685318
And 50 years later we're ruling Europe. The early bird gets the worm.
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>>74676570
>YOUTH
lel
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>>74685388
They are behaving like children, after all. Cut them some slack.
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>>74676570
>stabbed to death with a swiss army knife
They say voluntary manslaughter so this sounds like this werent self defense which makes me wonder how crazy the old man got to bring forth that accusation...
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>>74684030
you posted a picture of a shitty purpose build tourist attraction

that's not a castle faggot

American culture = materialism
Fucking disgusting
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>>74685492
jews rule europe. you are being replaced
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>>74676570
I hope he gets freed on the day of the rope.
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>>74680342
Get a pushknife - they are much smaller and you can punch through rib cages with ease. Just twist on retraction for maximum trauma and most will collapse from shock.
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>>74685788
>a gang of dindu youths assaults white pensioner
>surprised when the police claims it was the evil cracker that attacked them
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>>74676570
Why didn't other "youths" kill the raycist old fart? Cowards.

>swiss army knife
>youth dead
HARDCORE!!
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>>74688146
Now you know why Hitler didn't invade Switzerland.
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>>74688935
We also needed a place to hide all that gold.
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>>74679343
wait, so there are knives that are not legal in Germany?
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>>74689668
Probably like France.

You can't have a butterfly knife or switchblade. Basically any knife that is built or has a mechanism to have a stable blade is illegal to carry outside of your home, unless it's for work or hunting or camping etc.
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>>74676570
good fucking hope he was a muslim
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>>74689668
>>74689886
Yup. Also stable blades longer than dunno 10cm?
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>>74679425
>20% of all smokers die from lung cancer
>virtually all lung cancer patients are smokers
>smoking is not bad for you
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>>74690698
Ever heard of asbestos?
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>>74690698
>>74690698
I don't know what national socialism rhetoric you're buying into but 20% is an alarmingly low number.

And it's actually 80% of nonsmokers getting lung cancer. But you don't see anyone rallying against whatever got them sick, like their own genetics.

Additionally this link proves that lung cancers relationship with smoking is far, far more complicated.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2523227/posts
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>>74686769
They explicitly stated he was attacked first. If they don't consider it self defense the old man must have fucked up the bugger pretty gruesomely.
#notallmuslims
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>>74690860
So asbestos only affects smokers and this is why they are practically the only ones that die from lung cancer?
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>>74676570
Wow, it happens exactly the same in Basque Contry a month ago

>Old men in the subway: Kid, you can't smoke here.
>Brat: Fuck you grandpa

The old men follow him and the next day stabbed the guy in front of his high school.
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>>74691581
That is some ass backwards logic you have going there. Nonsmokers die of asbestos
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>>74691476
negro please.

It means if you are a smoker you have a 20% chance to die of lung cancer. A fucking 1 in 5 chance.

If you don't smoke you need incredibly bad luck to get lung cancer.

And I think I stick with the WHO and decades of science instead of your random internet blog.
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>>74691790
And this is why one in a million non-smokers gets lung cancer, while every FIFTH smoker dies from lung cancer. Exactly my point.
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he killed a kid with a ~1.5" blade? damn man
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>>74691870
> one in a million

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lung_cancer#Causes
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>>74691818
>smoker
>20% chance of lung cancer
>trannie
>30% of killing yourself
Guess who's more popular?
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>>74680342
>using a knife for self defense
>specially in murrica
are you dumb boy?
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>>74676570
That pic makes me miss banana george even more. :/
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>>74692071
guns are too quick, you cant savor all the little emotions
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>>74691487
Self defense is considered legitimate in France if :

* The person is facing an unjustified aggression AND
* The use of force was necessary (flight was not possible) AND
* The retaliation was proportional to the aggression AND
* the retaliation is immediate and not after the aggression is over

Basically the old man has good chances of getting fucked by the law.

If they prove that he could have fled from the train or move away from them further in the car, or if they decide that using a swiss army knife was disproportionate to a 10 against 1 fist fight (and they just might) or if they argue that he waited too long to stab the guy, he's fucked.

Self defense is really hard to justifiy in France. It's actual victim-blaming.
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So I recently ordered a Zero Tolerance 0450 to have as an EDC. From what I read it was a good knife. What do you guys think?
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>>74678907

Your friend literally removed kebab. Fair play to him.
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>>74682867
subclavian as well
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>>74691487

In french law, self defense intervenes when the defender (l'accusé) invoke this as a justificatory fact (fait justificatif) to, well, justify the use of violence against violence. It's a form of evidence, a peculiar one, who can lift the charges.

But it's extremely rare for a judge to accept it. There is an exigence of proportionnality between the assault and the response. here, the old man used a knife while he was beaten. It could still be ok for the judge if he was assaulted with clear intention to kill. It will probably not be the case here (either because the dindus will say they were just beating him, or because a cucked judge thinks beating isn't murder).
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>>74692013
The article you cited literally says 90% of lung cancer deaths for men from smoking.

There is literally this graph:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Cancer_smoking_lung_cancer_correlation_from_NIH.svg

You are literally a retard if you cannot grasp this.
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>>74692449

Tout portera sur la qualification de l'agression commise par le groupe des 10. Si le juge pénal estime qu'il s'agit d'une simple agression de type coups et blessures, le gars est baisé.

Et le pire, c'est que c'est fort probable: on parle d'une justice qui requalifie un bâton dans l'anus de racket si il n'y a pas de préservatif au bout et que les agresseurs voulaient de l'argent...
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>>74676570
>smoking literally kills
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>>74676570
>An investigation for voluntary manslaughter has been started by
>Evry prosecuting deparment.

for fucks sake, they really have it out for this guy? wouldn't one prosecutor be enough to decide if hes guilty or not? how is that even lawful?

"sir we may have found you didn't do anything wrong but by god we're going to find a prosecutor somewhere in this country who does!"
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>>74692991
French prosecution is totally different from yours, ameribro. To simplify (it's not a law course) he starts every prosecution, and is deeply tied to the governement. To simplify even more: if you had the same prosecutors as us, the entierety of the US would be in the streets riotings for their constitutional rights.
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>>74691818
The WHO is so alarmingly full of shit that it's funny.

http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Editorials/Vol-1/e1-4.htm
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>>74678742
>>74680797
>5% increased chance of getting respiratory and heart cancer over TEN YEARS of continuous, excessive use of a substance

OH GOD, WE MUST STOP THIS EVIL. CALL THE GOVERNMENT! ARREST THE CORPORATIONS! PUT PEOPLE WHO SMOKE IN CAMPS TO REPROGRAM THEIR BRAINS!

take the fucking chip out and read ANY of the studies, they show a dubious and absurdly low correlation. Guess why new studies aren't coming out: the government won't fund any and tobacco companies are too scared of starting this up again to have one done.
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>>74693335

but still though. the guy was attacked and defended himself and its called manslaughter. thats fucking heartbreaking. i hope the public supports him. the guy probably survived ww1 and 2 then deals with this. fuck...
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>>74693686
Exactly
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>>74676570
good work old fella
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>>74693729
>survived ww1 and 2 then deals with this. fuck...

time is flying

that's Vietnam era

my dad is 67 and was drafted for that
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>>74693686
To be fair they have guys like Steve Milloy defending them.

I seriously don't get why they don't try and regain some ground. They very easily could if they come up with the right strategy.
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>>74693729

It's somewhat of a gift, in fact. You have three judicial levels for penal courts in france: contravention, délit (misdemeanor) and crime (felony). Manslaughter is a felony, and is judged before a Cour d'Assises, the only jurisdiction with a jury (very similar to a petit jury). Those courts are renowed to be more (sometimes much more) lenient for specific, socially sensitive, cases. It's clearly one of them. He will be probably condemned, but his sentence isn't going to be huge.

If the prosecution doesn't want that, they would have charged him with a misdemeanour. He would not have been judged by a trial jury, but in a Tribunal Correctionnel, a court exclusively composed of professional judges, known for harsher sentences (sometimes harsher than a jury!)
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>>74694251

ww1 and 2 largely took place in france though. though france did play a part in vietnam, so he may be a veteran of that war 2. considering he took out a dindu with a swiss army knife i actually bet he was a vietnam vet.
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>>74694460

interesting, thanks. someone should set up a gofundme for his legal expenses.
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>>74692368
Ur not a true american.

Go get an M666 with child hunter bullets and nigger detector anti-poc scope with extended drum clip like the ones on the tv.
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It has started, the day of the rope has begun!
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>>74685492
That explains why it's going to shit
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>>74678907
Three years ago during my senior year of college living off campus in a dinduburg that had cropped up by the school I killed a dindu that was trying to break in to the house I was renting. I sleep fine. One less dirty ape who I'm sure was just one hip hop record away from going clean. Right after he gutted me and stole my Bose surround sound system
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>>74694748

damn, i thought it was the same time as vietnam. thanks for redpilling me on that!
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>>74694565

Don't worry for that: we have a decent legal aid system. Hell, even Salah Abdeslam is eligible for it!

>>74694486

My grandpa was 6 when our hometown was liberated by the fucking leafs. He is now 76. This guy is too young for WW II, Indochine or even Algeria.
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>>74694903
>>74694748
"He clearly fought in the battle of auswitch and killed 60 jews with a twig, he is an evil nazi"

t. liberal media
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>>74693729
The public will probably support him. But he WILL go to prison. It's 99% certain.

We're talking of a country where you can't even INJURE an armed burglar without having serious trouble with the judicial system.
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>>74695047

damn shame. here he'd be celebrated in a lot of areas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clW2jtv6qFc
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>tobacco is totally not addictive guys
>btw I need a smoke break every half-hour or I suffer a breakdown
Pathetic weaklings.
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>>74694732
Keep the /tg/ shit in /tg/.
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>>74695152
We've had cases of people shooting at burglar (not even killing them) to defend their shops. The support is pretty widespread, ie facebook pages with hundreds of thousands of likes, donations etc. so much so that the leftists and media feel compelled to pipe down their propaganda and stick to reporting the facts about the story.

It's the way these things work here, the media are cowards, if they feel they can get away with persecuting innocent honest people they will do it, but when they feel the support is too strong their all report the facts very coldly without at any moment comenting anything.
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>>74694486
It says the French guy is 64.

WWI was 1914-1918

WWII was 1939-1945

The French were in Vietnam between 1945-1954. Algeria from 1954-1962.

He was born in 1952.
A baby boomer, most likely one who grew up in a more masculine era and simply got pushed too far.
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>>74695588

Even them, leftists medias uses the "fachosphere" meme whenever the popular support interacts too much with their narrow minded views. Remember the two burglars females rom gunned down by an old men in his own house.
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>>74695236
No one is saying that in this thread, they're saying it isn't seriously bad for you.
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>>74696111
Yeah I remember. They presented him like : "An Algeria veteran", so like everyone his age then, and tried to imply that it somehow made him racist.

To clarify for burgers : everyone was drafted, it's like saying that someone who did Vietnam in the US is necessarily racist because of this.
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>>74676570
I've taken this fucking train to go to paris a lot of time. It's literally niggerland
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>>74696414

Yup. And this accusation isn't baseless: my granddad did Algeria, he was drafted in the staff of a colonel, and worked with the French Legion.

When they leaved the camp, kids were counting them. Same when they came back, to see how many were left behind to make ambushes.

A common sight for them was, whenever a french soldier was killed, to find the body with his genitals severed and put in his mouth. In this case, they took the nearest sandnigger, make him dig a hole, burried him waist-high, ang glued a grenade in his hands. Sheer brutality, from both sides.
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>>74678907
>I genuinely believe most people aren't cut out for killing someone and not having it effect them.
We all have it in us, at least men, it is our nature.

It's like so many things in life, first time it's unspeakable hard, then it get's creepy easy.
Like prolly how you watched gore the first time compare to now. You don't flinch your nose anymore.

maybe I'm just a psycho but I think this is pretty universal. Though you usually ofc don't want to do this
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>>74688935
I'd corkscrew their temple and siphon their brains out with one strong yank.
Clever swiss. Y'all thought of everything.
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>>74684030
Dat pic, I almost thought it was utoya and the had made a castle for Breivik already.
Nah guess he sits nearby, can see down to the island from ILA prison, but he wasn't allowed too.
>prolly in his human rights violation sue
>should have been

fuck me actual lots of senpai camped/camping just down by this prison when this shit happen. Like this temp camping place.
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>>74696918
yeah.. but mutilating corpses and in part that cock thing... that's so pathetic and low only a nigger or mudslime could come up with it*

1 vs 1, you should have taken 100.... frenchies..
1:1 that's just motivation for keep on going
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I'd love to see the charges dropped, but in all honesty he's going to go away for a while. Ridiculous how you can't even defend yourself these days.
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>>74684655
At least its taking us longer than you did :^)
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>youth

does that mean he stabbed a blackie?
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>>74699159
It's France so odds are 50/50 if he's an Arab or black.
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>>74676570
Based old frenchie
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Why would you willingly kill yourself slowly in one of the most painful ways to die, inconvenience everyone else around you, smell like shit and make everything else around you smell like shit, and pay out the ass to do it too?

Smokers confuse me.
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>>74700035
Because none of what you said is actually true, you just think it smells bad so you pretend in your mind that it's a gigantic health risk.

I'd honestly imagine that if farting held the same level of social behavior smoking did, the government would release papers detailing the dangers of secondhand flatulance or something.

Also I wouldn't know myself but smoking apparently feels really fucking good.
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>>74680202
"Tanned" Frenchman
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>>74692480
Solid choice if overpriced. I EDC an Ontario Meme 1.
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>>74700746
Father smoked 5-6 cigs a day for most of his adult life.

He recently passed away at 62. He had severe pulmonary edema caused by smoking. The lack of oxygen eventually got to his heart and his body just systematically gave out.

It was due to smoking.

Why are you this delusional?
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>>74701250
Because scientific analysis supported by the links I posted in this thread say otherwise, I'm sorry that happened but based on the evidence in those links there could very well be another reason, instead of just smoking. Was he fat? Did he exercise? What was his family/genetic history like?

I'm just saying that to blame it on smoking doesn't feel like the rational thing to do, when there could very well be other reasons. You don't see Japanese or Greek smokers dying like that either.
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>>74701877
The doctors, multiples of them, clearly stated it was due to smoking. He was not overweight. He was somewhat fit because of his work. It was due to fucking smoking. The heart failure and systematic organ failure was BECAUSE of the edema, which was caused by smoking, due to the fact his lungs looked like charcoal.

And yes plenty of people die in other countries due to smoking as well.

It's just plain fucking stupid to smoke and denying its terrible health consequences is equally so.
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>>74684030
>To be fair, no other civilization has had as much of an impact as America
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>>74702258
>And yes plenty of people die in other countries due to smoking as well

But not nearly as much. Japan has higher amount of smokers and a much smaller lung cancer rate.

I just think that the information presented >>74680620 is convincing and Because of that I have drawn these conclusions about smoking.
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>>74700746
>Lung cancer isn't a painful death
>Cigarette smoke isn't annoying to breathe in when you're not a smoker
>The nicotine smoke doesn't soak into everything
Kill yourself uninformed degenerate
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>>74703923
>Lung cancer isn't a painful death

It is but it's not caused by smoking, and there are plenty of new revolutionary therapies for it anyhow

>Cigarette smoke isn't annoying to breathe in when you're not a smoker

That's subjective.

>The nicotine smoke doesn't soak into everything

There are methods to remove it.
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>>74704538
Smoking substantially increases the risk of lung cancer, thus "causing" it. Also true for various other cancers.
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>>74704538
Then what is lung cancer caused by? What are the "Revolutionary therapies" for it? I'm sure they all completely heal the effects.

It's not subjective, people who don't smoke do not like the smell since THEY DONT SMOKE.

True, but it gets everywhere, and are you going to clean everything again after you smoke or the other person does?
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>>74691916
>22yo
>kid
It was a youth.
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>>74704912
fine, don't bother reading the information that will tell you otherwise.

http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Editorials/Vol-1/e1-4.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~ray/TSSOASb.html
https://www.newscientist.com/letter/mg19726410-800-smoking-gun/
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>>74705182
>Then what is lung cancer caused by? What are the "Revolutionary therapies" for it? I'm sure they all completely heal the effects.

Asbestos, radon gas, genetics, and radiation

>It's not subjective, people who don't smoke do not like the smell since THEY DONT SMOKE.

It is subjective. Plenty of nonsmokers don't mind you generalizing zealot.

>True, but it gets everywhere, and are you going to clean everything again after you smoke or the other person does?

if they don't mind the smell I can imagine they wouldn't bother airing it out.
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Jesus christ
I didnt think it was actually possible to kill someone with a swiss army knife. Are the ones in france just outright better than what we get? The blades on ours tend to break off really easy and i have trouble imagining someone dying from one unless he gets the throat or something
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>psh nothing personnel kid
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>>74705528
I'm sure those many thousands of people who got lung cancer from those things just happened to be smoking as well. I'm not saying all lung cancer comes from smoking, but holy shit anon, you're seriously saying that smoking is harmless and doesn't cause lung cancer?

I guess that's why you can only smoke outside of buildings or in private places like home anymore in the US right? I guess the overwhelming majority must be wrong that its annoying.

Kek, you think simply airing a cushion out does the job? It also clings to wooden furniture and plenty of objects you can't simply air out. And the point of doing it every single time still stands, its going to get bothersome.
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>>74707423
>I'm sure those many thousands of people who got lung cancer from those things just happened to be smoking as well.

That's what I'm saying. Correlation doesn't imply causation.

>I'm not saying all lung cancer comes from smoking, but holy shit anon, you're seriously saying that smoking is harmless and doesn't cause lung cancer?

Based on the evidence posted in this thread that people absolutely refuse to read, yes.

>I guess that's why you can only smoke outside of buildings or in private places like home anymore in the US right? I guess the overwhelming majority must be wrong that its annoying.

That's due to the WHO and EPA spreading numbers thy likely pulled out of their ass in order to justify people banning it indoors. It's extended to outdoors as well now sadly.

>Kek, you think simply airing a cushion out does the job? It also clings to wooden furniture and plenty of objects you can't simply air out. And the point of doing it every single time still stands, its going to get bothersome.

If that's the case then politely ask them to smoke out the window or something. There are remedies/ways to get rid of the smell though.
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>>74680342
>Not having a kbar.
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