What is /pol/'s opinion on ex-Muslims who have abandoned their cult and embraced Western culture and values?
>>74675800
would be more useful if they moved to non Western countries and spread our values there
>>74675800
Can't stand them, at least the ones who make a big fuss out of it.
Special snowflakes whoring themselves out for attention.
Then shut the fuck up about being ex Muslim, don't even bring it up
Sleepers.
>>74675800
I'd prefer it if they were in their home countries, but they'd get killed for it. I guess if they need a place to stay until Islam is overthrown in their country, that's fine.
>>74675800
Ex-muslims are probably more redpilled than 99% of non muslims. They now have a target on their head saying its okay for a muslim to murder them.
>>74675890
>they would be better dead
Islam needs all the reformists it can get, and it needs them alive.
>>74675800
One word:
Taqiyya
>>74675890
what are western values though, besides consumerism and globalism...
even when i talk to european nationalists about their values, all they can mention is old religions, ethnic food, and hair colors. that's about it.
>>74675929
Say they were just average joes. Like any Westerner except brown
>>74675800
>Western culture and values?
what are those?
homosexuality, fat, lazy and atheist?
western "culture" is degenerate and non religious
>>74676015
So you're saying nobody at all could possibly be an ex-Muslim?
>>74675800
The only good muslims.
>>74675890
>spread our values
no thanks
I think we've had enough of any EU values
>>74675890
and what are your values¿
and why you want your "values" in other countries?
stupid germanic, go back denmark
I know a few, and am good friends with one who I've known since before he abandoned Islam. He's a hell of a lot more red-pilled about Islam than most my other mates, who won't even acknowledge the possibility that Islam is incompatible with the west for fear of being un-PC.
>>74676171
what?
they arent muslims anymore
>>74675800
They're clearly traitors.
The question is...Why would you trust them in the first place if they had the audacity to turn their back to a religion where the punishment for apostasy is death.
It tells me they're potential sociopaths. Remorseless , ready to kill their parents for their own personal gain. The type of cynical people who thrive in politics.
Maybe it's part of an elborate taqiya plan to infiltrate atheists groups or socialist parties to destroy us from the inside.
Just sayin...
>>74675800
Don't care, they're still shitskins and could just pull some taqiyya kitman shit.
>>74675800
>embraced Western culture and values?
Do they fight islamophobia and bend over to terrorists now?
I don't know any but they're probably okay people.
ahaahhaahah yes pol supports race mixing,as long as they are fedora tipping atheists ahahahahahahah
>>74676343
>Why would you trust them in the first place
this
>>74676301
how is he red pilled? why we still using red pill memes?
>>74676009
Hopefully they wouldn't die, or if they would they would become martyrs for a greater cause
>>74676029
>>74676215
the values that built Western civilization. Those who separate Europe from the barbarians in Africa
>>74676272
What are Dominican values aside from getting raped by Haitian criminals? Gtfo spic/negro
>>74676124
Most people are just shy. Because western values are domination, conquest and gloating with a side dish of hedonism.
Basically baron Vladimir Harkonnen is a saint.
But it's kind of hard to tell directly without scaring everyone.
>>74676737
>the values that built Western civilization.
how are muslims going to spread those values, if the west doesnt even spread them anymore?
today's cancer is not what built civilisation
>>74676343
How can I betray something for which I had no loyalty in the first place?
>>74675800
Half white half Palestinian ex Muslim here.
I just want to live my life as I see fit in middle America and smoke as much weed as my lungs will allow.
>>74676828
>today's cancer is not what built civilisation
absolutely, yet even our modern cancer is superior to islam
>>74676157
>So you're saying nobody at all could possibly be an ex-Muslim?
There's no way for you to prove that any given "ex-Muslim" is actually an ex-Muslim, because of Taqiyya.
Ergo, they have to go back too, sadly.
>>74675800
Ex-muslims are okay. Leaving the faith is a good way to paint a target on your back and be abandoned by your family. Many end up being murdered. Leaving the Islamic cult shows that person has strength and can think critically.
>>74675800
>ex-Muslim
How does that work? You're either a mooslem or not. If you're a mooslem, you will be purged in the coming Crusade.
>>74676924
>yet even our modern cancer is superior to islam
I dont know about that
I dont see any muslim religious leaders kissing europeans' feet
>>74676343
Maybe based on the fact they've done something that would go against the idea of self-preservation. A sociopath won't do something like that. From there it's just about the things they say about Islam. If they shit on it I'm more inclined to believe they actually defected, since Muslims aren't allowed to criticize Islam
>>74677099
You were a Muslim once and you left for whatever reason. Mainly because the cult is barbaric as shit and is the most regressive worldview to exist.
>>74677148
Islam promotes inbreeding (half of arabs are inbred) which would make us all as retarded as they are. If you want a nice civilization, Islam is not an option anymore.
>>74677181
So why would you claim to be a former member of that shitty cult? Why claim the title of former mooslem? Seems pretty counter intuitive if you're trying to distance yourself from that shitty ideology.
>>74675800
There are a few ex muslims in germany that openly spoke against Islam and the shitshow it actually is. They are under police protection because islamic states called for him to be killed.
>>74676009
>Islam will be reformed
>ever
I admire your idealism, but I think the only solution to this problem will be the Middle East being an Andes made of nuclear glass, skretching from Spain all the way to China.
>>74677466
I'm brown and the way that works is that people assume you're Muslim and treat you differently because of it (for better or worse).
>>74677148
yet I see plenty of muslims fucking animals and their own kids, stoning people because they are triggered, and generally unable to have a stable country with a prosperous economy.
>>74677466
People don't go around saying they are ex-Muslim blindly. There's some prominent political figures that are ex-Muslims that are very against Islam. In general, saying you left the faith is a good way to be killed.
>>74677598
>I'm brown and the way that works is that people assume you're Muslim
What sort of Muslim piece of shit country do you live in where people just assume you belong to Islam if you're brown?
>checks flag
Oh, I guess that makes sense...
>>74677709
>In general, saying you left the faith is a good way to be killed.
So don't fucking do it. That piece of shit ideology doesn't even deserve to be addressed. It was seriously like a year ago where I never even thought of that shitty faith as nothing more than some dune coon religion not worthy of second thought.
>>74675800
I wish there were more of them.
>>74675800
inb4 turkroach wanting to behead
>>74675800
>embraced Western culture and values
what are these? do they actually exist. I thought you all were trying to be accommodating by getting rid of them.
It depends. Like any other group of people the fact that they are ex-Muslim means little in terms of their political ideology.
There are good ex-Muslims like Ayaan Hirsi Ali who come out of the misogyny and backwardsness of the Muslim world and speak out against it and then there are pretty shitty ex-Muslims like Maryan Namazie who thinks borders shouldn't exist, Muslim immigrants should just be accepted and is actually a communist, that's not an insult, she's a self-described communist.
So there's a wide range
>>74678232
>That piece of shit ideology doesn't even deserve to be addressed.
Islam is a real problem in Europe due to insane immigration policies m8. You can't just ignore it.
>>74678530
>Islam is a real problem in Europe due to insane immigration policies m8. You can't just ignore it.
That's so fucking sad.
How far we've come...
>>74676009
Islam is not christianity, and the muslims aren't christians either, i know a few of them and they all practice "their religion" because they want to please their parents, or because they fear them.
Islam will never be reformed, because the "muslims" are to afraid to face the peer pressure
>>74675800
They have to go back
>>74678530
There's a simple remedy for that - dealing with religion as a strictly private affair and stamping down all dissenters. I know that's authoritarian leftist territory, but I don't care anymore.
Great, but they still aint white.
>>74679534
No shit
